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Re: Logic Studio - Logic 8 OUT NOW [message #89710 is a reply to message #89707] |
Wed, 12 September 2007 12:18 |
excelav
Messages: 2130 Registered: July 2005 Location: Metro Detroit
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I think the only stand alone program is Soundtrack pro 2, the rest are integrated.
You can import export, and drag and drop multi track audio between the
two programs. With dual monitors and program switching it shouldn't be a
problem. I'm glad they included Soundtrack pro 2.
"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>It is a nice deal, BUT...I would've rather tha they'd just integrated of
the
>forementioned apps into 1 app, and not several.
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Logic pro 8 with Soundtrack pro 2, Studio Instruments, MainStage live virtual
>>instruments, Studio Sound Library, and Studio Effects with space designer
>>and Mastering Tool, it's a hell of a buy at $499.00. I would say that
price
>>helps offset the price of a new Mac. That's one more reason to buy a Mac!
>>
>>
>>"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>>
>>>"EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message news:46e81612$1@linux...
>>>> Sure it has a dongle... the Mac! ;-)
>>>>
>>>> David.
>>>
>>>Most expensive dongle there is.
>>>
>>>;o)
>>>
>>>
>>
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Re: Logic Studio - Logic 8 OUT NOW [message #89728 is a reply to message #89705] |
Wed, 12 September 2007 15:26 |
Chris Ludwig
Messages: 868 Registered: May 2006
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HI James,
He can run Cubase just fine on the Mac side too. :)
Logic 8 is one of the main reasons I pushed to have us become Apple
dealers awhile ago.
Was kinda hoping thought that Apple would come up with new ideas in
Logic 8 instead of just fine tuning everybody else's ideas. But is still
looks great and is a big improvement over the old versions.
If DJ is gonna buy a Mac it's gonna be from me or hes a dead man!!!
Plus our pricing is way better anyways.
Chris
James McCloskey wrote:
> Oh come on DJ, you know deep down in side your heart, your lusting for a 3.0GHz
> Quad-Core Intel Xeon “Clovertown” Mac Pro with Logic Studio Pro; ) We
> know your fear is simplicity, give in to the force, it will be Ok. You could
> still run Cubase and Windoze.
>
> If you went the Apogee rout you would have all that hot rod power for plugins.
> If you don't get this set up you could.....well you know.
>
> P.S. That price would have been 1997, 1987 you could add two more zeros.
>
>
> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>> ..........probably more like $14, 999.00
>>
>> ;oD
>>
>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:46e82778$1@linux...
>>> I'm surprised it's not $1499.00. Maybe it's a type-O
>>>
>>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I just read on Gearslutz $499.00
>>>>
>>>> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>> http://www.apple.com/logicstudio/
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.macnn.com/articles/07/09/12/logic.studio.and.expr ess.8/
>>>>>
>>>>> Price dropped about in half, too.
>>>>>
>>>>> Must go read more...
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK Pro Audio
(859) 635-5762
www.adkproaudio.com
chrisl@adkproaudio.com
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Re: Logic Studio - Logic 8 OUT NOW [message #89730 is a reply to message #89728] |
Wed, 12 September 2007 15:53 |
excelav
Messages: 2130 Registered: July 2005 Location: Metro Detroit
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Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>HI James,
>He can run Cubase just fine on the Mac side too. :)
>
>Logic 8 is one of the main reasons I pushed to have us become Apple
>dealers awhile ago.
>Was kinda hoping thought that Apple would come up with new ideas in
>Logic 8 instead of just fine tuning everybody else's ideas. But is still
>looks great and is a big improvement over the old versions.
>
>If DJ is gonna buy a Mac it's gonna be from me or hes a dead man!!!
>Plus our pricing is way better anyways.
>
>Chris
>
>
The day DJ buys a Mac Hell will have frozen over and Microsoft will have
gone out of business; )
>
>James McCloskey wrote:
>> Oh come on DJ, you know deep down in side your heart, your lusting for
a 3.0GHz
>> Quad-Core Intel Xeon “Clovertown” Mac Pro with Logic Studio Pro; )
We
>> know your fear is simplicity, give in to the force, it will be Ok. You
could
>> still run Cubase and Windoze.
>>
>> If you went the Apogee rout you would have all that hot rod power for
plugins.
>> If you don't get this set up you could.....well you know.
>>
>> P.S. That price would have been 1997, 1987 you could add two more zeros.
>>
>>
>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>> ..........probably more like $14, 999.00
>>>
>>> ;oD
>>>
>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:46e82778$1@linux...
>>>> I'm surprised it's not $1499.00. Maybe it's a type-O
>>>>
>>>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> I just read on Gearslutz $499.00
>>>>>
>>>>> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>>> http://www.apple.com/logicstudio/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.macnn.com/articles/07/09/12/logic.studio.and.expr ess.8/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Price dropped about in half, too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Must go read more...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>
>>
>
>--
>Chris Ludwig
>
>ADK Pro Audio
>(859) 635-5762
>www.adkproaudio.com
>chrisl@adkproaudio.com
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Re: Logic Studio - Logic 8 OUT NOW [message #89732 is a reply to message #89711] |
Wed, 12 September 2007 16:33 |
Chris Ludwig
Messages: 868 Registered: May 2006
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Hi James,
Yep for sure Dell is not anymore competitive than Apple for the same
specs. I've already had a Dell precision 690 hear to troubleshoot for
some audio compatibility issues and they are not at all higher quality
and the Mac. I don't even bother selling the PC Xeons at this point.
They are working great for Video stuff like Premiere and Vegas but the
audio software and hardware is having tough time. At this point if
someone really wants a 8 core machine I would only point them to a Mac
Pro. That being said if the AMD gets there shot together on the PC they
have a chance to get back some of that the high end workstation/server
market. They still have a better buss design than Intel for the Multi
CPU based systems.
Here are 3 systems from today.
Dell - $4160.00 (The Dell configuration is not capable of letting you
choose the right number CPUs to do the quad 3.0ghz) According to their
web site add $1000 for one Quad 3.0ghz CPU so the price goes up to more
than 5160.00 but you only get one Quad core CPU. It will be at least
another $500 minimum to really have a 3.0 ghz 8 core machine. The video
card is crap and will have limits to what size and type of monitors you
can use.
My System Details
Quad Core Intel® Xeon® Processor E5335 (2.00GHz, 2 X 4MB L2,1333)
Quad Core Intel® Xeon® Processor E5335 2.00GHz, 2 X 4MB L2,1333
Genuine Windows® XP Professional, SP2 with Media
128MB PCIe x16 nVidia Quadro NVS 285, Dual DVI or Dual VGA Capable
4GB, DDR2 SDRAM FBD Memory, 667MHz, ECC (4 DIMMS)
16X DVD-ROM AND 48X/32X CD-RW with Cyberlink Power DVD™
C2 All SATA drives, Non-RAID, 3 drive total configuration
250GB SATA 3.0Gb/s,7200 RPM Hard Drive with 8MB DataBurst Cache™
SATA/SAS Integrated Card - For Connecting Internal Hard Drives
500GB SATA 3.0Gb/s,7200 RPM Hard Drive with 16MB DataBurst Cache™
500GB SATA 3.0Gb/s,7200 RPM Hard Drive with 16MB DataBurst Cache™
Free 19 inch E198WFP Flat Panel
My Accessories
USB Entry Quietkey, No Hot Keys
Dell USB 2-Button Mechanical Mouse with Scroll
No Floppy Drive
No Speaker option
My Software
No Resource CD
My Services & Warranties
3 Year Limited Warranty plus 3 Year NBD On-Site Service
No Onsite System Setup
Purchase is not intended for resale.
Also Included
None
Genuine Windows® XP Sticker
Apple Mac Pro from Apple web site - $5603.00
* Two 3.0GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon
* 4GB (4 x 1GB)
* 250GB 7200-rpm Serial ATA 3Gb/s
* 500GB 7200-rpm Serial ATA 3Gb/s
* 500GB 7200-rpm Serial ATA 3Gb/s
* NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT 256MB (single-link DVI/dual-link DVI)
* One 16x SuperDrive
* Apple Keyboard and Mighty Mouse - U.S. English
* Mac OS X - U.S. English
* AppleCare Protection Plan for Mac Pro (w/or w/o Display) -
Auto-enroll
Apple Mac Pro from ADK's web site $4,794.00
Review System Components
Case Apple - Mac Pro: 2 Dual or Quad core Intel Xeon Processors, up to
16 GB ram, 16X Su
Processor Intel - Two 3.0GHz Quad Core Intel Xeon (clovertown)
Memory SuperTalent - <4Gig>(4x) STT DDR2-667 1GB/128x4 ECC Samsung Chip
FB-DIMM
OS Programs Drive 250G 7200 rpm Serial ATA 3Gb/s
Audio Drive SEAGATE - 500G 16Meg Sata II Perpendicular ST3500630AS
Audio/Samples SEAGATE - 500G 16Meg Sata II Perpendicular ST3500630AS
Dual Head Video Apple - NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT 256MB (single-link
DVI/dual-link DVI)
DVD-RW Apple - 16x Superdrive: Your Mac Pro comes standard with one 16x
double-layer Super
Sound Card Onboard
Operating System Apple - Mac OS X
Keyboards Apple - Keyboard and Mighty Mouse
Warranty Apple - AppleCare Protection Plan (APP)
Chris
James McCloskey wrote:
> Speaking of Apple prices, their monitor prices are outrageous. People in
> the Mac community are getting noisy, I think Apple will be dropping prices
> by January MacWorld. Dell is killing them on price and quality right now.
>
> Now Dave, you know you can get a new Mac that will run Logic Studio Pro 8
> for $599.00; )
>
> http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore. woa/wa/RSLID?nnmm=browse&mco=9A515E80&node=home/desk top/mac_mini
>
> EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>> That's the price including the entry level iMac... ;-)
>>
>> David.
>>
>> DJ wrote:
>>> ..........probably more like $14, 999.00
>>>
>>> ;oD
>>>
>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:46e82778$1@linux...
>>>
>>>> I'm surprised it's not $1499.00. Maybe it's a type-O
>>>>
>>>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I just read on Gearslutz $499.00
>>>>>
>>>>> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.apple.com/logicstudio/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.macnn.com/articles/07/09/12/logic.studio.and.expr ess.8/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Price dropped about in half, too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Must go read more...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>
>
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK Pro Audio
(859) 635-5762
www.adkproaudio.com
chrisl@adkproaudio.com
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Re: Logic Studio - Logic 8 OUT NOW [message #89735 is a reply to message #89730] |
Wed, 12 September 2007 17:42 |
Chris Ludwig
Messages: 868 Registered: May 2006
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lol
James McCloskey wrote:
> Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>
>> HI James,
>> He can run Cubase just fine on the Mac side too. :)
>>
>> Logic 8 is one of the main reasons I pushed to have us become Apple
>> dealers awhile ago.
>> Was kinda hoping thought that Apple would come up with new ideas in
>> Logic 8 instead of just fine tuning everybody else's ideas. But is still
>>
>
>
>> looks great and is a big improvement over the old versions.
>>
>> If DJ is gonna buy a Mac it's gonna be from me or hes a dead man!!!
>> Plus our pricing is way better anyways.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>>
>
> The day DJ buys a Mac Hell will have frozen over and Microsoft will have
> gone out of business; )
>
>
>> James McCloskey wrote:
>>
>>> Oh come on DJ, you know deep down in side your heart, your lusting for
>>>
> a 3.0GHz
>
>>> Quad-Core Intel Xeon “Clovertown” Mac Pro with Logic Studio Pro; )
>>>
> We
>
>>> know your fear is simplicity, give in to the force, it will be Ok. You
>>>
> could
>
>>> still run Cubase and Windoze.
>>>
>>> If you went the Apogee rout you would have all that hot rod power for
>>>
> plugins.
>
>>> If you don't get this set up you could.....well you know.
>>>
>>> P.S. That price would have been 1997, 1987 you could add two more zeros.
>>>
>>>
>>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> ..........probably more like $14, 999.00
>>>>
>>>> ;oD
>>>>
>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:46e82778$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>>> I'm surprised it's not $1499.00. Maybe it's a type-O
>>>>>
>>>>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I just read on Gearslutz $499.00
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.apple.com/logicstudio/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.macnn.com/articles/07/09/12/logic.studio.and.expr ess.8/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Price dropped about in half, too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Must go read more...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>>>
>> --
>> Chris Ludwig
>>
>> ADK Pro Audio
>> (859) 635-5762
>> www.adkproaudio.com
>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com
>>
>
>
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Chris Ludwig
ADK
chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
(859) 635-5762
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Re: Logic Studio - Logic 8 OUT NOW [message #89785 is a reply to message #89782] |
Thu, 13 September 2007 10:15 |
DJ
Messages: 1124 Registered: July 2005
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"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:46e962dc$1@linux...
>
> DJ wrote:
>> "Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
>> news:46e88952$1@linux...
>>> lol
>>>
>>
>> The only way I'm gonna e3nd up with a Mac is to purchase 4 of them and
>> then tear them all down until they are nothing but a pile of components
>> lying on the floor, then I will build my own Mac.
>> ;o)
>
> Like you need all that...
>
> I built MY Mac out of a pile of sand and some used pop cans.
>
> Then I reinvented the internet, downloaded the free Mac development tools,
> wrote my own version of OSX, and compiled all my software.
>
> Once I had the email program working, I immediately started complaining
> about the cost to every news group I could think of.
>
> THAT'S how you build a Mac! :^)
>
> Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
I am humbled and in awe. That is sooo cool!!!. I I guess now I'm going to
have to go out and mine a bunch of iron ore, nickel and chromium, build a
foundry, use the foundry to create steel, use the steel to build a drilling
rig, and drill my own oil well, then use some more steel to create an oil
refinery, use the refinery to make plastic,. Then mine some more copper for
the wiring and crunch up some sand fro the silicone and make a iant wafer
about 10 ft. across and pur 500 trillion transistors on it, then I'll steal
your code and start marketing "my Mac".
;oD
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