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Potentially Shameless Preplug... [message #100458] Tue, 23 September 2008 20:30 Go to next message
xpam_mark is currently offline  xpam_mark   UNITED STATES
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Hey boys and girls, when considering all the other places I could have taken
this, I always came back to "these guys pretty much tell it like it is." So
I am here for some evaluation of the kneejerk variety. I've had this notion
to set up for doing guitar tracks across the net but haven't been able,
until now, to approach it with any due constent infrastructure despite
having 20GB of server space. And before I do all that (okay, I confess, I
bought 4 domains - www.hotguitartracks.com, .net, .org, and .info - it was
cheap - 25 bucks for the first year - nothing hosted yet) I wanted to get
some feedback from the hood about the main ingredeint, the guitar playing,
styles, tones, etc.

Yeah, I know, your friends are almost always the wrong folks to ask but
which day was it that this group didn't collectively hold a high degree of
objectivity when the thread wasn't a political one? Well, this ain't
politics so I'm comfy soliciting your grumbles, applause and mediocre
fanfare so long as it does not include the words "suck" or "dribble" or
"awsome" or "great."

By no means is the sampling as broad as it could be and the presentation
here is on a lone, previously hidden page of an existing site which was
quickly mocked up in the wee hours of a sleepless AM two months ago.

No holds barred, no bars held... go at it... comments solicited without
construct.... directly to me or here on the group... I don't care so long as
it is informational and critical. My email is "mark" at the domain below.

http://www.avidrecording.com/audio.htm

Thanks in advance.
W. Mark Wilson

Oh, ps... ANY guitars you hear on these clips are me despite the focus of
the individual clips and please, please... no comments about my vocal chops
or I'll, I'll...I'll clip your toe nails really short. Some bass and keys
stuff on there too but not a focus.
Re: Potentially Shameless Preplug... [message #100459 is a reply to message #100458] Tue, 23 September 2008 20:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Neil is currently offline  Neil
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I think that's a pretty good demo, FWIW.


"W. Mark Wilson" <xpam_mark@avidrecording> wrote:
>Hey boys and girls, when considering all the other places I could have taken

>this, I always came back to "these guys pretty much tell it like it is."
So
>I am here for some evaluation of the kneejerk variety. I've had this notion

>to set up for doing guitar tracks across the net but haven't been able,

>until now, to approach it with any due constent infrastructure despite
>having 20GB of server space. And before I do all that (okay, I confess,
I
>bought 4 domains - www.hotguitartracks.com, .net, .org, and .info - it was

>cheap - 25 bucks for the first year - nothing hosted yet) I wanted to get

>some feedback from the hood about the main ingredeint, the guitar playing,

>styles, tones, etc.
>
>Yeah, I know, your friends are almost always the wrong folks to ask but

>which day was it that this group didn't collectively hold a high degree
of
>objectivity when the thread wasn't a political one? Well, this ain't
>politics so I'm comfy soliciting your grumbles, applause and mediocre
>fanfare so long as it does not include the words "suck" or "dribble" or

>"awsome" or "great."
>
>By no means is the sampling as broad as it could be and the presentation

>here is on a lone, previously hidden page of an existing site which was

>quickly mocked up in the wee hours of a sleepless AM two months ago.
>
>No holds barred, no bars held... go at it... comments solicited without

>construct.... directly to me or here on the group... I don't care so long
as
>it is informational and critical. My email is "mark" at the domain below.
>
>http://www.avidrecording.com/audio.htm
>
>Thanks in advance.
>W. Mark Wilson
>
>Oh, ps... ANY guitars you hear on these clips are me despite the focus of

>the individual clips and please, please... no comments about my vocal chops

>or I'll, I'll...I'll clip your toe nails really short. Some bass and keys

>stuff on there too but not a focus.
>
>
Re: Potentially Shameless Preplug... [message #100461 is a reply to message #100459] Tue, 23 September 2008 21:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kerryg is currently offline  kerryg   CANADA
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Ditto. Little to criticize that you haven't already spotted yourself
(broader range of styles is always good).

You wanted critical input, so with that in mind I'm looking hard for
things to criticize - you might consider some "streetier" or
"grungier" sounds, ie the "less slick more sick" side of dirty geetars.
Signature oddball sounds can capture folks - got a baritone? A
Danelectro for jangle? Slide/Dobro? A ukelele? Something odd that
sticks in folks' minds and says "this guitarist over that guitarist"?

Good work.

- K

On 2008-09-23 20:58:10 -0700, "Neil" <nothing@yahoo.com> said:

>
> I think that's a pretty good demo, FWIW.


"... being bitter is like swallowing poison and waiting for the other guy to die..." - anon
Re: Potentially Shameless Preplug... [message #100462 is a reply to message #100458] Tue, 23 September 2008 21:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
excelav is currently offline  excelav   
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Hey Mark, very cool!

"W. Mark Wilson" <xpam_mark@avidrecording> wrote:
>Hey boys and girls, when considering all the other places I could have taken

>this, I always came back to "these guys pretty much tell it like it is."
So
>I am here for some evaluation of the kneejerk variety. I've had this notion

>to set up for doing guitar tracks across the net but haven't been able,

>until now, to approach it with any due constent infrastructure despite
>having 20GB of server space. And before I do all that (okay, I confess,
I
>bought 4 domains - www.hotguitartracks.com, .net, .org, and .info - it was

>cheap - 25 bucks for the first year - nothing hosted yet) I wanted to get

>some feedback from the hood about the main ingredeint, the guitar playing,

>styles, tones, etc.
>
>Yeah, I know, your friends are almost always the wrong folks to ask but

>which day was it that this group didn't collectively hold a high degree
of
>objectivity when the thread wasn't a political one? Well, this ain't
>politics so I'm comfy soliciting your grumbles, applause and mediocre
>fanfare so long as it does not include the words "suck" or "dribble" or

>"awsome" or "great."
>
>By no means is the sampling as broad as it could be and the presentation

>here is on a lone, previously hidden page of an existing site which was

>quickly mocked up in the wee hours of a sleepless AM two months ago.
>
>No holds barred, no bars held... go at it... comments solicited without

>construct.... directly to me or here on the group... I don't care so long
as
>it is informational and critical. My email is "mark" at the domain below.
>
>http://www.avidrecording.com/audio.htm
>
>Thanks in advance.
>W. Mark Wilson
>
>Oh, ps... ANY guitars you hear on these clips are me despite the focus of

>the individual clips and please, please... no comments about my vocal chops

>or I'll, I'll...I'll clip your toe nails really short. Some bass and keys

>stuff on there too but not a focus.
>
>
Re: Potentially Shameless Preplug... [message #100464 is a reply to message #100458] Tue, 23 September 2008 23:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jamie K is currently offline  Jamie K   UNITED STATES
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I listened to the lead reel, nice work! You demonstrate a real mastery
of the styles presented.

Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com


W. Mark Wilson wrote:
> Hey boys and girls, when considering all the other places I could have taken
> this, I always came back to "these guys pretty much tell it like it is." So
> I am here for some evaluation of the kneejerk variety. I've had this notion
> to set up for doing guitar tracks across the net but haven't been able,
> until now, to approach it with any due constent infrastructure despite
> having 20GB of server space. And before I do all that (okay, I confess, I
> bought 4 domains - www.hotguitartracks.com, .net, .org, and .info - it was
> cheap - 25 bucks for the first year - nothing hosted yet) I wanted to get
> some feedback from the hood about the main ingredeint, the guitar playing,
> styles, tones, etc.
>
> Yeah, I know, your friends are almost always the wrong folks to ask but
> which day was it that this group didn't collectively hold a high degree of
> objectivity when the thread wasn't a political one? Well, this ain't
> politics so I'm comfy soliciting your grumbles, applause and mediocre
> fanfare so long as it does not include the words "suck" or "dribble" or
> "awsome" or "great."
>
> By no means is the sampling as broad as it could be and the presentation
> here is on a lone, previously hidden page of an existing site which was
> quickly mocked up in the wee hours of a sleepless AM two months ago.
>
> No holds barred, no bars held... go at it... comments solicited without
> construct.... directly to me or here on the group... I don't care so long as
> it is informational and critical. My email is "mark" at the domain below.
>
> http://www.avidrecording.com/audio.htm
>
> Thanks in advance.
> W. Mark Wilson
>
> Oh, ps... ANY guitars you hear on these clips are me despite the focus of
> the individual clips and please, please... no comments about my vocal chops
> or I'll, I'll...I'll clip your toe nails really short. Some bass and keys
> stuff on there too but not a focus.
>
>
Re: Potentially Shameless Preplug... [message #100466 is a reply to message #100461] Wed, 24 September 2008 00:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
xpam_mark is currently offline  xpam_mark   UNITED STATES
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Thanks Kerry... good stuff. I am however probably going to stick with a
more conventional leaning output since the kinda stuff you're talking about
usually requires a producer on-scene tweaking performance and sound in real
time to get the "fresh" thing out of the can intact. I do however have some
stuff like that.... sig oddballs and some nice guitar/scat stuff... just
haven't gotten it off the ½ " inch masters yet.

W. Mark Wilson

"KerryGalloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
news:48d9c0b7@linux...
> Ditto. Little to criticize that you haven't already spotted yourself
> (broader range of styles is always good).
>
> You wanted critical input, so with that in mind I'm looking hard for
> things to criticize - you might consider some "streetier" or "grungier"
> sounds, ie the "less slick more sick" side of dirty geetars. Signature
> oddball sounds can capture folks - got a baritone? A Danelectro for
> jangle? Slide/Dobro? A ukelele? Something odd that sticks in folks' minds
> and says "this guitarist over that guitarist"?
>
> Good work.
>
> - K
>
> On 2008-09-23 20:58:10 -0700, "Neil" <nothing@yahoo.com> said:
>
>>
>> I think that's a pretty good demo, FWIW.
>
Re: Potentially Shameless Preplug... [message #100467 is a reply to message #100466] Wed, 24 September 2008 00:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
xpam_mark is currently offline  xpam_mark   UNITED STATES
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I should add... my objective is to simply cut the tracks to the customer's
downloaded 2-bus and place them up for customer download. No producer
hassles... I'll just give them 3 or 4 takes to choose from after obtaining a
real good idea of what they want. If they want something far out, I got a
friend that can play the hell out of aYami VL1.

W. Mark Wilson

"W. Mark Wilson" <xpam_mark@avidrecording> wrote in message
news:48d9eee0@linux...
> Thanks Kerry... good stuff. I am however probably going to stick with a
> more conventional leaning output since the kinda stuff you're talking
> about usually requires a producer on-scene tweaking performance and sound
> in real time to get the "fresh" thing out of the can intact. I do however
> have some stuff like that.... sig oddballs and some nice guitar/scat
> stuff... just haven't gotten it off the ½ " inch masters yet.
>
> W. Mark Wilson
>
> "KerryGalloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
> news:48d9c0b7@linux...
>> Ditto. Little to criticize that you haven't already spotted yourself
>> (broader range of styles is always good).
>>
>> You wanted critical input, so with that in mind I'm looking hard for
>> things to criticize - you might consider some "streetier" or "grungier"
>> sounds, ie the "less slick more sick" side of dirty geetars. Signature
>> oddball sounds can capture folks - got a baritone? A Danelectro for
>> jangle? Slide/Dobro? A ukelele? Something odd that sticks in folks' minds
>> and says "this guitarist over that guitarist"?
>>
>> Good work.
>>
>> - K
>>
>> On 2008-09-23 20:58:10 -0700, "Neil" <nothing@yahoo.com> said:
>>
>>>
>>> I think that's a pretty good demo, FWIW.
>>
>
>
Re: Potentially Shameless Preplug... [message #100468 is a reply to message #100466] Wed, 24 September 2008 00:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kerryg is currently offline  kerryg   CANADA
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Yeah, that makes sense. I've been doing internet tracks myself as a
bassist (on a smaller scale and mostly for local clients) for years now
and I'm probably going to kick it up a notch after January. Best of
both worlds; make money having fun making music... no clients
underfoot... open the studio door, pet the dog, have lunch with the
family...

- K

I also On 2008-09-24 00:24:07 -0700, "W. Mark Wilson"
<xpam_mark@avidrecording> said:

> Thanks Kerry... good stuff. I am however probably going to stick with a
> more conventional leaning output since the kinda stuff you're talking about
> usually requires a producer on-scene tweaking performance and sound in real
> time to get the "fresh" thing out of the can intact. I do however have some
> stuff like that.... sig oddballs and some nice guitar/scat stuff... just
> haven't gotten it off the ½ " inch masters yet.
>
> W. Mark Wilson
>
> "KerryGalloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
> news:48d9c0b7@linux...
>> Ditto. Little to criticize that you haven't already spotted yourself
>> (broader range of styles is always good).
>>
>> You wanted critical input, so with that in mind I'm looking hard for
>> things to criticize - you might consider some "streetier" or "grungier"
>> sounds, ie the "less slick more sick" side of dirty geetars. Signature
>> oddball sounds can capture folks - got a baritone? A Danelectro for
>> jangle? Slide/Dobro? A ukelele? Something odd that sticks in folks' minds
>> and says "this guitarist over that guitarist"?
>>
>> Good work.
>>
>> - K
>>
>> On 2008-09-23 20:58:10 -0700, "Neil" <nothing@yahoo.com> said:
>>
>>>
>>> I think that's a pretty good demo, FWIW.


"... being bitter is like swallowing poison and waiting for the other guy to die..." - anon
Re: Potentially Shameless Preplug... [message #100469 is a reply to message #100467] Wed, 24 September 2008 00:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kerryg is currently offline  kerryg   CANADA
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Same concept here... it's usually a stereo file they've send me to cut
to (some folks have sent MIDI tracks; that can be various flavours of
hassle).

A drummer I've worked with for years is quite organized about this (he
does five or six internet sessions a week, some multi-song). After he
tracks he does a quick mix and sends the client an MP3, but with
spoiler beeps inserted. Once the client listens and signs off and the
PayPal's deposited, he ships the full-resolution tracks (mixing
optional and extra). http://www.e-studio-drummer.com/ if you're
interested.

- K

On 2008-09-24 00:30:08 -0700, "W. Mark Wilson" <xpam_mark@avidrecording> said:

> I should add... my objective is to simply cut the tracks to the customer's
> downloaded 2-bus and place them up for customer download. No producer
> hassles... I'll just give them 3 or 4 takes to choose from after obtaining a
> real good idea of what they want. If they want something far out, I got a
> friend that can play the hell out of aYami VL1.
>
> W. Mark Wilson
>
> "W. Mark Wilson" <xpam_mark@avidrecording> wrote in message
> news:48d9eee0@linux...
>> Thanks Kerry... good stuff. I am however probably going to stick with a
>> more conventional leaning output since the kinda stuff you're talking
>> about usually requires a producer on-scene tweaking performance and sound
>> in real time to get the "fresh" thing out of the can intact. I do however
>> have some stuff like that.... sig oddballs and some nice guitar/scat
>> stuff... just haven't gotten it off the ½ " inch masters yet.
>>
>> W. Mark Wilson
>>
>> "KerryGalloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
>> news:48d9c0b7@linux...
>>> Ditto. Little to criticize that you haven't already spotted yourself
>>> (broader range of styles is always good).
>>>
>>> You wanted critical input, so with that in mind I'm looking hard for
>>> things to criticize - you might consider some "streetier" or "grungier"
>>> sounds, ie the "less slick more sick" side of dirty geetars. Signature
>>> oddball sounds can capture folks - got a baritone? A Danelectro for
>>> jangle? Slide/Dobro? A ukelele? Something odd that sticks in folks' minds
>>> and says "this guitarist over that guitarist"?
>>>
>>> Good work.
>>>
>>> - K
>>>
>>> On 2008-09-23 20:58:10 -0700, "Neil" <nothing@yahoo.com> said:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think that's a pretty good demo, FWIW.


"... being bitter is like swallowing poison and waiting for the other guy to die..." - anon
Re: Potentially Shameless Preplug... [message #100471 is a reply to message #100458] Wed, 24 September 2008 02:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Martin Harrington is currently offline  Martin Harrington   AUSTRALIA
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Hey Mark.
There's some nice sounds there.
How have you managed to not be sued by Digidesign yet?

Martin H
Lend An Ear Sound



On 24/09/08 1:30 PM, in article 48d9b821$1@linux, "W. Mark Wilson"
<xpam_mark@avidrecording> wrote:

> Hey boys and girls, when considering all the other places I could have taken
> this, I always came back to "these guys pretty much tell it like it is." So
> I am here for some evaluation of the kneejerk variety. I've had this notion
> to set up for doing guitar tracks across the net but haven't been able,
> until now, to approach it with any due constent infrastructure despite
> having 20GB of server space. And before I do all that (okay, I confess, I
> bought 4 domains - www.hotguitartracks.com, .net, .org, and .info - it was
> cheap - 25 bucks for the first year - nothing hosted yet) I wanted to get
> some feedback from the hood about the main ingredeint, the guitar playing,
> styles, tones, etc.
>
> Yeah, I know, your friends are almost always the wrong folks to ask but
> which day was it that this group didn't collectively hold a high degree of
> objectivity when the thread wasn't a political one? Well, this ain't
> politics so I'm comfy soliciting your grumbles, applause and mediocre
> fanfare so long as it does not include the words "suck" or "dribble" or
> "awsome" or "great."
>
> By no means is the sampling as broad as it could be and the presentation
> here is on a lone, previously hidden page of an existing site which was
> quickly mocked up in the wee hours of a sleepless AM two months ago.
>
> No holds barred, no bars held... go at it... comments solicited without
> construct.... directly to me or here on the group... I don't care so long as
> it is informational and critical. My email is "mark" at the domain below.
>
> http://www.avidrecording.com/audio.htm
>
> Thanks in advance.
> W. Mark Wilson
>
> Oh, ps... ANY guitars you hear on these clips are me despite the focus of
> the individual clips and please, please... no comments about my vocal chops
> or I'll, I'll...I'll clip your toe nails really short. Some bass and keys
> stuff on there too but not a focus.
>
>
Re: Potentially Shameless Preplug... [message #100474 is a reply to message #100458] Wed, 24 September 2008 04:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Don Nafe is currently offline  Don Nafe   CANADA
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Where are the drum tracks?

hehehe

nice stuff there W



"W. Mark Wilson" <xpam_mark@avidrecording> wrote in message
news:48d9b821$1@linux...
> Hey boys and girls, when considering all the other places I could have
> taken this, I always came back to "these guys pretty much tell it like it
> is." So I am here for some evaluation of the kneejerk variety. I've had
> this notion to set up for doing guitar tracks across the net but haven't
> been able, until now, to approach it with any due constent infrastructure
> despite having 20GB of server space. And before I do all that (okay, I
> confess, I bought 4 domains - www.hotguitartracks.com, .net, .org, and
> .info - it was cheap - 25 bucks for the first year - nothing hosted yet) I
> wanted to get some feedback from the hood about the main ingredeint, the
> guitar playing, styles, tones, etc.
>
> Yeah, I know, your friends are almost always the wrong folks to ask but
> which day was it that this group didn't collectively hold a high degree of
> objectivity when the thread wasn't a political one? Well, this ain't
> politics so I'm comfy soliciting your grumbles, applause and mediocre
> fanfare so long as it does not include the words "suck" or "dribble" or
> "awsome" or "great."
>
> By no means is the sampling as broad as it could be and the presentation
> here is on a lone, previously hidden page of an existing site which was
> quickly mocked up in the wee hours of a sleepless AM two months ago.
>
> No holds barred, no bars held... go at it... comments solicited without
> construct.... directly to me or here on the group... I don't care so long
> as it is informational and critical. My email is "mark" at the domain
> below.
>
> http://www.avidrecording.com/audio.htm
>
> Thanks in advance.
> W. Mark Wilson
>
> Oh, ps... ANY guitars you hear on these clips are me despite the focus of
> the individual clips and please, please... no comments about my vocal
> chops or I'll, I'll...I'll clip your toe nails really short. Some bass
> and keys stuff on there too but not a focus.
>
Re: Potentially Shameless Preplug... [message #100478 is a reply to message #100458] Wed, 24 September 2008 08:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rod Lincoln is currently offline  Rod Lincoln
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Mark
That was AWSOME! it totally failed to suck, and was so great and mouth watering
I felt saliva starting to dribble down my chin!

Seriously, I was really impressed. There's no reason you shouldn't have an
online thing going. Thanks for posting that stuff, it kind of inspires me
to get a web presence up for the same thing.
Rod

"W. Mark Wilson" <xpam_mark@avidrecording> wrote:
>Hey boys and girls, when considering all the other places I could have taken

>this, I always came back to "these guys pretty much tell it like it is."
So
>I am here for some evaluation of the kneejerk variety. I've had this notion

>to set up for doing guitar tracks across the net but haven't been able,

>until now, to approach it with any due constent infrastructure despite
>having 20GB of server space. And before I do all that (okay, I confess,
I
>bought 4 domains - www.hotguitartracks.com, .net, .org, and .info - it was

>cheap - 25 bucks for the first year - nothing hosted yet) I wanted to get

>some feedback from the hood about the main ingredeint, the guitar playing,

>styles, tones, etc.
>
>Yeah, I know, your friends are almost always the wrong folks to ask but

>which day was it that this group didn't collectively hold a high degree
of
>objectivity when the thread wasn't a political one? Well, this ain't
>politics so I'm comfy soliciting your grumbles, applause and mediocre
>fanfare so long as it does not include the words "suck" or "dribble" or

>"awsome" or "great."
>
>By no means is the sampling as broad as it could be and the presentation

>here is on a lone, previously hidden page of an existing site which was

>quickly mocked up in the wee hours of a sleepless AM two months ago.
>
>No holds barred, no bars held... go at it... comments solicited without

>construct.... directly to me or here on the group... I don't care so long
as
>it is informational and critical. My email is "mark" at the domain below.
>
>http://www.avidrecording.com/audio.htm
>
>Thanks in advance.
>W. Mark Wilson
>
>Oh, ps... ANY guitars you hear on these clips are me despite the focus of

>the individual clips and please, please... no comments about my vocal chops

>or I'll, I'll...I'll clip your toe nails really short. Some bass and keys

>stuff on there too but not a focus.
>
>
Re: Potentially Shameless Preplug... [message #100480 is a reply to message #100478] Wed, 24 September 2008 10:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kerryg is currently offline  kerryg   CANADA
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From what I've heard, and from your online presence here, you'd be a
natural for it. All the ingredients are in place, and if your main
infrastructure costs (recording facility and hardware and instruments
etc) have already been absorbed, then the expenses needed to take it a
step further are trivial. It's mostly a time investment if you're
web-handy (if not, the market for web development's pretty competitive
nowadays) and from a business perspective the potential leverage it can
add to those previous investments is just phenomenal.

On a related side note - looking at this thread, I can't help but think
that a "PARIS collaborative project" might be a fun thing to take
another stab at some day. There's a formidable talent pool here.

[hehehe - I just had an image of a twisted-21st-century-update cover of
"See it My Way" as well and laughed :D]

- K

On 2008-09-24 08:07:10 -0700, "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> said:

>
> Mark
> That was AWSOME! it totally failed to suck, and was so great and mouth watering
> I felt saliva starting to dribble down my chin!
>
> Seriously, I was really impressed. There's no reason you shouldn't have an
> online thing going. Thanks for posting that stuff, it kind of inspires me
> to get a web presence up for the same thing.
> Rod
>
> "W. Mark Wilson" <xpam_mark@avidrecording> wrote:
>> Hey boys and girls, when considering all the other places I could have taken
>
>> this, I always came back to "these guys pretty much tell it like it is."
> So
>> I am here for some evaluation of the kneejerk variety. I've had this notion
>
>> to set up for doing guitar tracks across the net but haven't been able,
>
>> until now, to approach it with any due constent infrastructure despite
>> having 20GB of server space. And before I do all that (okay, I confess,
> I
>> bought 4 domains - www.hotguitartracks.com, .net, .org, and .info - it was
>
>> cheap - 25 bucks for the first year - nothing hosted yet) I wanted to get
>
>> some feedback from the hood about the main ingredeint, the guitar playing,
>
>> styles, tones, etc.
>>
>> Yeah, I know, your friends are almost always the wrong folks to ask but
>
>> which day was it that this group didn't collectively hold a high degree
> of
>> objectivity when the thread wasn't a political one? Well, this ain't
>> politics so I'm comfy soliciting your grumbles, applause and mediocre
>> fanfare so long as it does not include the words "suck" or "dribble" or
>
>> "awsome" or "great."
>>
>> By no means is the sampling as broad as it could be and the presentation
>
>> here is on a lone, previously hidden page of an existing site which was
>
>> quickly mocked up in the wee hours of a sleepless AM two months ago.
>>
>> No holds barred, no bars held... go at it... comments solicited without
>
>> construct.... directly to me or here on the group... I don't care so long
> as
>> it is informational and critical. My email is "mark" at the domain below.
>>
>> http://www.avidrecording.com/audio.htm
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>> W. Mark Wilson
>>
>> Oh, ps... ANY guitars you hear on these clips are me despite the focus of
>
>> the individual clips and please, please... no comments about my vocal chops
>
>> or I'll, I'll...I'll clip your toe nails really short. Some bass and keys
>
>> stuff on there too but not a focus.


"... being bitter is like swallowing poison and waiting for the other guy to die..." - anon
Re: Potentially Shameless Preplug... [message #100481 is a reply to message #100480] Wed, 24 September 2008 11:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
xpam_mark is currently offline  xpam_mark   UNITED STATES
Messages: 126
Registered: March 2007
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Call it... "When in Paris"

W. Mark Wilson

"KerryGalloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
news:48da7e8e@linux...
> On a related side note - looking at this thread, I can't help but think
> that a "PARIS collaborative project" might be a fun thing to take another
> stab at some day. There's a formidable talent pool here.
>
> [hehehe - I just had an image of a twisted-21st-century-update cover of
> "See it My Way" as well and laughed :D]
>
> - K
Re: Potentially Shameless Preplug... [message #100482 is a reply to message #100471] Wed, 24 September 2008 11:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
xpam_mark is currently offline  xpam_mark   UNITED STATES
Messages: 126
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Simple Martin... I did the research... Avid has nothing secured under the
word "avidrecording." No products, trademarks, fixed medium or not,
tangible or intangible. Notta.

I might add, I am surprised having found "hotguitartracks" available as .com
..net and .org

Mark

"Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
news:C500433F.60B%lendan@bigpond.net.au...
> Hey Mark.
> There's some nice sounds there.
> How have you managed to not be sued by Digidesign yet?
>
> Martin H
> Lend An Ear Sound
Re: Potentially Shameless Preplug... [message #100484 is a reply to message #100482] Wed, 24 September 2008 14:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John [1] is currently offline  John [1]
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Hi Mark, I wish you the best but I'm not sure about the avidrecording name
not infringing. I owned "microsoftsuperstore.com" for a few months and then
decided that i would be sued or something. My non-existent law knowledge
led me to believe that even if it's similar in the same market then it's
actionable. Like if I did AvidTennisShoes.com then there is no chance they
will lose market share from customer confusion. My impression was that if
it was arguable that a customer in the same market could be confused then
it was actionable.

John
www.nikesocks.com

hehe
Re: Potentially Shameless Preplug... [message #100485 is a reply to message #100484] Wed, 24 September 2008 16:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Martin Harrington is currently offline  Martin Harrington   AUSTRALIA
Messages: 560
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Yes, that's pretty much what I thought.
It isn't "actual", it's "intent".
I must say, when I saw the name at first, I immediately thought of "Avid"
(Digi), so I can't have been the first, (or the last).
Have you had 'Top shelf" legal advice on this?

Martin H


On 25/09/08 7:55 AM, in article 48dab757$1@linux, "John" <no@no.com> wrote:

>
> Hi Mark, I wish you the best but I'm not sure about the avidrecording name
> not infringing. I owned "microsoftsuperstore.com" for a few months and then
> decided that i would be sued or something. My non-existent law knowledge
> led me to believe that even if it's similar in the same market then it's
> actionable. Like if I did AvidTennisShoes.com then there is no chance they
> will lose market share from customer confusion. My impression was that if
> it was arguable that a customer in the same market could be confused then
> it was actionable.
>
> John
> www.nikesocks.com
>
> hehe
Re: Potentially Shameless Preplug... [message #100489 is a reply to message #100485] Wed, 24 September 2008 20:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
xpam_mark is currently offline  xpam_mark   UNITED STATES
Messages: 126
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Two years plus and not a word from Digi. No top shelf legal advice. Just
an understanding of the law.

W. Mark Wilson

"Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
news:C5010C2D.63B%lendan@bigpond.net.au...
> Yes, that's pretty much what I thought.
> It isn't "actual", it's "intent".
> I must say, when I saw the name at first, I immediately thought of "Avid"
> (Digi), so I can't have been the first, (or the last).
> Have you had 'Top shelf" legal advice on this?
>
> Martin H
>
>
> On 25/09/08 7:55 AM, in article 48dab757$1@linux, "John" <no@no.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi Mark, I wish you the best but I'm not sure about the avidrecording
>> name
>> not infringing. I owned "microsoftsuperstore.com" for a few months and
>> then
>> decided that i would be sued or something. My non-existent law knowledge
>> led me to believe that even if it's similar in the same market then it's
>> actionable. Like if I did AvidTennisShoes.com then there is no chance
>> they
>> will lose market share from customer confusion. My impression was that
>> if
>> it was arguable that a customer in the same market could be confused then
>> it was actionable.
>>
>> John
>> www.nikesocks.com
>>
>> hehe
>
Re: Potentially Shameless Preplug... [message #100491 is a reply to message #100489] Wed, 24 September 2008 20:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kerryg is currently offline  kerryg   CANADA
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An understanding of the law can come in very handy. You've seen this, I
suppose? Funny stuff.

http://www.audioholics.com/news/industry-news/blue-jeans-str ikes-back

- K

On 2008-09-24 20:12:42 -0700, "W. Mark Wilson" <xpam_mark@avidrecording> said:

> Two years plus and not a word from Digi. No top shelf legal advice. Just
> an understanding of the law.
>
> W. Mark Wilson
>
> "Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
> news:C5010C2D.63B%lendan@bigpond.net.au...
>> Yes, that's pretty much what I thought.
>> It isn't "actual", it's "intent".
>> I must say, when I saw the name at first, I immediately thought of "Avid"
>> (Digi), so I can't have been the first, (or the last).
>> Have you had 'Top shelf" legal advice on this?
>>
>> Martin H
>>
>>
>> On 25/09/08 7:55 AM, in article 48dab757$1@linux, "John" <no@no.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi Mark, I wish you the best but I'm not sure about the avidrecording
>>> name
>>> not infringing. I owned "microsoftsuperstore.com" for a few months and
>>> then
>>> decided that i would be sued or something. My non-existent law knowledge
>>> led me to believe that even if it's similar in the same market then it's
>>> actionable. Like if I did AvidTennisShoes.com then there is no chance
>>> they
>>> will lose market share from customer confusion. My impression was that
>>> if
>>> it was arguable that a customer in the same market could be confused then
>>> it was actionable.
>>>
>>> John
>>> www.nikesocks.com
>>>
>>> hehe


"... being bitter is like swallowing poison and waiting for the other guy to die..." - anon
Re: Potentially Shameless Preplug... [message #100504 is a reply to message #100458] Sun, 28 September 2008 22:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
emarenot is currently offline  emarenot
Messages: 345
Registered: June 2005
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Yikes! I listened to the lead reel. Great tones, great licks, right in the
pocket. Really sweet stuff man. MR


"W. Mark Wilson" <xpam_mark@avidrecording> wrote:
>Hey boys and girls, when considering all the other places I could have taken

>this, I always came back to "these guys pretty much tell it like it is."
So
>I am here for some evaluation of the kneejerk variety. I've had this notion

>to set up for doing guitar tracks across the net but haven't been able,

>until now, to approach it with any due constent infrastructure despite
>having 20GB of server space. And before I do all that (okay, I confess,
I
>bought 4 domains - www.hotguitartracks.com, .net, .org, and .info - it was

>cheap - 25 bucks for the first year - nothing hosted yet) I wanted to get

>some feedback from the hood about the main ingredeint, the guitar playing,

>styles, tones, etc.
>
>Yeah, I know, your friends are almost always the wrong folks to ask but

>which day was it that this group didn't collectively hold a high degree
of
>objectivity when the thread wasn't a political one? Well, this ain't
>politics so I'm comfy soliciting your grumbles, applause and mediocre
>fanfare so long as it does not include the words "suck" or "dribble" or

>"awsome" or "great."
>
>By no means is the sampling as broad as it could be and the presentation

>here is on a lone, previously hidden page of an existing site which was

>quickly mocked up in the wee hours of a sleepless AM two months ago.
>
>No holds barred, no bars held... go at it... comments solicited without

>construct.... directly to me or here on the group... I don't care so long
as
>it is informational and critical. My email is "mark" at the domain below.
>
>http://www.avidrecording.com/audio.htm
>
>Thanks in advance.
>W. Mark Wilson
>
>Oh, ps... ANY guitars you hear on these clips are me despite the focus of

>the individual clips and please, please... no comments about my vocal chops

>or I'll, I'll...I'll clip your toe nails really short. Some bass and keys

>stuff on there too but not a focus.
>
>
Re: Potentially Shameless Preplug... [message #100507 is a reply to message #100458] Mon, 29 September 2008 21:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Wayne is currently offline  Wayne   UNITED STATES
Messages: 206
Registered: July 2008
Location: Las Vegas
Senior Member
Hi Mark,

I just got back home, saw your post and checked out your samples. You ask'd
us to be critical so don't even think for a minute that I'm diss'ing you.
This is some good music. New, exciting, authentic and more. I'm not a pro
studio engineer. I'm your average Joe, trying to make a go of performing
and recording at home. I favor rock and blues, pedal steel county and old
motown. Our tastes may not coincide. I do have good ears, but what I comment
on is my taste. You may have a need to cater to a specific audience or
customer.

So, with that said, hear is what I heard.

1st great performances on every sample. Nice recordings and mixing chops
too! Great variety.

Wonderful rhythms and patterns. Tight performances. Perfect stereo
assignments. Very open mix's. These are quality samples. The musical
genre sampling is superb. I dig your funk. Your classical is interesting.
Your gtr leads are excellent and your strumming is tight with the band. The
bass player and drummer groove well. Your musical samples capture me.

But, without further ado . . the other side:

Acoustic samples - nylon tone is totally real with perfect reverb, but, if
real critical, just a touch over. Steel string leans towards a more
electric than acoustic tonality. I'm not sure why. The lower strings and
middle register sound more electric than a sound hole tone. However, the
upper two strings sound real (B and E).

Bass samples - on the rockin' and funky tunes the bass is tight, clean, fat
and perfect in the mix. On the mellower stuff I think it could be a bit
rounder. You know, the type of sound you get with brand new set of round
wound strings. A clarity and fullness that surround you. On "aint" it
sounds like the snare is gated off too quickly.

Keyboard samples - B3 is awesome. I'm not a fan of that particular electric
piano keyboard patch on the lead. It's got a strange attack and to me feels
brittle. I hear it a lot in R&B and some jazz, but I still don't care if. I
feel as though a true piano patch would fit in the song just as well or
maybe something more in the lines of something Billy Preston or Ray Charles
might try.

Lead and Rhythm samples - Your mix's are very open. I feel as though you
have room to thicken the electric gtrs, both lead and rhythm. I also heard
this on the above samples too. Although everything is clean and clear, a bit
more low end would warm them up some and give them substance. And you are
playing great stuff. Your drums and bass sound huge. Great tone on the wah
in all instances and that's tough to do.

Vox - nice placement and levels. The background vox's really surround the
mix.

So that's it. My kneejerk reaction. Keep doing what you are doing. It's
great stuff.

Sincerely,
Wayne Carson
Paris since '97



"W. Mark Wilson" <xpam_mark@avidrecording> wrote in message
news:48d9b821$1@linux...
> Hey boys and girls, when considering all the other places I could have
> taken this, I always came back to "these guys pretty much tell it like it
> is." So I am here for some evaluation of the kneejerk variety. I've had
> this notion to set up for doing guitar tracks across the net but haven't
> been able, until now, to approach it with any due constent infrastructure
> despite having 20GB of server space. And before I do all that (okay, I
> confess, I bought 4 domains - www.hotguitartracks.com, .net, .org, and
> .info - it was cheap - 25 bucks for the first year - nothing hosted yet) I
> wanted to get some feedback from the hood about the main ingredeint, the
> guitar playing, styles, tones, etc.
>
> Yeah, I know, your friends are almost always the wrong folks to ask but
> which day was it that this group didn't collectively hold a high degree of
> objectivity when the thread wasn't a political one? Well, this ain't
> politics so I'm comfy soliciting your grumbles, applause and mediocre
> fanfare so long as it does not include the words "suck" or "dribble" or
> "awsome" or "great."
>
> By no means is the sampling as broad as it could be and the presentation
> here is on a lone, previously hidden page of an existing site which was
> quickly mocked up in the wee hours of a sleepless AM two months ago.
>
> No holds barred, no bars held... go at it... comments solicited without
> construct.... directly to me or here on the group... I don't care so long
> as it is informational and critical. My email is "mark" at the domain
> below.
>
> http://www.avidrecording.com/audio.htm
>
> Thanks in advance.
> W. Mark Wilson
>
> Oh, ps... ANY guitars you hear on these clips are me despite the focus of
> the individual clips and please, please... no comments about my vocal
> chops or I'll, I'll...I'll clip your toe nails really short. Some bass
> and keys stuff on there too but not a focus.
>
Re: Potentially Shameless Preplug... [message #100513 is a reply to message #100507] Tue, 30 September 2008 11:23 Go to previous message
xpam_mark is currently offline  xpam_mark   UNITED STATES
Messages: 126
Registered: March 2007
Senior Member
Wayne, my thoughts exactly on the acoustic and bass stuff. The truth about
those acoutstic and nylon clips is that a couple of years ago, frustrated
that despite haveng been asked for over 20 years "when are you going to do
your own album" I had never done one, I sat down on a Sunday afternoon in
the control room with a single SM57, an acoustic guitar belonging to a
friend, my nylon, nothing more than a coupe or three 8-bar phrases in my
head that I would gravitate toward when I would pick up an acoustic. I
wrote/recorded those tunes sitting in that chair in one day with almost no
attention paid to the computer running in the background, my playing
technique, mic position, mic selection or any of the usual clinical kinds of
things one does when recording. No punching, no doubling, no tempo maps,
none of that. Tracked bone dry, mixed bone dry, compression only, one
setting for every title. Mastered back to PAIRS through my old Ibanez
SDR1000 with one verb setting for the whole record. I had my first 500 CDs
within 7 days of beginning the project. In other words... didn't spend
any time on it. There are some 'embarrassments' on that thing but
interestingly, all my musically inclined cohorts like the realness of the
thing and threaten me when I use the words "remix" or "redo" so.... it is
what it is. And I agree with you totally about the sound.

Great comments on the bass stuff.... Peavy Cirrus and yes, I think it came
out a bit undefined but it was an artist call as to tone. In fact, all that
bass stuff was recut after the entire album was done. The band, IC3, lost
their basis mid-project at another studio. IC3 decided to recut bass tracks
and I got the call. Nothing like jacking up a house and trying to pour a
nice new smooth concrete foundation under it.

I got some more stuff I'll be putting on shortly... getting my site up and
trial running meantime.

Totally dig ALL your comments Wayne... exactly what I was looking for.
Thanks man! Mucho appreciato

W. Mark Wilson

"Wayne Carson" <waynecarson@cox.net> wrote in message news:48e1ac04@linux...
> Hi Mark,
>
> I just got back home, saw your post and checked out your samples. You
> ask'd us to be critical so don't even think for a minute that I'm diss'ing
> you. This is some good music. New, exciting, authentic and more. I'm not
> a pro studio engineer. I'm your average Joe, trying to make a go of
> performing and recording at home. I favor rock and blues, pedal steel
> county and old motown. Our tastes may not coincide. I do have good ears,
> but what I comment on is my taste. You may have a need to cater to a
> specific audience or customer.
>
> So, with that said, hear is what I heard.
>
> 1st great performances on every sample. Nice recordings and mixing chops
> too! Great variety.
>
> Wonderful rhythms and patterns. Tight performances. Perfect stereo
> assignments. Very open mix's. These are quality samples. The musical
> genre sampling is superb. I dig your funk. Your classical is
> interesting. Your gtr leads are excellent and your strumming is tight with
> the band. The bass player and drummer groove well. Your musical samples
> capture me.
>
> But, without further ado . . the other side:
>
> Acoustic samples - nylon tone is totally real with perfect reverb, but, if
> real critical, just a touch over. Steel string leans towards a more
> electric than acoustic tonality. I'm not sure why. The lower strings and
> middle register sound more electric than a sound hole tone. However, the
> upper two strings sound real (B and E).
>
> Bass samples - on the rockin' and funky tunes the bass is tight, clean,
> fat and perfect in the mix. On the mellower stuff I think it could be a
> bit rounder. You know, the type of sound you get with brand new set of
> round wound strings. A clarity and fullness that surround you. On "aint"
> it sounds like the snare is gated off too quickly.
>
> Keyboard samples - B3 is awesome. I'm not a fan of that particular
> electric piano keyboard patch on the lead. It's got a strange attack and
> to me feels brittle. I hear it a lot in R&B and some jazz, but I still
> don't care if. I feel as though a true piano patch would fit in the song
> just as well or maybe something more in the lines of something Billy
> Preston or Ray Charles might try.
>
> Lead and Rhythm samples - Your mix's are very open. I feel as though you
> have room to thicken the electric gtrs, both lead and rhythm. I also heard
> this on the above samples too. Although everything is clean and clear, a
> bit more low end would warm them up some and give them substance. And you
> are playing great stuff. Your drums and bass sound huge. Great tone on
> the wah in all instances and that's tough to do.
>
> Vox - nice placement and levels. The background vox's really surround the
> mix.
>
> So that's it. My kneejerk reaction. Keep doing what you are doing. It's
> great stuff.
>
> Sincerely,
> Wayne Carson
> Paris since '97
>
>
>
> "W. Mark Wilson" <xpam_mark@avidrecording> wrote in message
> news:48d9b821$1@linux...
>> Hey boys and girls, when considering all the other places I could have
>> taken this, I always came back to "these guys pretty much tell it like it
>> is." So I am here for some evaluation of the kneejerk variety. I've had
>> this notion to set up for doing guitar tracks across the net but haven't
>> been able, until now, to approach it with any due constent infrastructure
>> despite having 20GB of server space. And before I do all that (okay, I
>> confess, I bought 4 domains - www.hotguitartracks.com, .net, .org, and
>> .info - it was cheap - 25 bucks for the first year - nothing hosted yet)
>> I wanted to get some feedback from the hood about the main ingredeint,
>> the guitar playing, styles, tones, etc.
>>
>> Yeah, I know, your friends are almost always the wrong folks to ask but
>> which day was it that this group didn't collectively hold a high degree
>> of objectivity when the thread wasn't a political one? Well, this ain't
>> politics so I'm comfy soliciting your grumbles, applause and mediocre
>> fanfare so long as it does not include the words "suck" or "dribble" or
>> "awsome" or "great."
>>
>> By no means is the sampling as broad as it could be and the presentation
>> here is on a lone, previously hidden page of an existing site which was
>> quickly mocked up in the wee hours of a sleepless AM two months ago.
>>
>> No holds barred, no bars held... go at it... comments solicited without
>> construct.... directly to me or here on the group... I don't care so long
>> as it is informational and critical. My email is "mark" at the domain
>> below.
>>
>> http://www.avidrecording.com/audio.htm
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>> W. Mark Wilson
>>
>> Oh, ps... ANY guitars you hear on these clips are me despite the focus of
>> the individual clips and please, please... no comments about my vocal
>> chops or I'll, I'll...I'll clip your toe nails really short. Some bass
>> and keys stuff on there too but not a focus.
>>
>
>
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