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No help yet [message #67099] Wed, 19 April 2006 20:10 Go to next message
Mark Fasbender is currently offline  Mark Fasbender
Messages: 9
Registered: May 2006
Junior Member
I still cant figureout whats going on with my paris setup. I posted earlier
under"Distortion" or something in the general section. Ive had paris a long
time and ive never had anything like this happen. I would really like it
if someone would respond or get ahold of me and perhaps help me troubleshoot
this as I have no clue. thanks
Re: No help yet [message #67101 is a reply to message #67099] Wed, 19 April 2006 20:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Nei is currently offline  Nei
Messages: 108
Registered: November 2006
Senior Member
Repost it... it may have gotten lost in the shuffle... what kind
of distortion are you experiencing, and when does it happen?

Someone can/will help - almost guaranteed.

Neil


"Mark Fasbender" <barkingpig@networld.com> wrote:
>
>I still cant figureout whats going on with my paris setup. I posted earlier
>under"Distortion" or something in the general section. Ive had paris a long
>time and ive never had anything like this happen. I would really like it
>if someone would respond or get ahold of me and perhaps help me troubleshoot
>this as I have no clue. thanks
Re: No help yet [message #67103 is a reply to message #67101] Wed, 19 April 2006 20:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mark Fasbender is currently offline  Mark Fasbender
Messages: 9
Registered: May 2006
Junior Member
"Neil" <OIUOI@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>Repost it... it may have gotten lost in the shuffle... what kind
>of distortion are you experiencing, and when does it happen?
>
>Someone can/will help - almost guaranteed.
>
>Neil
>
>
>"Mark Fasbender" <barkingpig@networld.com> wrote:
>>
>>I still cant figureout whats going on with my paris setup. I posted earlier
>>under"Distortion" or something in the general section. Ive had paris a
long
>>time and ive never had anything like this happen. I would really like it
>>if someone would respond or get ahold of me and perhaps help me troubleshoot
>>this as I have no clue. thanks
>Neil........ My original post is "Still Distorting" in the General group.
Have a look. It is actually more like clocking noise.
Re: No help yet [message #67106 is a reply to message #67103] Wed, 19 April 2006 21:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kim is currently offline  Kim
Messages: 1246
Registered: October 2005
Senior Member
Tell you what... I'll repost it for you. ;o)

----------------

I posted this a couple days ago but I am going to elaborate.

I recently installed a third eds and got a magma chassis. I was messing around
with the clock settings on some transfers that came in from tape when all
hell broke loose. All the submix meters dimed and I couldnt close paris.
When I got it closed I reopened it and the meters were still all the way
up, tried again and everything looked normal.
The audio on subA was really hashy Sounded like a clocking issue. The project
that I saved before this happened works great on all 3 cards. Any thing I
do since that has the same problem. I thought the audio may somehow have
been corrupted so I trashed it and transfered it in again. Same problem.
I used a good project
and transfered the audio into it, Same problem. The problem follows the audio
from card A around. I was going to do a clean install of paris but havent
been able to locate my 3.0 disc. What could I have damaged? Like I say
all the projects from before this occured are fine. If anyone has any ideas
Id like to hear them. Aaron Allen said it sounds like a video card problem.
I dont know how to check that out. Also , When I have a screen up and I move
the mouse I get the same noise on those projects. If anyone knows what is
going on here, please feel free to call me or email your # so I can call
you. My phone is 801 483 9500.Thanks. Mark
Re: No help yet [message #67108 is a reply to message #67106] Wed, 19 April 2006 23:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tom Bruhl is currently offline  Tom Bruhl   UNITED STATES
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Mark,
Transferring from tape. Do you mean ADAT?
If so are you using XP? If so this is almost an impossible task.

Clock? Are you using an external clock? Check all your BNC and
card to card cables.

Try different "new" projects. Is this problem still occuring?

Sounds like the transfer is the problem.

Tell us more!
Tom
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message =
news:44470da1$1@linux...


Tell you what... I'll repost it for you. ;o)

----------------

I posted this a couple days ago but I am going to elaborate.=20

I recently installed a third eds and got a magma chassis. I was =
messing around
with the clock settings on some transfers that came in from tape when =
all
hell broke loose. All the submix meters dimed and I couldnt close =
paris.
When I got it closed I reopened it and the meters were still all the =
way
up, tried again and everything looked normal.
The audio on subA was really hashy Sounded like a clocking issue. The =
project
that I saved before this happened works great on all 3 cards. Any =
thing I
do since that has the same problem. I thought the audio may somehow =
have
been corrupted so I trashed it and transfered it in again. Same =
problem.
I used a good project=20
and transfered the audio into it, Same problem. The problem follows =
the audio
from card A around. I was going to do a clean install of paris but =
havent
been able to locate my 3.0 disc. What could I have damaged? Like I =
say=20
all the projects from before this occured are fine. If anyone has any =
ideas
Id like to hear them. Aaron Allen said it sounds like a video card =
problem.
I dont know how to check that out. Also , When I have a screen up and =
I move
the mouse I get the same noise on those projects. If anyone knows what =
is
going on here, please feel free to call me or email your # so I can =
call
you. My phone is 801 483 9500.Thanks. Mark
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mark,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Transferring from tape.&nbsp; Do you =
mean=20
ADAT?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If so are you using XP?&nbsp; If so =
this is almost=20
an impossible task.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Clock?&nbsp; Are you using an external =
clock?&nbsp;=20
Check all your BNC and</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>card to card cables.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Try different "new" projects.&nbsp; Is =
this problem=20
still occuring?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sounds like the transfer is the=20
problem.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tell us more!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Kim" &lt;<A=20
=
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wrote=20
in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:44470da1$1@linux">news:44470da1$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR><BR>=
Tell=20
you what...&nbsp; I'll repost it for you. =
;o)<BR><BR>----------------<BR><BR>I=20
posted this a couple days ago but I am going to elaborate. <BR><BR>I =
recently=20
installed a third eds and got a magma chassis. I was messing =
around<BR>with=20
the clock settings on some transfers that came in from tape when =
all<BR>hell=20
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got it closed I reopened it and the meters were still all the =
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hashy=20
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happened works great on all 3 cards. Any thing I<BR>do since that has =
the same=20
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paris but=20
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anyone=20
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a video=20
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a=20
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projects. If=20
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email=20
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Re: No help yet [message #67110 is a reply to message #67108] Thu, 20 April 2006 01:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mark Fasbender is currently offline  Mark Fasbender
Messages: 9
Registered: May 2006
Junior Member
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Mark,
>Transferring from tape. Do you mean ADAT?
>If so are you using XP? If so this is almost an impossible task.
>
>Clock? Are you using an external clock? Check all your BNC and
>card to card cables.
>
>Try different "new" projects. Is this problem still occuring?
>
>Sounds like the transfer is the problem.
>
>Tell us more!
>Tom
Tom............ Thanks for your reply. The transfers are from 2 inch,
I have a project that will play these tracks perfectly that seems in every
way identical to the projects that wont.
In fact, if I save a copy as, the tracks will play. If I clear the project
and import the same audio as full length (unedited) files, it will play fine.
However, when I try to open this project from the main Icon, it goes to hell.
This is on top of a clean install as well. I have had paris for 8 years or
so and finall y decided to get a magma and add a third card and a clock.
Perhaps Ive done too many things at once and I need to backtrack. What is
confusing is that projects i did before i dimed the meters work fine on all
3 cards. I thuoght a clean install would take care of it. I wonder if I missed
anything? I dug all the files I cuold find out of the system folder but perhaps
I missed something. The hardware is fine or the early projects wouldnt play
this audio, right? The install should have taken care of any software issues,right?
I am at a loss to explain or cure this problem. Does anyone have a comprehensive
list of what goes where on an install? Any help would be appreciated as this
is my livelyhood and I cant do any work. I have several projects going that
are way too complex to mix on the console. HELP. Thanks.

> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message =
>news:44470da1$1@linux...
>
>
> Tell you what... I'll repost it for you. ;o)
>
> ----------------
>
> I posted this a couple days ago but I am going to elaborate.=20
>
> I recently installed a third eds and got a magma chassis. I was =
>messing around
> with the clock settings on some transfers that came in from tape when
=
>all
> hell broke loose. All the submix meters dimed and I couldnt close =
>paris.
> When I got it closed I reopened it and the meters were still all the =
>way
> up, tried again and everything looked normal.
> The audio on subA was really hashy Sounded like a clocking issue. The
=
>project
> that I saved before this happened works great on all 3 cards. Any =
>thing I
> do since that has the same problem. I thought the audio may somehow =
>have
> been corrupted so I trashed it and transfered it in again. Same =
>problem.
> I used a good project=20
> and transfered the audio into it, Same problem. The problem follows =
>the audio
> from card A around. I was going to do a clean install of paris but =
>havent
> been able to locate my 3.0 disc. What could I have damaged? Like I =
>say=20
> all the projects from before this occured are fine. If anyone has any
=
>ideas
> Id like to hear them. Aaron Allen said it sounds like a video card =
>problem.
> I dont know how to check that out. Also , When I have a screen up and
=
>I move
> the mouse I get the same noise on those projects. If anyone knows what
=
>is
> going on here, please feel free to call me or email your # so I can =
>call
> you. My phone is 801 483 9500.Thanks. Mark
>
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><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mark,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Transferring from tape.&nbsp; Do you =
>mean=20
>ADAT?</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If so are you using XP?&nbsp; If so =
>this is almost=20
>an impossible task.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Clock?&nbsp; Are you using an external
=
>clock?&nbsp;=20
>Check all your BNC and</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>card to card cables.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Try different "new" projects.&nbsp; Is
=
>this problem=20
>still occuring?</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sounds like the transfer is the=20
>problem.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tell us more!</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
><BLOCKQUOTE=20
>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> <DIV>"Kim" &lt;<A=20
> =
>href=3D"mailto:hiddensounds@hotmail.com">hiddensounds@hotmail.com</A>&gt;=
> wrote=20
> in message <A=20
> =
>href=3D"news:44470da1$1@linux">news:44470da1$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR><BR>=
>Tell=20
> you what...&nbsp; I'll repost it for you. =
>;o)<BR><BR>----------------<BR><BR>I=20
> posted this a couple days ago but I am going to elaborate. <BR><BR>I =
>recently=20
> installed a third eds and got a magma chassis. I was messing =
>around<BR>with=20
> the clock settings on some transfers that came in from tape when =
>all<BR>hell=20
> broke loose. All the submix meters dimed and I couldnt close =
>paris.<BR>When I=20
> got it closed I reopened it and the meters were still all the =
>way<BR>up, tried=20
> again and everything looked normal.<BR>The audio on subA was really =
>hashy=20
> Sounded like a clocking issue. The project<BR>that I saved before this
=
>
> happened works great on all 3 cards. Any thing I<BR>do since that has
=
>the same=20
> problem. I thought the audio may somehow have<BR>been corrupted so I =
>trashed=20
> it and transfered it in again. Same problem.<BR>I used a good project
=
><BR>and=20
> transfered the audio into it, Same problem. The problem follows the=20
> audio<BR>from card A around. I was going to do a clean install of =
>paris but=20
> havent<BR>been able to locate my 3.0 disc. What could I have =
>damaged?&nbsp;=20
> Like I say <BR>all the projects from before this occured are fine. If
=
>anyone=20
> has any ideas<BR>Id like to hear them. Aaron Allen said it sounds like
=
>a video=20
> card problem.<BR>I dont know how to check that out. Also , When I have
=
>a=20
> screen up and I move<BR>the mouse I get the same noise on those =
>projects. If=20
> anyone knows what is<BR>going on here, please feel free to call me or
=
>email=20
> your # so I can call<BR>you. My phone is 801 483 9500.Thanks.=20
>Mark</BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
>
>
Re: No help yet [message #67125 is a reply to message #67110] Thu, 20 April 2006 06:51 Go to previous message
Rod Lincoln is currently offline  Rod Lincoln
Messages: 883
Registered: September 2005
Senior Member
Mark, I read your original post, and agree with Aaron. I think it's a video
card issue. What vid card do you use? The way to test this, AFAIK is to get
a new card and see if that fixes it.
Maybe try re-installing the vidcard driver first.

Another thing I'm thinking is clocking. How do you sync up Paris to the 2
inch? Does your problem still persist when you record a fresh audio track
into that ppj? (just recording, not a transfer)
Rod
"Mark Fasbender" <barkingpig@networld.com> wrote:
>
>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Mark,
>>Transferring from tape. Do you mean ADAT?
>>If so are you using XP? If so this is almost an impossible task.
>>
>>Clock? Are you using an external clock? Check all your BNC and
>>card to card cables.
>>
>>Try different "new" projects. Is this problem still occuring?
>>
>>Sounds like the transfer is the problem.
>>
>>Tell us more!
>>Tom
>Tom............ Thanks for your reply. The transfers are from 2 inch,

> I have a project that will play these tracks perfectly that seems in every
>way identical to the projects that wont.
>In fact, if I save a copy as, the tracks will play. If I clear the project
>and import the same audio as full length (unedited) files, it will play
fine.
>However, when I try to open this project from the main Icon, it goes to
hell.
>This is on top of a clean install as well. I have had paris for 8 years
or
>so and finall y decided to get a magma and add a third card and a clock.
>Perhaps Ive done too many things at once and I need to backtrack. What is
>confusing is that projects i did before i dimed the meters work fine on
all
>3 cards. I thuoght a clean install would take care of it. I wonder if I
missed
>anything? I dug all the files I cuold find out of the system folder but
perhaps
>I missed something. The hardware is fine or the early projects wouldnt play
>this audio, right? The install should have taken care of any software issues,right?
> I am at a loss to explain or cure this problem. Does anyone have a comprehensive
>list of what goes where on an install? Any help would be appreciated as
this
>is my livelyhood and I cant do any work. I have several projects going that
>are way too complex to mix on the console. HELP. Thanks.
>
>> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message =
>>news:44470da1$1@linux...
>>
>>
>> Tell you what... I'll repost it for you. ;o)
>>
>> ----------------
>>
>> I posted this a couple days ago but I am going to elaborate.=20
>>
>> I recently installed a third eds and got a magma chassis. I was =
>>messing around
>> with the clock settings on some transfers that came in from tape when
>=
>>all
>> hell broke loose. All the submix meters dimed and I couldnt close =
>>paris.
>> When I got it closed I reopened it and the meters were still all the
=
>>way
>> up, tried again and everything looked normal.
>> The audio on subA was really hashy Sounded like a clocking issue. The
>=
>>project
>> that I saved before this happened works great on all 3 cards. Any =
>>thing I
>> do since that has the same problem. I thought the audio may somehow =
>>have
>> been corrupted so I trashed it and transfered it in again. Same =
>>problem.
>> I used a good project=20
>> and transfered the audio into it, Same problem. The problem follows =
>>the audio
>> from card A around. I was going to do a clean install of paris but =
>>havent
>> been able to locate my 3.0 disc. What could I have damaged? Like I =
>>say=20
>> all the projects from before this occured are fine. If anyone has any
>=
>>ideas
>> Id like to hear them. Aaron Allen said it sounds like a video card =
>>problem.
>> I dont know how to check that out. Also , When I have a screen up and
>=
>>I move
>> the mouse I get the same noise on those projects. If anyone knows what
>=
>>is
>> going on here, please feel free to call me or email your # so I can =
>>call
>> you. My phone is 801 483 9500.Thanks. Mark
>>
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>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mark,</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Transferring from tape.  Do you =
>>mean=20
>>ADAT?</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If so are you using XP?  If so =
>>this is almost=20
>>an impossible task.</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Clock?  Are you using an external
>=
>>clock? =20
>>Check all your BNC and</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>card to card cables.</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Try different "new" projects.  Is
>=
>>this problem=20
>>still occuring?</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sounds like the transfer is the=20
>>problem.</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tell us more!</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>><BLOCKQUOTE=20
>>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>> <DIV>"Kim" <<A=20
>> =
>>href=3D"mailto:hiddensounds@hotmail.com">hiddensounds@hotmail.com</A>>=
>> wrote=20
>> in message <A=20
>> =
>>href=3D"news:44470da1$1@linux">news:44470da1$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR><BR>=
>>Tell=20
>> you what...  I'll repost it for you. =
>>;o)<BR><BR>----------------<BR><BR>I=20
>> posted this a couple days ago but I am going to elaborate. <BR><BR>I
=
>>recently=20
>> installed a third eds and got a magma chassis. I was messing =
>>around<BR>with=20
>> the clock settings on some transfers that came in from tape when =
>>all<BR>hell=20
>> broke loose. All the submix meters dimed and I couldnt close =
>>paris.<BR>When I=20
>> got it closed I reopened it and the meters were still all the =
>>way<BR>up, tried=20
>> again and everything looked normal.<BR>The audio on subA was really =
>>hashy=20
>> Sounded like a clocking issue. The project<BR>that I saved before this
>=
>>
>> happened works great on all 3 cards. Any thing I<BR>do since that has
>=
>>the same=20
>> problem. I thought the audio may somehow have<BR>been corrupted so I
=
>>trashed=20
>> it and transfered it in again. Same problem.<BR>I used a good project
>=
>><BR>and=20
>> transfered the audio into it, Same problem. The problem follows the=20
>> audio<BR>from card A around. I was going to do a clean install of =
>>paris but=20
>> havent<BR>been able to locate my 3.0 disc. What could I have =
>>damaged? =20
>> Like I say <BR>all the projects from before this occured are fine. If
>=
>>anyone=20
>> has any ideas<BR>Id like to hear them. Aaron Allen said it sounds like
>=
>>a video=20
>> card problem.<BR>I dont know how to check that out. Also , When I have
>=
>>a=20
>> screen up and I move<BR>the mouse I get the same noise on those =
>>projects. If=20
>> anyone knows what is<BR>going on here, please feel free to call me or
>=
>>email=20
>> your # so I can call<BR>you. My phone is 801 483 9500.Thanks.=20
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