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| OK the. Now I get it. [message #78604] |
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Deej [4]
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Many will recall that on July 8, 1947, witnesses claimed that an
unidentified object with five aliens aboard crashed onto a sheep
ranch just outside Roswell, New Mexico.
This is a well-known incident that many say has long been covered
up by the U.S. Air Force and the federal government.
However, you may NOT know that in the month of March 1948, exactly
nine months after that historic day, Albert Arnold Gore, Jr.,
Hillary Rodham, John F. Kerry, William Jefferson Clinton, Ted Kennedy,
Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi, Dianne Feinstein, Charles E. Schumer, and Barbara
Boxer were born.
Hmmmmm..........what a great piece of information.
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| Re: OK the. Now I get it. [message #78605 is a reply to message #78604] |
Thu, 18 January 2007 21:03  |
Kim
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LOL... ohhhh... now you've done it. ;o)
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>Many will recall that on July 8, 1947, witnesses claimed that an
>unidentified object with five aliens aboard crashed onto a sheep
>ranch just outside Roswell, New Mexico.
>This is a well-known incident that many say has long been covered
>up by the U.S. Air Force and the federal government.
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>However, you may NOT know that in the month of March 1948, exactly
>nine months after that historic day, Albert Arnold Gore, Jr.,
>Hillary Rodham, John F. Kerry, William Jefferson Clinton, Ted Kennedy,
>Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi, Dianne Feinstein, Charles E. Schumer, and Barbara
>Boxer were born.
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>Hmmmmm..........what a great piece of information.
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| Re: OK the. Now I get it. [message #78606 is a reply to message #78604] |
Thu, 18 January 2007 21:18 |
excelav
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Now that's funny! I've been wondering what the hell is up with these people.
I think the fat bloated one is there leader; )
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>Many will recall that on July 8, 1947, witnesses claimed that an
>unidentified object with five aliens aboard crashed onto a sheep
>ranch just outside Roswell, New Mexico.
>This is a well-known incident that many say has long been covered
>up by the U.S. Air Force and the federal government.
>
>However, you may NOT know that in the month of March 1948, exactly
>nine months after that historic day, Albert Arnold Gore, Jr.,
>Hillary Rodham, John F. Kerry, William Jefferson Clinton, Ted Kennedy,
>Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi, Dianne Feinstein, Charles E. Schumer, and Barbara
>Boxer were born.
>
>Hmmmmm..........what a great piece of information.
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| Re: OK the. Now I get it. [message #78607 is a reply to message #78604] |
Thu, 18 January 2007 21:23 |
gene lennon
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"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>Many will recall that on July 8, 1947, witnesses claimed that an
>unidentified object with five aliens aboard crashed onto a sheep
>ranch just outside Roswell, New Mexico.
>This is a well-known incident that many say has long been covered
>up by the U.S. Air Force and the federal government.
>
>However, you may NOT know that in the month of March 1948, exactly
>nine months after that historic day, Albert Arnold Gore, Jr.,
>Hillary Rodham, John F. Kerry, William Jefferson Clinton, Ted Kennedy,
>Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi, Dianne Feinstein, Charles E. Schumer, and Barbara
>Boxer were born.
>
>Hmmmmm..........what a great piece of information.
>
>
Please don’t tell me that the last vestiges of Bush support in the world
are all gathered on the Paris users group!!
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| Re: OK the. Now I get it. [message #78608 is a reply to message #78605] |
Thu, 18 January 2007 20:41 |
Dedric Terry
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Seriously, Ted K. isn't 15 yrs older than the rest of them?
Ouch.
On 1/18/07 10:03 PM, in article 45b0430c$1@linux, "Kim"
<hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> LOL... ohhhh... now you've done it. ;o)
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> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>> Many will recall that on July 8, 1947, witnesses claimed that an
>> unidentified object with five aliens aboard crashed onto a sheep
>> ranch just outside Roswell, New Mexico.
>> This is a well-known incident that many say has long been covered
>> up by the U.S. Air Force and the federal government.
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>> However, you may NOT know that in the month of March 1948, exactly
>> nine months after that historic day, Albert Arnold Gore, Jr.,
>> Hillary Rodham, John F. Kerry, William Jefferson Clinton, Ted Kennedy,
>> Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi, Dianne Feinstein, Charles E. Schumer, and Barbara
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>> Boxer were born.
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>> Hmmmmm..........what a great piece of information.
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| Re: OK the. Now I get it. [message #78609 is a reply to message #78607] |
Thu, 18 January 2007 21:46 |
excelav
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When I was a kid I use to drink Bush. Hey I was on a budget; )
"Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
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>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>Many will recall that on July 8, 1947, witnesses claimed that an
>>unidentified object with five aliens aboard crashed onto a sheep
>>ranch just outside Roswell, New Mexico.
>>This is a well-known incident that many say has long been covered
>>up by the U.S. Air Force and the federal government.
>>
>>However, you may NOT know that in the month of March 1948, exactly
>>nine months after that historic day, Albert Arnold Gore, Jr.,
>>Hillary Rodham, John F. Kerry, William Jefferson Clinton, Ted Kennedy,
>>Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi, Dianne Feinstein, Charles E. Schumer, and Barbara
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>>Boxer were born.
>>
>>Hmmmmm..........what a great piece of information.
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>Please don’t tell me that the last vestiges of Bush support in the world
>are all gathered on the Paris users group!!
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| Re: OK the. Now I get it. [message #78612 is a reply to message #78607] |
Thu, 18 January 2007 21:10 |
Deej [4]
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These folks don't need Bush as a comparative in order to qualify......;o)
"Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote in message
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> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>Many will recall that on July 8, 1947, witnesses claimed that an
>>unidentified object with five aliens aboard crashed onto a sheep
>>ranch just outside Roswell, New Mexico.
>>This is a well-known incident that many say has long been covered
>>up by the U.S. Air Force and the federal government.
>>
>>However, you may NOT know that in the month of March 1948, exactly
>>nine months after that historic day, Albert Arnold Gore, Jr.,
>>Hillary Rodham, John F. Kerry, William Jefferson Clinton, Ted Kennedy,
>>Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi, Dianne Feinstein, Charles E. Schumer, and
>>Barbara
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>>Boxer were born.
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>>Hmmmmm..........what a great piece of information.
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> Please don't tell me that the last vestiges of Bush support in the world
> are all gathered on the Paris users group!!
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| Re: OK the. Now I get it. [message #78613 is a reply to message #78608] |
Thu, 18 January 2007 21:13 |
Deej [4]
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Awwww........I think this is just a joke...........at least, I hope so.
Still, the concept (pun intended) seems credible..
;oD
"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote in message
news:C1D59A19.6C9A%dterry@keyofd.net...
> Seriously, Ted K. isn't 15 yrs older than the rest of them?
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> Ouch.
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> On 1/18/07 10:03 PM, in article 45b0430c$1@linux, "Kim"
> <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>> LOL... ohhhh... now you've done it. ;o)
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>> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>> Many will recall that on July 8, 1947, witnesses claimed that an
>>> unidentified object with five aliens aboard crashed onto a sheep
>>> ranch just outside Roswell, New Mexico.
>>> This is a well-known incident that many say has long been covered
>>> up by the U.S. Air Force and the federal government.
>>>
>>> However, you may NOT know that in the month of March 1948, exactly
>>> nine months after that historic day, Albert Arnold Gore, Jr.,
>>> Hillary Rodham, John F. Kerry, William Jefferson Clinton, Ted Kennedy,
>>> Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi, Dianne Feinstein, Charles E. Schumer, and
>>> Barbara
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>>> Boxer were born.
>>>
>>> Hmmmmm..........what a great piece of information.
>>>
>>>
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| Re: OK the. Now I get it. [message #78614 is a reply to message #78608] |
Thu, 18 January 2007 21:19 |
Deej [4]
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Teddy's 70.
http://www.southcoasttoday.com/daily/02-02/02-24-02/b01wn053 .htm
..
"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote in message
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> Seriously, Ted K. isn't 15 yrs older than the rest of them?
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> Ouch.
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> On 1/18/07 10:03 PM, in article 45b0430c$1@linux, "Kim"
> <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>> LOL... ohhhh... now you've done it. ;o)
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>> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>> Many will recall that on July 8, 1947, witnesses claimed that an
>>> unidentified object with five aliens aboard crashed onto a sheep
>>> ranch just outside Roswell, New Mexico.
>>> This is a well-known incident that many say has long been covered
>>> up by the U.S. Air Force and the federal government.
>>>
>>> However, you may NOT know that in the month of March 1948, exactly
>>> nine months after that historic day, Albert Arnold Gore, Jr.,
>>> Hillary Rodham, John F. Kerry, William Jefferson Clinton, Ted Kennedy,
>>> Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi, Dianne Feinstein, Charles E. Schumer, and
>>> Barbara
>>
>>> Boxer were born.
>>>
>>> Hmmmmm..........what a great piece of information.
>>>
>>>
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| Re: OK the. Now I get it. [message #78623 is a reply to message #78604] |
Fri, 19 January 2007 01:47 |
rick
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forgot to drink you water again did ya?
On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 20:51:02 -0700, "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com>
wrote:
>Many will recall that on July 8, 1947, witnesses claimed that an
>unidentified object with five aliens aboard crashed onto a sheep
>ranch just outside Roswell, New Mexico.
>This is a well-known incident that many say has long been covered
>up by the U.S. Air Force and the federal government.
>
>However, you may NOT know that in the month of March 1948, exactly
>nine months after that historic day, Albert Arnold Gore, Jr.,
>Hillary Rodham, John F. Kerry, William Jefferson Clinton, Ted Kennedy,
>Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi, Dianne Feinstein, Charles E. Schumer, and Barbara
>Boxer were born.
>
>Hmmmmm..........what a great piece of information.
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| Re: OK the. Now I get it. [message #78625 is a reply to message #78609] |
Fri, 19 January 2007 01:50 |
rick
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splains a lot...;o)
On 19 Jan 2007 15:46:55 +1000, "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com>
wrote:
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>When I was a kid I use to drink Bush. Hey I was on a budget; )
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>"Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
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>>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>Many will recall that on July 8, 1947, witnesses claimed that an
>>>unidentified object with five aliens aboard crashed onto a sheep
>>>ranch just outside Roswell, New Mexico.
>>>This is a well-known incident that many say has long been covered
>>>up by the U.S. Air Force and the federal government.
>>>
>>>However, you may NOT know that in the month of March 1948, exactly
>>>nine months after that historic day, Albert Arnold Gore, Jr.,
>>>Hillary Rodham, John F. Kerry, William Jefferson Clinton, Ted Kennedy,
>>>Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi, Dianne Feinstein, Charles E. Schumer, and Barbara
>>
>>>Boxer were born.
>>>
>>>Hmmmmm..........what a great piece of information.
>>>
>>>
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>>Please don’t tell me that the last vestiges of Bush support in the world
>>are all gathered on the Paris users group!!
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| Re: OK the. Now I get it. [message #78633 is a reply to message #78625] |
Fri, 19 January 2007 08:33 |
excelav
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Hey, I wasn't any where near Canada back then. As a friend used to say, after
the first ten, it all taste the same; )
rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>splains a lot...;o)
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>On 19 Jan 2007 15:46:55 +1000, "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com>
>wrote:
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>>When I was a kid I use to drink Bush. Hey I was on a budget; )
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>>"Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
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>>>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>>Many will recall that on July 8, 1947, witnesses claimed that an
>>>>unidentified object with five aliens aboard crashed onto a sheep
>>>>ranch just outside Roswell, New Mexico.
>>>>This is a well-known incident that many say has long been covered
>>>>up by the U.S. Air Force and the federal government.
>>>>
>>>>However, you may NOT know that in the month of March 1948, exactly
>>>>nine months after that historic day, Albert Arnold Gore, Jr.,
>>>>Hillary Rodham, John F. Kerry, William Jefferson Clinton, Ted Kennedy,
>>>>Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi, Dianne Feinstein, Charles E. Schumer, and
Barbara
>>>
>>>>Boxer were born.
>>>>
>>>>Hmmmmm..........what a great piece of information.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Please don’t tell me that the last vestiges of Bush support in the world
>>>are all gathered on the Paris users group!!
>
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| Re: OK the. Now I get it. [message #78648 is a reply to message #78633] |
Fri, 19 January 2007 08:31 |
rick
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strohs and fire brewed lake st. claire...nummy.
On 20 Jan 2007 02:33:50 +1000, "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com>
wrote:
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>Hey, I wasn't any where near Canada back then. As a friend used to say, after
>the first ten, it all taste the same; )
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>rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>splains a lot...;o)
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>>On 19 Jan 2007 15:46:55 +1000, "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com>
>>wrote:
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>>>When I was a kid I use to drink Bush. Hey I was on a budget; )
>>>
>>>"Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>>>Many will recall that on July 8, 1947, witnesses claimed that an
>>>>>unidentified object with five aliens aboard crashed onto a sheep
>>>>>ranch just outside Roswell, New Mexico.
>>>>>This is a well-known incident that many say has long been covered
>>>>>up by the U.S. Air Force and the federal government.
>>>>>
>>>>>However, you may NOT know that in the month of March 1948, exactly
>>>>>nine months after that historic day, Albert Arnold Gore, Jr.,
>>>>>Hillary Rodham, John F. Kerry, William Jefferson Clinton, Ted Kennedy,
>>>>>Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi, Dianne Feinstein, Charles E. Schumer, and
>Barbara
>>>>
>>>>>Boxer were born.
>>>>>
>>>>>Hmmmmm..........what a great piece of information.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Please don’t tell me that the last vestiges of Bush support in the world
>>>>are all gathered on the Paris users group!!
>>
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| Re: OK the. Now I get it. [message #78655 is a reply to message #78648] |
Fri, 19 January 2007 10:04 |
excelav
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rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>strohs and fire brewed lake st. claire...nummy.
I started my drinking career in St. Louis, that would be AB country. $2.00
for a six pack of Bush. Ten bucks could get you and a friend annihilated.
It's funny you mention it, I actually grow up in St. Claire S., but I was
never much for Strohs beer, but I like their Ice cream.
It's funny how life changes and things that were once important to you are
not so important anymore. I rarely drink now days. I know, that's my problem,
right?
James
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>On 20 Jan 2007 02:33:50 +1000, "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com>
>wrote:
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>>Hey, I wasn't any where near Canada back then. As a friend used to say,
after
>>the first ten, it all taste the same; )
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>>rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>splains a lot...;o)
>>>
>>>On 19 Jan 2007 15:46:55 +1000, "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>When I was a kid I use to drink Bush. Hey I was on a budget; )
>>>>
>>>>"Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>>>>Many will recall that on July 8, 1947, witnesses claimed that an
>>>>>>unidentified object with five aliens aboard crashed onto a sheep
>>>>>>ranch just outside Roswell, New Mexico.
>>>>>>This is a well-known incident that many say has long been covered
>>>>>>up by the U.S. Air Force and the federal government.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>However, you may NOT know that in the month of March 1948, exactly
>>>>>>nine months after that historic day, Albert Arnold Gore, Jr.,
>>>>>>Hillary Rodham, John F. Kerry, William Jefferson Clinton, Ted Kennedy,
>>>>>>Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi, Dianne Feinstein, Charles E. Schumer, and
>>Barbara
>>>>>
>>>>>>Boxer were born.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Hmmmmm..........what a great piece of information.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Please don’t tell me that the last vestiges of Bush support in the world
>>>>>are all gathered on the Paris users group!!
>>>
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| Re: OK the. Now I get it. [message #78658 is a reply to message #78648] |
Fri, 19 January 2007 09:09 |
Deej [4]
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I lost it on a snowmobile going about 60mph on Lake St. Claire in Feb 1980.
I must have bounced and skidded for half a mile. Luckily the snowmobile went
one way and I went another. Thank god for snowmobile suits.
"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> strohs and fire brewed lake st. claire...nummy.
>
> On 20 Jan 2007 02:33:50 +1000, "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
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>>e
>>Hey, I wasn't any where near Canada back then. As a friend used to say,
>>after
>>the first ten, it all taste the same; )
>>
>>rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>splains a lot...;o)
>>>
>>>On 19 Jan 2007 15:46:55 +1000, "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>When I was a kid I use to drink Bush. Hey I was on a budget; )
>>>>
>>>>"Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>>>>Many will recall that on July 8, 1947, witnesses claimed that an
>>>>>>unidentified object with five aliens aboard crashed onto a sheep
>>>>>>ranch just outside Roswell, New Mexico.
>>>>>>This is a well-known incident that many say has long been covered
>>>>>>up by the U.S. Air Force and the federal government.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>However, you may NOT know that in the month of March 1948, exactly
>>>>>>nine months after that historic day, Albert Arnold Gore, Jr.,
>>>>>>Hillary Rodham, John F. Kerry, William Jefferson Clinton, Ted Kennedy,
>>>>>>Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi, Dianne Feinstein, Charles E. Schumer, and
>>Barbara
>>>>>
>>>>>>Boxer were born.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Hmmmmm..........what a great piece of information.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Please don't tell me that the last vestiges of Bush support in the
>>>>>world
>>>>>are all gathered on the Paris users group!!
>>>
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| Re: OK the. Now I get it. [message #78665 is a reply to message #78655] |
Fri, 19 January 2007 10:26 |
rick
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i'l toast to your sobriety in a few hours...it's the weekend and th e5
day drought is over.
i agree about the beer thing. actually i think we use to refer to
strohs as fire brewed piss water. when i did beer it was usually of
the neighbor to the north variety.
On 20 Jan 2007 04:04:53 +1000, "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com>
wrote:
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>rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>strohs and fire brewed lake st. claire...nummy.
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>I started my drinking career in St. Louis, that would be AB country. $2.00
>for a six pack of Bush. Ten bucks could get you and a friend annihilated.
>
>It's funny you mention it, I actually grow up in St. Claire S., but I was
>never much for Strohs beer, but I like their Ice cream.
>
>It's funny how life changes and things that were once important to you are
>not so important anymore. I rarely drink now days. I know, that's my problem,
>right?
>
>James
>
>>
>>On 20 Jan 2007 02:33:50 +1000, "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com>
>>wrote:
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>>>
>>>Hey, I wasn't any where near Canada back then. As a friend used to say,
>after
>>>the first ten, it all taste the same; )
>>>
>>>rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>splains a lot...;o)
>>>>
>>>>On 19 Jan 2007 15:46:55 +1000, "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>When I was a kid I use to drink Bush. Hey I was on a budget; )
>>>>>
>>>>>"Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>Many will recall that on July 8, 1947, witnesses claimed that an
>>>>>>>unidentified object with five aliens aboard crashed onto a sheep
>>>>>>>ranch just outside Roswell, New Mexico.
>>>>>>>This is a well-known incident that many say has long been covered
>>>>>>>up by the U.S. Air Force and the federal government.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>However, you may NOT know that in the month of March 1948, exactly
>>>>>>>nine months after that historic day, Albert Arnold Gore, Jr.,
>>>>>>>Hillary Rodham, John F. Kerry, William Jefferson Clinton, Ted Kennedy,
>>>>>>>Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi, Dianne Feinstein, Charles E. Schumer, and
>>>Barbara
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Boxer were born.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hmmmmm..........what a great piece of information.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Please don’t tell me that the last vestiges of Bush support in the world
>>>>>>are all gathered on the Paris users group!!
>>>>
>>
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| Re: OK the. Now I get it. [message #78675 is a reply to message #78604] |
Fri, 19 January 2007 14:15 |
Jamie K
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Heh. Why am I not surprised that Frank Luntz is involved?
http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_roswell_democrats.h tm
Anyway, bdays listed there:
Hillary Clinton: October 26, 1947
John Kerry: December 11, 1943
Bill Clinton - August 19, 1946
Howard Dean - November 17, 1948
Nancy Pelosi - March 26, 1940
Dianne Feinstein - June 22, 1933
Charles Schumer - November 23, 1950
Barbara Boxer - November 11, 1940
So clearly since this bunch doesn't qualify, there must be OTHER aliens
wandering around, perhaps in positions of power...
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
DJ wrote:
> Many will recall that on July 8, 1947, witnesses claimed that an
> unidentified object with five aliens aboard crashed onto a sheep
> ranch just outside Roswell, New Mexico.
> This is a well-known incident that many say has long been covered
> up by the U.S. Air Force and the federal government.
>
> However, you may NOT know that in the month of March 1948, exactly
> nine months after that historic day, Albert Arnold Gore, Jr.,
> Hillary Rodham, John F. Kerry, William Jefferson Clinton, Ted Kennedy,
> Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi, Dianne Feinstein, Charles E. Schumer, and Barbara
> Boxer were born.
>
> Hmmmmm..........what a great piece of information.
>
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| Re: OK the. Now I get it. [message #78677 is a reply to message #78675] |
Fri, 19 January 2007 14:46 |
Deej [4]
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.........heheheh!!!!!!!!!...........funny how it is easy to accept it without
much questioning though, isn't it?
"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:45b1438a$1@linux...
>
> Heh. Why am I not surprised that Frank Luntz is involved?
>
> http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_roswell_democrats.h tm
>
> Anyway, bdays listed there:
> Hillary Clinton: October 26, 1947
> John Kerry: December 11, 1943
> Bill Clinton - August 19, 1946
> Howard Dean - November 17, 1948
> Nancy Pelosi - March 26, 1940
> Dianne Feinstein - June 22, 1933
> Charles Schumer - November 23, 1950
> Barbara Boxer - November 11, 1940
>
> So clearly since this bunch doesn't qualify, there must be OTHER aliens
> wandering around, perhaps in positions of power...
>
> Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
> DJ wrote:
>> Many will recall that on July 8, 1947, witnesses claimed that an
>> unidentified object with five aliens aboard crashed onto a sheep
>> ranch just outside Roswell, New Mexico.
>> This is a well-known incident that many say has long been covered
>> up by the U.S. Air Force and the federal government.
>>
>> However, you may NOT know that in the month of March 1948, exactly
>> nine months after that historic day, Albert Arnold Gore, Jr.,
>> Hillary Rodham, John F. Kerry, William Jefferson Clinton, Ted Kennedy,
>> Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi, Dianne Feinstein, Charles E. Schumer, and
>> Barbara Boxer were born.
>>
>> Hmmmmm..........what a great piece of information.
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| Re: OK the. Now I get it. [message #78681 is a reply to message #78677] |
Fri, 19 January 2007 15:51 |
Jamie K
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DJ wrote:
> ........heheheh!!!!!!!!!...........funny how it is easy to accept it without
> much questioning though, isn't it?
Um, yeah, right. Uh...seen any flying saucers lately?
I have a nice comfy shirt for you, it holds your arms in a hug...
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:45b1438a$1@linux...
>> Heh. Why am I not surprised that Frank Luntz is involved?
>>
>> http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_roswell_democrats.h tm
>>
>> Anyway, bdays listed there:
>> Hillary Clinton: October 26, 1947
>> John Kerry: December 11, 1943
>> Bill Clinton - August 19, 1946
>> Howard Dean - November 17, 1948
>> Nancy Pelosi - March 26, 1940
>> Dianne Feinstein - June 22, 1933
>> Charles Schumer - November 23, 1950
>> Barbara Boxer - November 11, 1940
>>
>> So clearly since this bunch doesn't qualify, there must be OTHER aliens
>> wandering around, perhaps in positions of power...
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>> DJ wrote:
>>> Many will recall that on July 8, 1947, witnesses claimed that an
>>> unidentified object with five aliens aboard crashed onto a sheep
>>> ranch just outside Roswell, New Mexico.
>>> This is a well-known incident that many say has long been covered
>>> up by the U.S. Air Force and the federal government.
>>>
>>> However, you may NOT know that in the month of March 1948, exactly
>>> nine months after that historic day, Albert Arnold Gore, Jr.,
>>> Hillary Rodham, John F. Kerry, William Jefferson Clinton, Ted Kennedy,
>>> Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi, Dianne Feinstein, Charles E. Schumer, and
>>> Barbara Boxer were born.
>>>
>>> Hmmmmm..........what a great piece of information.
>
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| Re: OK the. Now I get it. [message #78688 is a reply to message #78677] |
Sat, 20 January 2007 02:53 |
rick
Messages: 1976
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that's why god created republicans...;o)
On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 15:46:11 -0700, "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com>
wrote:
>........heheheh!!!!!!!!!...........funny how it is easy to accept it without
>much questioning though, isn't it?
>
>
>"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:45b1438a$1@linux...
>>
>> Heh. Why am I not surprised that Frank Luntz is involved?
>>
>> http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_roswell_democrats.h tm
>>
>> Anyway, bdays listed there:
>> Hillary Clinton: October 26, 1947
>> John Kerry: December 11, 1943
>> Bill Clinton - August 19, 1946
>> Howard Dean - November 17, 1948
>> Nancy Pelosi - March 26, 1940
>> Dianne Feinstein - June 22, 1933
>> Charles Schumer - November 23, 1950
>> Barbara Boxer - November 11, 1940
>>
>> So clearly since this bunch doesn't qualify, there must be OTHER aliens
>> wandering around, perhaps in positions of power...
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>> DJ wrote:
>>> Many will recall that on July 8, 1947, witnesses claimed that an
>>> unidentified object with five aliens aboard crashed onto a sheep
>>> ranch just outside Roswell, New Mexico.
>>> This is a well-known incident that many say has long been covered
>>> up by the U.S. Air Force and the federal government.
>>>
>>> However, you may NOT know that in the month of March 1948, exactly
>>> nine months after that historic day, Albert Arnold Gore, Jr.,
>>> Hillary Rodham, John F. Kerry, William Jefferson Clinton, Ted Kennedy,
>>> Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi, Dianne Feinstein, Charles E. Schumer, and
>>> Barbara Boxer were born.
>>>
>>> Hmmmmm..........what a great piece of information.
>
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| Re: OK the. Now I get it. [message #78689 is a reply to message #78688] |
Sat, 20 January 2007 08:51 |
Deej [4]
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ROTFL!!!.........and so who created democrats???.....Jimmy Durante?
"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:m3t3r2da0h3gkh2qmpuh8s9frp5no60p54@4ax.com...
> that's why god created republicans...;o)
>
> On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 15:46:11 -0700, "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com>
> wrote:
>
>>........heheheh!!!!!!!!!...........funny how it is easy to accept it
>>without
>>much questioning though, isn't it?
>>
>>
>>"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:45b1438a$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Heh. Why am I not surprised that Frank Luntz is involved?
>>>
>>> http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_roswell_democrats.h tm
>>>
>>> Anyway, bdays listed there:
>>> Hillary Clinton: October 26, 1947
>>> John Kerry: December 11, 1943
>>> Bill Clinton - August 19, 1946
>>> Howard Dean - November 17, 1948
>>> Nancy Pelosi - March 26, 1940
>>> Dianne Feinstein - June 22, 1933
>>> Charles Schumer - November 23, 1950
>>> Barbara Boxer - November 11, 1940
>>>
>>> So clearly since this bunch doesn't qualify, there must be OTHER aliens
>>> wandering around, perhaps in positions of power...
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> -Jamie
>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>
>>>
>>> DJ wrote:
>>>> Many will recall that on July 8, 1947, witnesses claimed that an
>>>> unidentified object with five aliens aboard crashed onto a sheep
>>>> ranch just outside Roswell, New Mexico.
>>>> This is a well-known incident that many say has long been covered
>>>> up by the U.S. Air Force and the federal government.
>>>>
>>>> However, you may NOT know that in the month of March 1948, exactly
>>>> nine months after that historic day, Albert Arnold Gore, Jr.,
>>>> Hillary Rodham, John F. Kerry, William Jefferson Clinton, Ted Kennedy,
>>>> Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi, Dianne Feinstein, Charles E. Schumer, and
>>>> Barbara Boxer were born.
>>>>
>>>> Hmmmmm..........what a great piece of information.
>>
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| Re: OK the. Now I get it. [message #78693 is a reply to message #78689] |
Sat, 20 January 2007 11:18 |
Jamie K
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Whoever created any group that can "accept without much questioning" is
probably an insecure moron or clever dictator wannabe.
They say Democrats are tougher to herd. Probably a good thing.
Independents can't even be rounded up. More pesky questioning than you
can shake a dittohead at.
Maybe that's why Rove likes to keep public appearances of his guy closed
to the actual public.
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
DJ wrote:
> ROTFL!!!.........and so who created democrats???.....Jimmy Durante?
>
>
>
> "rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:m3t3r2da0h3gkh2qmpuh8s9frp5no60p54@4ax.com...
>> that's why god created republicans...;o)
>>
>> On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 15:46:11 -0700, "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> ........heheheh!!!!!!!!!...........funny how it is easy to accept it
>>> without
>>> much questioning though, isn't it?
>>>
>>>
>>> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:45b1438a$1@linux...
>>>> Heh. Why am I not surprised that Frank Luntz is involved?
>>>>
>>>> http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_roswell_democrats.h tm
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, bdays listed there:
>>>> Hillary Clinton: October 26, 1947
>>>> John Kerry: December 11, 1943
>>>> Bill Clinton - August 19, 1946
>>>> Howard Dean - November 17, 1948
>>>> Nancy Pelosi - March 26, 1940
>>>> Dianne Feinstein - June 22, 1933
>>>> Charles Schumer - November 23, 1950
>>>> Barbara Boxer - November 11, 1940
>>>>
>>>> So clearly since this bunch doesn't qualify, there must be OTHER aliens
>>>> wandering around, perhaps in positions of power...
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> -Jamie
>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> DJ wrote:
>>>>> Many will recall that on July 8, 1947, witnesses claimed that an
>>>>> unidentified object with five aliens aboard crashed onto a sheep
>>>>> ranch just outside Roswell, New Mexico.
>>>>> This is a well-known incident that many say has long been covered
>>>>> up by the U.S. Air Force and the federal government.
>>>>>
>>>>> However, you may NOT know that in the month of March 1948, exactly
>>>>> nine months after that historic day, Albert Arnold Gore, Jr.,
>>>>> Hillary Rodham, John F. Kerry, William Jefferson Clinton, Ted Kennedy,
>>>>> Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi, Dianne Feinstein, Charles E. Schumer, and
>>>>> Barbara Boxer were born.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hmmmmm..........what a great piece of information.
>
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| Re: OK the. Now I get it. [message #78736 is a reply to message #78689] |
Sun, 21 January 2007 02:48 |
rick
Messages: 1976
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someone in the alice b. tokelas lineage i'm sure...
On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 09:51:40 -0700, "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com>
wrote:
>ROTFL!!!.........and so who created democrats???.....Jimmy Durante?
>
>
>
>"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:m3t3r2da0h3gkh2qmpuh8s9frp5no60p54@4ax.com...
>> that's why god created republicans...;o)
>>
>> On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 15:46:11 -0700, "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>........heheheh!!!!!!!!!...........funny how it is easy to accept it
>>>without
>>>much questioning though, isn't it?
>>>
>>>
>>>"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:45b1438a$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Heh. Why am I not surprised that Frank Luntz is involved?
>>>>
>>>> http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_roswell_democrats.h tm
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, bdays listed there:
>>>> Hillary Clinton: October 26, 1947
>>>> John Kerry: December 11, 1943
>>>> Bill Clinton - August 19, 1946
>>>> Howard Dean - November 17, 1948
>>>> Nancy Pelosi - March 26, 1940
>>>> Dianne Feinstein - June 22, 1933
>>>> Charles Schumer - November 23, 1950
>>>> Barbara Boxer - November 11, 1940
>>>>
>>>> So clearly since this bunch doesn't qualify, there must be OTHER aliens
>>>> wandering around, perhaps in positions of power...
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> -Jamie
>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> DJ wrote:
>>>>> Many will recall that on July 8, 1947, witnesses claimed that an
>>>>> unidentified object with five aliens aboard crashed onto a sheep
>>>>> ranch just outside Roswell, New Mexico.
>>>>> This is a well-known incident that many say has long been covered
>>>>> up by the U.S. Air Force and the federal government.
>>>>>
>>>>> However, you may NOT know that in the month of March 1948, exactly
>>>>> nine months after that historic day, Albert Arnold Gore, Jr.,
>>>>> Hillary Rodham, John F. Kerry, William Jefferson Clinton, Ted Kennedy,
>>>>> Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi, Dianne Feinstein, Charles E. Schumer, and
>>>>> Barbara Boxer were born.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hmmmmm..........what a great piece of information.
>>>
>>
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| Re: OK the. Now I get it. [message #78744 is a reply to message #78693] |
Sun, 21 January 2007 08:44 |
Deej [4]
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I just get this feeling that the Lemming gene is spliced into the party DNA
somewhere...........
"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:45b26b5a@linux...
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> Whoever created any group that can "accept without much questioning" is
> probably an insecure moron or clever dictator wannabe.
>
> They say Democrats are tougher to herd. Probably a good thing.
>
> Independents can't even be rounded up. More pesky questioning than you can
> shake a dittohead at.
>
> Maybe that's why Rove likes to keep public appearances of his guy closed
> to the actual public.
>
> Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
>
> DJ wrote:
>> ROTFL!!!.........and so who created democrats???.....Jimmy Durante?
>>
>>
>>
>> "rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:m3t3r2da0h3gkh2qmpuh8s9frp5no60p54@4ax.com...
>>> that's why god created republicans...;o)
>>>
>>> On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 15:46:11 -0700, "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> ........heheheh!!!!!!!!!...........funny how it is easy to accept it
>>>> without
>>>> much questioning though, isn't it?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:45b1438a$1@linux...
>>>>> Heh. Why am I not surprised that Frank Luntz is involved?
>>>>>
>>>>> http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_roswell_democrats.h tm
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyway, bdays listed there:
>>>>> Hillary Clinton: October 26, 1947
>>>>> John Kerry: December 11, 1943
>>>>> Bill Clinton - August 19, 1946
>>>>> Howard Dean - November 17, 1948
>>>>> Nancy Pelosi - March 26, 1940
>>>>> Dianne Feinstein - June 22, 1933
>>>>> Charles Schumer - November 23, 1950
>>>>> Barbara Boxer - November 11, 1940
>>>>>
>>>>> So clearly since this bunch doesn't qualify, there must be OTHER
>>>>> aliens
>>>>> wandering around, perhaps in positions of power...
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> DJ wrote:
>>>>>> Many will recall that on July 8, 1947, witnesses claimed that an
>>>>>> unidentified object with five aliens aboard crashed onto a sheep
>>>>>> ranch just outside Roswell, New Mexico.
>>>>>> This is a well-known incident that many say has long been covered
>>>>>> up by the U.S. Air Force and the federal government.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However, you may NOT know that in the month of March 1948, exactly
>>>>>> nine months after that historic day, Albert Arnold Gore, Jr.,
>>>>>> Hillary Rodham, John F. Kerry, William Jefferson Clinton, Ted
>>>>>> Kennedy,
>>>>>> Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi, Dianne Feinstein, Charles E. Schumer, and
>>>>>> Barbara Boxer were born.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hmmmmm..........what a great piece of information.
>>
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| Re: OK the. Now I get it. [message #78753 is a reply to message #78744] |
Sun, 21 January 2007 12:01 |
Jamie K
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DJ wrote:
> I just get this feeling that the Lemming gene is spliced into the party DNA
> somewhere...........
I hear you. Unquestioning following is a problem. We've been over the
cliff with both major parties.
Most recently with the abdication of oversight responsibilities by the
last congress, Republican controlled in that case.
Did you know the biggest "party" in Colorado, based on voter
registration, is independents?
Good sign.
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:45b26b5a@linux...
>> Whoever created any group that can "accept without much questioning" is
>> probably an insecure moron or clever dictator wannabe.
>>
>> They say Democrats are tougher to herd. Probably a good thing.
>>
>> Independents can't even be rounded up. More pesky questioning than you can
>> shake a dittohead at.
>>
>> Maybe that's why Rove likes to keep public appearances of his guy closed
>> to the actual public.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>>
>> DJ wrote:
>>> ROTFL!!!.........and so who created democrats???.....Jimmy Durante?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:m3t3r2da0h3gkh2qmpuh8s9frp5no60p54@4ax.com...
>>>> that's why god created republicans...;o)
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 15:46:11 -0700, "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> ........heheheh!!!!!!!!!...........funny how it is easy to accept it
>>>>> without
>>>>> much questioning though, isn't it?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:45b1438a$1@linux...
>>>>>> Heh. Why am I not surprised that Frank Luntz is involved?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_roswell_democrats.h tm
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyway, bdays listed there:
>>>>>> Hillary Clinton: October 26, 1947
>>>>>> John Kerry: December 11, 1943
>>>>>> Bill Clinton - August 19, 1946
>>>>>> Howard Dean - November 17, 1948
>>>>>> Nancy Pelosi - March 26, 1940
>>>>>> Dianne Feinstein - June 22, 1933
>>>>>> Charles Schumer - November 23, 1950
>>>>>> Barbara Boxer - November 11, 1940
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So clearly since this bunch doesn't qualify, there must be OTHER
>>>>>> aliens
>>>>>> wandering around, perhaps in positions of power...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> DJ wrote:
>>>>>>> Many will recall that on July 8, 1947, witnesses claimed that an
>>>>>>> unidentified object with five aliens aboard crashed onto a sheep
>>>>>>> ranch just outside Roswell, New Mexico.
>>>>>>> This is a well-known incident that many say has long been covered
>>>>>>> up by the U.S. Air Force and the federal government.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> However, you may NOT know that in the month of March 1948, exactly
>>>>>>> nine months after that historic day, Albert Arnold Gore, Jr.,
>>>>>>> Hillary Rodham, John F. Kerry, William Jefferson Clinton, Ted
>>>>>>> Kennedy,
>>>>>>> Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi, Dianne Feinstein, Charles E. Schumer, and
>>>>>>> Barbara Boxer were born.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hmmmmm..........what a great piece of information.
>
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| Re: OK the. Now I get it. [message #78762 is a reply to message #78753] |
Sun, 21 January 2007 17:25 |
Deej [4]
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I'm not talking about unquestioned anything. I'm talking about common sense.
Many liberal Democrats:
1. believe we are not in a war.............or
2. believe we are in a war we can't win.......and/or
3. believe that it's OK to divulge war strategy to our enemies in the name
of freedom of speech.........and/or
4. don't realize that if we lose this war, their freedom of speech and
basically every other liberal cause that is dear to them will be toast and
they will be the first to be slaughtered by those that they currently
unwittingly (or willingly, for political purposes) aid and abet.
More and more weasel'esque Republicans are starting to echo this in order to
save their political arsses. The bottom line is that to win a fight, you
need to be unified and you need to go to any lengths to get it over with
quickly. This current situation in Iraq would have never happened if Clinton
hadn't lived by the polls and not let an existing war drag on for 10 years
and it's highly likely, IMHO, that things would be very different today if,
subsequent to the disclosure of the perfidious behaviour of our "allies"
that this country had united even further and realized that the threat we
face is not just from the Islamic fundamentalists, but from the gutless
behaviour of their own socialist/liberal role models worldwide. Our enemies,
having been presented with with a historic precedent, have been encouraged
to fight on because history has proven to them (and in doing so, Bin Ladin
has been validated) that all they need to do is to hang on until we lose our
will to fight and therefore defeat ourselves.
.........thus, the lemming analogy.
;o)
"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:45b3c6ff@linux...
>
> DJ wrote:
>> I just get this feeling that the Lemming gene is spliced into the party
>> DNA somewhere...........
>
> I hear you. Unquestioning following is a problem. We've been over the
> cliff with both major parties.
>
> Most recently with the abdication of oversight responsibilities by the
> last congress, Republican controlled in that case.
>
> Did you know the biggest "party" in Colorado, based on voter registration,
> is independents?
>
> Good sign.
>
> Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
>
>
>> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:45b26b5a@linux...
>>> Whoever created any group that can "accept without much questioning" is
>>> probably an insecure moron or clever dictator wannabe.
>>>
>>> They say Democrats are tougher to herd. Probably a good thing.
>>>
>>> Independents can't even be rounded up. More pesky questioning than you
>>> can shake a dittohead at.
>>>
>>> Maybe that's why Rove likes to keep public appearances of his guy closed
>>> to the actual public.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> -Jamie
>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> DJ wrote:
>>>> ROTFL!!!.........and so who created democrats???.....Jimmy Durante?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:m3t3r2da0h3gkh2qmpuh8s9frp5no60p54@4ax.com...
>>>>> that's why god created republicans...;o)
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 15:46:11 -0700, "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> ........heheheh!!!!!!!!!...........funny how it is easy to accept it
>>>>>> without
>>>>>> much questioning though, isn't it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:45b1438a$1@linux...
>>>>>>> Heh. Why am I not surprised that Frank Luntz is involved?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_roswell_democrats.h tm
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyway, bdays listed there:
>>>>>>> Hillary Clinton: October 26, 1947
>>>>>>> John Kerry: December 11, 1943
>>>>>>> Bill Clinton - August 19, 1946
>>>>>>> Howard Dean - November 17, 1948
>>>>>>> Nancy Pelosi - March 26, 1940
>>>>>>> Dianne Feinstein - June 22, 1933
>>>>>>> Charles Schumer - November 23, 1950
>>>>>>> Barbara Boxer - November 11, 1940
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So clearly since this bunch doesn't qualify, there must be OTHER
>>>>>>> aliens
>>>>>>> wandering around, perhaps in positions of power...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> DJ wrote:
>>>>>>>> Many will recall that on July 8, 1947, witnesses claimed that an
>>>>>>>> unidentified object with five aliens aboard crashed onto a sheep
>>>>>>>> ranch just outside Roswell, New Mexico.
>>>>>>>> This is a well-known incident that many say has long been covered
>>>>>>>> up by the U.S. Air Force and the federal government.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> However, you may NOT know that in the month of March 1948, exactly
>>>>>>>> nine months after that historic day, Albert Arnold Gore, Jr.,
>>>>>>>> Hillary Rodham, John F. Kerry, William Jefferson Clinton, Ted
>>>>>>>> Kennedy,
>>>>>>>> Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi, Dianne Feinstein, Charles E. Schumer,
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> Barbara Boxer were born.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hmmmmm..........what a great piece of information.
>>
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| Re: OK the. Now I get it. [message #78767 is a reply to message #78762] |
Sun, 21 January 2007 20:55 |
gene lennon
Messages: 565
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"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>I'm not talking about unquestioned anything. I'm talking about common sense.
>
>Many liberal Democrats:
>
>1. believe we are not in a war.............or
>2. believe we are in a war we can't win.......and/or
>3. believe that it's OK to divulge war strategy to our enemies in the name
>of freedom of speech.........and/or
>4. don't realize that if we lose this war, their freedom of speech and
>basically every other liberal cause that is dear to them will be toast and
>they will be the first to be slaughtered by those that they currently
>unwittingly (or willingly, for political purposes) aid and abet.
>
>More and more weasel'esque Republicans are starting to echo this in order
to
>save their political arsses. The bottom line is that to win a fight, you
>need to be unified and you need to go to any lengths to get it over with
>quickly. This current situation in Iraq would have never happened if Clinton
>hadn't lived by the polls and not let an existing war drag on for 10 years
>and it's highly likely, IMHO, that things would be very different today
if,
>subsequent to the disclosure of the perfidious behaviour of our "allies"
>that this country had united even further and realized that the threat we
>face is not just from the Islamic fundamentalists, but from the gutless
>behaviour of their own socialist/liberal role models worldwide. Our enemies,
>having been presented with with a historic precedent, have been encouraged
>to fight on because history has proven to them (and in doing so, Bin Ladin
>has been validated) that all they need to do is to hang on until we lose
our
>will to fight and therefore defeat ourselves.
>
>........thus, the lemming analogy.
>
>;o)
>
>
"I'm talking about common sense."
I’m speechless.
Tell me again how Clinton is responsible for the war in Iraq.
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| Re: OK the. Now I get it. [message #78770 is a reply to message #78762] |
Sun, 21 January 2007 20:47 |
Jamie K
Messages: 1115
Registered: July 2006
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Senior Member |
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Heh, gotcha. You're talking about them thar UNPATRIOTIC fools who won't
give up their personal liberties to fall lock step behind the, er, head
fool, eh? :^)
I dunno, that sort of blatant spin isn't working as well these days.
We're down to around 25% or so who think Bush, Cheney and Rumsfield are
geniuses, or are at least taking enough of Scaife's money to say so.
For anyone in that boat, I recommend constant listening to talk radio
windbags and cable blather so you can be reinforced in the comforting
ability to blame everyone else for the problems. Especially anyone who
values civil liberties or social responsibility, or who think there
might be human beings who are Islamic. Commies! Liberals! Freaks!
In the Scaife bunch, the buck stops with anyone who disagrees with the
neocon con job. The rare time the buck stops with the Whitehouse is
usually in a sentence that includes the word "Clinton." Very convenient
but inadequate.
Sure there are a few facts in there to spice things up, but overall that
telling of the story is as full of fantasy as any joke with Democrats
and flying saucers.
It's our right as Americans to have those misguided notions. Meanwhile
I'll feel free to disagree with both the current administration where
they fail to think things through, and with anyone who thinks I don't
have the right to see that they are, by and large, leading my country
down the wrong path and over a cliff.
Not to defend the Democrats or anything because there is plenty of blame
to go around with administrations in both parties back at least to the
early part of the century. But especially with the administration we
have now.
BTW, here's some provocative free speech that may annoy you, although a
few entries might amuse you. Remember, it's probably a joke:
http://buffalobeast.com/113/50_most_loathsome_2006.htm
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
DJ wrote:
> I'm not talking about unquestioned anything. I'm talking about common sense.
>
> Many liberal Democrats:
>
> 1. believe we are not in a war.............or
> 2. believe we are in a war we can't win.......and/or
> 3. believe that it's OK to divulge war strategy to our enemies in the name
> of freedom of speech.........and/or
> 4. don't realize that if we lose this war, their freedom of speech and
> basically every other liberal cause that is dear to them will be toast and
> they will be the first to be slaughtered by those that they currently
> unwittingly (or willingly, for political purposes) aid and abet.
>
> More and more weasel'esque Republicans are starting to echo this in order to
> save their political arsses. The bottom line is that to win a fight, you
> need to be unified and you need to go to any lengths to get it over with
> quickly. This current situation in Iraq would have never happened if Clinton
> hadn't lived by the polls and not let an existing war drag on for 10 years
> and it's highly likely, IMHO, that things would be very different today if,
> subsequent to the disclosure of the perfidious behaviour of our "allies"
> that this country had united even further and realized that the threat we
> face is not just from the Islamic fundamentalists, but from the gutless
> behaviour of their own socialist/liberal role models worldwide. Our enemies,
> having been presented with with a historic precedent, have been encouraged
> to fight on because history has proven to them (and in doing so, Bin Ladin
> has been validated) that all they need to do is to hang on until we lose our
> will to fight and therefore defeat ourselves.
>
> ........thus, the lemming analogy.
>
> ;o)
>
>
> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:45b3c6ff@linux...
>> DJ wrote:
>>> I just get this feeling that the Lemming gene is spliced into the party
>>> DNA somewhere...........
>> I hear you. Unquestioning following is a problem. We've been over the
>> cliff with both major parties.
>>
>> Most recently with the abdication of oversight responsibilities by the
>> last congress, Republican controlled in that case.
>>
>> Did you know the biggest "party" in Colorado, based on voter registration,
>> is independents?
>>
>> Good sign.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:45b26b5a@linux...
>>>> Whoever created any group that can "accept without much questioning" is
>>>> probably an insecure moron or clever dictator wannabe.
>>>>
>>>> They say Democrats are tougher to herd. Probably a good thing.
>>>>
>>>> Independents can't even be rounded up. More pesky questioning than you
>>>> can shake a dittohead at.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe that's why Rove likes to keep public appearances of his guy closed
>>>> to the actual public.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> -Jamie
>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> DJ wrote:
>>>>> ROTFL!!!.........and so who created democrats???.....Jimmy Durante?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:m3t3r2da0h3gkh2qmpuh8s9frp5no60p54@4ax.com...
>>>>>> that's why god created republicans...;o)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 15:46:11 -0700, "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ........heheheh!!!!!!!!!...........funny how it is easy to accept it
>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>> much questioning though, isn't it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:45b1438a$1@linux...
>>>>>>>> Heh. Why am I not surprised that Frank Luntz is involved?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_roswell_democrats.h tm
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Anyway, bdays listed there:
>>>>>>>> Hillary Clinton: October 26, 1947
>>>>>>>> John Kerry: December 11, 1943
>>>>>>>> Bill Clinton - August 19, 1946
>>>>>>>> Howard Dean - November 17, 1948
>>>>>>>> Nancy Pelosi - March 26, 1940
>>>>>>>> Dianne Feinstein - June 22, 1933
>>>>>>>> Charles Schumer - November 23, 1950
>>>>>>>> Barbara Boxer - November 11, 1940
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So clearly since this bunch doesn't qualify, there must be OTHER
>>>>>>>> aliens
>>>>>>>> wandering around, perhaps in positions of power...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> DJ wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Many will recall that on July 8, 1947, witnesses claimed that an
>>>>>>>>> unidentified object with five aliens aboard crashed onto a sheep
>>>>>>>>> ranch just outside Roswell, New Mexico.
>>>>>>>>> This is a well-known incident that many say has long been covered
>>>>>>>>> up by the U.S. Air Force and the federal government.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> However, you may NOT know that in the month of March 1948, exactly
>>>>>>>>> nine months after that historic day, Albert Arnold Gore, Jr.,
>>>>>>>>> Hillary Rodham, John F. Kerry, William Jefferson Clinton, Ted
>>>>>>>>> Kennedy,
>>>>>>>>> Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi, Dianne Feinstein, Charles E. Schumer,
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> Barbara Boxer were born.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hmmmmm..........what a great piece of information.
>
>
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| Re: OK the. Now I get it. [message #78784 is a reply to message #78771] |
Mon, 22 January 2007 01:39 |
erlilo
Messages: 405
Registered: June 2005
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Senior Member |
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Good to see some historical facts about where the real problems in Iraq are
coming from.
But how can anyone learn anything about these facts when most of us don't
know anything about them at all?
For me, it is the big $££$ that's making the rules about "our freedom in the
world". We're all being manipulated to have big dollars in our eyes in "the
name of freedom", what ever it costs for "our free world". Great
weaponmuscles have nothing to do with great intelligence and used in "the
name of God", as far as I can understand with my "stupid" head, far away
from America....
Erling
"Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> skrev i melding
news:45b44c0f$1@linux...
>
> "Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
>>
>>I'm speechless.
>>Tell me again how Clinton is responsible for the war in Iraq.
>>
>
>
> I'm certain that Clinton is the primary reason for the chaos in Iraq, but
> here are a few extenuating circumstances.
>
>
> 200 years of tribal warring.
>
> Sykes-Picot Agreement.
>
> The British Land Settlement Act.
>
> T. E. Lawrence's role in securing Emir Faisal as monarch.
>
> ****After the 1927 discovery of oil in Kirkuk, bigger players became
> interested.
>
> Rashid Ali al-Kaylani prime minister of Iraq who was collaborating with
> the
> German Nazis (check the history of the Harriman Bank and you will find an
> interesting link between Prescott Bush and Rashid Ali al-Kaylani.)
>
> Joining the Arab League.
>
> The Baghdad Pact in 1956 with the USA.
>
> The Iraq Petroleum Company (a British company) taking 90% of the oil
> profits
> from the Iraq people.
>
> Moscow's intervention in the early 70s (That made the USA real happy).
>
> In 1979 Saddam took control.. That did make us happy since we were mad at
> Iran and Saddam hated Iran.
>
> Mass chemical weapons attack on the city of Halabja in March 1988,
> followed
> by increased trade and arms shipments from the USA. The UK awarded £400
> million
> in trade credits to Iraq ten days after condemning the massacre. The vast
> majority of UK trade credits were used to purchase more arms.
>
> 1970s, Iraq purchased a French nuclear reactor. The US grumbled a little
> but major US players were entrenched in the Iraq nuclear deal. The French
> owned firm Areva NP acquired most of its technology and patents from
> Babcock
> and Wilcox's, Westinghouse and GE (All US firms).
>
> "Desert Storm" followed by a US trade embargo, including no food or
> medicine.
>
> The first and second Bush administration!!
>
>
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| Re: OK the. Now I get it. [message #78802 is a reply to message #78770] |
Mon, 22 January 2007 08:18 |
Deej [4]
Messages: 1292
Registered: January 2007
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Senior Member |
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It's a busy mornin. I'll get back to you guys.
;o)
"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:45b44238@linux...
>
> Heh, gotcha. You're talking about them thar UNPATRIOTIC fools who won't
> give up their personal liberties to fall lock step behind the, er, head
> fool, eh? :^)
>
> I dunno, that sort of blatant spin isn't working as well these days. We're
> down to around 25% or so who think Bush, Cheney and Rumsfield are
> geniuses, or are at least taking enough of Scaife's money to say so.
>
> For anyone in that boat, I recommend constant listening to talk radio
> windbags and cable blather so you can be reinforced in the comforting
> ability to blame everyone else for the problems. Especially anyone who
> values civil liberties or social responsibility, or who think there might
> be human beings who are Islamic. Commies! Liberals! Freaks!
>
> In the Scaife bunch, the buck stops with anyone who disagrees with the
> neocon con job. The rare time the buck stops with the Whitehouse is
> usually in a sentence that includes the word "Clinton." Very convenient
> but inadequate.
>
> Sure there are a few facts in there to spice things up, but overall that
> telling of the story is as full of fantasy as any joke with Democrats and
> flying saucers.
>
> It's our right as Americans to have those misguided notions. Meanwhile
> I'll feel free to disagree with both the current administration where they
> fail to think things through, and with anyone who thinks I don't have the
> right to see that they are, by and large, leading my country down the
> wrong path and over a cliff.
>
> Not to defend the Democrats or anything because there is plenty of blame
> to go around with administrations in both parties back at least to the
> early part of the century. But especially with the administration we have
> now.
>
> BTW, here's some provocative free speech that may annoy you, although a
> few entries might amuse you. Remember, it's probably a joke:
>
> http://buffalobeast.com/113/50_most_loathsome_2006.htm
>
> Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
> DJ wrote:
>> I'm not talking about unquestioned anything. I'm talking about common
>> sense.
>>
>> Many liberal Democrats:
>>
>> 1. believe we are not in a war.............or
>> 2. believe we are in a war we can't win.......and/or
>> 3. believe that it's OK to divulge war strategy to our enemies in the
>> name of freedom of speech.........and/or
>> 4. don't realize that if we lose this war, their freedom of speech and
>> basically every other liberal cause that is dear to them will be toast
>> and they will be the first to be slaughtered by those that they currently
>> unwittingly (or willingly, for political purposes) aid and abet.
>>
>> More and more weasel'esque Republicans are starting to echo this in order
>> to save their political arsses. The bottom line is that to win a fight,
>> you need to be unified and you need to go to any lengths to get it over
>> with quickly. This current situation in Iraq would have never happened if
>> Clinton hadn't lived by the polls and not let an existing war drag on
>> for 10 years and it's highly likely, IMHO, that things would be very
>> different today if, subsequent to the disclosure of the perfidious
>> behaviour of our "allies" that this country had united even further and
>> realized that the threat we face is not just from the Islamic
>> fundamentalists, but from the gutless behaviour of their own
>> socialist/liberal role models worldwide. Our enemies, having been
>> presented with with a historic precedent, have been encouraged to fight
>> on because history has proven to them (and in doing so, Bin Ladin has
>> been validated) that all they need to do is to hang on until we lose our
>> will to fight and therefore defeat ourselves.
>>
>> ........thus, the lemming analogy.
>>
>> ;o)
>>
>>
>> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:45b3c6ff@linux...
>>> DJ wrote:
>>>> I just get this feeling that the Lemming gene is spliced into the party
>>>> DNA somewhere...........
>>> I hear you. Unquestioning following is a problem. We've been over the
>>> cliff with both major parties.
>>>
>>> Most recently with the abdication of oversight responsibilities by the
>>> last congress, Republican controlled in that case.
>>>
>>> Did you know the biggest "party" in Colorado, based on voter
>>> registration, is independents?
>>>
>>> Good sign.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> -Jamie
>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:45b26b5a@linux...
>>>>> Whoever created any group that can "accept without much questioning"
>>>>> is probably an insecure moron or clever dictator wannabe.
>>>>>
>>>>> They say Democrats are tougher to herd. Probably a good thing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Independents can't even be rounded up. More pesky questioning than you
>>>>> can shake a dittohead at.
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe that's why Rove likes to keep public appearances of his guy
>>>>> closed to the actual public.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> DJ wrote:
>>>>>> ROTFL!!!.........and so who created democrats???.....Jimmy Durante?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:m3t3r2da0h3gkh2qmpuh8s9frp5no60p54@4ax.com...
>>>>>>> that's why god created republicans...;o)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 15:46:11 -0700, "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ........heheheh!!!!!!!!!...........funny how it is easy to accept
>>>>>>>> it without
>>>>>>>> much questioning though, isn't it?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:45b1438a$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>> Heh. Why am I not surprised that Frank Luntz is involved?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_roswell_democrats.h tm
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Anyway, bdays listed there:
>>>>>>>>> Hillary Clinton: October 26, 1947
>>>>>>>>> John Kerry: December 11, 1943
>>>>>>>>> Bill Clinton - August 19, 1946
>>>>>>>>> Howard Dean - November 17, 1948
>>>>>>>>> Nancy Pelosi - March 26, 1940
>>>>>>>>> Dianne Feinstein - June 22, 1933
>>>>>>>>> Charles Schumer - November 23, 1950
>>>>>>>>> Barbara Boxer - November 11, 1940
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So clearly since this bunch doesn't qualify, there must be OTHER
>>>>>>>>> aliens
>>>>>>>>> wandering around, perhaps in positions of power...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> DJ wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Many will recall that on July 8, 1947, witnesses claimed that an
>>>>>>>>>> unidentified object with five aliens aboard crashed onto a sheep
>>>>>>>>>> ranch just outside Roswell, New Mexico.
>>>>>>>>>> This is a well-known incident that many say has long been covered
>>>>>>>>>> up by the U.S. Air Force and the federal government.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> However, you may NOT know that in the month of March 1948,
>>>>>>>>>> exactly
>>>>>>>>>> nine months after that historic day, Albert Arnold Gore, Jr.,
>>>>>>>>>> Hillary Rodham, John F. Kerry, William Jefferson Clinton, Ted
>>>>>>>>>> Kennedy,
>>>>>>>>>> Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi, Dianne Feinstein, Charles E. Schumer,
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> Barbara Boxer were born.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hmmmmm..........what a great piece of information.
>>
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| Re: OK the. Now I get it. [message #78803 is a reply to message #78771] |
Mon, 22 January 2007 08:22 |
duncan
Messages: 123
Registered: November 2006
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Senior Member |
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But almost all of these things took place within Bill Clinton's
lifetime, right? Can you prove that he wasn't somehow pulling strings
all along? From down there in Hope, Arkansas?
-- skeptical in CA (chas.)
On 22 Jan 2007 16:30:55 +1000, "Gene Lennon"
<glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
>
>"Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
>>
>>I’m speechless.
>>Tell me again how Clinton is responsible for the war in Iraq.
>>
>
>
>I’m certain that Clinton is the primary reason for the chaos in Iraq, but
>here are a few extenuating circumstances.
>
>
>200 years of tribal warring.
>
>Sykes-Picot Agreement.
>
>The British Land Settlement Act.
>
>T. E. Lawrence’s role in securing Emir Faisal as monarch.
>
>****After the 1927 discovery of oil in Kirkuk, bigger players became interested…
>
>Rashid Ali al-Kaylani prime minister of Iraq who was collaborating with the
>German Nazis (check the history of the Harriman Bank and you will find an
>interesting link between Prescott Bush and Rashid Ali al-Kaylani.)
>
>Joining the Arab League.
>
>The Baghdad Pact in 1956 with the USA.
>
>The Iraq Petroleum Company (a British company) taking 90% of the oil profits
>from the Iraq people.
>
>Moscow’s intervention in the early 70s (That made the USA real happy).
>
>In 1979 Saddam took control.. That did make us happy since we were mad at
>Iran and Saddam hated Iran.
>
>Mass chemical weapons attack on the city of Halabja in March 1988, followed
>by increased trade and arms shipments from the USA. The UK awarded £400 million
>in trade credits to Iraq ten days after condemning the massacre. The vast
>majority of UK trade credits were used to purchase more arms.
>
>1970s, Iraq purchased a French nuclear reactor. The US grumbled a little
>but major US players were entrenched in the Iraq nuclear deal. The French
>owned firm Areva NP acquired most of its technology and patents from Babcock
>and Wilcox's, Westinghouse and GE (All US firms).
>
>"Desert Storm" followed by a US trade embargo, including no food or medicine.
>
>The first and second Bush administration!!
>
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| Re: OK the. Now I get it. [message #78844 is a reply to message #78802] |
Mon, 22 January 2007 17:08 |
Deej [4]
Messages: 1292
Registered: January 2007
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Senior Member |
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Well....I've read both your posts and I don't really disagree with either
one of you in principle. However, I don't see any refutation at all or
addressing my of my points. Indecisiveness and division in time of war is a
disaster and, IMHO, is the reason this has dragged on for so long. It's more
like you don't believe the points are valid and this goes to the heart of
what I've been talking about all along. I guess we'll see. I hope I'm wrong
actually. I have no dog in the *being right( fight. I do have a big dog in
the fight that may come down to the disentigration of this nation and I know
I'm not going to change your mind about that nor you mine. As far as Gene's
historical analysis is concerned, I'm aware of the history and don't dispute
this at all, or the many many mistakes. I think that
indecisiveness/divisiveness at such a critical time is yet another a huge
mistake and sends the *same as it ever was* message. It may be too late now
though.
Deej
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:45b4e40d@linux...
> It's a busy mornin. I'll get back to you guys.
>
> ;o)
>
> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:45b44238@linux...
>>
>> Heh, gotcha. You're talking about them thar UNPATRIOTIC fools who won't
>> give up their personal liberties to fall lock step behind the, er, head
>> fool, eh? :^)
>>
>> I dunno, that sort of blatant spin isn't working as well these days.
>> We're down to around 25% or so who think Bush, Cheney and Rumsfield are
>> geniuses, or are at least taking enough of Scaife's money to say so.
>>
>> For anyone in that boat, I recommend constant listening to talk radio
>> windbags and cable blather so you can be reinforced in the comforting
>> ability to blame everyone else for the problems. Especially anyone who
>> values civil liberties or social responsibility, or who think there might
>> be human beings who are Islamic. Commies! Liberals! Freaks!
>>
>> In the Scaife bunch, the buck stops with anyone who disagrees with the
>> neocon con job. The rare time the buck stops with the Whitehouse is
>> usually in a sentence that includes the word "Clinton." Very convenient
>> but inadequate.
>>
>> Sure there are a few facts in there to spice things up, but overall that
>> telling of the story is as full of fantasy as any joke with Democrats and
>> flying saucers.
>>
>> It's our right as Americans to have those misguided notions. Meanwhile
>> I'll feel free to disagree with both the current administration where
>> they fail to think things through, and with anyone who thinks I don't
>> have the right to see that they are, by and large, leading my country
>> down the wrong path and over a cliff.
>>
>> Not to defend the Democrats or anything because there is plenty of blame
>> to go around with administrations in both parties back at least to the
>> early part of the century. But especially with the administration we have
>> now.
>>
>> BTW, here's some provocative free speech that may annoy you, although a
>> few entries might amuse you. Remember, it's probably a joke:
>>
>> http://buffalobeast.com/113/50_most_loathsome_2006.htm
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>> DJ wrote:
>>> I'm not talking about unquestioned anything. I'm talking about common
>>> sense.
>>>
>>> Many liberal Democrats:
>>>
>>> 1. believe we are not in a war.............or
>>> 2. believe we are in a war we can't win.......and/or
>>> 3. believe that it's OK to divulge war strategy to our enemies in the
>>> name of freedom of speech.........and/or
>>> 4. don't realize that if we lose this war, their freedom of speech and
>>> basically every other liberal cause that is dear to them will be toast
>>> and they will be the first to be slaughtered by those that they
>>> currently unwittingly (or willingly, for political purposes) aid and
>>> abet.
>>>
>>> More and more weasel'esque Republicans are starting to echo this in
>>> order to save their political arsses. The bottom line is that to win a
>>> fight, you need to be unified and you need to go to any lengths to get
>>> it over with quickly. This current situation in Iraq would have never
>>> happened if Clinton hadn't lived by the polls and not let an existing
>>> war drag on for 10 years and it's highly likely, IMHO, that things would
>>> be very different today if, subsequent to the disclosure of the
>>> perfidious behaviour of our "allies" that this country had united even
>>> further and realized that the threat we face is not just from the
>>> Islamic fundamentalists, but from the gutless behaviour of their own
>>> socialist/liberal role models worldwide. Our enemies, having been
>>> presented with with a historic precedent, have been encouraged to fight
>>> on because history has proven to them (and in doing so, Bin Ladin has
>>> been validated) that all they need to do is to hang on until we lose our
>>> will to fight and therefore defeat ourselves.
>>>
>>> ........thus, the lemming analogy.
>>>
>>> ;o)
>>>
>>>
>>> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:45b3c6ff@linux...
>>>> DJ wrote:
>>>>> I just get this feeling that the Lemming gene is spliced into the
>>>>> party DNA somewhere...........
>>>> I hear you. Unquestioning following is a problem. We've been over the
>>>> cliff with both major parties.
>>>>
>>>> Most recently with the abdication of oversight responsibilities by the
>>>> last congress, Republican controlled in that case.
>>>>
>>>> Did you know the biggest "party" in Colorado, based on voter
>>>> registration, is independents?
>>>>
>>>> Good sign.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> -Jamie
>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:45b26b5a@linux...
>>>>>> Whoever created any group that can "accept without much questioning"
>>>>>> is probably an insecure moron or clever dictator wannabe.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They say Democrats are tougher to herd. Probably a good thing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Independents can't even be rounded up. More pesky questioning than
>>>>>> you can shake a dittohead at.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe that's why Rove likes to keep public appearances of his guy
>>>>>> closed to the actual public.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> DJ wrote:
>>>>>>> ROTFL!!!.........and so who created democrats???.....Jimmy Durante?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:m3t3r2da0h3gkh2qmpuh8s9frp5no60p54@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>> that's why god created republicans...;o)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 15:46:11 -0700, "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ........heheheh!!!!!!!!!...........funny how it is easy to accept
>>>>>>>>> it without
>>>>>>>>> much questioning though, isn't it?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:45b1438a$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>>> Heh. Why am I not surprised that Frank Luntz is involved?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_roswell_democrats.h tm
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Anyway, bdays listed there:
>>>>>>>>>> Hillary Clinton: October 26, 1947
>>>>>>>>>> John Kerry: December 11, 1943
>>>>>>>>>> Bill Clinton - August 19, 1946
>>>>>>>>>> Howard Dean - November 17, 1948
>>>>>>>>>> Nancy Pelosi - March 26, 1940
>>>>>>>>>> Dianne Feinstein - June 22, 1933
>>>>>>>>>> Charles Schumer - November 23, 1950
>>>>>>>>>> Barbara Boxer - November 11, 1940
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So clearly since this bunch doesn't qualify, there must be OTHER
>>>>>>>>>> aliens
>>>>>>>>>> wandering around, perhaps in positions of power...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>>>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> DJ wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Many will recall that on July 8, 1947, witnesses claimed that an
>>>>>>>>>>> unidentified object with five aliens aboard crashed onto a sheep
>>>>>>>>>>> ranch just outside Roswell, New Mexico.
>>>>>>>>>>> This is a well-known incident that many say has long been
>>>>>>>>>>> covered
>>>>>>>>>>> up by the U.S. Air Force and the federal government.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> However, you may NOT know that in the month of March 1948,
>>>>>>>>>>> exactly
>>>>>>>>>>> nine months after that historic day, Albert Arnold Gore, Jr.,
>>>>>>>>>>> Hillary Rodham, John F. Kerry, William Jefferson Clinton, Ted
>>>>>>>>>>> Kennedy,
>>>>>>>>>>> Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi, Dianne Feinstein, Charles E. Schumer,
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> Barbara Boxer were born.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hmmmmm..........what a great piece of information.
>>>
>
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| Re: OK the. Now I get it. [message #78856 is a reply to message #78844] |
Mon, 22 January 2007 20:14 |
Jamie K
Messages: 1115
Registered: July 2006
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Fair enough. Blame is all well and good, but in the end we need to come
out of this together and OK.
How we do that is a matter of some disagreement. There's no magical way
to make the uncertainty go away, to remove the divisiveness we've come
to as a nation, other than for people to vote for the representatives
they feel will do the right thing, and to make their opinions known to
their representatives. That's our system.
In the last election, the electorate made it pretty clear that the
leadership has gone down the wrong path and it's time to rethink our
goals, priorities, strategies and implementations.
Having the conversations to figure out how do so is the patriotic way,
by our standards. To avoid those conversations in some fake show of
unity would be foolish. And to live by anyone else's standards would be
a betrayal of the sacrifices that helped make us who we are.
Democracy is noisy. Our dirty laundry will get aired and we will move on.
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
DJ wrote:
> Well....I've read both your posts and I don't really disagree with either
> one of you in principle. However, I don't see any refutation at all or
> addressing my of my points. Indecisiveness and division in time of war is a
> disaster and, IMHO, is the reason this has dragged on for so long. It's more
> like you don't believe the points are valid and this goes to the heart of
> what I've been talking about all along. I guess we'll see. I hope I'm wrong
> actually. I have no dog in the *being right( fight. I do have a big dog in
> the fight that may come down to the disentigration of this nation and I know
> I'm not going to change your mind about that nor you mine. As far as Gene's
> historical analysis is concerned, I'm aware of the history and don't dispute
> this at all, or the many many mistakes. I think that
> indecisiveness/divisiveness at such a critical time is yet another a huge
> mistake and sends the *same as it ever was* message. It may be too late now
> though.
>
> Deej
>
>
>
> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:45b4e40d@linux...
>> It's a busy mornin. I'll get back to you guys.
>>
>> ;o)
>>
>> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:45b44238@linux...
>>> Heh, gotcha. You're talking about them thar UNPATRIOTIC fools who won't
>>> give up their personal liberties to fall lock step behind the, er, head
>>> fool, eh? :^)
>>>
>>> I dunno, that sort of blatant spin isn't working as well these days.
>>> We're down to around 25% or so who think Bush, Cheney and Rumsfield are
>>> geniuses, or are at least taking enough of Scaife's money to say so.
>>>
>>> For anyone in that boat, I recommend constant listening to talk radio
>>> windbags and cable blather so you can be reinforced in the comforting
>>> ability to blame everyone else for the problems. Especially anyone who
>>> values civil liberties or social responsibility, or who think there might
>>> be human beings who are Islamic. Commies! Liberals! Freaks!
>>>
>>> In the Scaife bunch, the buck stops with anyone who disagrees with the
>>> neocon con job. The rare time the buck stops with the Whitehouse is
>>> usually in a sentence that includes the word "Clinton." Very convenient
>>> but inadequate.
>>>
>>> Sure there are a few facts in there to spice things up, but overall that
>>> telling of the story is as full of fantasy as any joke with Democrats and
>>> flying saucers.
>>>
>>> It's our right as Americans to have those misguided notions. Meanwhile
>>> I'll feel free to disagree with both the current administration where
>>> they fail to think things through, and with anyone who thinks I don't
>>> have the right to see that they are, by and large, leading my country
>>> down the wrong path and over a cliff.
>>>
>>> Not to defend the Democrats or anything because there is plenty of blame
>>> to go around with administrations in both parties back at least to the
>>> early part of the century. But especially with the administration we have
>>> now.
>>>
>>> BTW, here's some provocative free speech that may annoy you, although a
>>> few entries might amuse you. Remember, it's probably a joke:
>>>
>>> http://buffalobeast.com/113/50_most_loathsome_2006.htm
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> -Jamie
>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>
>>>
>>> DJ wrote:
>>>> I'm not talking about unquestioned anything. I'm talking about common
>>>> sense.
>>>>
>>>> Many liberal Democrats:
>>>>
>>>> 1. believe we are not in a war.............or
>>>> 2. believe we are in a war we can't win.......and/or
>>>> 3. believe that it's OK to divulge war strategy to our enemies in the
>>>> name of freedom of speech.........and/or
>>>> 4. don't realize that if we lose this war, their freedom of speech and
>>>> basically every other liberal cause that is dear to them will be toast
>>>> and they will be the first to be slaughtered by those that they
>>>> currently unwittingly (or willingly, for political purposes) aid and
>>>> abet.
>>>>
>>>> More and more weasel'esque Republicans are starting to echo this in
>>>> order to save their political arsses. The bottom line is that to win a
>>>> fight, you need to be unified and you need to go to any lengths to get
>>>> it over with quickly. This current situation in Iraq would have never
>>>> happened if Clinton hadn't lived by the polls and not let an existing
>>>> war drag on for 10 years and it's highly likely, IMHO, that things would
>>>> be very different today if, subsequent to the disclosure of the
>>>> perfidious behaviour of our "allies" that this country had united even
>>>> further and realized that the threat we face is not just from the
>>>> Islamic fundamentalists, but from the gutless behaviour of their own
>>>> socialist/liberal role models worldwide. Our enemies, having been
>>>> presented with with a historic precedent, have been encouraged to fight
>>>> on because history has proven to them (and in doing so, Bin Ladin has
>>>> been validated) that all they need to do is to hang on until we lose our
>>>> will to fight and therefore defeat ourselves.
>>>>
>>>> ........thus, the lemming analogy.
>>>>
>>>> ;o)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:45b3c6ff@linux...
>>>>> DJ wrote:
>>>>>> I just get this feeling that the Lemming gene is spliced into the
>>>>>> party DNA somewhere...........
>>>>> I hear you. Unquestioning following is a problem. We've been over the
>>>>> cliff with both major parties.
>>>>>
>>>>> Most recently with the abdication of oversight responsibilities by the
>>>>> last congress, Republican controlled in that case.
>>>>>
>>>>> Did you know the biggest "party" in Colorado, based on voter
>>>>> registration, is independents?
>>>>>
>>>>> Good sign.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:45b26b5a@linux...
>>>>>>> Whoever created any group that can "accept without much questioning"
>>>>>>> is probably an insecure moron or clever dictator wannabe.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They say Democrats are tougher to herd. Probably a good thing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Independents can't even be rounded up. More pesky questioning than
>>>>>>> you can shake a dittohead at.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maybe that's why Rove likes to keep public appearances of his guy
>>>>>>> closed to the actual public.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> DJ wrote:
>>>>>>>> ROTFL!!!.........and so who created democrats???.....Jimmy Durante?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:m3t3r2da0h3gkh2qmpuh8s9frp5no60p54@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>>> that's why god created republicans...;o)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 15:46:11 -0700, "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ........heheheh!!!!!!!!!...........funny how it is easy to accept
>>>>>>>>>> it without
>>>>>>>>>> much questioning though, isn't it?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:45b1438a$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>> Heh. Why am I not surprised that Frank Luntz is involved?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_roswell_democrats.h tm
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway, bdays listed there:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hillary Clinton: October 26, 1947
>>>>>>>>>>> John Kerry: December 11, 1943
>>>>>>>>>>> Bill Clinton - August 19, 1946
>>>>>>>>>>> Howard Dean - November 17, 1948
>>>>>>>>>>> Nancy Pelosi - March 26, 1940
>>>>>>>>>>> Dianne Feinstein - June 22, 1933
>>>>>>>>>>> Charles Schumer - November 23, 1950
>>>>>>>>>>> Barbara Boxer - November 11, 1940
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So clearly since this bunch doesn't qualify, there must be OTHER
>>>>>>>>>>> aliens
>>>>>>>>>>> wandering around, perhaps in positions of power...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>>>>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> DJ wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Many will recall that on July 8, 1947, witnesses claimed that an
>>>>>>>>>>>> unidentified object with five aliens aboard crashed onto a sheep
>>>>>>>>>>>> ranch just outside Roswell, New Mexico.
>>>>>>>>>>>> This is a well-known incident that many say has long been
>>>>>>>>>>>> covered
>>>>>>>>>>>> up by the U.S. Air Force and the federal government.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> However, you may NOT know that in the month of March 1948,
>>>>>>>>>>>> exactly
>>>>>>>>>>>> nine months after that historic day, Albert Arnold Gore, Jr.,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hillary Rodham, John F. Kerry, William Jefferson Clinton, Ted
>>>>>>>>>>>> Kennedy,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi, Dianne Feinstein, Charles E. Schumer,
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> Barbara Boxer were born.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hmmmmm..........what a great piece of information.
>
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