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| Re: To RAID or not to RAID for PARIS... Now is the question!!! Please help! [message #61986 is a reply to message #61985] |
Thu, 29 December 2005 01:58   |
erlilo
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ng Apple computers, than there are using Apple iPods. That would make
>Apple, a computer company.
What exactly Apple is or isn't is purely subjective. I think they were a
visionary company a long time ago. I think they are still a superb consumer
electronics and design company, and nobody can managey hype like Steve Jobs.
They were first to market with a really superb product that will be emblematic
of the oncoming tidal wave of portable devices that will largely replace
the desktop computers that we use now. Then again, they were first to make
a home computer seem like a good (and chic) idea and they managed to parlay
that into . . . near bankruptcy. That's what I think Apple is.
I don't think they've been terribly visionary of late. One of the great ironies,
in my opinion, of the past few years in the computer racket is that IBM has
probably been the most vibrant, agile, and visionary company in the business.
Stodgy old IBM. They have been the most vocal proponent of free software
in the corporate world, and have put up real amounts of their own money to
go to court against spurious lawsuits (the SCO one mostly) that try to destroy
the integrity of free software. They have given mountains of code back to
the free software commu
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| Re: To RAID or not to RAID for PARIS... Now is the question!!! Please help! [message #61989 is a reply to message #61986] |
Thu, 29 December 2005 07:30 |
Kim
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s than fantastic on PPC processors. This
came in response to someone saying a 1.3 Ghz Celeron running OS X was out-benchmarking
much faster/more expensive G5s. I had heard similar things some time back
and investigated and found articles about how poorly multiple threads are
managed. Presented with the fact that, surprisingly considering how dense
I am, I was not peddling "urban legend" Jamie decided that OS X was good
enough for him. This has absolutely nothing to do with the argument and I
said so.
> Mac OSX is geared for personal computing, which in my opinion is the best
>OS for general, personal, and multi media computing. It's intuitive, user
>friendly, easy to use, and it's not a PITA to run and maintain like other
>systems! Apple made it easy on you, you don't have to hack it, or write
>your own software, but you can if you want. Maybe some day Yellow Dog/Linux
>will be able to keep up or surpass Mac OSX when it comes to A/V, multi media
>production, but not today. Mac OSX is much more usable, and user friendly
>for the majority of computer users than any other form of UNIX.
As something of a computer expert, my friends often ask me for help with
their computers. My deal with them is that I'll be a lot more willing to
help if they let me set it up right in the first place. Being the ravenous
MCSE certified Winows zealot you mentioned before, starting about a year
ago I would set up everything as a dual boot system, one GNU\linux (usually
Ubuntu) and one Windows. That's what Windows zealots do, you know. So far,
all but one (out of six or seven) have settled on Ubuntu as their preferred
platform. The one who didn't was a graphic designer so I wasn't surprised
that she needed a slew of Windows apps. Maybe if I had been a designer I
could have guided her a bit but it didn't work out. Windows users, by the
way, seem to prefer KDE as their desktop, while total newbies or OS X users
seem to prefer Gnome (as do I). The point? Ubuntu is 95% of the way there
as a free software desktop. A few things are irritating--CD/DVD burning is
less than ideal, and wireless cards that don't have native kernel drivers
can be a ginormous pain in the ass to get working. That said, viruses are
essentially non-existent, the package management (using dpkg and apt-get)
is the best in the world by far without a doubt nobody can argue it. OpenO
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| Re: To RAID or not to RAID for PARIS... Now is the question!!! Please help! [message #61999 is a reply to message #61989] |
Thu, 29 December 2005 08:38 |
Suad
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Cheers,
-Jamie
http://www.JamieKrutz.com
DJ wrote:
> The polls always reflect the pollsters agenda and the pollster's agenda is
> to get paid by the agenda that is paying the pollsters to conduct the poll.
> I got a cll the other day from a pollster and I couldn't believe the
> convoluted, manipulative way the questions were couched. They were designed
> to have only one outcome. Nothing is objective or unbiased these days. I
> think that your ideas about the way the majority of Americans feel about
> their government may be wrong., but I don't know for sure, because we have
> only polls as reference until election time is over plus a few days because
> and we all know........exit polls are as flawed as other polls.
>
> ;o)
>
> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:43b3f765$1@linux...
>
>>Actually, it's gotten to the point where the majority of Americans don't
>>like their government. Although, as I understand it, the current
>>president is a Mac user and an iPod person.
>>
>>So I guess merely having a Mac will not necessarily assure domestic or
>>worldwide popularity, or inspiring governance.
>>
>>Yet another strike against Apple? ;^)
>>
>>Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> http://www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>>DJ wrote:
>>
>>>. The Mac bashing is more than just an opinion, it's ignorant and mean
>>>
>>>
>>>>spirited, and it deserves a response. It really is a slam on anybody
>>>
>>>that
>>>
>>>
>>>>uses a Mac.
>>>
>>>
>>>.........hmmmmm........sorta' like when people say "we really like
>>>Americans, we just don't like your government".
>
>
>Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
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>Actually, it's gotten to the point where the majority of Americans don't
>like their government. Although, as I understand it, the current
>president is a Mac user and an iPod person.
Oooooh Noooo! Jamie, did you have to say that??? Now this is going to get
political. You might as well have just told them that Rush Limbaugh is a
big Mac user! This is sure to start some stuff.
Is GWB aware that Al Gore sits on Apples board of directors?
>
>So I guess merely having a Mac will not necessarily assure domestic or
>worldwide popularity, or inspiring governance.
>
>Yet another strike against Apple? ;^)
>
>Cheers,
> -Jamie
> http://www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
>DJ wrote:
>> . The Mac bashing is more than just an opinion, it's ignorant and mean
>>
>>>spirited, and it deserves a response. It really is a slam on anybody
>>
>> that
>>
>>>uses a Mac.
>>
>>
>> .........hmmmmm........sorta' like when people say "we really like
>> Americans, we just don't like your government".Heh. Good points James. If Al Gore, George Bush and blowhard talk show
hosts can all agree, then OSX must be truly subversive. :^)
Cheers,
-Jamie
http://www.JamieKrutz.com
James McCloskey wrote:
> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>
>>Actually, it's gotten to the point where the majority of Americans don't
>
>
>>like their government. Although, as I understand it, the current
>>president is a Mac user and an iPod person.
>
>
> Oooooh Noooo! Jamie, did you have to say that??? Now this is going to get
> politi
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| Re: To RAID or not to RAID for PARIS... Now is the question!!! Please help! [message #62001 is a reply to message #61993] |
Thu, 29 December 2005 08:44 |
Suad
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> Saturn but are too stupid to make it work. etc etc) I am typing
> this on one of the famous logic-board-failure iBooks. We had to
> band together and actually start collecting signatures for a class
> action lawsuit before they fixed it. This computer went back 3
> times for the same problem and they were just putting the same
> bad logic boards in until the warranty expired. Pretty cynical huh?
> After the class action threat, it went back the fourth time and they
> seem to have gotten it right. I use a blue-white G3 for Paris, and it
> is almost as stable as a reel-to-reel, but that came from a week of
> developing a dedicated extension list. Why in hell did I have to do
> that? Because computers suck. all of them. I use a new Mac Mini
> for general stuff and it is OK, but has a problem with desktop
> management, moving folders all over the place and not opening
> them... I will get the latest OS, but Mr. Mac Tech support is not
> sure that will fix it, but he couldn't fix it either, and stopped taking
> my calls as soon as he legally could do so...
>
> COMPUTERS SUCK! all of them.
>
> The industry benefits much more from gripe-and-bitch types,
> providing they are reasonably informed, than from from boosters.
>
> Oh, and I use a VAIO running XP at work. The new Soundweb
> London app will not run on it. The code writers never checked the
> app with a VAIO... dickheads.
>
> Informed critique is the ONLY way we get better gear.
>
> Big computer/software companies are not your friend.
>
> Smaller, more responsive companies are much better. I was a beta
> tester for the mac version of Peterson Strobotune, and it was sooo
> cool to be able to get the project director's response, and a new,
> fixed version of the app, within days of sending them an email.
>
> Let's hope Apple can still do this with OSX. MS is a lost cause;
> we use them when we must. Which is why open-source stuff
> exists.
>
> Platform wars are the biggest waste of time I can imagine,
> next to this:
>
> Report message to a moderator
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| Re: To RAID or not to RAID for PARIS... Now is the question!!! Please help! [message #62065 is a reply to message #61999] |
Thu, 29 December 2005 23:15 |
Deej [1]
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64;linux...
> ..........errrr........this is SATA raid. I tried IDE Raid a long time
> ago.
> It was a serious performance hit. Not a good thing, at least at the
> time.....which was around 2001.
>
>
> ;o)
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> news:43b4decb$1@linux...
>> I'm using a pair of 36G WD 10,000 RPM Raptors in a Raid0 array on my
>> Paris
>> rig. I no longer have anything in the way of streaming errors. Paranoia
>> is
>> the tradeoff. If either one or both of these drives hiccups, I'm toast. I
>> back them up after every session.
>>
>> ;o)
>>
>> "Suad" <suad@sail.hr> wrote in message news:43b3abd5@linux...
>> > Hello.
>> >
>> > Just making new computer for paris.
>> > It's an Intel P4 3.2G Northwood with an Intel 875PBZ mainboard.
>> > As the mainboard have ICH5R chip, I can choose to RAID or to not...
>> >
>> > I thougt to take 2x segate 160gig s-ata and put them into RAID...
>> > ...or to take one WD Raptor for system and one segate 160 or 250gig for
>> > audio
>> > without a RAID.
>> >
>> > Any thoughts?? Any problems in PARIS with that kind of RAID?
>> > RAID I/O size 128kb? or 64kb? or???
>> >
>> > Please, hurry up with replies, I must buy hard disks til tomorrow...
>> >
>> > Thanks a lot!
>> >
>> > Suad
>> >
>> >
>>
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>So, you say I should securely go RAID ??
My RAID will also be S-ATA. I ment to take 2X Segate 250Gigs.
So, no any problem with PARIS and s-ata RAID?
Sorry, I'm little bit stupid today... maybe because of buzz consumed
last night... khh, khh... ;)
You still have P2BLS? My is working for the last 8 years and I must
say it's flawless!! Even now, with XP, newest software, 2EDS, Matrox,
RME and NEC usb2 controller, 2SCSI disc and 1 IDE drive, ALL inside and
CPU overclocked 25%. I wish my new computer be so stable and reliable....
As I mentioned before, I have an exactly the same comp for cubase right now.
It's an P43.2G northwood, Intel 875PBZ mbo, 2GB of crucial CL2 mem,
matrox G550 and 2x Segate 250gb s-ata in RAID. Works great for cubase and
stuff...
here is the pic of it.... good old mother f____r! nice, isnt it? ;)
I wish my new computer to be so stable and reliable....
As I mentioned before, I have an exactly the same comp for cubase right now.
It's an P43.2G northwood, Intel 875PBZ mbo, 2GB of crucial CL2 mem,
matrox G550 and 2x Segate 250gb s-ata in RAID. Works great for cubase and
stuff...
Cheers!
Suad
Cool!
Cheers!
Suad
"Mark McCurdy" <mark@mccurdy.net> wrote in message news:43b4c894@linux...
> Yea that is the same thing I did. We would send midi via the snake to the
> board to run the light board and FX. :) I made a home made version based
> on the pin outs that were posted in an old edition of Keyboard Magazine.
I
> knew that only 3 pins were used but couldn't remember which ones. Thanks
for
> the reminder and this will help a lot.
>
>
> "Mark McCurdy" <mark@mccurdy.net> wrote in message news:43b3edee@linux...
> > I'm looking for an adapter that will allow me to send a midi signal down
a
> > standard XLR snake. I've seen them so I know they exist but it's been
> > years. Does anyone know of a company that would still make these?
> >
> >
> >
>
>If I remember correct, I think it's showing up when installing the VIA Bus
Master IDE-controller.
Erling
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> skrev i melding
news:43b4a958$1@linux...
> guess I'll read some more, but I still can't find where to check to see
> whether DMA is enabled/disabled..
>
>
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> news:43b4a4f1$1@linux...
>> I think I may have a defective mobo. I've been chasing too many gremlins.
>> I've managed to kill off a
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| Re: To RAID or not to RAID for PARIS... Now is the question!!! Please help! [message #62068 is a reply to message #62066] |
Fri, 30 December 2005 00:05 |
Martin Harrington
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workstations. I've always trusted Seagate. This is the last thing I would
> have expected. Now once I get the new WD drive loaded, if it shows only
> PIO
> mode too, then that likely a mobo glitch and *will* be cause for
> additional
> wailing, gnashing of teeth......etc..
>
> Appreciate your feedback man. It's sure good to have you back around here.
>
> ;o)
>
>
> "tcb" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:43b4a9f0$1@linux...
>>
>> Hey Deej,
>>
>> Well, it sounds to me like these are two unrelated problems. Problem
> number
>> one sounds like software of some kind. DMA isn't really an issue, it's
> enabled
>> by default. The real sign that it's software is ghosting back to the
> original
>> setup makes it work. Is there another drive on that IDE controller? Check
>> to be sure it isn't on cable select or something screwy like that.
>>
>> The second problem DOES sound like hardware. What's the mobo? I might do
>> a www.google.com/groups search to see if anyone else is having the same
> problem
>> with the memory. I'd also check with the mobo vendor for a BIOS update,
>> it
>> certainly sounds like the memory hardware is fine and it's a mobo issue.
>>
>> In case you're wondering, I'm posting this from my admitedly heavly and
> clunky
>> new HP laptop but it's running Debian amd64 testing like a champ. The
> amd64
>> installers seem a little more tempermental but all of that Windows
> nastiness
>> is off of it already. Too bad I'll have to put it back on to get Live
> running
>> on it.
>>
>> TCB
>>
>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>> >I think I may have a defective mobo. I've been chasing too many
>> >gremlins.
>> >I've managed to kill off all but two, as follows-
>> >
>> >1. Gremlin #1-I have a 400G drive dedicated to samples. It's a 7200RPM
>> >Seagate Barracuda and is IDE2 master. All of my samples for BFD are on
> this
>> >
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| Re: To RAID or not to RAID for PARIS... Now is the question!!! Please help! [message #62078 is a reply to message #62069] |
Fri, 30 December 2005 06:59 |
Deej [1]
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amic range. She starts out like
>
>>a ballad and then is belting it out like whitney. I tried a variety of
>
>>compressors but none seem able to tame this. Limiters seem to work the
>
>>best so far. I'm going to try a combo of the two but just wondered what
>
>>you guys would do for plugins. I tried C1 Comp, RenVox, Timeworks
>>Mastering Compressor, Ultrafunk compressor (worked better), Bluetubes,
>>Voxengo, but the Bluetubes limiter seemed to do the best job so far.
>>
>>Where would you be going on this. Is there a stereo NoLimit? I forget.
>
>> If so, is that a possibility? What plugin can jam this into the pocket.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>John"Suad" <suad@sail.hr> wrote:
>So, you say I should securely go RAID ??
>So, no any problem with PARIS and s-ata RAID?
>
I’ve been running RAIDs on my Macs and PCs for years and so far I have had
zero problems. I do back up frequently.
I have posted here previously with some benchmark results.
GeneDJ is from the future. I was just playing around so I was trying to
find a plug to do this but it makes TOTAL sense to ride the faders and
automate. DOH.
This girl who sang is an untrained teen and I was just recording her for
fun. So I was thinking a plug would totally tame it. I was wrong ;-)
cujo wrote:
> Almost simultaneous answering here, strange DJ's post says 8:07 but it wasnt
> there when I looked
>
> "cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote:
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>>I am sure you tried this but, automation?
>>
>>
>>John <no@no.com> wrote:
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>>>I have a female vocal that has huge dynamic range. She starts out like
>>
>>>a ballad and then is belting it out like whitney. I tried a variety of
>>
>>>compressors but none seem able to tame this. Limiters seem to work the
>>
>>>best so far. I'm going to try a combo of the two but just wondered what
>>
>>>you guys would do for plugins. I tried C1 Comp, RenVox, Timeworks
>>>Mastering Compressor, Ultrafunk compressor (worked better), Bluetubes,
>
>
>>>Voxengo, but the Bluetubes limiter seemed to do the best job so far.
>>>
>>>Where would you be going on this. Is there a stereo NoLimit? I forget.
>>
>>> If so, is that a possibility? What plugin can jam this into the pocket.
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>
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| Re: To RAID or not to RAID for PARIS... Now is the question!!! Please help! [message #62079 is a reply to message #62068] |
Fri, 30 December 2005 07:01 |
Deej [1]
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;>>JohnTHE industry standard is Discreet Smoke/Flame and the big bro HD
versions. They are half a million bucks but worth it. You'll find Avid
used in a lot of editorial houses and Premier/Final Cut/Vegas used by
pro-sumers. And the results go exactly hand-in-hand with product level.
Final Cut, imho, is the best prosumer app with the least artifacting.
Bandon wrote:
>Hey guys I am going to add video editing to my skill set and am wondering
>which software is the industry standard for film, web media etc...
>I was looking at learning Adobe Premier.
>Will it sync to PARIS (thru use of the SMPTE audio file)
>
>
>brilliant!
Don Nafe wrote:
>Ingenious!
>
>Copied from PSW
>
>"While we slave away as audio goobers, this guy makes a million bucks with a
>brilliantly simple idea. Shoot me now, why the hell didn't I think of this?
>
>http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051229/ts_nm/homepage_dc
>
>
>DOn
>
>
>
>"Jon Jiles" <no@nomo.com> wrote:
>
>.. and you couldn't spend a fortune, what would it be?
I would absolutely want a non-colored pre. In my case that would be GML.
If you can't afford that, the original Great River is now popping up on
eBay for good prices, and you can occassionaly get a two channel Millennia
for $1200-$1400.They said they were going out on the 3rd, so watch for em around then...
"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:43b52675$1@linux...
> I'm waiting on my tracking numbers for the ski boat, jet ski and motocross
> bike. holding my breath. :-) I believe!I was thinking our db was Doug Bailey. Also sorry for any confusion.
Tony
"zornwil" <wilson.zorn@takeout_asterick_theobvious.com> wrote in message
news:43b4c6b8$1@linux...
> No, sorry, I'd forgotten there was one here, sorry for any false alarm!
>
> "Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote in message
> news:43b42f16@linux...
>> Is this db from our group? If so, I'm very sorry to hear it. If not,
>> still
>> very sorry to hear it. Passing away on a holiday has to be extra hard for
>> those loved ones left behind. Hopefully they can find a way to make
>> Christmas a day to remember the happy times and honor his life, rather
> than
>> his death.
>>
>> Tony
>>
>> "zornwil" <wilson.zorn@takeout_asterick_theobvious.com> wrote in message
>>
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