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| Re: Chinese knock off plugins [message #79226 is a reply to message #79224] |
Mon, 29 January 2007 18:46   |
Dedric Terry
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Hi Neil,
rar is just another compression format. Winrar will unzip them (shareware).
Check tucows.com for file compression utilities. The plugins aren't quite
UAD-1 replacements, but not bad for freeware I guess. The limiters aren't
too good - tend to distort too easily, which kind of defeats the purpose.
re: scoring - I have everything tied together via gigabit lan, running Midi
Over Lan for midi
(seriously cool app - multiple ports, 16 channels each, multiple PC licenses
and more efficient
than hardware, and cheaper - works amazingly well).
I run lightpipe between RME cards for audio. Everything is routed back
through Totalmix and to the main monitors.
Basically Nuendo is setup with a few templates for different uses. I load
part of the orchestra on each system
in Kontakt (standalone) and have tracks already defined and routed via MOL
from Nuendo to each instrument on
the remotes. Once everything is loaded up, I have access to whatever I need
just be selecting the appropriate track. It's faster than loading only what
I need
as I go.
I usually run midi/tempo synced plugins in Nuendo itself as Kontakt doesn't
receive
external external midi clock in standalone mode, but with other
standalone VSTi's, that's no problem via MOL. I'll probably pick up VST
stack here
soon to be able to load other VSTi's remotely as well.
Regards,
Dedric
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:45bea708$1@linux...
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> How do you unzip those things? I've seen that ".rar" extension
> before and I know it's some kind of compression algo, but what
> utility do you need to de-stuff it?
>
> Hey Dedric, also meant to ask you - you had said before (IIRC)
> that you do film scoring stuff, and you use several PC's at once
> due to all the VSTi's, etc... how do you sync & monitor those?
> Are they MIDI-synced & you monitor through a console, or what?
>
> Neil
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> "Dedric Terry" <dedric@echomg.com> wrote:
>>Okay, I found a thread on them on kvr-vst so they are legit; and tried
>>them - no comment on quality yet
>>as I'm just running some loops through them quickly, but for freeware they
>>might be cool to have around.
>>
>>Sorry for the stereotype...not really fair.
>>
>>dt
>>
>>"Dedric Terry" <dedric@echomg.com> wrote in message news:45be9216@linux...
>>> http://www.modernplugins.in-tw.com/
>>>
>>> These sound almost like emulations that sound almost like the real
>>> thing.
>>>
>>> (actually I haven't dl'd these. I'll let someone else on kvr-vst.com
>
>>> check them for viruses
>>> and crash generating code. They might actually be good for all I know).
>>>
>>> dt
>>>
>>
>>
>
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| Re: Chinese knock off plugins [message #79236 is a reply to message #79218] |
Mon, 29 January 2007 21:26 |
TCB
Messages: 1261
Registered: July 2007
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So, they're from China. Therefore they're 'emulations of emulations?' Because
that's not in the least bit, well, you know, kind of, uh, racial stereotyping?
Right? Those Orientals, well, they're good at copying, but that's all. Right?
All the good ideas come from here where, you know, Europeans live. Those
other people just rip off our good ideas and make them cheaper.
Dedric, you're a good guy, I know that from all of the posts I've seen from
you here. But there are incredibly brilliant coders in China and India right
now trying to make a living doing what they love. Some of them will do audio
DSP. Dismissing them out of hand, simply because they are from China, well,
it's repellant.
TCB
"Dedric Terry" <dedric@echomg.com> wrote:
>http://www.modernplugins.in-tw.com/
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>These sound almost like emulations that sound almost like the real thing.
>
>(actually I haven't dl'd these. I'll let someone else on kvr-vst.com check
>them for viruses
>and crash generating code. They might actually be good for all I know).
>
>dt
>
>
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| Re: Antress plugins (was...) [message #79244 is a reply to message #79236] |
Mon, 29 January 2007 22:03 |
Dedric Terry
Messages: 788
Registered: June 2007
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Thad - you missed my follow up post where I retracted this comment, but that
was too late anyway.
You are right, my joke wasn't funny, or even a joke - it was supposed to be
a take off on the whole C1 vs. U87 "debate" that rooted itself in the pro
audio community for several years, not a slight on the developers or the
Chinese in general. I apologize.
There's nothing wrong with these plugins - they aren't superb, but the
developer is on the right track and I hope he keeps going strong with these,
eventually making money off of them, competing with the best of them. Other
than some issues with the limiters, they are better than most freeware
plugins.
I tried all of them just to give them a chance - good ideas there. Yes, you
are right, and even the whole "Chinese mic" stereotype is ill-conceived and
unfair.
I changed the subject to keep from propagating the poor analogy.
Regards,
Dedric
On 1/29/07 10:26 PM, in article 45bec905$1@linux, "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com>
wrote:
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> So, they're from China. Therefore they're 'emulations of emulations?' Because
> that's not in the least bit, well, you know, kind of, uh, racial stereotyping?
> Right? Those Orientals, well, they're good at copying, but that's all. Right?
> All the good ideas come from here where, you know, Europeans live. Those
> other people just rip off our good ideas and make them cheaper.
>
> Dedric, you're a good guy, I know that from all of the posts I've seen from
> you here. But there are incredibly brilliant coders in China and India right
> now trying to make a living doing what they love. Some of them will do audio
> DSP. Dismissing them out of hand, simply because they are from China, well,
> it's repellant.
>
> TCB
>
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| Re: Antress plugins (was...) [message #79245 is a reply to message #79244] |
Mon, 29 January 2007 23:11 |
TCB
Messages: 1261
Registered: July 2007
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I did miss that follow up, you're right. Didn't mean to be too harsh, but
because of my day job I see the spectacular dedication and quality that Chinese
and Indian programmers have. It's awe inspiring, to be honest. I apologize
if my reponse was a bit harsh. Let's call it quits and be open to some really
exciting coding talent that might come from unexpected places.
TCB
Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>Thad - you missed my follow up post where I retracted this comment, but
that
>was too late anyway.
>
>You are right, my joke wasn't funny, or even a joke - it was supposed to
be
>a take off on the whole C1 vs. U87 "debate" that rooted itself in the pro
>audio community for several years, not a slight on the developers or the
>Chinese in general. I apologize.
>
>There's nothing wrong with these plugins - they aren't superb, but the
>developer is on the right track and I hope he keeps going strong with these,
>eventually making money off of them, competing with the best of them. Other
>than some issues with the limiters, they are better than most freeware
>plugins.
>
>I tried all of them just to give them a chance - good ideas there. Yes,
you
>are right, and even the whole "Chinese mic" stereotype is ill-conceived
and
>unfair.
>
>I changed the subject to keep from propagating the poor analogy.
>
>Regards,
>Dedric
>
>
>
>On 1/29/07 10:26 PM, in article 45bec905$1@linux, "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com>
>wrote:
>
>>
>> So, they're from China. Therefore they're 'emulations of emulations?'
Because
>> that's not in the least bit, well, you know, kind of, uh, racial stereotyping?
>> Right? Those Orientals, well, they're good at copying, but that's all.
Right?
>> All the good ideas come from here where, you know, Europeans live. Those
>> other people just rip off our good ideas and make them cheaper.
>>
>> Dedric, you're a good guy, I know that from all of the posts I've seen
from
>> you here. But there are incredibly brilliant coders in China and India
right
>> now trying to make a living doing what they love. Some of them will do
audio
>> DSP. Dismissing them out of hand, simply because they are from China,
well,
>> it's repellant.
>>
>> TCB
>>
>
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| Re: Antress plugins (was...) [message #79247 is a reply to message #79245] |
Mon, 29 January 2007 22:20 |
Dedric Terry
Messages: 788
Registered: June 2007
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No you weren't too harsh - you were right. I deserved it.
> be open to some really exciting coding talent that might come from unexpected
places.
Absolutely - hardware development included.
Regards,
Dedric
On 1/30/07 12:11 AM, in article 45bee196$1@linux, "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com>
wrote:
>
> I did miss that follow up, you're right. Didn't mean to be too harsh, but
> because of my day job I see the spectacular dedication and quality that
> Chinese
> and Indian programmers have. It's awe inspiring, to be honest. I apologize
> if my reponse was a bit harsh. Let's call it quits and be open to some really
> exciting coding talent that might come from unexpected places.
>
> TCB
>
> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>> Thad - you missed my follow up post where I retracted this comment, but
> that
>> was too late anyway.
>>
>> You are right, my joke wasn't funny, or even a joke - it was supposed to
> be
>> a take off on the whole C1 vs. U87 "debate" that rooted itself in the pro
>> audio community for several years, not a slight on the developers or the
>> Chinese in general. I apologize.
>>
>> There's nothing wrong with these plugins - they aren't superb, but the
>> developer is on the right track and I hope he keeps going strong with these,
>> eventually making money off of them, competing with the best of them. Other
>> than some issues with the limiters, they are better than most freeware
>> plugins.
>>
>> I tried all of them just to give them a chance - good ideas there. Yes,
> you
>> are right, and even the whole "Chinese mic" stereotype is ill-conceived
> and
>> unfair.
>>
>> I changed the subject to keep from propagating the poor analogy.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Dedric
>>
>>
>>
>> On 1/29/07 10:26 PM, in article 45bec905$1@linux, "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> So, they're from China. Therefore they're 'emulations of emulations?'
> Because
>>> that's not in the least bit, well, you know, kind of, uh, racial
>>> stereotyping?
>>> Right? Those Orientals, well, they're good at copying, but that's all.
> Right?
>>> All the good ideas come from here where, you know, Europeans live. Those
>>> other people just rip off our good ideas and make them cheaper.
>>>
>>> Dedric, you're a good guy, I know that from all of the posts I've seen
> from
>>> you here. But there are incredibly brilliant coders in China and India
> right
>>> now trying to make a living doing what they love. Some of them will do
> audio
>>> DSP. Dismissing them out of hand, simply because they are from China,
> well,
>>> it's repellant.
>>>
>>> TCB
>>>
>>
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| Re: Antress plugins (was...) [message #79249 is a reply to message #79247] |
Mon, 29 January 2007 23:40 |
TCB
Messages: 1261
Registered: July 2007
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No blood, no foul.
Regards to you as well, and as always, cheers,
TCB
Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>No you weren't too harsh - you were right. I deserved it.
>
>> be open to some really exciting coding talent that might come from unexpected
>places.
>
>Absolutely - hardware development included.
>
>Regards,
>Dedric
>
>On 1/30/07 12:11 AM, in article 45bee196$1@linux, "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com>
>wrote:
>
>>
>> I did miss that follow up, you're right. Didn't mean to be too harsh,
but
>> because of my day job I see the spectacular dedication and quality that
>> Chinese
>> and Indian programmers have. It's awe inspiring, to be honest. I apologize
>> if my reponse was a bit harsh. Let's call it quits and be open to some
really
>> exciting coding talent that might come from unexpected places.
>>
>> TCB
>>
>> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>> Thad - you missed my follow up post where I retracted this comment, but
>> that
>>> was too late anyway.
>>>
>>> You are right, my joke wasn't funny, or even a joke - it was supposed
to
>> be
>>> a take off on the whole C1 vs. U87 "debate" that rooted itself in the
pro
>>> audio community for several years, not a slight on the developers or
the
>>> Chinese in general. I apologize.
>>>
>>> There's nothing wrong with these plugins - they aren't superb, but the
>>> developer is on the right track and I hope he keeps going strong with
these,
>>> eventually making money off of them, competing with the best of them.
Other
>>> than some issues with the limiters, they are better than most freeware
>>> plugins.
>>>
>>> I tried all of them just to give them a chance - good ideas there. Yes,
>> you
>>> are right, and even the whole "Chinese mic" stereotype is ill-conceived
>> and
>>> unfair.
>>>
>>> I changed the subject to keep from propagating the poor analogy.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Dedric
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1/29/07 10:26 PM, in article 45bec905$1@linux, "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> So, they're from China. Therefore they're 'emulations of emulations?'
>> Because
>>>> that's not in the least bit, well, you know, kind of, uh, racial
>>>> stereotyping?
>>>> Right? Those Orientals, well, they're good at copying, but that's all.
>> Right?
>>>> All the good ideas come from here where, you know, Europeans live. Those
>>>> other people just rip off our good ideas and make them cheaper.
>>>>
>>>> Dedric, you're a good guy, I know that from all of the posts I've seen
>> from
>>>> you here. But there are incredibly brilliant coders in China and India
>> right
>>>> now trying to make a living doing what they love. Some of them will
do
>> audio
>>>> DSP. Dismissing them out of hand, simply because they are from China,
>> well,
>>>> it's repellant.
>>>>
>>>> TCB
>>>>
>>>
>>
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