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Tue, 09 December 2008 08:23  |
John Minnella
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Registered: December 2008
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I picked up a Paris with a MEC, 442, computer and Control 16. In the Paris
software one has to hold down the left mouse button or the menus go away.
We are short the 8 pin mini din cable which should be here Friday. Is there
some special mouse required or is this a wrinkle in this particular system?
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| Re: new to Paris [message #101525 is a reply to message #101521] |
Tue, 09 December 2008 09:12  |
Wayne
Messages: 206
Registered: July 2008
Location: Las Vegas
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Welcome aboard J Minnella,
You've now got a DAW with no midi magic but an awesome audio engine. Most
folks use software version v3.0 and either Win98 or WinXP. Both have plus's
and minuses. Avoid Vista on your Paris machine. It will not work.
I'm happy that you found this newsgroup. Stay connected to this newsgroup.
Everything Paris and then some can be learned here. Learn about upgrades,
updates and bugs and fixes. These folks are great. I lurk here when I'm at
home in my studio. I travel a lot for a week at a time so when I return
I've got lot's to catch up on. Take the time and you will be rewarded with
knowledge.
On your question. I've been on Paris since it's release in '97 and I still
forget at times to hold down the left mouse click when selecting from the
menu. It's something that you will get used to. In fact, I think it is more
efficient then clicking twice on the menu items. I may be wrong but I
believe that this type of action is how MACs work. Anyhow, it's only
peculiar in the menu area, that I recall
Paris is a vintage DAW but remains a top notch audio processor even to this
day. Get your hands on the owners, or users or reference manual for the
software version that you use. Purchase Brian T's instructional DVD and
most of all, push your new Paris system to the extreme. The system can give
you a wide open, spacious, floating on air vibe or an in your face, pulse
pounding rock system. Use the keyboard and mouse shortcuts to really speed
up your workflow.
If you can, upgrade your playback system with a DAC and higher end monitors
for the full enjoyment of what Paris has for you.
Well, I'm headed out. See you in a week.
Enjoy (I still do),
Wayne
"John Minnella" <minnella@lfe.arizona.edu> wrote in message
news:493e8d68$1@linux...
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> I picked up a Paris with a MEC, 442, computer and Control 16. In the Paris
> software one has to hold down the left mouse button or the menus go away.
> We are short the 8 pin mini din cable which should be here Friday. Is
> there
> some special mouse required or is this a wrinkle in this particular
> system?
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| Re: new to Paris [message #101531 is a reply to message #101521] |
Tue, 09 December 2008 13:14 |
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It's not a bug, it's a "feature" :D
That's one of PARIS' little peculiarities - a GUI that both Mac and PC users
can feel slightly "not at home" with; you just get used to it.
- K
On 12/9/08 8:23 AM, in article 493e8d68$1@linux, "John Minnella"
<minnella@lfe.arizona.edu> wrote:
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> I picked up a Paris with a MEC, 442, computer and Control 16. In the Paris
> software one has to hold down the left mouse button or the menus go away.
> We are short the 8 pin mini din cable which should be here Friday. Is there
> some special mouse required or is this a wrinkle in this particular system?
>
"... being bitter is like swallowing poison and waiting for the other guy to die..." - anon
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| Re: new to Paris [message #101536 is a reply to message #101525] |
Tue, 09 December 2008 15:58 |
John Minnella
Messages: 8
Registered: December 2008
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Thanks Wayne and everyone for the welcome. My home email is jjmac2@dakotacom.net
I am in Tucson Az.....I would love to find out where to buy the DVD if someone
can email mne that.
"Wayne Carson" <waynecarson@cox.net> wrote:
>Welcome aboard J Minnella,
>
>You've now got a DAW with no midi magic but an awesome audio engine. Most
>folks use software version v3.0 and either Win98 or WinXP. Both have plus's
>and minuses. Avoid Vista on your Paris machine. It will not work.
>
>I'm happy that you found this newsgroup. Stay connected to this newsgroup.
>Everything Paris and then some can be learned here. Learn about upgrades,
>updates and bugs and fixes. These folks are great. I lurk here when I'm
at
>home in my studio. I travel a lot for a week at a time so when I return
>I've got lot's to catch up on. Take the time and you will be rewarded with
>knowledge.
>
>On your question. I've been on Paris since it's release in '97 and I still
>forget at times to hold down the left mouse click when selecting from the
>menu. It's something that you will get used to. In fact, I think it is
more
>efficient then clicking twice on the menu items. I may be wrong but I
>believe that this type of action is how MACs work. Anyhow, it's only
>peculiar in the menu area, that I recall
>
>Paris is a vintage DAW but remains a top notch audio processor even to this
>day. Get your hands on the owners, or users or reference manual for the
>software version that you use. Purchase Brian T's instructional DVD and
>most of all, push your new Paris system to the extreme. The system can
give
>you a wide open, spacious, floating on air vibe or an in your face, pulse
>pounding rock system. Use the keyboard and mouse shortcuts to really speed
>up your workflow.
>
>If you can, upgrade your playback system with a DAC and higher end monitors
>for the full enjoyment of what Paris has for you.
>
>Well, I'm headed out. See you in a week.
>
>Enjoy (I still do),
>Wayne
>
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>
>"John Minnella" <minnella@lfe.arizona.edu> wrote in message
>news:493e8d68$1@linux...
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>> I picked up a Paris with a MEC, 442, computer and Control 16. In the Paris
>> software one has to hold down the left mouse button or the menus go away.
>> We are short the 8 pin mini din cable which should be here Friday. Is
>> there
>> some special mouse required or is this a wrinkle in this particular
>> system?
>>
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| Re: new to Paris [message #101543 is a reply to message #101536] |
Tue, 09 December 2008 19:46 |
Paul Artola
Messages: 161
Registered: November 2005
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John -
Welcome to the world of Paris.
Since you are in Tucson, you should lookup a fella there named Doug
Wellington. He posts here on occasion, and has a monster Paris rig. He
can probably answer most, if not all, of your questions.
- Paul Artola
Ellicott City, Maryland
On 10 Dec 2008 09:58:08 +1000, "John Minnella"
<minnella@lfe.arizona.edu> wrote:
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>Thanks Wayne and everyone for the welcome. My home email is jjmac2@dakotacom.net
>I am in Tucson Az.....I would love to find out where to buy the DVD if someone
>can email mne that.
>
>
>"Wayne Carson" <waynecarson@cox.net> wrote:
>>Welcome aboard J Minnella,
>>
>>You've now got a DAW with no midi magic but an awesome audio engine. Most
>
>>folks use software version v3.0 and either Win98 or WinXP. Both have plus's
>
>>and minuses. Avoid Vista on your Paris machine. It will not work.
>>
>>I'm happy that you found this newsgroup. Stay connected to this newsgroup.
>
>>Everything Paris and then some can be learned here. Learn about upgrades,
>
>>updates and bugs and fixes. These folks are great. I lurk here when I'm
>at
>>home in my studio. I travel a lot for a week at a time so when I return
>
>>I've got lot's to catch up on. Take the time and you will be rewarded with
>
>>knowledge.
>>
>>On your question. I've been on Paris since it's release in '97 and I still
>
>>forget at times to hold down the left mouse click when selecting from the
>
>>menu. It's something that you will get used to. In fact, I think it is
>more
>>efficient then clicking twice on the menu items. I may be wrong but I
>>believe that this type of action is how MACs work. Anyhow, it's only
>>peculiar in the menu area, that I recall
>>
>>Paris is a vintage DAW but remains a top notch audio processor even to this
>
>>day. Get your hands on the owners, or users or reference manual for the
>
>>software version that you use. Purchase Brian T's instructional DVD and
>
>>most of all, push your new Paris system to the extreme. The system can
>give
>>you a wide open, spacious, floating on air vibe or an in your face, pulse
>
>>pounding rock system. Use the keyboard and mouse shortcuts to really speed
>
>>up your workflow.
>>
>>If you can, upgrade your playback system with a DAC and higher end monitors
>
>>for the full enjoyment of what Paris has for you.
>>
>>Well, I'm headed out. See you in a week.
>>
>>Enjoy (I still do),
>>Wayne
>>
>>
>>
>>"John Minnella" <minnella@lfe.arizona.edu> wrote in message
>>news:493e8d68$1@linux...
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>>> I picked up a Paris with a MEC, 442, computer and Control 16. In the Paris
>>> software one has to hold down the left mouse button or the menus go away.
>>> We are short the 8 pin mini din cable which should be here Friday. Is
>
>>> there
>>> some special mouse required or is this a wrinkle in this particular
>>> system?
>>>
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| Re: new to Paris [message #101663 is a reply to message #101559] |
Wed, 17 December 2008 07:59 |
John Minnella
Messages: 8
Registered: December 2008
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OK so reviewing the manual again there is no way to link a MEC and 442. One
would need two EDS cards. What I really need is an 8 in expansion card for
the MEC, correct?
Do the MEC and the expansion cards connect internally with a ribbon cable
or something?
What is the simplest way to check the MEC inputs to see if they work?
EK Sound <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote:
>Both the MEC and 442 connect to EDS cards by way of the SCSI-II
>connection on the back of the units labeled "EDS Computer Interface"
>The DIN plug labeled "To I/F2" is for just that, an IF2 interface
>addition... which you are not using.
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>David.
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>John Minnella wrote:
>> OK well now I am confused. I have the original docs and the
>> manual says to connect the MEC and the 442 with the mini din,
>> but not to plug the din cable into the EDS card. When you say
>> the 75 ohm cable are you talking about the word clock connections?
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| Re: new to Paris [message #101665 is a reply to message #101663] |
Wed, 17 December 2008 07:57 |
Erling
Messages: 156
Registered: October 2008
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The difference between a MEC and 442 are the 9 expansion cardplaces on the
MEC.
You can use the MEC without any expansion card, as a 442. But with in and
out expansion cards, you can use the full 24 bits bandwidth in Paris. If you
want to use both a MEC and a 442 with Paris, you need 2 EDS cards and as
Davis said, connected with SCSI-II cables between MEC/442 and EDS cards
that's syncronized with specialcutted ribbon cables inside the computer. If
you're using more than one EDS card inside the computer, all cards must be
syncronized with each other with these kind of ribboncables. You can also
use more than one EDS card with just one MEC/442 box.
The simplest way to check anything with Paris, hmmm, there must be many
simple ways but a mixer coupled to in on the MEC, get correct patching in
Paris and try recording with mic/instruments through the mixer. The manual
will be a good help to learn how but if there's some problems, don't be
afraid to ask more here.
Good luck
Erling
"John Minnella" <minnella@life.arizona.edu> skrev i melding
news:494913ec$1@linux...
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> OK so reviewing the manual again there is no way to link a MEC and 442.
> One
> would need two EDS cards. What I really need is an 8 in expansion card for
> the MEC, correct?
> Do the MEC and the expansion cards connect internally with a ribbon cable
> or something?
> What is the simplest way to check the MEC inputs to see if they work?
>
>
> EK Sound <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote:
>>Both the MEC and 442 connect to EDS cards by way of the SCSI-II
>>connection on the back of the units labeled "EDS Computer Interface"
>>The DIN plug labeled "To I/F2" is for just that, an IF2 interface
>>addition... which you are not using.
>>
>>David.
>>
>>John Minnella wrote:
>>> OK well now I am confused. I have the original docs and the
>>> manual says to connect the MEC and the 442 with the mini din,
>>> but not to plug the din cable into the EDS card. When you say
>>> the 75 ohm cable are you talking about the word clock connections?
>
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