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| A FYI regarding my Paris troubles and resolutions. [message #93355] |
Wed, 05 December 2007 20:12  |
Tom Bruhl
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To all that helped or are just interested,
You may recall in July I had a major league meltdown
of my 5 card/Magma/2 Mec, Lucid WC system.
I tried adding two more Mecs with a Mixer Mixer to allow
4 aux buses to tie together. As soon as I tied Mec #3 into
the mix Paris wouldn't boot. Later I was taught me to remove the
Paris Default Project from the Paris folder to help this situation.
I then hastily booted up Paris with a Mec half plugged in and sparks =
flew.
That mec is unrepairable. We tried. It smoked a chip in the Master =
section
labeled fP94AD
DM74LS
244WM
I bought 10 of them (SN74LS244DW) at Digikey.com for short money.
After this point I could never get the clock lights to lock or Paris to =
work with or without the
Lucid involved. My tech was right in assuming the same chip was fried =
across
all of the other Mecs. I later realized that a bent pin on 2 x SCSI 2 =
cables were
probably frying that same chip in every Mec I bought and tried (no smoke =
though).
Fast forward. During all of this I removed the Magma, Lucid and the =
main Paris computer.
I built a new (old) Paris computer using Dimitrios' Root C installation. =
This has to be helping.
I also eliminated Pace. I have installed everything including 4 EDS and =
a UAD into this computer
along with more quality plugins than my previous rig. It is stable and =
very powerful.
The chip that was stated above has been the cure all for all of the =
fried Mecs except the
first that actually saw sparks. So if your clock stops locking on a Mec =
this chip may be your savior.
It only takes a little over an hour for the whole job once you've done =
it a couple of times.
Thanks to all that helped me through this namely Mike Audet, Rod =
Lincoln, my tech Dave Matheson,
Jon Jiles, Paul Artola, Justin LaPierre, Dimitrios, Deej, Kim and one =
other person that I bought a Mec from
whose name escapes me.
Thanks to this whole group for all your answers!
Bottom line - all is better than ever in Paris.
Tom B.
I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>To all that helped or are just=20
interested,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You may recall in July I had a major =
league=20
meltdown</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>of my 5 card/Magma/2 Mec, Lucid=20
WC system.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I tried adding two more Mecs with a =
Mixer Mixer to=20
allow</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>4 aux buses to tie together. As =
soon as I=20
tied Mec #3 into</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the mix Paris wouldn't =
boot. Later I=20
was taught me to remove the</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Paris Default Project from the Paris =
folder to help=20
this situation.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I then hastily booted up =
Paris with=20
a Mec half plugged in and sparks flew.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>That mec is unrepairable. We =
tried. It smoked=20
a chip in the Master section</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>labeled fP94AD</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2> =20
DM74LS</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2> =20
244WM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I bought 10 of them (SN74LS244DW) at =
Digikey.com=20
for short money.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>After this point I could never get the =
clock lights=20
to lock or Paris to work with or without the</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Lucid involved. My tech was right =
in assuming=20
the same chip was fried across</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>all of the other Mecs. I later =
realized that=20
a bent pin on 2 x SCSI 2 cables were</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>probably frying that same chip in every =
Mec I=20
bought and tried (no smoke though).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Fast forward. During all of this =
I removed=20
the Magma, Lucid and the main Paris computer.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I built a new (old) Paris computer =
using=20
Dimitrios' Root C installation. This has to be =
helping.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I also eliminated Pace. I have =
installed=20
everything including 4 EDS and a UAD into this computer</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>along with more quality plugins than my =
previous=20
rig. It is stable and very powerful.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The chip that was stated =
above has been=20
the cure all for all of the fried Mecs except the</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>first that actually saw sparks. =
So if your=20
clock stops locking on a Mec this chip may be your savior.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It only takes a little over an hour for =
the whole=20
job once you've done it a couple of times.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks to all that helped me through =
this namely=20
Mike Audet, Rod Lincoln, my tech Dave Matheson,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jon Jiles, Paul Artola, Justin =
LaPierre, Dimitrios,=20
Deej, Kim and one other person that I bought a Mec =
from</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>whose name escapes me.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks to this whole group for all your =
answers!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Bottom line - a</FONT><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>ll is better than ever in Paris.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom B.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV></DIV>
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| Re: A FYI regarding my Paris troubles and resolutions. [message #93358 is a reply to message #93355] |
Wed, 05 December 2007 22:03  |
DJ
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Great news Tom. I was afraid I had screwed the pooch somehow by sending =
a MEC that might have been somehow cursed by my endless abuse of it. I =
wasn't quite sure how something like that could happen since it was =
working when it was decomissioned, but since your whole system went =
south the minute you added that MEC....well...anyway, it was weighing a =
bit heavily on me there for a while.
It's good to see you are up and running and that you know why this all =
happened.
Deej
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:475776ef@linux...
To all that helped or are just interested,
You may recall in July I had a major league meltdown
of my 5 card/Magma/2 Mec, Lucid WC system.
I tried adding two more Mecs with a Mixer Mixer to allow
4 aux buses to tie together. As soon as I tied Mec #3 into
the mix Paris wouldn't boot. Later I was taught me to remove the
Paris Default Project from the Paris folder to help this situation.
I then hastily booted up Paris with a Mec half plugged in and sparks =
flew.
That mec is unrepairable. We tried. It smoked a chip in the Master =
section
labeled fP94AD
DM74LS
244WM
I bought 10 of them (SN74LS244DW) at Digikey.com for short money.
After this point I could never get the clock lights to lock or Paris =
to work with or without the
Lucid involved. My tech was right in assuming the same chip was fried =
across
all of the other Mecs. I later realized that a bent pin on 2 x SCSI 2 =
cables were
probably frying that same chip in every Mec I bought and tried (no =
smoke though).
Fast forward. During all of this I removed the Magma, Lucid and the =
main Paris computer.
I built a new (old) Paris computer using Dimitrios' Root C =
installation. This has to be helping.
I also eliminated Pace. I have installed everything including 4 EDS =
and a UAD into this computer
along with more quality plugins than my previous rig. It is stable =
and very powerful.
The chip that was stated above has been the cure all for all of the =
fried Mecs except the
first that actually saw sparks. So if your clock stops locking on a =
Mec this chip may be your savior.
It only takes a little over an hour for the whole job once you've done =
it a couple of times.
Thanks to all that helped me through this namely Mike Audet, Rod =
Lincoln, my tech Dave Matheson,
Jon Jiles, Paul Artola, Justin LaPierre, Dimitrios, Deej, Kim and one =
other person that I bought a Mec from
whose name escapes me.
Thanks to this whole group for all your answers!
Bottom line - all is better than ever in Paris.
Tom B.
I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Great news Tom. I was afraid I had =
screwed the=20
pooch somehow by sending a MEC that might have been somehow cursed by my =
endless=20
abuse of it. I wasn't quite sure how something like that could happen =
since it=20
was working when it was decomissioned, but since your whole system went =
south=20
the minute you added that MEC....well...anyway, it was weighing a bit =
heavily on=20
me there for a while.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It's good to see you are up and running =
and that=20
you know why this all happened.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Deej</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote =
in message=20
<A href=3D"news:475776ef@linux">news:475776ef@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>To all that helped or are just=20
interested,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You may recall in July I had a major =
league=20
meltdown</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>of my 5 card/Magma/2 Mec, Lucid=20
WC system.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I tried adding two more Mecs with a =
Mixer Mixer=20
to allow</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>4 aux buses to tie together. As =
soon as I=20
tied Mec #3 into</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the mix Paris wouldn't =
boot. Later I=20
was taught me to remove the</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Paris Default Project from the Paris =
folder to=20
help this situation.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I then hastily booted up=20
Paris with a Mec half plugged in and sparks =
flew.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>That mec is unrepairable. We =
tried. It=20
smoked a chip in the Master section</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>labeled fP94AD</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2> =20
DM74LS</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2> =20
244WM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I bought 10 of them (SN74LS244DW) at =
Digikey.com=20
for short money.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>After this point I could never get =
the clock=20
lights to lock or Paris to work with or without the</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Lucid involved. My tech was =
right in=20
assuming the same chip was fried across</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>all of the other Mecs. I later =
realized=20
that a bent pin on 2 x SCSI 2 cables were</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>probably frying that same chip in =
every Mec I=20
bought and tried (no smoke though).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Fast forward. During all of =
this I removed=20
the Magma, Lucid and the main Paris computer.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I built a new (old) Paris =
computer using=20
Dimitrios' Root C installation. This has to be =
helping.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I also eliminated Pace. I have =
installed=20
everything including 4 EDS and a UAD into this computer</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>along with more quality plugins than =
my previous=20
rig. It is stable and very powerful.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The chip that was stated =
above has been=20
the cure all for all of the fried Mecs except the</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>first that actually saw sparks. =
So if your=20
clock stops locking on a Mec this chip may be your =
savior.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It only takes a little over an hour =
for the whole=20
job once you've done it a couple of times.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks to all that helped me through =
this namely=20
Mike Audet, Rod Lincoln, my tech Dave Matheson,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jon Jiles, Paul Artola, Justin =
LaPierre,=20
Dimitrios, Deej, Kim and one other person that I bought a Mec=20
from</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>whose name escapes me.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks to this whole group for all =
your=20
answers!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Bottom line - a</FONT><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>ll is better than ever in Paris.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom B.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, =
and=20
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| Re: A FYI regarding my Paris troubles and resolutions. [message #93393 is a reply to message #93355] |
Thu, 06 December 2007 22:30 |
Jon Jiles
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Tom - that's great news man!! Glad you finally got everything all dialed in!!
Cheers,
Jon
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>To all that helped or are just interested,
>
>You may recall in July I had a major league meltdown
>of my 5 card/Magma/2 Mec, Lucid WC system.
>
>I tried adding two more Mecs with a Mixer Mixer to allow
>4 aux buses to tie together. As soon as I tied Mec #3 into
>the mix Paris wouldn't boot. Later I was taught me to remove the
>Paris Default Project from the Paris folder to help this situation.
>
>I then hastily booted up Paris with a Mec half plugged in and sparks =
>flew.
>That mec is unrepairable. We tried. It smoked a chip in the Master =
>section
>labeled fP94AD
> DM74LS
> 244WM
>I bought 10 of them (SN74LS244DW) at Digikey.com for short money.
>
>After this point I could never get the clock lights to lock or Paris to
=
>work with or without the
>Lucid involved. My tech was right in assuming the same chip was fried =
>across
>all of the other Mecs. I later realized that a bent pin on 2 x SCSI 2 =
>cables were
>probably frying that same chip in every Mec I bought and tried (no smoke
=
>though).
>
>Fast forward. During all of this I removed the Magma, Lucid and the =
>main Paris computer.
>I built a new (old) Paris computer using Dimitrios' Root C installation.
=
> This has to be helping.
>I also eliminated Pace. I have installed everything including 4 EDS and
=
>a UAD into this computer
>along with more quality plugins than my previous rig. It is stable and
=
>very powerful.
>
>The chip that was stated above has been the cure all for all of the =
>fried Mecs except the
>first that actually saw sparks. So if your clock stops locking on a Mec
=
>this chip may be your savior.
>It only takes a little over an hour for the whole job once you've done =
>it a couple of times.
>
>Thanks to all that helped me through this namely Mike Audet, Rod =
>Lincoln, my tech Dave Matheson,
>Jon Jiles, Paul Artola, Justin LaPierre, Dimitrios, Deej, Kim and one =
>other person that I bought a Mec from
>whose name escapes me.
>
>Thanks to this whole group for all your answers!
>
>Bottom line - all is better than ever in Paris.
>Tom B.
>
>
>
>
>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
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><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>To all that helped or are just=20
>interested,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You may recall in July I had a major =
>league=20
>meltdown</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>of my 5 card/Magma/2 Mec, Lucid=20
>WC system.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I tried adding two more Mecs with a =
>Mixer Mixer to=20
>allow</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>4 aux buses to tie together. As =
>soon as I=20
>tied Mec #3 into</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the mix Paris wouldn't =
>boot. Later I=20
>was taught me to remove the</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Paris Default Project from the Paris =
>folder to help=20
>this situation.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I then hastily booted up =
>Paris with=20
>a Mec half plugged in and sparks flew.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>That mec is unrepairable. We =
>tried. It smoked=20
>a chip in the Master section</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>labeled fP94AD</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial=20
>size=3D2> =20
>DM74LS</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial=20
>size=3D2> =20
>244WM</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I bought 10 of them (SN74LS244DW) at =
>Digikey.com=20
>for short money.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>After this point I could never get the
=
>clock lights=20
>to lock or Paris to work with or without the</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Lucid involved. My tech was right =
>in assuming=20
>the same chip was fried across</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>all of the other Mecs. I later =
>realized that=20
>a bent pin on 2 x SCSI 2 cables were</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>probably frying that same chip in every
=
>Mec I=20
>bought and tried (no smoke though).</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Fast forward. During all of this =
>I removed=20
>the Magma, Lucid and the main Paris computer.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I built a new (old) Paris computer =
>using=20
>Dimitrios' Root C installation. This has to be =
>helping.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I also eliminated Pace. I have =
>installed=20
>everything including 4 EDS and a UAD into this computer</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>along with more quality plugins than my
=
>previous=20
>rig. It is stable and very powerful.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The chip that was stated =
>above has been=20
>the cure all for all of the fried Mecs except the</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>first that actually saw sparks. =
>So if your=20
>clock stops locking on a Mec this chip may be your savior.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It only takes a little over an hour for
=
>the whole=20
>job once you've done it a couple of times.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks to all that helped me through =
>this namely=20
>Mike Audet, Rod Lincoln, my tech Dave Matheson,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jon Jiles, Paul Artola, Justin =
>LaPierre, Dimitrios,=20
>Deej, Kim and one other person that I bought a Mec =
>from</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>whose name escapes me.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks to this whole group for all your
=
>
>answers!</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Bottom line - a</FONT><FONT =
>face=3DArial=20
>size=3D2>ll is better than ever in Paris.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom B.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV></DIV>
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| Re: A FYI regarding my Paris troubles and resolutions. [message #93399 is a reply to message #93393] |
Thu, 06 December 2007 23:14 |
Tom Bruhl
Messages: 1368
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Ya you guys, I felt like I was blind sided by all of this. Very
remeniscent of my first year with Paris, two mecs but no
2nd mec activity. The 'connect it to the last EDS card' issue
that know one at EMU new the answer to. Unreal. Anyway...
I now have a spare magma and a healthy P4 3.0 comp waiting=20
in the wings for the next catastrophe.
Thanks again for your support!
Tom
"Jon Jiles" <nojij@yahoo.com> wrote in message =
news:4758da71$1@linux...
Tom - that's great news man!! Glad you finally got everything all =
dialed in!!
Cheers,
Jon
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>To all that helped or are just interested,
>
>You may recall in July I had a major league meltdown
>of my 5 card/Magma/2 Mec, Lucid WC system.
>
>I tried adding two more Mecs with a Mixer Mixer to allow
>4 aux buses to tie together. As soon as I tied Mec #3 into
>the mix Paris wouldn't boot. Later I was taught me to remove the
>Paris Default Project from the Paris folder to help this situation.
>
>I then hastily booted up Paris with a Mec half plugged in and sparks =
=3D
>flew.
>That mec is unrepairable. We tried. It smoked a chip in the Master =
=3D
>section
>labeled fP94AD
> DM74LS
> 244WM
>I bought 10 of them (SN74LS244DW) at Digikey.com for short money.
>
>After this point I could never get the clock lights to lock or Paris =
to
=3D
>work with or without the
>Lucid involved. My tech was right in assuming the same chip was =
fried =3D
>across
>all of the other Mecs. I later realized that a bent pin on 2 x SCSI =
2 =3D
>cables were
>probably frying that same chip in every Mec I bought and tried (no =
smoke
=3D
>though).
>
>Fast forward. During all of this I removed the Magma, Lucid and the =
=3D
>main Paris computer.
>I built a new (old) Paris computer using Dimitrios' Root C =
installation.
=3D
> This has to be helping.
>I also eliminated Pace. I have installed everything including 4 EDS =
and
=3D
>a UAD into this computer
>along with more quality plugins than my previous rig. It is stable =
and
=3D
>very powerful.
>
>The chip that was stated above has been the cure all for all of the =
=3D
>fried Mecs except the
>first that actually saw sparks. So if your clock stops locking on a =
Mec
=3D
>this chip may be your savior.
>It only takes a little over an hour for the whole job once you've =
done =3D
>it a couple of times.
>
>Thanks to all that helped me through this namely Mike Audet, Rod =3D
>Lincoln, my tech Dave Matheson,
>Jon Jiles, Paul Artola, Justin LaPierre, Dimitrios, Deej, Kim and one =
=3D
>other person that I bought a Mec from
>whose name escapes me.
>
>Thanks to this whole group for all your answers!
>
>Bottom line - all is better than ever in Paris.
>Tom B.
>
>
>
>
>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
>
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><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>To all that helped or are =
just=3D20
>interested,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>You may recall in July I had a =
major =3D
>league=3D20
>meltdown</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>of my 5 card/Magma/2 Mec, =
Lucid=3D20
>WC system.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I tried adding two more Mecs =
with a =3D
>Mixer Mixer to=3D20
>allow</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>4 aux buses to tie together. As =
=3D
>soon as I=3D20
>tied Mec #3 into</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>the mix Paris wouldn't =3D
>boot. Later I=3D20
>was taught me to remove the</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Paris Default Project from the =
Paris =3D
>folder to help=3D20
>this situation.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I then hastily booted up =3D
>Paris with=3D20
>a Mec half plugged in and sparks flew.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>That mec is unrepairable. We =3D
>tried. It smoked=3D20
>a chip in the Master section</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>labeled fP94AD</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=3D20
>size=3D3D2> =3D20
>DM74LS</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=3D20
>size=3D3D2> =3D20
>244WM</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I bought 10 of them =
(SN74LS244DW) at =3D
>Digikey.com=3D20
>for short money.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>After this point I could never =
get the
=3D
>clock lights=3D20
>to lock or Paris to work with or without the</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Lucid involved. My tech was =
right =3D
>in assuming=3D20
>the same chip was fried across</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>all of the other Mecs. I later =
=3D
>realized that=3D20
>a bent pin on 2 x SCSI 2 cables were</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>probably frying that same chip =
in every
=3D
>Mec I=3D20
>bought and tried (no smoke though).</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Fast forward. During all of =
this =3D
>I removed=3D20
>the Magma, Lucid and the main Paris computer.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I built a new (old) Paris =
computer =3D
>using=3D20
>Dimitrios' Root C installation. This has to be =3D
>helping.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I also eliminated Pace. I have =
=3D
>installed=3D20
>everything including 4 EDS and a UAD into this computer</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>along with more quality plugins =
than my
=3D
>previous=3D20
>rig. It is stable and very powerful.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>The chip that was stated =3D
>above has been=3D20
>the cure all for all of the fried Mecs except the</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>first that actually saw sparks. =
=3D
>So if your=3D20
>clock stops locking on a Mec this chip may be your =
savior.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>It only takes a little over an =
hour for
=3D
>the whole=3D20
>job once you've done it a couple of times.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Thanks to all that helped me =
through =3D
>this namely=3D20
>Mike Audet, Rod Lincoln, my tech Dave Matheson,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Jon Jiles, Paul Artola, Justin =
=3D
>LaPierre, Dimitrios,=3D20
>Deej, Kim and one other person that I bought a Mec =3D
>from</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>whose name escapes =
me.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Thanks to this whole group for =
all your
=3D
>
>answers!</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Bottom line - a</FONT><FONT =3D
>face=3D3DArial=3D20
>size=3D3D2>ll is better than ever in Paris.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tom B.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV></DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
spam, =3D
>and=3D20
>you?<BR><A=3D20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ya you guys, I felt like I was blind =
sided by=20
all of this. Very</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>remeniscent of my first year with =
Paris, two=20
mecs but no</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>2nd mec activity. The 'connect it =
to the last=20
EDS card' issue</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>that know one at EMU new the answer =
to. =20
Unreal. Anyway...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I now have a spare magma and a healthy =
P4 3.0 comp=20
waiting </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>in the wings for the next =
catastrophe.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks again for your =
support!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV>"Jon Jiles" <<A =
href=3D"mailto:nojij@yahoo.com">nojij@yahoo.com</A>>=20
wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:4758da71$1@linux">news:4758da71$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Tom =
-=20
that's great news man!! Glad you finally got everything all dialed=20
in!!<BR><BR>Cheers,<BR>Jon<BR><BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>To all that helped or are just=20
interested,<BR>><BR>>You may recall in July I had a major league =
meltdown<BR>>of my 5 card/Magma/2 Mec, Lucid WC =
system.<BR>><BR>>I=20
tried adding two more Mecs with a Mixer Mixer to allow<BR>>4 aux =
buses to=20
tie together. As soon as I tied Mec #3 into<BR>>the mix Paris =
wouldn't boot. Later I was taught me to remove the<BR>>Paris =
Default=20
Project from the Paris folder to help this situation.<BR>><BR>>I =
then=20
hastily booted up Paris with a Mec half plugged in and sparks=20
=3D<BR>>flew.<BR>>That mec is unrepairable. We tried. It =
smoked a=20
chip in the Master =3D<BR>>section<BR>>labeled=20
=
fP94AD<BR> > &a mp;nbsp;  =
;=20
=
DM74LS<BR> > &a mp;nbsp;  =
;=20
244WM<BR>>I bought 10 of them (SN74LS244DW) at Digikey.com for =
short=20
money.<BR>><BR>>After this point I could never get the clock =
lights to=20
lock or Paris to<BR>=3D<BR>>work with or without the<BR>>Lucid=20
involved. My tech was right in assuming the same chip was fried=20
=3D<BR>>across<BR>>all of the other Mecs. I later realized =
that a=20
bent pin on 2 x SCSI 2 =3D<BR>>cables were<BR>>probably frying =
that same=20
chip in every Mec I bought and tried (no=20
smoke<BR>=3D<BR>>though).<BR>><BR>>Fast forward. During =
all of=20
this I removed the Magma, Lucid and the =3D<BR>>main Paris =
computer.<BR>>I=20
built a new (old) Paris computer using Dimitrios' Root C=20
installation.<BR>=3D<BR>> This has to be helping.<BR>>I also =
eliminated=20
Pace. I have installed everything including 4 EDS =
and<BR>=3D<BR>>a UAD=20
into this computer<BR>>along with more quality plugins than my =
previous=20
rig. It is stable and<BR>=3D<BR>>very =
powerful.<BR>><BR>>The chip=20
that was stated above has been the cure all for all of the =
=3D<BR>>fried Mecs=20
except the<BR>>first that actually saw sparks. So if your =
clock stops=20
locking on a Mec<BR>=3D<BR>>this chip may be your savior.<BR>>It =
only=20
takes a little over an hour for the whole job once you've done =
=3D<BR>>it a=20
couple of times.<BR>><BR>>Thanks to all that helped me through =
this=20
namely Mike Audet, Rod =3D<BR>>Lincoln, my tech Dave =
Matheson,<BR>>Jon=20
Jiles, Paul Artola, Justin LaPierre, Dimitrios, Deej, Kim and one=20
=3D<BR>>other person that I bought a Mec from<BR>>whose name =
escapes=20
me.<BR>><BR>>Thanks to this whole group for all your=20
answers!<BR>><BR>>Bottom line - all is better than ever in=20
Paris.<BR>>Tom B.<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR >>I choose =
Polesoft=20
Lockspam to fight spam, and=20
you?<BR>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
<BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=20
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bgColor=3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
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all that helped or are=20
=
just=3D20<BR> >interested,</FONT></DIV> <BR>><DIV>&=
lt;FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>You may recall in July I had a major=20
=
=3D<BR>>league=3D20<BR>>meltdown</FONT></DIV> <BR>>&l=
t;DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>of my 5 card/Magma/2 Mec, =
Lucid=3D20<BR>>WC=20
system.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>I tried adding two more Mecs with a =3D<BR>>Mixer =
Mixer=20
=
to=3D20<BR>>allow</FONT></DIV> <BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>4 aux buses to tie together. As =
=3D<BR>>soon=20
as I=3D20<BR>>tied Mec #3=20
into</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>the mix Paris wouldn't =3D<BR>>boot. Later =
I=3D20<BR>>was=20
taught me to remove =
the</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Paris Default Project from the Paris =
=3D<BR>>folder=20
to help=3D20<BR>>this=20
situation.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>I then hastily booted up =3D<BR>>Paris =
with=3D20<BR>>a Mec half=20
plugged in and sparks=20
flew.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>That mec is unrepairable. We =3D<BR>>tried. It=20
smoked=3D20<BR>>a chip in the Master=20
section</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>labeled =
fP94AD</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
=
face=3D3DArial=3D20<BR> >size=3D3D2> & ;nbsp; &n=
bsp; =20
=
=3D20<BR>>DM74LS</FONT></DIV> <BR>><DIV><FONT=20
=
face=3D3DArial=3D20<BR> >size=3D3D2> & ;nbsp; &n=
bsp; =20
=3D20<BR>>244WM</FONT></DIV> <BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I bought 10 of them (SN74LS244DW) at=20
=3D<BR>>Digikey.com=3D20<BR>>for short=20
money.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>After this point I could never get =
the<BR>=3D<BR>>clock=20
lights=3D20<BR>>to lock or Paris to work with or without=20
the</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
size=3D3D2>Lucid involved. My tech was right =3D<BR>>in=20
assuming=3D20<BR>>the same chip was fried=20
across</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>all of the other Mecs. I later =3D<BR>>realized =
that=3D20<BR>>a bent pin on 2 x SCSI 2 cables=20
were</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>probably frying that same chip in =
every<BR>=3D<BR>>Mec=20
I=3D20<BR>>bought and tried (no smoke=20
though).</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>Fast forward. During all of this =3D<BR>>I=20
removed=3D20<BR>>the Magma, Lucid and the main Paris=20
computer.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>I built a new (old) Paris computer=20
=3D<BR>>using=3D20<BR>>Dimitrios' Root C installation. =
This has to be=20
=
=3D<BR>>helping.</FONT></DIV> <BR>><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I also eliminated Pace. I have=20
=3D<BR>>installed=3D20<BR>>everything including 4 EDS and a UAD =
into this=20
computer</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>along with more quality plugins than=20
my<BR>=3D<BR>>previous=3D20<BR>>rig. It is stable and very =
powerful.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>The chip that was stated =3D<BR>>above has =
been=3D20<BR>>the=20
cure all for all of the fried Mecs except=20
the</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
size=3D3D2>first that actually saw sparks. =3D<BR>>So if=20
your=3D20<BR>>clock stops locking on a Mec this chip may be your=20
savior.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>It only takes a little over an hour =
for<BR>=3D<BR>>the=20
whole=3D20<BR>>job once you've done it a couple of=20
times.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>Thanks to all that helped me through =3D<BR>>this=20
namely=3D20<BR>>Mike Audet, Rod Lincoln, my tech Dave=20
Matheson,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>Jon Jiles, Paul Artola, Justin =3D<BR>>LaPierre,=20
Dimitrios,=3D20<BR>>Deej, Kim and one other person that I bought a =
Mec=20
=3D<BR>>from</FONT></DIV> <BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>whose name escapes=20
me.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
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size=3D3D2>Thanks to this whole group for all=20
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size=3D3D2>Bottom line - a</FONT><FONT=20
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Paris.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
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size=3D3D2>Tom =
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size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
spam,=20
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=3D<BR>>and=3D20<BR>>you?<BR><A=3D20 <BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
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href=3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
'>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer</A=
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