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| Re: Wormhole_buying_list_discount_sign-up? [message #59629 is a reply to message #59625] |
Fri, 28 October 2005 04:37   |
Don Nafe
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gt;>out the thread at gearsluts.com under "New product alert!", Important you
>>start with the Toft thread. The whole Toft, Oram , trident war almost
started
>>again, the thread gets heated.
>>
>>Check out the specs.
>>
>>http://www.toftaudiodesigns.com/
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>> http://aes.harmony-central.com/119AES/Content/Toft_Audio/PR/ ADB-Consoles.html
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>>http://www.oram.co.uk/
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>>James
>Yep, it's got the trident name, and a couple of nice transformers on the mix
bus, but it's not discrete or class A, so it's not going to sound anything
like a classic console. If you want a great front end for relatively cheap,
look at the Shadow Hills 8-channel pre.
"cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote in message news:43622744$1@linux...
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> I have heard not so great things about the new Trident stuff from more
> than
> a few.
> I thought that little mixer they made looked cool, but I heard it did not
> sound anything like the classic trident stuff. Flecther seems to not liek
> the Pre to much in that little Toft channel strip.
>
>
> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>The mic pre on the Toft will be using a Burr Brown OP Amp mic pre, the
>>same
>>as the Toft ATC-2. The rest of the console will be Trident 80B. Allen
> Hyatt
>>talks about all of the features though the thread. 56 channels at mix
>>down
>>on the 16 ch. model and 72 on the 24 ch. model, this thing should rock!
>
>>There is also a 32 Ch. version coming out. I think I know what my next
> analog
>>console will be: ) I can't wait to hear them.
>>
>>James
>>
>>
>>
>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>>>This is going to be great!!!
>>>
>>>Well it looks like Malcolm Toft and John Oram are going toe to toe with
>>new
>>>versions of the Trident 80b console. The k
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| Re: Wormhole_buying_list_discount_sign-up? [message #59630 is a reply to message #59625] |
Fri, 28 October 2005 05:32 |
Brandon
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iller thing is the 16 ch.
>>>versions
>>>are going to cost around $2,500.00. The Toft console also has an
>>>optional
>>>digital I/O card. Can you say, killer front end for my Paris rig???
>>>Check
>>>out the thread at gearsluts.com under "New product alert!", Important you
>>>start with the Toft thread. The whole Toft, Oram , trident war almost
> started
>>>again, the thread gets heated.
>>>
>>>Check out the specs.
>>>
>>>http://www.toftaudiodesigns.com/
>>>
>>> http://aes.harmony-central.com/119AES/Content/Toft_Audio/PR/ ADB-Consoles.html
>>>
>>>http://www.oram.co.uk/
>>>
>>>James
>>
>Yeah, I'm thinking of adding a Mono gama to my API rack
They have a board coming out that is around 12,000
DO you have the 8 channel?
"benjamin" <none@a.a> wrote:
>Yep, it's got the trident name, and a couple of nice transformers on the
mix
>bus, but it's not discrete or class A, so it's not going to sound anything
>like a classic console. If you want a great front end for relatively cheap,
>look at the Shadow Hills 8-channel pre.
>
>"cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote in message news:43622744$1@linux...
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>> I have heard not so great things about the new Trident stuff from more
>> than
>> a few.
>> I thought that little mixer they made looked cool, but I heard it did
not
>> sound anything like the classic trident stuff. Flecther seems to not liek
>> the Pre to much in that little Toft channel strip.
>>
>>
>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>The mic pre on the Toft will be using a Burr Brown OP Amp mic pre, the
>>>same
>>>as the Toft ATC-2. The rest of th
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| Re: Wormhole_buying_list_discount_sign-up? [message #59631 is a reply to message #59630] |
Fri, 28 October 2005 05:51 |
Brandon
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e console will be Trident 80B. Allen
>> Hyatt
>>>talks about all of the features though the thread. 56 channels at mix
>>>down
>>>on the 16 ch. model and 72 on the 24 ch. model, this thing should rock!
>>
>>>There is also a 32 Ch. version coming out. I think I know what my next
>> analog
>>>console will be: ) I can't wait to hear them.
>>>
>>>James
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>This is going to be great!!!
>>>>
>>>>Well it looks like Malcolm Toft and John Oram are going toe to toe with
>>>new
>>>>versions of the Trident 80b console. The killer thing is the 16 ch.
>>>>versions
>>>>are going to cost around $2,500.00. The Toft console also has an
>>>>optional
>>>>digital I/O card. Can you say, killer front end for my Paris rig???
>>>>Check
>>>>out the thread at gearsluts.com under "New product alert!", Important
you
>>>>start with the Toft thread. The whole Toft, Oram , trident war almost
>> started
>>>>again, the thread gets heated.
>>>>
>>>>Check out the specs.
>>>>
>>>>http://www.toftaudiodesigns.com/
>>>>
>>>> http://aes.harmony-central.com/119AES/Content/Toft_Audio/PR/ ADB-Consoles.html
>>>>
>>>>http://www.oram.co.uk/
>>>>
>>>>James
>>>
>>
>
>Glad you like them, Tom. I think they are
a fantastic value. I use my 46's over my Royers
all the time, especially on electric guitars. I
know Darren Rahn for the group here got a pair
also and is verry pleased, too. Even the unmatched,
stock transformer 46's are pretty nice :)
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
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>Had a project that called for tenor sax, vocals
>and a little egg shakin'.
>
>Used 'em on everything through the Precision 8
>with really great results.
>
>The best words to describe them are natural and not hyped.
>to remove the room coming off the backside of the figure 8.
>Vocals didn't need compression. I was singing and watching
>levels so that made this possible. They did seem slightly
>compressed sounding though. Even when the wave got
>squared off in Paris it didn't gack or even sound clipped.
>I rerecorded those s
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| Re: Wormhole_buying_list_discount_sign-up? [message #59640 is a reply to message #59625] |
Fri, 28 October 2005 09:17 |
Carl Amburn
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gt; >
> > ;o)
> >
> >
> > "EK Sound" <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote in message
> > news:433b6415$1@linux...
> >
> >>UAD and Wavelab don't like each other much... but they will work. You
> >>just have to make sure not to adjust any plug perimeters while playing
> >>audio, and close the plug window before playing. PITA, but it works.
> >> I use WL4 here like that all the time. The main difference between
> >>WL4/5 and Essential is that there are only two lanes in the montage
> >>window in Essential. I generally render the montage to a solid wave
> >>first then add plugs and markers.
> >>
> >>David.
> >>I'll give my opinion. The Toft mixer has more features and input than the
Oram, and is projected to cost less, possibly closer to $2,000.00! The production
model doesn't even exist yet, so we will have to see how good or bad it is.
having said that, I will go out on a limb here. There has never been an
analog mixer of this quality at this price point. This will be a great mixer
for project studios, and pro studios. This will be a more pro mixer at a
project mixer price. They don't use components like this in Mackie mixers
or A&H. This is a different level. Of course this all remains to be seen!
My guess is the bad stuff your hearing about the new Trident is about the
Oram Trident, which IMHO doesn't surprise me. But I think you should hear
the stuff for yourself.
As for Fletcher, well he has a tendency to be harsh and overly critical at
times, he is a self proclaimed audio snob! He did post a retraction of
sorts about the Toft mic pres, he actually likes them! I believe he was
comparing the Toft to much more expensive mic pres. Allen Hyett posted Fletcher's
retraction/explanation in the thread, you'll have to look for it and read
it for yourself.
I know I made a comment about it being a great front end for Paris. My thinking
is that it will beat something like a Mackie, not a high end mic pre. With
16 high quality mic pres, 56 ch. of input for mixing down keyboards etc.,
8 busses, and a digital I/O option, at $2,000.00 it's hard to beat for what
it is. The 8 ch Shadow Hills pre is a vary nice piece, it also cost about
twice as much as the mixer I'm talking about, and you ca
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| Re: Wormhole_buying_list_discount_sign-up? [message #59645 is a reply to message #59640] |
Fri, 28 October 2005 11:32 |
Rod Lincoln
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>>>>>
>>>>>http://www.oram.co.uk/
>>>>>
>>>>>James
>>>>
>>>
>>
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James,
UV meters are something new. Might keep the
studio tan in check.
T.
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message =
news:43626f92$1@linux...
In my last post it should have read 56 input x8x2. =20
Although it is speculation on my part, I'm betting the toft mic pres =
are
going to be much better than the Oram mic pres on their version of the =
mixer.
Read the thread on gearsluts.com Allen Hyett tells what components =
they
are going to use in the Toft mixer. They also made customer changes =
on the
mixer design since the thread started. They added a mono switch, UV =
meters
and other things. It's amazing that a company would listen to =
customer requests
and make immediate changes to the design! Check it out.
James
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>I'll give my opinion. The Toft mixer has more features and input =
than the
>Oram, and is projected to cost less, possibly closer to $2,000.00! =
The
production
>model doesn't even exist yet, so we will have to see how good or bad =
it
is.
> having said that, I will go out on a limb here. There has never =
been an
>analog mixer of this quality at this price point. This will be a =
great
mixer
>for project studios, and pro studios. This will be a more pro mixer =
at
a
>project mixer price. They don't use components like this in Mackie =
mixers
>or A&H. This is a different level. Of course this all remains to be =
seen!
>=20
>
>My guess is the bad stuff your hearing about the new Trident is about =
the
>Oram Trident, which IMHO doesn't surprise me. But I think you should =
hear
>the stuff for yourself.
>
>As for Fletcher, well he has a tendency to be harsh and overly =
critical
at
>times, he is a self proclaimed audio snob! He did post a retraction =
of
>sorts about the Toft mic pres, he actually likes them! I believe he =
was
>comparing the Toft to much more expensive mic pres. Allen Hyett =
posted
Fletcher's
>retraction/explanation in the thread, you'll have to look for it and =
read
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| Re: Wormhole_buying_list_discount_sign-up? [message #59649 is a reply to message #59625] |
Fri, 28 October 2005 11:56 |
Tony Benson
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gt; >Don't rule this one out yet, it could turn out to really be a =
>contender!
> >
> >James
> >
> >"benjamin" <none@a.a> wrote:
> >>Yep, it's got the trident name, and a couple of nice transformers on
=
>the
> >mix=20
> >>bus, but it's not discrete or class A, so it's not going to sound =
>anything
> >
> >>like a classic console. If you want a great front end for relatively
=
>cheap,
> >
> >>look at the Shadow Hills 8-channel pre.
> >>
> >>"cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote in message =
>news:43622744$1@linux...
> >>>
> >>> I have heard not so great things about the new Trident stuff from
=
>more
> >
> >>> than
> >>> a few.
> >>> I thought that little mixer they made looked cool, but I heard it
=
>did
> >not
> >>> sound anything like the classic trident stuff. Flecther seems to =
>not
> liek
> >>> the Pre to much in that little Toft channel strip.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>The mic pre on the Toft will be using a Burr Brown OP Amp mic pre,
=
>the
> >
> >>>>same
> >>>>as the Toft ATC-2. The rest of the console will be Trident 80B.
=
>Allen
> >>> Hyatt
> >>>>talks about all of the features though the thread. 56 channels at
=
>mix
> >
> >>>>down
> >>>>on the 16 ch. model and 72 on the 24 ch. model, this thing should
=
>rock!
> >>>
> >>>>There is also a 32 Ch. version coming out. I think I know what my
=
>next
> >>> analog
> >>>>console will be: ) I can't wait to hear them.
> >>>>
> >>>>James
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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| Re: Wormhole_buying_list_discount_sign-up? [message #59655 is a reply to message #59642] |
Sat, 29 October 2005 10:59 |
Dimitrios
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br />
TC wrote:
> Hey Dimitrios,
>
> I think he was joking, it was a pun at Brandon's wording of "I will buy
> Dimitrios"
>
> Meaning he will purchase you, Dimitrios, with cash money, not anything
> to do with wormhole..
>
> Cheers,
>
> TC
>
> Dimitrios wrote:
>
>> Dear Rick,
>> I am really dissapointed in your post.
>> If you don't care buying thats ok but saying that it is slavery to buy
>> something
>> that is so innovative for Paris and not only and considering the som many
>> hours spent to make things smooth for Paris and wormhole as much as
>> possible
>> without me being involved at all in the sales of this plugin that really
>> makes me feel sad.
>> I was hoping that you at least would appreciatte all the efoorts here and
>> that wouild be supporting those nice and cheap plugins that help Paris .
>> I see people here payinmg 250 $ for a single adat card so for 3 adat
>> cards
>> 750 $.
>> plus a Mec 150$ almost a 1000 $ to just have 24 adat 20 bit tracks
>> from one
>> PC to another.
>> Now a simple plugin lets you have 24 bit (or 32bit floating until you use
>> Paris dsp ) of 24 audio tracks for a normal 2600 Ghz cpu.
>> So if you think that I am giving you guys a hard time then sorry I
>> will stop
>> what I am doing these last months.
>> thanks to all of you anyway.
>> Regards,
>> Dimitrios
>>
>> rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> "i will buy Dimitrios"...dude...that's slavery...even in a non pc
>>> correct society.
>>>
>>> On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 07:32:03 -0500, "Brandon"
>>> <brandon_goodwin@REMOVETHISsbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> i will buy Dimitrios.
>>>> brandon
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message
>>>> news:4361ea71$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>>> Hello to everyone.
>>>>> After my last conversation with Adrian -wormhole's author- I have
>>>>> concluded
>>>>> that wormhole is not selling well ( where are we guys ?) so maybe
>>>>> major
>>
>>
>>
>>>>> updates
>>>>> will get longer to support as he has to concentrate his efforts to
>>>>> "selling"
>>>>> appz.
>>>>> I wonder how we Parisians expect plugin authors like Adrian to support
>>
>>
>>
>>>>> plugins
>>>>> like wormhole which are a godsend for Paris with tremendous present
>>>>> and
>>
>>
>>
>>>>> future
>>>>> possibilities... (he is thinking of making wormhole lighter so to have
>>
>>
>>
>>>>> even
>>>>> more instances).
>>>>> I don't see us people here supporting wormhole and that makes me sad
>>
>>
>> and
>>
>>>>> maybe all my efforts toward this direction will fail somehow.
>>>>> If we don't buy it how can we ask him for this and that ?
>>>>> Even two or three buys would not justify major -Paris oriented-
>>>>> updates
>>
>>
>>
>>>>> with
>>>>> wormhole...
>>>>> Please sign here if you care for using wormhole even as two channel
>>>>> cross
>>>>> bridge beetween two computers (NOTE IT CAN BE USED ON SAME COMPUTER
>>>>> WITH
>>>>> DIFFERE
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| Re: Wormhole_buying_list_discount_sign-up? [message #59656 is a reply to message #59655] |
Sat, 29 October 2005 09:59 |
TC
Messages: 327
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NT APPZ TOO).
>>>>> If we sign enouph people here (enouph depends I would say 10 and over
>>
>>
>> I
>>
>>>>> will
>>>>> kindly ask for a small discount for mass purchase.
>>>>> Please try wormhole and see for yourself how great this plugin is.
>>>>> We need Adrian (convince him make appz suited to Paris) and we
>>>>> certainly
>>>>> need wormhole.
>>>>> It will keep Paris alive for things to come no matter where audio
>>>>> technology
>>>>> will go.
>>>>> You will always have Paris thus connected with modern pc's doing what
>>
>>
>> it
>>
>>>>> is known to do best, sounding good when summing...
>>>>> Please forgive me if I am being so pushy with this but noone else
>>>>> except
>>>>> for Adrian (till now) has showed so much interest to help us ,Paris
>>
>>
>>
>>>>> users.
>>>>> I wanna convince him make an automatic LATENCY compensator for VST
>>>>> plugins
>>>>> which I think would be great if succeeded.
>>>>> Believe me if only two-three Paris users will sign this I will be
>>>>> having
>>>>> no guts to ask him that or anything else.
>>>>> This plugin sells for 49 $ only...
>>>>> Please respond with signing also.
>>>>> With regards,
>>>>> Dimitrios
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>Hey if it hasn't been said Dimitrios
Thanks for your unending efforts to keep this DAW of ours relevant
Don
"EK Sound" <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote in message
news:4363adea@linux...
> That's a problem with an international forum... subtleties get lost in
> translation. Yes, Rick WAS joking at Brandon's poor grammar! :-)
>
> David.
>
> TC wrote:
>> Hey Dimitrios,
>>
>> I think he was joking, it was a pun at Brandon's wording of "I will buy
>> Dimitrios"
>>
>> Meaning he will purchase you, Dimitrios, with cash money, not anything
>> to do with wormhole..
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> TC
>>
>> Dimitrios wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Rick,
>>> I am really dissapointed in your post.
>>> If you don't care buying thats ok but saying that it is slavery to buy
>>> something
>>> that is so innovative for Paris and not only and considering the som
>>> many
>>> hours spent to make things smooth for Paris and wormhole as much as
>>> possible
>>> without me being involved at all in the sales of this plugin that really
>>> makes me feel sad.
>>> I was hoping that you at least would appreciatte all the efoorts here
>>> and
>>> that wouild be supporting those nice and cheap plugins that help Paris .
>>> I see people here payinmg 250 $ for a single adat card so for 3 adat
>>> cards
>>> 750 $.
>>> plus a Mec 150$ almost a 1000 $ to just have 24 adat 20 bit tracks from
>>> one
>>> PC to another.
>>> Now a simple plugin lets you have 24 bit (or 32bit floating until you
>>> use
>>> Paris dsp ) of 24 audio tracks for a normal 2600 Ghz cpu.
>>> So if you think that I am giving you guys a hard time then sorry I will
>>> stop
>>> what I am doing these last months.
>>> thanks to all of you anyway.
>>> Regards,
>>> Dimitrios
>>>
>>> rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "i will buy Dimitrios"...dude...that's slavery...even in a non pc
>>>> correct society.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 07:32:03 -0500, "Brandon"
>>>> <brandon_goodwin@REMOVETHISsbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> i will buy Dimitrios.
>>>>> brandon
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message
>>>>> news:4361ea71$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello to everyone.
>>>>&
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| Re: Wormhole_buying_list_discount_sign-up? [message #59657 is a reply to message #59656] |
Sat, 29 October 2005 10:10 |
EK Sound
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gt;> After my last conversation with Adrian -wormhole's author- I have
>>>>>> concluded
>>>>>> that wormhole is not selling well ( where are we guys ?) so maybe
>>>>>> major
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> updates
>>>>>> will get longer to support as he has to concentrate his efforts to
>>>>>> "selling"
>>>>>> appz.
>>>>>> I wonder how we Parisians expect plugin authors like Adrian to
>>>>>> support
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> plugins
>>>>>> like wormhole which are a godsend for Paris with tremendous present
>>>>>> and
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> future
>>>>>> possibilities... (he is thinking of making wormhole lighter so to
>>>>>> have
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> even
>>>>>> more instances).
>>>>>> I don't see us people here supporting wormhole and that makes me sad
>>>
>>>
>>> and
>>>
>>>>>> maybe all my efforts toward this direction will fail somehow.
>>>>>> If we don't buy it how can we ask him for this and that ?
>>>>>> Even two or three buys would not justify major -Paris oriented-
>>>>>> updates
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> wormhole...
>>>>>> Please sign here if you care for using wormhole even as two channel
>>>>>> cross
>>>>>> bridge beetween two computers (NOTE IT CAN BE USED ON SAME COMPUTER
>>>>>> WITH
>>>>>> DIFFERENT APPZ TOO).
>>>>>> If we sign enouph people here (enouph depends I would say 10 and over
>>>
>>>
>>> I
>>>
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> kindly ask for a small discount for mass purchase.
>>>>>> Please try wormhole and see for yourself how great this plugin is.
>>>>>> We need Adrian (convince him make appz suited to Paris) and we
>>>>>> certainly
>>>>>> need wormhole.
>>>>>> It will keep Paris alive for things to come no matter where audio
>>>>>> technology
>>>>>> will go.
>>>>>> You will always have Paris thus connected with modern pc's doing what
>>>
>>>
>>> it
>>>
>>>>>> is known to do best, sounding good when summing...
>>>>>> Please forgive me if I am being so pushy with this but noone else
>>>>>> except
>>>>>> for Adrian (till now) has showed so much interest to help us ,Paris
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> users.
>>>>>> I wanna convince him make an automatic LATENCY compensator for VST
>>>>>> plugins
>>>>>> which I think would be great if succeeded.
>>>>>> Believe me if only two-three Paris users will sign this I will be
>>>>>> having
>>>>>> no guts to ask him that or anything else.
>>>>>> This plugin sells for 49 $ only...
>>>>>> Please respond with signing also.
>>>>>> With regards,
>>>>>> Dimitrios
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>I'm gonna buy this, I guess. I'll probably never use it, but WTF???.....I've
got stuff laying all over this place that I've never used. Maybe one of
these days I'll decide to go back to Win XP and ditch these ADAT modules.
Not likely, but some other use might emerge.
Now where to I go to throw my money down a wormhole?
;o)
"EK Sound" <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote in message
news:4363adea@linux...
> That's a problem with an international forum... subtleties get lost in
> translation. Yes, Rick WAS joking at Brandon's poor grammar! :-)
>
> David.
>
> TC wrote:
> > Hey Dimitrios,
> >
> > I think he was joking, it was a pun at Brandon's wording of "I will buy
> > Dimitrios"
> >
> > Meaning he will purchase you, Dimitrios, with cash money, not anything
> > to do with wormhole..
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > TC
> >
> > Dimitrios wrote:
> >
> >> Dear Rick,
> >> I am really dissapointed in your post.
> >> If you don't care buying thats ok but saying that it is slavery to buy
> >> something
> >> that is so innovative for Paris and not only and considering the som
many
> >> hours spent to make things smooth for Paris and wormhole as much as
> >> possible
> >> without me being involved at all in the sales of this plugin that
really
> >> makes me feel sad.
> >> I was hoping that you at least would appreciatte all the efoorts here
and
> >> that wouild be supporting those nice and cheap plugins that help Paris
..
> >> I see people here payinmg 250 $ for a single adat card so for 3 adat
> >> cards
> >> 750 $.
> >> plus a Mec 150$ almost a 1000 $ to just have 24 adat 20 bit tracks
> >> from one
> >> PC to another.
> >> Now a simple plugin lets you have 24 bit (or 32bit floating until you
use
> >> Paris dsp ) of 24 audio tracks for a normal 2600 Ghz cpu.
> >> So if you think that I am gi
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| Re: Wormhole_buying_list_discount_sign-up? [message #59658 is a reply to message #59657] |
Sat, 29 October 2005 10:18 |
Don Nafe
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ving you guys a hard time then sorry I
> >> will stop
> >> what I am doing these last months.
> >> thanks to all of you anyway.
> >> Regards,
> >> Dimitrios
> >>
> >> rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> "i will buy Dimitrios"...dude...that's slavery...even in a non pc
> >>> correct society.
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 07:32:03 -0500, "Brandon"
> >>> <brandon_goodwin@REMOVETHISsbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> i will buy Dimitrios.
> >>>> brandon
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message
> >>>> news:4361ea71$1@linux...
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hello to everyone.
> >>>>> After my last conversation with Adrian -wormhole's author- I have
> >>>>> concluded
> >>>>> that wormhole is not selling well ( where are we guys ?) so maybe
> >>>>> major
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>>> updates
> >>>>> will get longer to support as he has to concentrate his efforts to
> >>>>> "selling"
> >>>>> appz.
> >>>>> I wonder how we Parisians expect plugin authors like Adrian to
support
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>>> plugins
> >>>>> like wormhole which are a godsend for Paris with tremendous present
> >>>>> and
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>>> future
> >>>>> possibilities... (he is thinking of making wormhole lighter so to
have
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>>> even
> >>>>> more instances).
> >>>>> I don't see us people here supporting wormhole and that makes me sad
> >>
> >>
> >> and
> >>
> >>>>> maybe all my efforts toward this direction will fail somehow.
> >>>>> If we don't buy it how can we ask him for this and that ?
> >>>>> Even two or three buys would not justify major -Paris oriented-
> >>>>> updates
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>>> with
> >>>>> wormhole...
> >>>>> Please sign here if you care for using wormhole even as two channel
> >>>>> cross
> >>>>> bridge beetween two computers (NOTE IT CAN BE USED ON SAME COMPUTER
> >>>>> WITH
> >>>>> DIFFERENT APPZ TOO).
> >>>>> If we sign enouph people here (enouph depends I would say 10 and
over
> >>
> >>
> >> I
> >>
> >>>>> will
> >>>>> kindly ask for a small discount for mass purchase.
> >>>>> Please try wormhole and see for yourself how great this plugin is.
> >>>>> We need Adrian (convince him make appz suited to Paris) and we
> >>>>> certainly
> >>>>> need wormhole.
> >>>>> It will keep Paris alive for things to come no matter where audio
> >>>>> technology
> >>>>> will go.
> >>>>> You will always have Paris thus connected with modern pc's doing
what
> >>
> >>
> >> it
> >>
> >>>>> is known to do best, sounding good when summing...
> >>>>> Please forgive me if I am being so pushy with this but noone else
> >>>>> except
> >>>>> for Adrian (till now) has showed so much interest to help us ,Paris
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>>> users.
> >>>>> I wanna convince him make an automatic LATENCY compensator for VST
> >>>>> plugins
> >>>>> which I think would be great if succeeded.
> >>>>> Believe me if only two-three Paris users will sign this I will be
> >>>>> having
> >>>>> no guts to ask him that or anything else.
> >>>>> This plugin sells for 49 $ only...
> >>>>> Please respond with signing also.
> >>>>> With regards,
> >>>>> Dimitrios
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> >>"rich" <studiodog@milwaukeerocks.com> wrote:
>
>Can you post a site or more information? I'm not clear on what this is
and/or
>what your using it for?
>
If you search this site for "wormhole":
http://tinyurl.com/afyz5
You will find it well covered.
Gene ;-)Hi, I'm a new user (almost) of a 20bit Paris system that came with EDS1000
card, MEC, C-16, cable and software. I got this system to record synth and
vocals. I haven't installed the card yet or the software, and have a 2.6Ghz
P4, 1GB mem, on an Abit IC7-G MB with 2 ATA 100 120G and 160G drives under
XP Pro. I also have a Peavy VMP-2 pre and NHT A10 monitors, mics, synth,
cables, etc. I'm not sure exactly how to hook up these components (is there
a diagram available anywhere) or if I will need other components besides
what I've listed above. Do I really need the 3.0 software? I have
downloaded the available files at Parisfaqs site.
Thanks much,
Ednahttp://www.crystalfiresw.com/products/wormhole.html
If not, let me know where.
Thanks,
DeejHi Edna.......
Welcome. This will involve loading drivers and installing hardware and
software obviously. There are detailed instructions on how to do this in the
Paris manual. The procedure is pretty straight forward and the system you
have should work fine for your needs. I don't see any red flags with your
comnputer other than the possibility of needing to tweak the operating
system parameters to optomize it for audio recording. Still, if you're not
going to be dealing with huge numbers of tracks, this may not even be
necessary. What operating system are you using? The software you have was
designed to run on Windows 98 Se or Windows ME. To use Paris with Windows XP
requires jumping through some adeditional hoops, but it's also pretty
straightforward, just more complicated. What i
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computers?
Regards,
Deej
"Edna Sloan" <edna@texomaonline.com> wrote in message news:4363b323@linux...
> Hi, I'm a new user (almost) of a 20bit Paris system that came with
EDS1000
> card, MEC, C-16, cable and software. I got this system to record synth
and
> vocals. I haven't installed the card yet or the software, and have a
2.6Ghz
> P4, 1GB mem, on an Abit IC7-G MB with 2 ATA 100 120G and 160G drives under
> XP Pro. I also have a Peavy VMP-2 pre and NHT A10 monitors, mics,
synth,
> cables, etc. I'm not sure exactly how to hook up these components (is
there
> a diagram available anywhere) or if I will need other components besides
> what I've listed above. Do I really need the 3.0 software? I have
> downloaded the available files at Parisfaqs site.
> Thanks much,
> Edna
>
>I'm ready to buy also, just want to make sure
where to do it and have him know it came from
this group...
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>http://www.crystalfiresw.com/products/wormhole.html
>
>If not, let me know where.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Deej
>
>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>http://www.crystalfiresw.com/products/wormhole.html
>
>If not, let me know where.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Deej
>
Here:
http://plasq.com/wormhole/Thanks Deej,
I always build my own computers, so am comfortable with whatever needs to be
done. I am currently running XP Pro with SP1, NTFS file sys. I use
different drives for apps and data storage on this computer - that I have
mainly used for video capture/editing/authoring/dvdburning. I have a 98SE
computer also, but prefer to use XP if possible.
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:4363b728@linux...
> Hi Edna.......
>
> Welcome. This will involve loading drivers and installing hardware and
> software obviously. There are detailed instructions on how to do this in
the
> Paris manual. The procedure is pretty straight forward and the system you
> have should work fine for your needs. I don't see any red flags with your
> comnputer other than the possibility of needing to tweak the operating
> system parameters to optomize it for audio recording. Still, if you're not
> going to be dealing with huge numbers of tracks, this may not even be
> necessary. What operating system are you using? The software you have was
> designed to run on Windows 98 Se or Windows ME. To use Paris with Windows
XP
> requires jumping through some adeditional hoops, but it's also pretty
> straightforward, just more complicated. What is your experience level with
> computers?
>
> Regards,
>
> Deej
>
> "Edna Sloan" <edna@texomaonline.com> wrote in message
news:4363b323@linux...
> > Hi, I'm a new user (almost) of a 20bit Paris system that came with
> EDS1000
> > card, MEC, C-16, cable and software. I got this system to record synth
> and
> > vocals. I haven't installed the card yet or the software, and have a
> 2.6Ghz
> > P4, 1GB mem, on an Abit IC7-G MB with 2 ATA 100 120G and 160G drives
under
> > XP Pro. I also have a Peavy VMP-2 pre and NHT A10 monitors, mics,
> synth,
> > cables, etc. I'm not sure exactly how to hook up these components (is
> there
> > a diagram available anywhere) or if I will need other components besides
> > what I've listed above. Do I really need the 3.0 software? I have
> > downloaded the available files at Parisfaqs site.
> > Thanks much,
> > Edna
> >
> >
>
>Dave Townsend died this week in California. Dave was best know as the guitar
player in the platinum R&B group "surface", but Dave was also a talented
session musician, songwriter and producer. I co-wrote and co-produced several
tracks with Dave over the years.
Dave was a quiet person and a true gentleman, and he will be missed.
He was 50 years old.
Dave's father, (Ed Townsend) was also a well know songwriter who's songs
included Marvin Gaye's 'Let's Get It On.'
Dave collaborated with many Paris owners in the last few years, including
myself, David “Pic” Conley (also from Surface), Thurman Phillips, and Joshua
Thompson. He was a big believer in the “Paris sound.”
Gene"Edna Sloan" <edna@texomaonline.com> wrote:
>Hi, I'm a new user (almost) of a 20bit Paris system that came with EDS1000
>card, MEC, C-16, cable and software. I got this system to record synth
and
>vocals. I haven't installed the card yet or the software, and have a 2.6Ghz
>P4, 1GB mem, on an Abit IC7-G MB with 2 ATA 100 120G and 160G drives under
>XP Pro. I also have a Peavy VMP-2 pre and NHT A10 monitors, mics, synth,
>cables, etc. I'm not sure exactly how to hook up these components (is there
>a diagram available anywhere) or if I will need other components besides
>what I've listed above. Do I really need the 3.0 software? I have
>downloaded the available files at Parisfaqs site.
>Thanks much,
>Edna
>
Welcome Edna,
Paris documentation is still available from:
http://www.emu.com/support/welcome.asp?centric=653
Paris was not officially updated for XP, so you will find no mention of later
operating systems in the docs.
Several of the users here have returned to 98se or ME after having mixed
results with XP.
I run a dual boot system that gives me both options, but I run 98 most of
the time for Paris.
GeneThanks Gene,
Quite a bit of documentation there - thank you. What do you avoid doing in
XP with Paris? Are you using Paris 3.0? or does it matter?
"gene lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:4363c51c$1@linux...
>
> "Edna Sloan" <edna@texomaonline.com> wrote:
> >Hi, I'm a new user (almost) of a 20bit Paris system that came with
EDS1000
> >card, MEC, C-16, cable and software. I got this system to record synth
> and
> >vocals. I haven't installed the card yet or the software, and have a
2.6Ghz
> >P4, 1GB mem, on an Abit IC7-G MB with 2 ATA 100 120G and 160G drives
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get longer to support as he has to concentrate his efforts to "selling"
>appz.
>I wonder how we Parisians expect plugin authors like Adrian to support plugins
>like wormhole which are a godsend for Paris with tremendous present and future
>possibilities... (he is thinking of making wormhole lighter so to have even
>more instances).
>I don't see us people here supporting wormhole and that makes me sad and
>maybe all my efforts toward this direction will fail somehow.
>If we don't buy it how can we ask him for this and that ?
>Even two or three buys would not justify major -Paris oriented- updates with
>wormhole...
>Please sign here if you care for using wormhole even as two channel cross
>bridge beetween two computers (NOTE IT CAN BE USED ON SAME COMPUTER WITH
>DIFFERENT APPZ TOO).
>If we sign enouph people here (enouph depends I would say 10 and over I will
>kindly ask for a small discount for mass purchase.
>Please try wormhole and see for yourself how great this plugin is.
>We need Adrian (convince him make appz suited to Paris) and we certainly
>need wormhole.
>It will keep Paris alive for things to come no matter where audio technology
>will go.
>You will always have Paris thus connected with modern pc's doing what it
>is known to do best, sounding good when summing...
>Please forgive me if I am being so pushy with this but noone else except
>for Adrian (till now) has showed so much interest to help us ,Paris users.
>I wanna convince him make an automatic LATENCY compensator for VST plugins
>which I think would be great if succeeded.
>Believe me if only two-three Paris users will sign this I will be having
>no guts to ask him that or anything else.
>This plugin sells for 49 $ only...
>Please respond with signing also.
>With regards,
>Dimitrios
>
>Best quote yet, a caption underneath a recent photo of Mr. Takei looking
particularly gay:
"Set phasers to FABULOUS!"
Jimmy
"AA" <no@spam.net> wrote in message news:43618a52@linux...
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> LOS ANGELES (AP) - George Takei, best known for his role as Mr. Sulu in
"Star
> Trek," came out as homosexual in the current issue of a magazine covering
> the Los Angeles gay and lesbian community. Takei told The Associated Press
> on Thursday that his new onstage role as psychologist Martin Dysart in
"Equus,"
> helped inspire him to publicly discuss his sexuality.
> Takei described the character as a "very contained but turbulently
frustrated
> man." The play opened Wednesday at the David Henry Hwang Theater in Los
Angeles,
> the same day that Frontiers magazine featured a story on Takei's coming
out.
> The current social and political climate also motivated Takei's
disclosure,
> he said.
> "The worl
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being
> gay," he said. "The issue of gay marriage is now a political issue. That
> would have been unthinkable when I was young."
> The 68-year-old actor said he and his partner, Brad Altman, have been
together
> for 18 years.
> Takei, a Japanese-American who lived in a U.S. internment camp from age 4
> to 8, said he grew up feeling ashamed of his ethnicity and sexuality. He
> likened prejudice against gays to racial segregation.
> "It's against basic decency and what American values stand for," he said.
> Takei joined the "Star Trek" cast in 1973 as Hikaru Sulu, a character he
> played for three seasons on television and in six subsequent films. He
received
> a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame in 1986.
> A community activist, Takei ran for the Los Angeles City Council in 1973.
> He serves on the advisory committee of the California Civil Liberties
Public
> Education Program and is chairman of East West Players, the theater
company
> producing "Equus."
>
> http://www.wjla.com/headlines/1005/272568.html
> ----------
> <insert tasteless joke>
>
> No, Mr Sulu.. I said set a course for Uranus,not 'your ....'
>
> ARRGGHHHH!!!
>
>
> AADear Gene,
I feel very sad for your friend.
I had a similar lost of a 50 year old great musician sound engineer a couple
of years ago.
May him rest in peace.
Dimitrios
"gene lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
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>Dave Townsend died this week in California. Dave was best know as the guitar
>player in the platinum R&B group "surface", but Dave was also a talented
>session musician, songwriter and producer. I co-wrote and co-produced several
>tracks with Dave over the years.
>Dave was a quiet person and a true gentleman, and he will be missed.
>He was 50 years old.
>Dave's father, (Ed Townsend) was also a well know songwriter who's songs
>included Marvin Gaye's 'Let's Get It On.'
>Dave collaborated with many Paris owners in the last few years, including
>myself, David “Pic” Conley (also from Surface), Thurman Phillips, and Joshua
>Thompson. He was a big believer in the “Paris sound.”
>Gene
>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
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>DC,
>Kinda pricey. Do they like it in France?
*Everyone* has one of these in Paree!
Actually I don't want one anymore. I heard that every time you
turn your wrist to see the time, your Strat's pickups start buzzing..
DC
>Tom
>
> "DC" <dc@spamunclelouie.com> wrote in message news:43644b66$1@linux...
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> I want one
>
> http://www.cathodecorner.com/nixiewatch/index.html
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The latest version of this EQ (V1.42) adds peeking curves modeled after the
Sony Oxford type 1,2 and 3 curves. This adds considerable power to an already
great sounding EQ. It is also more stable. This will turn into a commercial
product, so I suggest you get your free version soon.Ya know............Im sitting here listening to some *roughs* of a tracking
session I did Friday night. No compression, a very tiny bit of subtractive
EQ, a tiny touch of NoLimit on the mix bus. That's it. The rest of the story
is using the Paris EQ makeup gain and the fader gain stages to get the
*mixphat thing going*.
I swear guys.......this sounds better to my ears than all of the 1,000,000
gobazzillion plugin options I have available when using the SX rig during
mixdown.
It's pretty minimalist stuff to begin with......acoustic rythym guitar,
acoustic lead guitar, fiddle, electric bass and acoustic drum kit........but
that seems to be all I do these days anyway.
Sometimes less is truly more.
DeejI saw a pair of the SE ribbons at a dealer.
They do look really well constructed, and I guess they are supposed to be
a tad more airy than the Royer. They aint super cheap though as are the shiny..
I really do want to know about the diff in the tranny of the Shiny box mics,
I am thinking a pair of these may fit the bill as room mics. Of course you
afiten get what you pay for
I also want to know how they sound on a crunchy master gain marshall.
I heard a clip of DJ's gemini in action, how does the 5000 compare?
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>I can't wait to give one of these SE ribbons a try. I'm very impressed with
>the SE stuff. We just used a matched pair of SE3's on some guitar overdubs.
>We compared them to a matched pair of Neumann KM 184's and a pair of AKG
>C460B's before we committed to them. The SE3's sound great. I think this
>company is hitting some home runs with some high quality products at very
>good prices.
>
>Deej
>
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>>session musician, songwriter and producer. I co-wrote and co-produced several
>>tracks with Dave over the years.
>>Dave was a quiet person and a true gentleman, and he will be missed.
>>He was 50 years old.
>>Dave's father, (Ed Townsend) was also a well know songwriter who's songs
>>included Marvin Gaye's 'Let's Get It On.'
>>Dave collaborated with many Paris owners in the last few years, including
>>myself, David “Pic” Conley (also from Surface), Thurman Phillips, and Joshua
>>Thompson. He was a big believer in the “Paris sound.”
>>Gene
>"Neil" <OIYOIU@IOU.com> wrote:
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>OK here's a question for the Wormhole expersts here...
>
>What if I want to use a 2nd PC as an external piece of hardware
>exclusively for plugin's (kinda like if I had a TC Powercore or
>one of those Muse Receptor thingies); could I use Wormhole to
>do this, in terms of connecting the two PC's?
>
>Neil
Yes, that is it’s most common use.
gOn 30 Oct 2005 05:32:13 +1000, "gene lennon"
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>Dave Townsend died this week in California. Dave was best know as the guitar
>player in the platinum R&B group "surface", but Dave was also a talented
>session musician, songwriter and producer. I co-wrote and co-produced several
>tracks with Dave over the years.
>Dave was a quiet person and a true gentleman, and he will be missed.
>He was 50 years old.
My condolences, Gene. 50 is so young... so very close to my own
age...
That really sucks.
pabCool, one thing I really harp on wiht bands about guitars is less is more.
So many great guitar bands (Led Zep, The Who, zz Top, Hendix, and even more
modern stuff like The Smiths, or the Clash) did not use that JCM800 type
marshall sound but often used cleaner sounds and less wall of guitar overdubs
for sure than say Foo Fighters or something of that nature. so it seems that
many of the LDC's or even 57's can sound pretty abrasive with them, but these
High Gain amos can sound cool for sure, the ribbon may be just the trick.,I
know the 121s do ok for this, but I do think they sound at tad murky too.
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
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>Dale and Cujo,
>Heres what I can tell you about the 46Ls:
>
>I haven't any ribbons to AB them with. My experience with
>Beyer M-160s was less than stellar so I am certainly biased.
>The information I got from Jon at Shiny Box is that the Lundahls make =
>the
>mics more clear from top to bottom. I know John Macy is preferring the
=
>standard
>46s over his Royer 121s on e. gtrs. I am going to hammer
>them tonight with some crunch guitars for yours and my benefit.
>I'll A-B them with a 57,
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> > first
> > > FX
> > > > > box sends and receives audio data seamlessly, at least on
> submix1/MEC1
> > > via
> > > > > an aux send set to "external".
> > > > >
> > > > > I am not, however, having any luck after that. No other Digipatch
> > > > "patches"
> > > > > seem to work, whether it's simultaneously patching the 2nd FX box
to
> > > > > submix2/MEC2, or switching the 1st FX box to another submix/MEC.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have a three-card, three-MEC system, and thought I has sussed
out
> > the
> > > > > layout of my physical cabling pretty well. Is there something I
> don't
> > > > > understand about the Paris aux modules? I was under the impression
> > that
> > > > each
> > > > > submix had its own complement of 8 aux modules, independently of
the
> > > other
> > > > > submixes...I'm probably being stupid somehow...
> > > > >
> > > > > Confused,
> > > > > Jimmy
> > > > >
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>If I could just get automatic delay compensation in Paris, I'd ditch the
monster SX rig in a heartbeat and just keep the Multiface for it's
converters and for streaming a few VSTi's over one lightpipe connection.
That's all I'd really need.
Futzing around with the slip'n slide thing during a mix is what drives me
nuts.
;o)
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> > news:43658d5e@linux...
> > > Jimmy.........you may not have any problems at all. I posted a
word.doc
> of
> > > my routing matrix in another post here earlier. I've got a *very*
> > > complicated system here. There is a certain boot sequence that I use
> that
> > is
> > > fairly reliable, but not always. Sometimes, if the system won't lock
up,
> I
> > > have to just shut things down and start over. A major factor in this
> > > clocking tr4ain wreck is having over 60 digital I/O's interfacing
> between
> > > the two DAWs and other digital gear. One wimpy handshake and the whole
> > think
> > > can go south. It's a huge bunch of variables , a pair of Digipatch
units
> > and
> > > routing of digital I/O of outboard units using various format
converters
> > to
> > > get everything happy and the spdif I/O of Paris and RME HDSP units as
> > > additional patchbays. Endless possibilities for trouble. I must say
> > > though........when it's up and running it's an awesome beast.
> > >
> > > "uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> > > news:43657ac9@linux...
> > > > I put the Digipatch software on the back burner in order to try the
> rest
> > > of
> > > > your suggestions first.
> > > >
> > > > I'll be damned if it didn't work.
> > > >
> > > > Doug, you're a peach. My feeling of victory was electric. Such an
easy
> > > > 15-minute fix.
> > > >
> > > > What sort of dodginess should I expect? You spoke of
unreliability...
> > > >
> > > > Jimmy
> > > >
> > > > "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:43656037@linux...
> > > > > Do you have the Digipatch software properly loaded so you can
> control
> > > the
> > > > > routing from the Digipatch control panel on your computer desktop?
> If
> > > not,
> > > > > this could be your problem......just a routing
issue.......however,
> > > having
> > > > > said this..........if you have done this and still aren't having
any
> > > joy,
> > > > > then it sounds to me like your MEC on Submix 2 isn't clocking
> > properly.
> > > > This
> > > > > is the rub with using multiple MECs with an external clock.
> Sometimes
> > > > there
> > > > > a train wreck with the clocking.
> > > > >
> > > > > Have you added the UseHouseSync=1 line to your Paris .cfg file?
> > > > > Subsequently, have you opened Paris from the Paris.exe file in the
> Emu
> > > > > directory in your Program Files directory, set the sync source to
> Word
> > > > > Clock, then saved this to your Emu folder as defaultproject.ppj?
> > > > >
> > > > > Also, always be sure to turn your house clock on before you power
up
> > > your
> > > > > MECs and then afterwards boot Paris from a desktop shortcut to the
> > > > > defaultproject.ppj that you created and saved in the Emu
directory.
> > > > >
> > > > > You gotta' jump through a number of hoops and then it's not always
> > > > reliable.
> > > > > I always boot up my system at least two hours before a session to
> get
> > it
> > > > > stabilized before the talent shows up.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you have done all of the above things and you're still not
> getting
> > > the
> > > > > other MECs to clok to WC, launch your defaultproject.ppj and then
> > toggle
> > > > the
> > > > > sync source to internal. Let it sit until it quits popping and
> > > > > fussing........then toggle it back to WC and let it pop and fuss
> until
> > > it
> > > > > settles down. You can usually tell when it's locked up because you
> > will
> > > > hear
> > > > > a loud pop, then it stabilized. this can sometimes take 5-10
seconds
> > to
> > > > > happen.
> > > > >
> > > > > Dontcha' just love Paris?
> > > > >
> > > > > ;o)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> > > > > news:43654494@linux...
> > > > > > Howdy.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm in the process of getting my Paris rig patched digitally to
my
> > > > > Kurzweil
> > > > > > FX boxes via an MAudio Digipatch.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As far as I am able to tell, I have everything physically
patched
> > > > > properly.
> > > > > > As a matter of fact, I get word-clock lock on both Kurzweil
boxes
> > from
> > > > my
> > > > > > Lucid master clock (via the SPDIF ins and outs on Paris), and
the
> > > first
> > > > FX
> > > > > > box sends and receives audio data seamlessly, at least on
> > submix1/MEC1
> > > > via
> > > > > > an aux send set to "external".
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am not, however, having any luck after that. No other
Digipatch
> > > > > "patches"
> > > > > > seem to work, whether it's simultaneously patching the 2nd FX
box
> to
> > > > > > submix2/MEC2, or switching the 1st FX box to another submix/MEC.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have a three-card, three-MEC system, and thought I has sussed
> out
> > > the
> > > > > > layout of my physical cabling pretty well. Is there something I
> > don't
> > > > > > understand about the Paris aux modules? I was under the
impression
> > > that
>
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| Re: Wormhole_buying_list_discount_sign-up? [message #59746 is a reply to message #59742] |
Sun, 30 October 2005 22:58 |
Aaron Allen
Messages: 1988
Registered: May 2008
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>the VST Rack and I will need low enough latency in Paris that I can keep
my
>tracks in Paris and use the Paris mix automation without problem. I think
I
>saw Dimitrios post here that he had achieved somewhere around 40ms latency
>using the FXPansion VST/DX wrapper? Not sure why he would need this if the
>UAD-1 cards are in another machine...........but anyway........can this
be
>done somehow? If it involves using Cubase SX.........well, I've already
got
>that happening with no latency as long as all tracks are being played back
>in SX. I need the tracks to stay in Paris and to process them either
>elsewhere, or in Paris with low enough latency that I can set up a mix
>template with 48 tracks and mix in Paris using the Paris
>automation............wait, didn't I already say that?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Deej
>
>Given the choice does Paris perform better with one type of plug in over
another?Hi Jimmy,
How do you find the paris eq stacks up against the 1073 eq?
All the best,
Mike
"uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>It's weird, how many people are using native plugins.
>
>I've not used the UAD-1, so I felt the need to pipe up with that caveat.
>
>But it is astounding how bad plugins sound, and how much time you can spend
>trying to get them to sound good; but when you plug in an 1176 or a 1073
EQ
>or a nice FX box (or even an RNC compressor), it takes about 10 seconds
>before things just make more sense sonically. Outboard is still light-years
>ahead of plugins, in my somewhat informed opinion.
>
>Jimmy
>
>
>
>"Mike Audet" <mike@mikeF-SPAMaudet.com> wrote in message
>news:4365825c$1@linux...
>>
>> I agree with everything you just said about plugins. Exteral harware
just
>> blows the doors off virtual.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>> "uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> >I do not use plugins, and haven't for years. They do not sound as good
as
>> >high-quality outboard equipment, not on any level, and that's putting
it
>> >very politely. I am shocked that companies like Waves make any money
at
>> all
>> >selling those kinds of products.
>> >
>> >Paris is amazing, but I use it's EQ sparingly at most. Ulitmately, for
>me,
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| Re: Wormhole_buying_list_discount_sign-up? [message #59771 is a reply to message #59625] |
Mon, 31 October 2005 20:52 |
duncan
Messages: 123
Registered: November 2006
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? Not sure why he would need this if
>the
>> >UAD-1 cards are in another machine...........but anyway........can this
>> be
>> >done somehow? If it involves using Cubase SX.........well, I've already
>> got
>> >that happening with no latency as long as all tracks are being played
>back
>> >in SX. I need the tracks to stay in Paris and to process them either
>> >elsewhere, or in Paris with low enough latency that I can set up a mix
>> >template with 48 tracks and mix in Paris using the Paris
>> >automation............wait, didn't I already say that?
>> >
>> >Thanks,
>> >
>> >Deej
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Okay I did the mic shoot out but the files are way too large to=20
post here. It's 6 Meg. 16 tracks in all. If you want 'em I can email=20
them to you unless you have another way. I don't really want to be=20
printing disks.
Tom
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:4365791b@linux...
Cujo,
I know what you're saying about the hi-gain sounds. The
414 is always abrassive here. I have been a 57 lover from
the getgo but am always fighting to reproduce what's coming from
the amp in the control room. =20
If the 121s can be murky maybe that will be true with the Shiny Box
also. I can say they accept paris high end eq very gracefully. Not
like a 57 or a 414. =20
The jury is in session as we speak...
Tom
"cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote in message =
news:436568a1$1@linux...
Cool, one thing I really harp on wiht bands about guitars is less is =
more.
So many great guitar bands (Led Zep, The Who, zz Top, Hendix, and =
even more
modern stuff li
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| Re: Wormhole_buying_list_discount_sign-up? [message #59786 is a reply to message #59740] |
Tue, 01 November 2005 12:44 |
Don Nafe
Messages: 1206
Registered: July 2005
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;>>>Meaning he will purchase you, Dimitrios, with cash money, not anything
>>>>to do with wormhole..
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>>
>>>>TC
>>>>
>>>>Dimitrios wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Dear Rick,
>>>>>I am really dissapointed in your post.
>>>>>If you don't care buying thats ok but saying that it is slavery to buy
>>>>>something
>>>>>that is so innovative for Paris and not only and considering the som
>>
>>many
>>
>>>>>hours spent to make things smooth for Paris and wormhole as much as
>>>>>possible
>>>>>without me being involved at all in the sales of this plugin that
>>
>>really
>>
>>>>>makes me feel sad.
>>>>>I was hoping that you at least would appreciatte all the efoorts here
>>
>>and
>>
>>>>>that wouild be supporting those nice and cheap plugins that help Paris
>>
>>.
>>
>>>>>I see people here payinmg 250 $ for a single adat card so for 3 adat
>>>>>cards
>>>>>750 $.
>>>>>plus a Mec 150$ almost a 1000 $ to just have 24 adat 20 bit tracks
>>>>>from one
>>>>>PC to another.
>>>>>Now a simple plugin lets you have 24 bit (or 32bit floating until you
>>
>>use
>>
>>>>>Paris dsp ) of 24 audio tracks for a normal 2600 Ghz cpu.
>>>>>So if you think that I am giving you guys a hard time then sorry I
>>>>>will stop
>>>>>what I am doing these last months.
>>>>>thanks to all of you anyway.
>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>Dimitrios
>>>>>
>>>>>rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>"i will buy Dimitrios"...dude...that's slavery...even in a non pc
>>>>>>correct society.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 07:32:03 -0500, "Brandon"
>>>>>><brandon_goodwin@REMOVETHISsbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>i will buy Dimitrios.
>>>>>>>brandon
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:4361ea71$1@linux...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Hello to everyone.
>>>>>>>>After my last conversation with Adrian -wormhole's author- I have
>>>>>>>>concluded
>>>>>>>>that wormhole is not selling well ( where are we guys ?) so maybe
>>>>>>>>major
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>updates
>>>>>>>>will get longer to support as he has to concentrate his efforts to
>>>>>>>>"selling"
>>>>>>>>appz.
>>>>>>>>I wonder how we Parisians expect plugin authors like Adrian to
>>
>>support
>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>plugins
>>>>>>>>like wormhole which are a godsend for Paris with tremendous present
>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>future
>>>>>>>>possibilities... (he is thinking of making wormhole lighter so to
>>
>>have
>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>even
>>>>>>>>more instances).
>>>>>>>>I don't see us people here supporting wormhole and that makes me
>>>>>>>>sad
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>and
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>maybe all my efforts toward this direction will fail somehow.
>>>>>>>>If we don't buy it how can we ask him for this and that ?
>>>>>>>>Even two or three buys would not justify major -Paris oriented-
>>>>>>>>updates
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>with
>>>>>>>>wormhole...
>>>>>>>>Please sign here if you care for using wormhole even as two channel
>>>>>>>>cross
>>>>>>>>bridge beetween two computers (NOTE IT CAN BE USED ON SAME COMPUTER
>>>>>>>>WITH
>>>>>>>>DIFFERENT APPZ TOO).
>>>>>>>>If we sign enouph people here (enouph depends I would say 10 and
>>
>>over
>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>will
>>>>>>>>kindly ask for a small discount for mass purchase.
>>>>>>>>Please try wormhole and see for yourself how great this plugin is.
>>>>>>>>We need Adrian (convince him make appz suited to Paris) and we
>>>>>>>>certainly
>>>>>>>>need wormhole.
>>>>>>>>It will keep Paris alive for things to come no matter where audio
>>>>>>>>technology
>>>>>>>>will go.
>>>>>>>>You will always have Paris thus connected with modern pc's doing
>>
>>what
>>
>>>>>
>>>>>it
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>is known to do best, sounding good when summing...
>>>>>>>>Please forgive me if I am being so pushy with this but noone else
>>>>>>>>except
>>>>>>>>for Adrian (till now) has showed so much interest to help us
>>>>>>>>,Paris
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>users.
>>>>>>>>I wanna convince him make an automatic LATENCY compensator for VST
>>>>>>>>plugins
>>>>>>>>which I think would be great if succeeded.
>>>>>>>>Believe me if only two-three Paris users will sign this I will be
>>>>>>>>having
>>>>>>>>no guts to ask him that or anything else.
>>>>>>>>This plugin sells for 49 $ only...
>>>>>>>>Please respond with signing also.
>>>>>>>>With regards,
>>>>>>>>Dimitrios
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>
>
>You guys just don't appreciate the ART of language.
It doesn't have to be technically correct at all times you know??....!!!
It's an expression of ones soul...open your minds and take it in...
so simple.. yet so comprehendable..
yeah.....:-)
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