| Paris on a HACKINTOSH ??? [message #104496] |
Mon, 28 December 2009 17:39  |
Yasser Shaaban
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Hi all, Merry Xams and hopefully a Happier New Year . Has anybody thought of running Paris on Hackintosh machine ( an Intel or AMD based machine with Mac OS ) ??
I ma go try it pretty soon , but thought maybe someone had already tried.. any tips? apart from calling an explosives' dismantling squad ? teeee  heee
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| Re: Paris on a HACKINTOSH ??? [message #104504 is a reply to message #104497] |
Wed, 30 December 2009 10:29  |
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Yep Ted, I think that's right - I don't think a Hackintosh (at least as the term is currently used) can run Mac OS9. It'd only be of PARIS relevance insofar as it can still boot a Windows OS like XP. But since that's probably pretty much a "given" I'd say that likely means a "thumbs up" to the Hackintosh idea.
"... being bitter is like swallowing poison and waiting for the other guy to die..." - anon
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| Re: Paris on a HACKINTOSH ??? [message #104512 is a reply to message #104511] |
Thu, 31 December 2009 01:23 |
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Yep - PARIS on the Mac was never released for OSX. The last Mac OS the PARIS app was released for was 9.2.2.
If I recall correctly (and please, anyone who can correct my recollections please chime in): after the PARIS venture folded, Edmund Pirali was quoted as saying quite explicitly (in paraphrase) that "if you build OSX drivers, I'll give you a version of PARIS that runs on OSX". It might just be my interpretation, but I could look at the confidence with which that was phrased and imagine that he'd either already had an OSX port of the app by that time or that he was completely confident it was do-able quick. Edmund is a stone Mac user - you can find him active on Apple's forums to this day - so it's not hard to imagine him looking ahead to that.
And there's the rub. Although the app was ID's job, as far as I know the underlying drivers for PARIS weren't - they were Emu/Ensoniq's (I'd imagine that's why the PARIS community got them in the code package Chuck negotiated from Emu). And no OSX drivers = PARIS OSX app not usable.
Folks in the community did pursue OSX Core Audio drivers; things were looking pretty hopeful for a while - parts of the drivers could be ported from what we have (I believe Doug said he ported the PSCL to Mac OSX easily enough). I don't want to trivialize the amount of work it would have required (audio on OSX can be a real drag) but it really just boiled down to man-hours of effort. If enough of those could have been thrown at it, it would have been long since done. But the effort was abandoned before it hit the point where it was worth asking Edmund to redeem the pledge for the OSX version of the app (since it would have done nothing without drivers).
Eventually Macs moved on to ditch PCI slots and embrace first PCIx and then PCIe. The PARIS cards wouldn't have worked in the new slots (although ironically the VirtuaVia chassis which eventually came along would likely have kept PARIS in the Mac game) - and that was pretty much that.
If someone, some day, is crazy and passionate enough to take on the job of writing or procuring OSX drivers for PARIS, I'll take on the job of pursuing that pledge with ID. It's certainly not any further out of the realm of possibility than any of the other things we've achieved this year; as mentioned, there might already be a port in a junk drawer somewhere; they're seriously dialled on OSX audio; and it might just be *fun*. But until and unless the community tackles the drivers, on our own, as our own initiative, PARIS Mac will remain forever frozen at OS 9.2.2.
"... being bitter is like swallowing poison and waiting for the other guy to die..." - anon
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| Re: Paris on a HACKINTOSH ??? [message #104520 is a reply to message #104512] |
Sun, 03 January 2010 01:10 |
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how about running osx , and then a virtual winxp session from within osx
or just having a hackintosh and you can also boot into xp . have one ssd for osx and another for xp paris etc
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