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| Re: Some questions for everybody [message #66983 is a reply to message #66980] |
Mon, 17 April 2006 19:24   |
John Macy
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Well, I'd think twice, which would take about 10 seconds,
then I would head to PayPal....
Me three...
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>I'm not sure that this is possible, but, what would you guys be willing
to
>pay for automatic plugin delay compensation?
>
>I would pay $300.00 without even thinking twice, just for this one feature
>if I could use UAD-1 cards..
>
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:444444fa$1@linux...
>>
>> I'm kind of thinking out loud.
>>
>> What kind of native plugins would you guys like to see developed for
>Paris?
>>
>>
>> What do you think you guys would be willing to pay for these plugins?
>>
>> If we could get the algorithms ported from the Ensoniq DP pro, what would
>> you guys be willing to pay for that?
>>
>> I'm not sure that this is possible, but, what would you guys be willing
to
>> pay for automatic plugin delay compensation?
>>
>> If you could have somebody do coding work for Paris, what would you have
>> them do? What would you be willing to pay for this software/service?
>>
>> I may have somebody interested.
>>
>> James
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| Re: Some questions for everybody [message #66986 is a reply to message #66985] |
Mon, 17 April 2006 20:29 |
excelav
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Ok, the number one request would be latency compensation! This might be a
tuff one, but Ok. What about the other questions? What about native Paris
plugins? This is probably where we'd start.
A little more input please.
"jim Phillips" <jmp@nospamnecounty.net> wrote:
>
>me 4th
>>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>>>I'm not sure that this is possible, but, what would you guys be willing
>>to
>>>pay for automatic plugin delay compensation?
>>>
>>>I would pay $300.00 without even thinking twice, just for this one feature
>>>if I could use UAD-1 cards..
>>>
>>>
>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:444444fa$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> I'm kind of thinking out loud.
>>>>
>>>> What kind of native plugins would you guys like to see developed for
>>>Paris?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What do you think you guys would be willing to pay for these plugins?
>>>>
>>>> If we could get the algorithms ported from the Ensoniq DP pro, what
would
>>>> you guys be willing to pay for that?
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure that this is possible, but, what would you guys be willing
>>to
>>>> pay for automatic plugin delay compensation?
>>>>
>>>> If you could have somebody do coding work for Paris, what would you
have
>>>> them do? What would you be willing to pay for this software/service?
>>>>
>>>> I may have somebody interested.
>>>>
>>>> James
>>>
>>>
>>
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| Re: Some questions for everybody [message #66988 is a reply to message #66978] |
Mon, 17 April 2006 22:30 |
Tony Benson
Messages: 453
Registered: June 2006
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James,
ALC would be first on my list also, along with support for VST instruments,
but you're right about those things being on the "very difficult" side of
things.
As far as EDS effects, I'm actually very happy with what we've already got.
I'm not really missing anything.
The places PARIS lacks for me is in VST support, and more flexible routing
and grouping. Again, these things will be hard to tackle.
I'd support development for some more variety in comps, chorus,
delays,modulation effects, etc. $100.00 for a good multi-pack?
Definitely more for ALC and major improvements along those lines.
Tony
On 4/17/06 8:46 PM, in article 444444fa$1@linux, "James McCloskey"
<excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> I'm kind of thinking out loud.
>
> What kind of native plugins would you guys like to see developed for Paris?
>
>
> What do you think you guys would be willing to pay for these plugins?
>
> If we could get the algorithms ported from the Ensoniq DP pro, what would
> you guys be willing to pay for that?
>
> I'm not sure that this is possible, but, what would you guys be willing to
> pay for automatic plugin delay compensation?
>
> If you could have somebody do coding work for Paris, what would you have
> them do? What would you be willing to pay for this software/service?
>
> I may have somebody interested.
>
> James
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| Re: Some questions for everybody [message #66990 is a reply to message #66986] |
Mon, 17 April 2006 23:31 |
Deej [1]
Messages: 2149
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Not for me. There aren't enough/powerful enough DSP chips. The DP Pro algos
are gonna suck them right up. There's just not enough horsepower to run
enough of these per submix to make it worth further efforts. I would support
bringing whatever Chuck had on the boards to some sort of conclusion, but
PDC is the bottom line for me, and second would be being able to buss native
FX to the Paris auxes. Get these two things accomplished and it's a HUGE
deal......for me at least.
Deej
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:44445cfd@linux...
>
> Ok, the number one request would be latency compensation! This might be a
> tuff one, but Ok. What about the other questions? What about native
Paris
> plugins? This is probably where we'd start.
>
> A little more input please.
>
> "jim Phillips" <jmp@nospamnecounty.net> wrote:
> >
> >me 4th
> >>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >>>>I'm not sure that this is possible, but, what would you guys be
willing
> >>to
> >>>pay for automatic plugin delay compensation?
> >>>
> >>>I would pay $300.00 without even thinking twice, just for this one
feature
> >>>if I could use UAD-1 cards..
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:444444fa$1@linux...
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm kind of thinking out loud.
> >>>>
> >>>> What kind of native plugins would you guys like to see developed for
> >>>Paris?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> What do you think you guys would be willing to pay for these plugins?
> >>>>
> >>>> If we could get the algorithms ported from the Ensoniq DP pro, what
> would
> >>>> you guys be willing to pay for that?
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm not sure that this is possible, but, what would you guys be
willing
> >>to
> >>>> pay for automatic plugin delay compensation?
> >>>>
> >>>> If you could have somebody do coding work for Paris, what would you
> have
> >>>> them do? What would you be willing to pay for this software/service?
> >>>>
> >>>> I may have somebody interested.
> >>>>
> >>>> James
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
>
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| Re: Some questions for everybody [message #66991 is a reply to message #66988] |
Mon, 17 April 2006 23:47 |
Tom Bruhl
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James,
I'm with Deej. Auto delay comp and native effects on auxes
would be easily worth the $300 to me. Major issues at this point.
New effects are fun but there are so many third party jobs it's not
that important to me. The Paris comp and NoLimit are just too good
as they are. A side chain insert would be nice for gates and comps. =20
Didn't somebody say they were doing that already? Hmmm?
Tom
"Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote in message =
news:C069E3BF.A62A%tony@standinghampton.com...
James,
ALC would be first on my list also, along with support for VST =
instruments,
but you're right about those things being on the "very difficult" side =
of
things.
As far as EDS effects, I'm actually very happy with what we've already =
got.
I'm not really missing anything.
The places PARIS lacks for me is in VST support, and more flexible =
routing
and grouping. Again, these things will be hard to tackle.
I'd support development for some more variety in comps, chorus,
delays,modulation effects, etc. $100.00 for a good multi-pack?
Definitely more for ALC and major improvements along those lines.
Tony
On 4/17/06 8:46 PM, in article 444444fa$1@linux, "James McCloskey"
<excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>=20
> I'm kind of thinking out loud.
>=20
> What kind of native plugins would you guys like to see developed for =
Paris?
>=20
>=20
> What do you think you guys would be willing to pay for these =
plugins?
>=20
> If we could get the algorithms ported from the Ensoniq DP pro, what =
would
> you guys be willing to pay for that?
>=20
> I'm not sure that this is possible, but, what would you guys be =
willing to
> pay for automatic plugin delay compensation?
>=20
> If you could have somebody do coding work for Paris, what would you =
have
> them do? What would you be willing to pay for this =
software/service?
>=20
> I may have somebody interested.
>=20
> James
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>James,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm with Deej. Auto delay comp =
and native=20
effects on auxes</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>would be easily worth the $300 to =
me. Major=20
issues at this point.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>New effects are fun but there are so =
many third=20
party jobs it's not</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>that important to me. The Paris =
comp and=20
NoLimit are just too good</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>as they are. A side chain insert =
would be=20
nice for gates and comps. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Didn't somebody </FONT><FONT =
face=3DArial size=3D2>say=20
they were doing that already? Hmmm?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Tony Benson" <<A=20
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href=3D"mailto:tony@standinghampton.com">tony@standinghampton.com</A>>=
wrote=20
in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:C069E3BF.A62A%tony@standinghampton.com">news:C069E3BF.A62A%t=
ony@standinghampton.com</A>...</DIV>James,<BR><BR>ALC=20
would be first on my list also, along with support for VST =
instruments,<BR>but=20
you're right about those things being on the "very difficult" side=20
of<BR>things.<BR><BR>As far as EDS effects, I'm actually very happy =
with what=20
we've already got.<BR>I'm not really missing anything.<BR><BR>The =
places PARIS=20
lacks for me is in VST support, and more flexible routing<BR>and =
grouping.=20
Again, these things will be hard to tackle.<BR><BR>I'd support =
development for=20
some more variety in comps, chorus,<BR>delays,modulation effects, etc. =
$100.00=20
for a good multi-pack?<BR><BR>Definitely more for ALC and major =
improvements=20
along those lines.<BR><BR>Tony<BR><BR>On 4/17/06 8:46 PM, in article =
<A=20
href=3D"mailto:444444fa$1@linux">444444fa$1@linux</A>, "James=20
McCloskey"<BR><<A=20
href=3D"mailto:excelsm@hotmail.com">excelsm@hotmail.com</A>>=20
wrote:<BR><BR>> <BR>> I'm kind of thinking out loud.<BR>> =
<BR>>=20
What kind of native plugins would you guys like to see developed for=20
Paris?<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> What do you think you guys would be =
willing=20
to pay for these plugins?<BR>> <BR>> If we could get the =
algorithms=20
ported from the Ensoniq DP pro, what would<BR>> you guys be willing =
to pay=20
for that?<BR>> <BR>> I'm not sure that this is possible, but, =
what would=20
you guys be willing to<BR>> pay for automatic plugin delay=20
compensation?<BR>> <BR>> If you could have somebody do coding =
work for=20
Paris, what would you have<BR>> them do? What would you be =
willing to=20
pay for this software/service?<BR>> <BR>> I may have somebody=20
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| Re: Some questions for everybody [message #66996 is a reply to message #66991] |
Tue, 18 April 2006 01:11 |
Aaron Allen
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Can't you use Wires to side chain Tom?
For me, it is about getting the DSP algo's out to VST format, and =
topping my list is PDC. $300 for that?=20
Oh yeah, I'd go it. See if you can get them to rip that shoddy midi =
engine out and fix the compact feature for other stuff I'd have interest =
in.=20
AA
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:44448abc$1@linux...
James,
I'm with Deej. Auto delay comp and native effects on auxes
would be easily worth the $300 to me. Major issues at this point.
New effects are fun but there are so many third party jobs it's not
that important to me. The Paris comp and NoLimit are just too good
as they are. A side chain insert would be nice for gates and comps. =20
Didn't somebody say they were doing that already? Hmmm?
Tom
"Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote in message =
news:C069E3BF.A62A%tony@standinghampton.com...
James,
ALC would be first on my list also, along with support for VST =
instruments,
but you're right about those things being on the "very difficult" =
side of
things.
As far as EDS effects, I'm actually very happy with what we've =
already got.
I'm not really missing anything.
The places PARIS lacks for me is in VST support, and more flexible =
routing
and grouping. Again, these things will be hard to tackle.
I'd support development for some more variety in comps, chorus,
delays,modulation effects, etc. $100.00 for a good multi-pack?
Definitely more for ALC and major improvements along those lines.
Tony
On 4/17/06 8:46 PM, in article 444444fa$1@linux, "James McCloskey"
<excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>=20
> I'm kind of thinking out loud.
>=20
> What kind of native plugins would you guys like to see developed =
for Paris?
>=20
>=20
> What do you think you guys would be willing to pay for these =
plugins?
>=20
> If we could get the algorithms ported from the Ensoniq DP pro, =
what would
> you guys be willing to pay for that?
>=20
> I'm not sure that this is possible, but, what would you guys be =
willing to
> pay for automatic plugin delay compensation?
>=20
> If you could have somebody do coding work for Paris, what would =
you have
> them do? What would you be willing to pay for this =
software/service?
>=20
> I may have somebody interested.
>=20
> James
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Can't you use Wires to side chain =
Tom?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>For me, it is about getting the DSP =
algo's out to=20
VST format, and topping my list is PDC. $300 for that? <BR>Oh yeah, I'd =
go it.=20
See if you can get them to rip that shoddy midi engine out and fix the =
compact=20
feature for other stuff I'd have interest in. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>AA</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote =
in message=20
<A href=3D"news:44448abc$1@linux">news:44448abc$1@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>James,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm with Deej. Auto delay comp =
and native=20
effects on auxes</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>would be easily worth the $300 to =
me. Major=20
issues at this point.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>New effects are fun but there are so =
many third=20
party jobs it's not</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>that important to me. The Paris =
comp and=20
NoLimit are just too good</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>as they are. A side chain =
insert would be=20
nice for gates and comps. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Didn't somebody </FONT><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>say they were doing that already? Hmmm?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Tony Benson" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:tony@standinghampton.com">tony@standinghampton.com</A>>=
=20
wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:C069E3BF.A62A%tony@standinghampton.com">news:C069E3BF.A62A%t=
ony@standinghampton.com</A>...</DIV>James,<BR><BR>ALC=20
would be first on my list also, along with support for VST=20
instruments,<BR>but you're right about those things being on the =
"very=20
difficult" side of<BR>things.<BR><BR>As far as EDS effects, I'm =
actually=20
very happy with what we've already got.<BR>I'm not really missing=20
anything.<BR><BR>The places PARIS lacks for me is in VST support, =
and more=20
flexible routing<BR>and grouping. Again, these things will be hard =
to=20
tackle.<BR><BR>I'd support development for some more variety in =
comps,=20
chorus,<BR>delays,modulation effects, etc. $100.00 for a good=20
multi-pack?<BR><BR>Definitely more for ALC and major improvements =
along=20
those lines.<BR><BR>Tony<BR><BR>On 4/17/06 8:46 PM, in article <A=20
href=3D"mailto:444444fa$1@linux">444444fa$1@linux</A>, "James=20
McCloskey"<BR><<A=20
href=3D"mailto:excelsm@hotmail.com">excelsm@hotmail.com</A>>=20
wrote:<BR><BR>> <BR>> I'm kind of thinking out loud.<BR>> =
<BR>>=20
What kind of native plugins would you guys like to see developed for =
Paris?<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> What do you think you guys would be =
willing=20
to pay for these plugins?<BR>> <BR>> If we could get the =
algorithms=20
ported from the Ensoniq DP pro, what would<BR>> you guys be =
willing to=20
pay for that?<BR>> <BR>> I'm not sure that this is possible, =
but, what=20
would you guys be willing to<BR>> pay for automatic plugin delay=20
compensation?<BR>> <BR>> If you could have somebody do coding =
work for=20
Paris, what would you have<BR>> them do? What would you be =
willing=20
to pay for this software/service?<BR>> <BR>> I may have =
somebody=20
interested.<BR>> <BR>> James<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
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and=20
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| Re: Some questions for everybody [message #66999 is a reply to message #66996] |
Tue, 18 April 2006 01:37 |
Dimitrios
Messages: 1056
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Hi,
I would like to drop in too here...
I am sure we could gather 100 people here willing to pay 300$ for the delay
compensation and aux DX/VST as global insert also.
That makes around 30.000 $ which is sufficient in my own oppinion to justify
the work.
But can someone do this without code ?
I think chuck can enlighten us if he has any access to this.
I think though that someone could build a VST plugin that could work as delay
compensator.
That plugin could be loaded on every Paris audio track say at the bottom
VST slot so every vst added on any audio track would "inform" all vst instances
of that plugin to delay all tracks for the amount needed.
Maybe that more easy to do and would get paid a lot less than the above amount
of money.
If I had the programming skills thats what I would do.
Anyone knows programming ?
I could give him more details about my idea...
Regards,
Dimitrios
"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>
>
>Can't you use Wires to side chain Tom?
>
>For me, it is about getting the DSP algo's out to VST format, and =
>topping my list is PDC. $300 for that?=20
>Oh yeah, I'd go it. See if you can get them to rip that shoddy midi =
>engine out and fix the compact feature for other stuff I'd have interest
=
>in.=20
>
>AA
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
>news:44448abc$1@linux...
> James,
> I'm with Deej. Auto delay comp and native effects on auxes
> would be easily worth the $300 to me. Major issues at this point.
>
> New effects are fun but there are so many third party jobs it's not
> that important to me. The Paris comp and NoLimit are just too good
> as they are. A side chain insert would be nice for gates and comps. =20
> Didn't somebody say they were doing that already? Hmmm?
> Tom
> "Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote in message =
>news:C069E3BF.A62A%tony@standinghampton.com...
> James,
>
> ALC would be first on my list also, along with support for VST =
>instruments,
> but you're right about those things being on the "very difficult" =
>side of
> things.
>
> As far as EDS effects, I'm actually very happy with what we've =
>already got.
> I'm not really missing anything.
>
> The places PARIS lacks for me is in VST support, and more flexible =
>routing
> and grouping. Again, these things will be hard to tackle.
>
> I'd support development for some more variety in comps, chorus,
> delays,modulation effects, etc. $100.00 for a good multi-pack?
>
> Definitely more for ALC and major improvements along those lines.
>
> Tony
>
> On 4/17/06 8:46 PM, in article 444444fa$1@linux, "James McCloskey"
> <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >=20
> > I'm kind of thinking out loud.
> >=20
> > What kind of native plugins would you guys like to see developed =
>for Paris?
> >=20
> >=20
> > What do you think you guys would be willing to pay for these =
>plugins?
> >=20
> > If we could get the algorithms ported from the Ensoniq DP pro, =
>what would
> > you guys be willing to pay for that?
> >=20
> > I'm not sure that this is possible, but, what would you guys be =
>willing to
> > pay for automatic plugin delay compensation?
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| Re: Some questions for everybody [message #67010 is a reply to message #66978] |
Tue, 18 April 2006 09:15 |
emarenot
Messages: 345
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I agree with others, a delay comp plug would be very helpful. I still
wonder about Matt's reverb plug and what became of it, but would it be
possible to make a reverb plug that was better than the stock Paris verbs,
but not a resource hog? I use the Room reverb and the Plates, but generally
only for short rooms, or in the "background." It would be to have something
whose quality would sit somewhere between the Paris verbs and and something
"higher end."
....and I hope the price might be somewhat below 300.00 -poor boy that I am.
Thanks James,
MR
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:444444fa$1@linux...
>
> I'm kind of thinking out loud.
>
> What kind of native plugins would you guys like to see developed for
Paris?
>
>
> What do you think you guys would be willing to pay for these plugins?
>
> If we could get the algorithms ported from the Ensoniq DP pro, what would
> you guys be willing to pay for that?
>
> I'm not sure that this is possible, but, what would you guys be willing to
> pay for automatic plugin delay compensation?
>
> If you could have somebody do coding work for Paris, what would you have
> them do? What would you be willing to pay for this software/service?
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> I may have somebody interested.
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| Re: Some questions for everybody [message #67011 is a reply to message #66990] |
Tue, 18 April 2006 06:18 |
Rod Lincoln
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Yeah, PDC and native fx on auxes for me also. Those, and fix the render bug
where everything gets timewhacked if there's a small gap in the edit.
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>Not for me. There aren't enough/powerful enough DSP chips. The DP Pro algos
>are gonna suck them right up. There's just not enough horsepower to run
>enough of these per submix to make it worth further efforts. I would support
>bringing whatever Chuck had on the boards to some sort of conclusion, but
>PDC is the bottom line for me, and second would be being able to buss native
>FX to the Paris auxes. Get these two things accomplished and it's a HUGE
>deal......for me at least.
>
>Deej
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:44445cfd@linux...
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>> Ok, the number one request would be latency compensation! This might
be a
>> tuff one, but Ok. What about the other questions? What about native
>Paris
>> plugins? This is probably where we'd start.
>>
>> A little more input please.
>>
>> "jim Phillips" <jmp@nospamnecounty.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >me 4th
>> >>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>> >>>>I'm not sure that this is possible, but, what would you guys be
>willing
>> >>to
>> >>>pay for automatic plugin delay compensation?
>> >>>
>> >>>I would pay $300.00 without even thinking twice, just for this one
>feature
>> >>>if I could use UAD-1 cards..
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> >>>news:444444fa$1@linux...
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I'm kind of thinking out loud.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> What kind of native plugins would you guys like to see developed
for
>> >>>Paris?
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> What do you think you guys would be willing to pay for these plugins?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> If we could get the algorithms ported from the Ensoniq DP pro, what
>> would
>> >>>> you guys be willing to pay for that?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I'm not sure that this is possible, but, what would you guys be
>willing
>> >>to
>> >>>> pay for automatic plugin delay compensation?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> If you could have somebody do coding work for Paris, what would you
>> have
>> >>>> them do? What would you be willing to pay for this software/service?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I may have somebody interested.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> James
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| Re: Some questions for everybody [message #67018 is a reply to message #67010] |
Tue, 18 April 2006 08:24 |
cujo
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Yip, I'd pay for delay comp!
also native on Auxes.
Also for the UPS..Kim, I'll donate!
"Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote:
>I agree with others, a delay comp plug would be very helpful. I still
>wonder about Matt's reverb plug and what became of it, but would it be
>possible to make a reverb plug that was better than the stock Paris verbs,
>but not a resource hog? I use the Room reverb and the Plates, but generally
>only for short rooms, or in the "background." It would be to have something
>whose quality would sit somewhere between the Paris verbs and and something
>"higher end."
>...and I hope the price might be somewhat below 300.00 -poor boy that I
am.
>Thanks James,
>MR
>
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:444444fa$1@linux...
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>> I'm kind of thinking out loud.
>>
>> What kind of native plugins would you guys like to see developed for
>Paris?
>>
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>> What do you think you guys would be willing to pay for these plugins?
>>
>> If we could get the algorithms ported from the Ensoniq DP pro, what would
>> you guys be willing to pay for that?
>>
>> I'm not sure that this is possible, but, what would you guys be willing
to
>> pay for automatic plugin delay compensation?
>>
>> If you could have somebody do coding work for Paris, what would you have
>> them do? What would you be willing to pay for this software/service?
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>> I may have somebody interested.
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| Re: Some questions for everybody [message #67034 is a reply to message #66990] |
Tue, 18 April 2006 13:19 |
excelav
Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit
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The DP Pro used the same ESP2 chips as Paris, so I don't think it would suck
up that much horsepower. Does anybody know how many ESP2 chips are in a
DP Pro?
Can any of you AU guys try to look up Mathew Craig?
Anybody know how to reach Kevin Monahan? He was doing some video production
company last time I heard.
I don't know what can be done, but if there is a chance that we can improve
Paris we should try.
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>Not for me. There aren't enough/powerful enough DSP chips. The DP Pro algos
>are gonna suck them right up. There's just not enough horsepower to run
>enough of these per submix to make it worth further efforts. I would support
>bringing whatever Chuck had on the boards to some sort of conclusion, but
>PDC is the bottom line for me, and second would be being able to buss native
>FX to the Paris auxes. Get these two things accomplished and it's a HUGE
>deal......for me at least.
>
>Deej
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:44445cfd@linux...
>>
>> Ok, the number one request would be latency compensation! This might
be a
>> tuff one, but Ok. What about the other questions? What about native
>Paris
>> plugins? This is probably where we'd start.
>>
>> A little more input please.
>>
>> "jim Phillips" <jmp@nospamnecounty.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >me 4th
>> >>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>> >>>>I'm not sure that this is possible, but, what would you guys be
>willing
>> >>to
>> >>>pay for automatic plugin delay compensation?
>> >>>
>> >>>I would pay $300.00 without even thinking twice, just for this one
>feature
>> >>>if I could use UAD-1 cards..
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> >>>news:444444fa$1@linux...
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I'm kind of thinking out loud.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> What kind of native plugins would you guys like to see developed
for
>> >>>Paris?
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> What do you think you guys would be willing to pay for these plugins?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> If we could get the algorithms ported from the Ensoniq DP pro, what
>> would
>> >>>> you guys be willing to pay for that?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I'm not sure that this is possible, but, what would you guys be
>willing
>> >>to
>> >>>> pay for automatic plugin delay compensation?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> If you could have somebody do coding work for Paris, what would you
>> have
>> >>>> them do? What would you be willing to pay for this software/service?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I may have somebody interested.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> James
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
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| Re: Some questions for everybody [message #67038 is a reply to message #67034] |
Tue, 18 April 2006 13:31 |
mike audet[1]
Messages: 129
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Hi James,
I contacted Matt about a year ago, and he had just moved to England. I asked
him about the mega verb, and he said that he just needed to get an online
payment/delivery system setup, and he would make it available. I never heard
from him after that.
About a month ago, I emailed him at every address that I had and could find.
I haven't heard back yet, but you never know.
Personally, I'm finishing up my second compuer science course so that I can
work on the effects. I'm hoping ot take a third this summer.
All the best,
Mike
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>The DP Pro used the same ESP2 chips as Paris, so I don't think it would
suck
>up that much horsepower. Does anybody know how many ESP2 chips are in
a
>DP Pro?
>
>Can any of you AU guys try to look up Mathew Craig?
>
>Anybody know how to reach Kevin Monahan? He was doing some video production
>company last time I heard.
>
>I don't know what can be done, but if there is a chance that we can improve
>Paris we should try.
>
>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>Not for me. There aren't enough/powerful enough DSP chips. The DP Pro algos
>>are gonna suck them right up. There's just not enough horsepower to run
>>enough of these per submix to make it worth further efforts. I would support
>>bringing whatever Chuck had on the boards to some sort of conclusion, but
>>PDC is the bottom line for me, and second would be being able to buss native
>>FX to the Paris auxes. Get these two things accomplished and it's a HUGE
>>deal......for me at least.
>>
>>Deej
>>
>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:44445cfd@linux...
>>>
>>> Ok, the number one request would be latency compensation! This might
>be a
>>> tuff one, but Ok. What about the other questions? What about native
>>Paris
>>> plugins? This is probably where we'd start.
>>>
>>> A little more input please.
>>>
>>> "jim Phillips" <jmp@nospamnecounty.net> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >me 4th
>>> >>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>> >>>>I'm not sure that this is possible, but, what would you guys be
>>willing
>>> >>to
>>> >>>pay for automatic plugin delay compensation?
>>> >>>
>>> >>>I would pay $300.00 without even thinking twice, just for this one
>>feature
>>> >>>if I could use UAD-1 cards..
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> >>>news:444444fa$1@linux...
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> I'm kind of thinking out loud.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> What kind of native plugins would you guys like to see developed
>for
>>> >>>Paris?
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> What do you think you guys would be willing to pay for these plugins?
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> If we could get the algorithms ported from the Ensoniq DP pro, what
>>> would
>>> >>>> you guys be willing to pay for that?
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> I'm not sure that this is possible, but, what would you guys be
>>willing
>>> >>to
>>> >>>> pay for automatic plugin delay compensation?
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> If you could have somebody do coding work for Paris, what would
you
>>> have
>>> >>>> them do? What would you be willing to pay for this software/service?
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> I may have somebody interested.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> James
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >
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| Re: Some questions for everybody [message #67046 is a reply to message #66999] |
Tue, 18 April 2006 16:37 |
Deej [1]
Messages: 2149
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>I think though that someone could build a VST plugin that could work as
delay compensator<
UAD has a VST delay compensator. The problem with it is that the delay it's
compensating for is *HUGE*. This puts the audible sound so far behind the
waveform that using automation is pretty much impossible.
Right now, I think Dimitrios has come about as close as we're going to get
with this using his ingenius coctail of wrappers and consoles. I haven't
tried it yet, but if 90 ms (M?L) is possible and it's possible to create a
32-48 track mix template with this combination of VST wrappers, etc.
inserted on each channel without too much CPU overhead , then this is major
and pretty much puts the automation issues to rest. This could be very
usable.
I've got virtually *zero* plugin delay working with Paris/Cubase hybrid rig,
but it is neither cheap nor simple.
Dimitrios method could, in theory, allow a template to be created with a VST
chainer which would allow multiple UAD plugins per channel running at the
same latency and at the same time a compensator could be inserted in this
scenario which would, when a preset is used, allow virtual delay
compensation by simply nudging a Paris track 100ms to the left in the
deitor. This is much simpler than the hoops I'm jumping through with flying
files back and forth between computers..........much much simpler. The only
issue for me would be CPU the overhead created by a 48 track mix timplate
with this stuvff inserted on each channel..
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:4444a563$1@linux...
>
> Hi,
> I would like to drop in too here...
>
> I am sure we could gather 100 people here willing to pay 300$ for the
delay
> compensation and aux DX/VST as global insert also.
>
> That makes around 30.000 $ which is sufficient in my own oppinion to
justify
> the work.
>
> But can someone do this without code ?
>
> I think chuck can enlighten us if he has any access to this.
>
> I think though that someone could build a VST plugin that could work as
delay
> compensator.
> That plugin could be loaded on every Paris audio track say at the bottom
> VST slot so every vst added on any audio track would "inform" all vst
instances
> of that plugin to delay all tracks for the amount needed.
> Maybe that more easy to do and would get paid a lot less than the above
amount
> of money.
> If I had the programming skills thats what I would do.
> Anyone knows programming ?
> I could give him more details about my idea...
> Regards,
> Dimitrios
>
> "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
> >
> >
> >Can't you use Wires to side chain Tom?
> >
> >For me, it is about getting the DSP algo's out to VST format, and =
> >topping my list is PDC. $300 for that?=20
> >Oh yeah, I'd go it. See if you can get them to rip that shoddy midi =
> >engine out and fix the compact feature for other stuff I'd have interest
> =
> >in.=20
> >
> >AA
> >
> > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
> >news:44448abc$1@linux...
> > James,
> > I'm with Deej. Auto delay comp and native effects on auxes
> > would be easily worth the $300 to me. Major issues at this point.
> >
> > New effects are fun but there are so many third party jobs it's not
> > that important to me. The Paris comp and NoLimit are just too good
> > as they are. A side chain insert would be nice for gates and comps.
=20
> > Didn't somebody say they were doing that already? Hmmm?
> > Tom
> > "Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote in message =
> >news:C069E3BF.A62A%tony@standinghampton.com...
> > James,
> >
> > ALC would be first on my list also, along with support for VST =
> >instruments,
> > but you're right about those things being on the "very difficult" =
> >side of
> > things.
> >
> > As far as EDS effects, I'm actually very happy with what we've =
> >already got.
> > I'm not really missing anything.
> >
> > The places PARIS lacks for me is in VST support, and more flexible =
> >routing
> > and grouping. Again, these things will be hard to tackle.
> >
> > I'd support development for some more variety in comps, chorus,
> > delays,modulation effects, etc. $100.00 for a good multi-pack?
> >
> > Definitely more for ALC and major improvements along those lines.
> >
> > Tony
> >
> > On 4/17/06 8:46 PM, in article 444444fa$1@linux, "James McCloskey"
> > <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >=20
> > > I'm kind of thinking out loud.
> > >=20
> > > What kind of native plugins would you guys like to see developed =
> >for Paris?
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > > What do you think you guys would be willing to pay for these =
> >plugins?
> > >=20
> > > If we could get the algorithms ported from the Ensoniq DP pro, =
> >what would
> > > you guys be willing to pay for that?
> > >=20
> > > I'm not sure that this is possible, but, what would you guys be =
> >willing to
> > > pay for automatic plugin delay compensation?
> > >=20
> > > If you could have somebody do coding work for Paris, what would =
> >you have
> > > them do? What would you be willing to pay for this =
> >software/service?
> > >=20
> > > I may have somebody interested.
> > >=20
> > > James
> >
> >
> >
> >I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> >http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
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> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>For me, it is about getting the DSP =
> >algo's out to=20
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> >feature for other stuff I'd have interest in. </FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>AA</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
> >style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > <DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
> > href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote =
> >in message=20
> > <A href=3D"news:44448abc$1@linux">news:44448abc$1@linux</A>...</DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>James,</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm with Deej. Auto delay comp =
> >and native=20
> > effects on auxes</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>would be easily worth the $300 to =
> >me. Major=20
> > issues at this point.</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>New effects are fun but there are so
> =
> >many third=20
> > party jobs it's not</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>that important to me. The Paris =
> >comp and=20
> > NoLimit are just too good</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>as they are. A side chain =
> >insert would be=20
> > nice for gates and comps. </FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Didn't somebody </FONT><FONT =
> >face=3DArial=20
> > size=3D2>say they were doing that already? Hmmm?</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> > <BLOCKQUOTE=20
> > style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > <DIV>"Tony Benson" <<A=20
> > =
> >href=3D"mailto:tony@standinghampton.com">tony@standinghampton.com</A>>=
> >=20
> > wrote in message <A=20
> > =
>
>href=3D"news:C069E3BF.A62A%tony@standinghampton.com">news:C069E3BF.A62A%t=
> >ony@standinghampton.com</A>...</DIV>James,<BR><BR>ALC=20
> > would be first on my list also, along with support for VST=20
> > instruments,<BR>but you're right about those things being on the =
> >"very=20
> > difficult" side of<BR>things.<BR><BR>As far as EDS effects, I'm =
> >actually=20
> > very happy with what we've already got.<BR>I'm not really missing=20
> > anything.<BR><BR>The places PARIS lacks for me is in VST support, =
> >and more=20
> > flexible routing<BR>and grouping. Again, these things will be hard =
> >to=20
> > tackle.<BR><BR>I'd support development for some more variety in =
> >comps,=20
> > chorus,<BR>delays,modulation effects, etc. $100.00 for a good=20
> > multi-pack?<BR><BR>Definitely more for ALC and major improvements =
> >along=20
> > those lines.<BR><BR>Tony<BR><BR>On 4/17/06 8:46 PM, in article <A=20
> > href=3D"mailto:444444fa$1@linux">444444fa$1@linux</A>, "James=20
> > McCloskey"<BR><<A=20
> > href=3D"mailto:excelsm@hotmail.com">excelsm@hotmail.com</A>>=20
> > wrote:<BR><BR>> <BR>> I'm kind of thinking out loud.<BR>> =
> ><BR>>=20
> > What kind of native plugins would you guys like to see developed for
> =
> >
> > Paris?<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> What do you think you guys would be =
> >willing=20
> > to pay for these plugins?<BR>> <BR>> If we could get the =
> >algorithms=20
> > ported from the Ensoniq DP pro, what would<BR>> you guys be =
> >willing to=20
> > pay for that?<BR>> <BR>> I'm not sure that this is possible, =
> >but, what=20
> > would you guys be willing to<BR>> pay for automatic plugin delay=20
> > compensation?<BR>> <BR>> If you could have somebody do coding =
> >work for=20
> > Paris, what would you have<BR>> them do? What would you be =
> >willing=20
> > to pay for this software/service?<BR>> <BR>> I may have =
> >somebody=20
> > interested.<BR>> <BR>> James<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
> ><DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, =
> >and=20
> >you?<BR><A=20
>
>href=3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
> >.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
> >
> >
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| Re: Some questions for everybody [message #67048 is a reply to message #67046] |
Tue, 18 April 2006 16:40 |
Deej [1]
Messages: 2149
Registered: January 2006
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oops.......sorry Dimitrios....I'm talking to you like you're the third
person here. I meant to be answering Tony's original subthread here.
;o)
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:444579d1@linux...
> >I think though that someone could build a VST plugin that could work as
> delay compensator<
>
> UAD has a VST delay compensator. The problem with it is that the delay
it's
> compensating for is *HUGE*. This puts the audible sound so far behind the
> waveform that using automation is pretty much impossible.
>
> Right now, I think Dimitrios has come about as close as we're going to get
> with this using his ingenius coctail of wrappers and consoles. I haven't
> tried it yet, but if 90 ms (M?L) is possible and it's possible to create a
> 32-48 track mix template with this combination of VST wrappers, etc.
> inserted on each channel without too much CPU overhead , then this is
major
> and pretty much puts the automation issues to rest. This could be very
> usable.
>
> I've got virtually *zero* plugin delay working with Paris/Cubase hybrid
rig,
> but it is neither cheap nor simple.
>
> Dimitrios method could, in theory, allow a template to be created with a
VST
> chainer which would allow multiple UAD plugins per channel running at the
> same latency and at the same time a compensator could be inserted in this
> scenario which would, when a preset is used, allow virtual delay
> compensation by simply nudging a Paris track 100ms to the left in the
> deitor. This is much simpler than the hoops I'm jumping through with
flying
> files back and forth between computers..........much much simpler. The
only
> issue for me would be CPU the overhead created by a 48 track mix timplate
> with this stuvff inserted on each channel..
>
>
> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:4444a563$1@linux...
> >
> > Hi,
> > I would like to drop in too here...
> >
> > I am sure we could gather 100 people here willing to pay 300$ for the
> delay
> > compensation and aux DX/VST as global insert also.
> >
> > That makes around 30.000 $ which is sufficient in my own oppinion to
> justify
> > the work.
> >
> > But can someone do this without code ?
> >
> > I think chuck can enlighten us if he has any access to this.
> >
> > I think though that someone could build a VST plugin that could work as
> delay
> > compensator.
> > That plugin could be loaded on every Paris audio track say at the bottom
> > VST slot so every vst added on any audio track would "inform" all vst
> instances
> > of that plugin to delay all tracks for the amount needed.
> > Maybe that more easy to do and would get paid a lot less than the above
> amount
> > of money.
> > If I had the programming skills thats what I would do.
> > Anyone knows programming ?
> > I could give him more details about my idea...
> > Regards,
> > Dimitrios
> >
> > "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >Can't you use Wires to side chain Tom?
> > >
> > >For me, it is about getting the DSP algo's out to VST format, and =
> > >topping my list is PDC. $300 for that?=20
> > >Oh yeah, I'd go it. See if you can get them to rip that shoddy midi =
> > >engine out and fix the compact feature for other stuff I'd have
interest
> > =
> > >in.=20
> > >
> > >AA
> > >
> > > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
> > >news:44448abc$1@linux...
> > > James,
> > > I'm with Deej. Auto delay comp and native effects on auxes
> > > would be easily worth the $300 to me. Major issues at this point.
> > >
> > > New effects are fun but there are so many third party jobs it's not
> > > that important to me. The Paris comp and NoLimit are just too good
> > > as they are. A side chain insert would be nice for gates and comps.
> =20
> > > Didn't somebody say they were doing that already? Hmmm?
> > > Tom
> > > "Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote in message =
> > >news:C069E3BF.A62A%tony@standinghampton.com...
> > > James,
> > >
> > > ALC would be first on my list also, along with support for VST =
> > >instruments,
> > > but you're right about those things being on the "very difficult" =
> > >side of
> > > things.
> > >
> > > As far as EDS effects, I'm actually very happy with what we've =
> > >already got.
> > > I'm not really missing anything.
> > >
> > > The places PARIS lacks for me is in VST support, and more flexible
=
> > >routing
> > > and grouping. Again, these things will be hard to tackle.
> > >
> > > I'd support development for some more variety in comps, chorus,
> > > delays,modulation effects, etc. $100.00 for a good multi-pack?
> > >
> > > Definitely more for ALC and major improvements along those lines.
> > >
> > > Tony
> > >
> > > On 4/17/06 8:46 PM, in article 444444fa$1@linux, "James McCloskey"
> > > <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >=20
> > > > I'm kind of thinking out loud.
> > > >=20
> > > > What kind of native plugins would you guys like to see developed
=
> > >for Paris?
> > > >=20
> > > >=20
> > > > What do you think you guys would be willing to pay for these =
> > >plugins?
> > > >=20
> > > > If we could get the algorithms ported from the Ensoniq DP pro, =
> > >what would
> > > > you guys be willing to pay for that?
> > > >=20
> > > > I'm not sure that this is possible, but, what would you guys be =
> > >willing to
> > > > pay for automatic plugin delay compensation?
> > > >=20
> > > > If you could have somebody do coding work for Paris, what would =
> > >you have
> > > > them do? What would you be willing to pay for this =
> > >software/service?
> > > >=20
> > > > I may have somebody interested.
> > > >=20
> > > > James
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> > >http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
> > >
> > ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> > ><HTML><HEAD>
> > ><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
> > >charset=3Diso-8859-1">
> > ><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.5296.0" name=3DGENERATOR>
> > ><STYLE></STYLE>
> > ></HEAD>
> > ><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Can't you use Wires to side chain =
> > >Tom?</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>For me, it is about getting the DSP =
> > >algo's out to=20
> > >VST format, and topping my list is PDC. $300 for that? <BR>Oh yeah, I'd
> > =
> > >go it.=20
> > >See if you can get them to rip that shoddy midi engine out and fix the
=
> > >compact=20
> > >feature for other stuff I'd have interest in. </FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>AA</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > ><BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
> > >style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
> > >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > > <DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
> > > href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote =
> > >in message=20
> > > <A href=3D"news:44448abc$1@linux">news:44448abc$1@linux</A>...</DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>James,</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm with Deej. Auto delay comp =
> > >and native=20
> > > effects on auxes</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>would be easily worth the $300 to =
> > >me. Major=20
> > > issues at this point.</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>New effects are fun but there are so
> > =
> > >many third=20
> > > party jobs it's not</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>that important to me. The Paris =
> > >comp and=20
> > > NoLimit are just too good</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>as they are. A side chain =
> > >insert would be=20
> > > nice for gates and comps. </FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Didn't somebody </FONT><FONT =
> > >face=3DArial=20
> > > size=3D2>say they were doing that already? Hmmm?</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> > > <BLOCKQUOTE=20
> > > style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
> > >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > > <DIV>"Tony Benson" <<A=20
> > > =
> > >href=3D"mailto:tony@standinghampton.com">tony@standinghampton.com</A>>=
> > >=20
> > > wrote in message <A=20
> > > =
> >
>
>href=3D"news:C069E3BF.A62A%tony@standinghampton.com">news:C069E3BF.A62A%t=
> > >ony@standinghampton.com</A>...</DIV>James,<BR><BR>ALC=20
> > > would be first on my list also, along with support for VST=20
> > > instruments,<BR>but you're right about those things being on the =
> > >"very=20
> > > difficult" side of<BR>things.<BR><BR>As far as EDS effects, I'm =
> > >actually=20
> > > very happy with what we've already got.<BR>I'm not really
missing=20
> > > anything.<BR><BR>The places PARIS lacks for me is in VST support, =
> > >and more=20
> > > flexible routing<BR>and grouping. Again, these things will be hard
=
> > >to=20
> > > tackle.<BR><BR>I'd support development for some more variety in =
> > >comps,=20
> > > chorus,<BR>delays,modulation effects, etc. $100.00 for a good=20
> > > multi-pack?<BR><BR>Definitely more for ALC and major improvements =
> > >along=20
> > > those lines.<BR><BR>Tony<BR><BR>On 4/17/06 8:46 PM, in article
<A=20
> > > href=3D"mailto:444444fa$1@linux">444444fa$1@linux</A>, "James=20
> > > McCloskey"<BR><<A=20
> > > href=3D"mailto:excelsm@hotmail.com">excelsm@hotmail.com</A>>=20
> > > wrote:<BR><BR>> <BR>> I'm kind of thinking out loud.<BR>> =
> > ><BR>>=20
> > > What kind of native plugins would you guys like to see developed
for
> > =
> > >
> > > Paris?<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> What do you think you guys would be =
> > >willing=20
> > > to pay for these plugins?<BR>> <BR>> If we could get the =
> > >algorithms=20
> > > ported from the Ensoniq DP pro, what would<BR>> you guys be =
> > >willing to=20
> > > pay for that?<BR>> <BR>> I'm not sure that this is possible, =
> > >but, what=20
> > > would you guys be willing to<BR>> pay for automatic plugin delay=20
> > > compensation?<BR>> <BR>> If you could have somebody do coding =
> > >work for=20
> > > Paris, what would you have<BR>> them do? What would you be =
> > >willing=20
> > > to pay for this software/service?<BR>> <BR>> I may have =
> > >somebody=20
> > > interested.<BR>> <BR>> James<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
> > ><DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, =
> > >and=20
> > >you?<BR><A=20
> >
>
>href=3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
> > >.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
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