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- OT, sort of: cleaning up analog connections [message #77882] Thu, 04 January 2007 12:24 Go to next message
duncan is currently offline  duncan   UNITED STATES
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Wondering if anybody can recommend some type of Miracle Spray or Gunk
Remover to refresh the I/O jacks on my old Mackie board -- it's gotten
a little noisy lately, and I'd like to get it cleaned up before
selling it.

-- thanks -- chas.
- Re: OT, sort of: cleaning up analog connections [message #77889 is a reply to message #77882] Thu, 04 January 2007 14:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gene lennon is currently offline  gene lennon
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Chas. Duncan <duncan5199ATsbcglobalDOTnet@> wrote:
>Wondering if anybody can recommend some type of Miracle Spray or Gunk
>Remover to refresh the I/O jacks on my old Mackie board -- it's gotten
>a little noisy lately, and I'd like to get it cleaned up before
>selling it.
>
>-- thanks -- chas.


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- Re: OT, sort of: cleaning up analog connections [message #77890 is a reply to message #77882] Thu, 04 January 2007 13:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Doug Wellington is currently offline  Doug Wellington   UNITED STATES
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"Chas. Duncan" <duncan5199ATsbcglobalDOTnet@> writes:
> Wondering if anybody can recommend some type of Miracle Spray or Gunk
> Remover to refresh the I/O jacks on my old Mackie board -- it's gotten
> a little noisy lately, and I'd like to get it cleaned up before selling
> it.

Silly as it may seem... If you're talking about the 1/4" jacks, I
occasionally use one of those rifle cleaning brushes with a bit of WD-40
followed by a pass with one of those little pieces of cotton cloth. I think
they call the cloth a "patch" and the rod that holds the piece of cotton
cloth a "patch loop", which makes the synth programmer in me grin... (Make
sure to use a patch loop and not a jag, otherwise it'll be hard to get the
cloth back out!)

I don't know what jacks the Mackie uses, but for really bad problems, I've
been known to open up the cover and use an auto ignition point file on
certain things... :-)

Doug (Point files aren't useful for all that much else any more...)

http://www.parisfaqs.com


- Re: OT, sort of: cleaning up analog connections [message #77909 is a reply to message #77889] Fri, 05 January 2007 01:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tom Bruhl is currently offline  Tom Bruhl   UNITED STATES
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Hey Gene,
What about a burnishing brush or injectors for TTL patchbays?
What's the proven method. Mine are 5 years old and starting to talk =
back.

I found this. Is it good?
http://www.globalvideoconf.com/Page_219.pdf

Should I use Deoxit and the brush and be done with it?
Thanks,
Tom



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Chas. Duncan <duncan5199ATsbcglobalDOTnet@> wrote:
>Wondering if anybody can recommend some type of Miracle Spray or Gunk
>Remover to refresh the I/O jacks on my old Mackie board -- it's =
gotten
>a little noisy lately, and I'd like to get it cleaned up before
>selling it.
>
>-- thanks -- chas.


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Gene


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- Re: OT, sort of: cleaning up analog connections [message #77912 is a reply to message #77909] Fri, 05 January 2007 09:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gene lennon is currently offline  gene lennon
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"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Hey Gene,
>What about a burnishing brush or injectors for TTL patchbays?
>What's the proven method. Mine are 5 years old and starting to talk =
>back.
>
>I found this. Is it good?
>http://www.globalvideoconf.com/Page_219.pdf
>
>Should I use Deoxit and the brush and be done with it?
>Thanks,
>Tom
>

I use a burnisher and an injector. You need to be very light handed with
a burnisher and only use it a few times over the entire life of the patchbay,
but they do a good job. A quick twist with a burnisher once every year or
so followed by some DEOXIT, is the best method I know. The problem is usually
the normals, which are not addressed by burnishing and are closed tight when
you spray. An injector can help somewhat, but if you have noisy normals,
you need to clean the bay by hand :-(
I also insert and twist. (No comments please.)
Gene
- Re: OT, sort of: cleaning up analog connections [message #77920 is a reply to message #77890] Fri, 05 January 2007 09:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
duncan is currently offline  duncan   UNITED STATES
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OK then, off to the gun shop... (Needed ammo anyway -- can never have
too much on hand, right?)

Seriously, sounds like a good approach -- thanks -- chas.

On Thu, 4 Jan 2007 14:49:28 -0700, "Doug Wellington"
<doug@parisfaqs.com> wrote:

>"Chas. Duncan" <duncan5199ATsbcglobalDOTnet@> writes:
>> Wondering if anybody can recommend some type of Miracle Spray or Gunk
>> Remover to refresh the I/O jacks on my old Mackie board -- it's gotten
>> a little noisy lately, and I'd like to get it cleaned up before selling
>> it.
>
>Silly as it may seem... If you're talking about the 1/4" jacks, I
>occasionally use one of those rifle cleaning brushes with a bit of WD-40
>followed by a pass with one of those little pieces of cotton cloth. I think
>they call the cloth a "patch" and the rod that holds the piece of cotton
>cloth a "patch loop", which makes the synth programmer in me grin... (Make
>sure to use a patch loop and not a jag, otherwise it'll be hard to get the
>cloth back out!)
>
>I don't know what jacks the Mackie uses, but for really bad problems, I've
>been known to open up the cover and use an auto ignition point file on
>certain things... :-)
>
>Doug (Point files aren't useful for all that much else any more...)
>
>http://www.parisfaqs.com
>
- Re: OT, sort of: cleaning up analog connections [message #77926 is a reply to message #77912] Fri, 05 January 2007 12:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
dc[3] is currently offline  dc[3]
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Zero residue contact cleaner ONLY.

No Deoxit ever. And nothing else that leaves anything on the contacts.

Here's what we use:

http://www.techspray.com/images/167712f.gif

DC
- Re: OT, sort of: cleaning up analog connections [message #77927 is a reply to message #77926] Fri, 05 January 2007 11:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
EK Sound is currently offline  EK Sound   CANADA
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Liquid Freon works the best... oh well... ;-)

David.

DC wrote:

> Zero residue contact cleaner ONLY.
>
> No Deoxit ever. And nothing else that leaves anything on the contacts.
>
> Here's what we use:
>
> http://www.techspray.com/images/167712f.gif
>
> DC
- Re: OT, sort of: cleaning up analog connections [message #77933 is a reply to message #77926] Fri, 05 January 2007 11:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jamie K is currently offline  Jamie K   UNITED STATES
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Thanks Don, that might be just the ticked for the Buchla (see the "you
guys are still using PARIS" thread).

Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com


DC wrote:
> Zero residue contact cleaner ONLY.
>
> No Deoxit ever. And nothing else that leaves anything on the contacts.
>
> Here's what we use:
>
> http://www.techspray.com/images/167712f.gif
>
> DC
- Re: OT, sort of: cleaning up analog connections [message #77938 is a reply to message #77926] Fri, 05 January 2007 13:59 Go to previous message
gene lennon is currently offline  gene lennon
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"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>
>Zero residue contact cleaner ONLY.
>
>No Deoxit ever. And nothing else that leaves anything on the contacts.
>
>Here's what we use:
>
>http://www.techspray.com/images/167712f.gif
>
>DC


I was historically in the school that said use only Zero residue cleaners.
I changed my mind after doing the following test:

Take an old computer card with a dirty edge connector.

Clean one half with a Dichlorofluoroethane based cleaner. (Techspray and
Radio Shack both use this as the primary ingredient in their cleaners.)

Clean the other half with Deoxit.

If you look close you can see the difference in the effectiveness of the
oxidation cleaning. This is measurable. Wait two weeks and check the connector.
You will see (and can measure the fast reassurance of oxidation on the Dichlorofluoroethane
side.) The Deoxit side resists oxidation for months in any normal environment.
I have not found that the small amount of residue left attracts dust or other
contaminants that could affect the electrical properties the way oxidation
will.

It is true that different metals will have different oxidation characteristic,
but copper and brass (still used in many patchbays), have similar issues
with quick oxidation rates at room temperature. For gold or nickel-plated,
I would go with the Techspray.


Just my opinion.

Gene
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