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NS10m monitors [message #71459] Sat, 19 August 2006 12:17 Go to next message
Mike Audet is currently offline  Mike Audet
Messages: 294
Registered: December 2008
Senior Member
Hi Everyone,

I just thought I'd post because I just got a set of the orginal NS10M speakers,
and they are awesome! I've never had a mix translate so well in all my life.
I can hear the reverbs better. I can fix probelms in the mids that I couldn't
hear before. The detail in incredible.

These little babies are in every studio because they are fantastic. Don't
believe the hype that they suck. I don't know what's wrong with people who
bash these things.

If you don't own a set of these, go buy one before you die! I would honestly
take a bullet before giving these things up.

Mike
Re: NS10m monitors [message #71471 is a reply to message #71459] Sat, 19 August 2006 18:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
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Mike, while I do think that the mids are very clear (proper placement given,
they have a great image) and translate well - be real careful of anything
under about 100Hz... seriously man. I used a set of those for years, and
ended up having to add a sub to the system due to kick and sub-bass
problems.

AA


"Mike Audet" <mike@mikeF-SPAMaudet.com> wrote in message
news:44e763e3$1@linux...
>
> Hi Everyone,
>
> I just thought I'd post because I just got a set of the orginal NS10M
> speakers,
> and they are awesome! I've never had a mix translate so well in all my
> life.
> I can hear the reverbs better. I can fix probelms in the mids that I
> couldn't
> hear before. The detail in incredible.
>
> These little babies are in every studio because they are fantastic. Don't
> believe the hype that they suck. I don't know what's wrong with people
> who
> bash these things.
>
> If you don't own a set of these, go buy one before you die! I would
> honestly
> take a bullet before giving these things up.
>
> Mike
Re: NS10m monitors [message #71472 is a reply to message #71471] Sat, 19 August 2006 18:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dubya Mark Wilson is currently offline  Dubya Mark Wilson   UNITED STATES
Messages: 108
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Yeah, and on top of that, a lot of good ears begin to fatigue after 3 hours
use on them. There goes all that wonderful referencing.

W.


"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
news:44e7b5d1$1@linux...
> Mike, while I do think that the mids are very clear (proper placement
> given, they have a great image) and translate well - be real careful of
> anything under about 100Hz... seriously man. I used a set of those for
> years, and ended up having to add a sub to the system due to kick and
> sub-bass problems.
>
> AA
>
>
> "Mike Audet" <mike@mikeF-SPAMaudet.com> wrote in message
> news:44e763e3$1@linux...
>>
>> Hi Everyone,
>>
>> I just thought I'd post because I just got a set of the orginal NS10M
>> speakers,
>> and they are awesome! I've never had a mix translate so well in all my
>> life.
>> I can hear the reverbs better. I can fix probelms in the mids that I
>> couldn't
>> hear before. The detail in incredible.
>>
>> These little babies are in every studio because they are fantastic.
>> Don't
>> believe the hype that they suck. I don't know what's wrong with people
>> who
>> bash these things.
>>
>> If you don't own a set of these, go buy one before you die! I would
>> honestly
>> take a bullet before giving these things up.
>>
>> Mike
>
>
Re: NS10m monitors [message #71475 is a reply to message #71472] Sat, 19 August 2006 19:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mike audet[1] is currently offline  mike audet[1]
Messages: 129
Registered: February 2006
Senior Member
I wonder how much of the ear fatigue applies to the studio series, because
these really aren't all that bright, at least not at the really high end.
And, I don't monitor at high volumes. I guess time will tell.

As for the low end, I am in the market for a sub. :)

But, I started mixing with these, and it was like putting on an old, comfortable
pair of shoes. I just knew them instantly. My first crack at a mix on them
sounded exactly the same in the car. It was a perfect translation. I love
thses things.

There are so many people who bash these speakers, but I am so glad to have
them and wanted to though my 2 cents into the debate about them.

All the best,

Mike

"Dubya Mark Wilson" <mark.xspam@avidrecording.com> wrote:
>Yeah, and on top of that, a lot of good ears begin to fatigue after 3 hours

>use on them. There goes all that wonderful referencing.
>
>W.
>
>
>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>news:44e7b5d1$1@linux...
>> Mike, while I do think that the mids are very clear (proper placement

>> given, they have a great image) and translate well - be real careful of

>> anything under about 100Hz... seriously man. I used a set of those for

>> years, and ended up having to add a sub to the system due to kick and

>> sub-bass problems.
>>
>> AA
>>
>>
>> "Mike Audet" <mike@mikeF-SPAMaudet.com> wrote in message
>> news:44e763e3$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>
>>> I just thought I'd post because I just got a set of the orginal NS10M

>>> speakers,
>>> and they are awesome! I've never had a mix translate so well in all
my
>>> life.
>>> I can hear the reverbs better. I can fix probelms in the mids that I

>>> couldn't
>>> hear before. The detail in incredible.
>>>
>>> These little babies are in every studio because they are fantastic.
>>> Don't
>>> believe the hype that they suck. I don't know what's wrong with people

>>> who
>>> bash these things.
>>>
>>> If you don't own a set of these, go buy one before you die! I would

>>> honestly
>>> take a bullet before giving these things up.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>
>>
>
>
Re: NS10m monitors [message #71493 is a reply to message #71475] Sun, 20 August 2006 10:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John Macy is currently offline  John Macy
Messages: 242
Registered: April 2006
Senior Member
I have been using NS10's pretty much exclusively since'the early 80's when
they first came out. When you live with them long enough, you can figure
out the low bass just by watching the cones... That said, I added a sub
to them aroung 2000, and I
really like the combo. I have also used Tannoys (8") for about that
long, too, and the combo works nice. I have the Central Station
for monitoring, with the adjustable sub out, and use it on both sets, though
I love the ablilty to easily turn it off, too.

As for fatigue, I can;t begin to count the number of 12 hour + days I have
spent on them and don't feel fatigued, and my ears test out just fine. I
do monitor very quietly, and if certain playbacks need to be loud, I usually
switch to the Tannoys.

Love the way they translate...



"Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote:
>
>I wonder how much of the ear fatigue applies to the studio series, because
>these really aren't all that bright, at least not at the really high end.
> And, I don't monitor at high volumes. I guess time will tell.
>
>As for the low end, I am in the market for a sub. :)
>
>But, I started mixing with these, and it was like putting on an old, comfortable
>pair of shoes. I just knew them instantly. My first crack at a mix on
them
>sounded exactly the same in the car. It was a perfect translation. I love
>thses things.
>
>There are so many people who bash these speakers, but I am so glad to have
>them and wanted to though my 2 cents into the debate about them.
>
>All the best,
>
>Mike
>
>"Dubya Mark Wilson" <mark.xspam@avidrecording.com> wrote:
>>Yeah, and on top of that, a lot of good ears begin to fatigue after 3 hours
>
>>use on them. There goes all that wonderful referencing.
>>
>>W.
>>
>>
>>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>news:44e7b5d1$1@linux...
>>> Mike, while I do think that the mids are very clear (proper placement
>
>>> given, they have a great image) and translate well - be real careful
of
>
>>> anything under about 100Hz... seriously man. I used a set of those for
>
>>> years, and ended up having to add a sub to the system due to kick and
>
>>> sub-bass problems.
>>>
>>> AA
>>>
>>>
>>> "Mike Audet" <mike@mikeF-SPAMaudet.com> wrote in message
>>> news:44e763e3$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>>
>>>> I just thought I'd post because I just got a set of the orginal NS10M
>
>>>> speakers,
>>>> and they are awesome! I've never had a mix translate so well in all
>my
>>>> life.
>>>> I can hear the reverbs better. I can fix probelms in the mids that
I
>
>>>> couldn't
>>>> hear before. The detail in incredible.
>>>>
>>>> These little babies are in every studio because they are fantastic.

>>>> Don't
>>>> believe the hype that they suck. I don't know what's wrong with people
>
>>>> who
>>>> bash these things.
>>>>
>>>> If you don't own a set of these, go buy one before you die! I would
>
>>>> honestly
>>>> take a bullet before giving these things up.
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
Re: NS10m monitors [message #71495 is a reply to message #71459] Sun, 20 August 2006 11:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sarah is currently offline  Sarah   UNITED STATES
Messages: 608
Registered: February 2007
Senior Member
We have a pair of NS10M's along with our Mackie HR824, and my favorites, the
Auratones. I use the NS10s occasionally as a sort of diagnostic tool, like
noise detectors or something, but I can't stand to listen to them. Ow.

Sarah
www.sarahtonin.com/wayward.htm

Mike Audet" <mike@mikeF-SPAMaudet.com> wrote in message
news:44e763e3$1@linux...
>
> Hi Everyone,
>
> I just thought I'd post because I just got a set of the orginal NS10M
> speakers,
> and they are awesome! I've never had a mix translate so well in all my
> life.
> I can hear the reverbs better. I can fix probelms in the mids that I
> couldn't
> hear before. The detail in incredible.
>
> These little babies are in every studio because they are fantastic. Don't
> believe the hype that they suck. I don't know what's wrong with people
> who
> bash these things.
>
> If you don't own a set of these, go buy one before you die! I would
> honestly
> take a bullet before giving these things up.
>
> Mike
Re: NS10m monitors [message #71498 is a reply to message #71493] Sun, 20 August 2006 11:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mike Audet is currently offline  Mike Audet
Messages: 294
Registered: December 2008
Senior Member
Hi John,

I'm glad to hear I'm not alone. :)

I wonder if a lot of the criticism is actually directed at the Studio version.
It's response curve looks like it extends more into the high, high end and
has less of a mid bump. Who knows.

I never thought I'd say this about anything, but I love them more than PARIS.
:)

Cheers!

Mike


"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote:
>
>I have been using NS10's pretty much exclusively since'the early 80's when
>they first came out. When you live with them long enough, you can figure
>out the low bass just by watching the cones... That said, I added a sub
>to them aroung 2000, and I
>really like the combo. I have also used Tannoys (8") for about that
>long, too, and the combo works nice. I have the Central Station
>for monitoring, with the adjustable sub out, and use it on both sets, though
>I love the ablilty to easily turn it off, too.
>
>As for fatigue, I can;t begin to count the number of 12 hour + days I have
>spent on them and don't feel fatigued, and my ears test out just fine.
I
>do monitor very quietly, and if certain playbacks need to be loud, I usually
>switch to the Tannoys.
>
>Love the way they translate...
>
>
>
>"Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote:
>>
>>I wonder how much of the ear fatigue applies to the studio series, because
>>these really aren't all that bright, at least not at the really high end.
>> And, I don't monitor at high volumes. I guess time will tell.
>>
>>As for the low end, I am in the market for a sub. :)
>>
>>But, I started mixing with these, and it was like putting on an old, comfortable
>>pair of shoes. I just knew them instantly. My first crack at a mix on
>them
>>sounded exactly the same in the car. It was a perfect translation. I
love
>>thses things.
>>
>>There are so many people who bash these speakers, but I am so glad to have
>>them and wanted to though my 2 cents into the debate about them.
>>
>>All the best,
>>
>>Mike
>>
>>"Dubya Mark Wilson" <mark.xspam@avidrecording.com> wrote:
>>>Yeah, and on top of that, a lot of good ears begin to fatigue after 3
hours
>>
>>>use on them. There goes all that wonderful referencing.
>>>
>>>W.
>>>
>>>
>>>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>>news:44e7b5d1$1@linux...
>>>> Mike, while I do think that the mids are very clear (proper placement
>>
>>>> given, they have a great image) and translate well - be real careful
>of
>>
>>>> anything under about 100Hz... seriously man. I used a set of those for
>>
>>>> years, and ended up having to add a sub to the system due to kick and
>>
>>>> sub-bass problems.
>>>>
>>>> AA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Mike Audet" <mike@mikeF-SPAMaudet.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:44e763e3$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> I just thought I'd post because I just got a set of the orginal NS10M
>>
>>>>> speakers,
>>>>> and they are awesome! I've never had a mix translate so well in all
>>my
>>>>> life.
>>>>> I can hear the reverbs better. I can fix probelms in the mids that
>I
>>
>>>>> couldn't
>>>>> hear before. The detail in incredible.
>>>>>
>>>>> These little babies are in every studio because they are fantastic.
>
>>>>> Don't
>>>>> believe the hype that they suck. I don't know what's wrong with people
>>
>>>>> who
>>>>> bash these things.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you don't own a set of these, go buy one before you die! I would
>>
>>>>> honestly
>>>>> take a bullet before giving these things up.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: NS10m monitors [message #71502 is a reply to message #71498] Sun, 20 August 2006 13:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John Macy is currently offline  John Macy
Messages: 242
Registered: April 2006
Senior Member
I also think the main reason people don't like them is they underpower them--when
you light them up with some good power, like 250 watts per side, the completely
change for the better. Both of my pairs are powered with Yamaha P2201's,
about 250/side.

You can't imagine the difference...


"Mike Audet" <mike@mikeF-SPAMaudet.com> wrote:
>
>Hi John,
>
>I'm glad to hear I'm not alone. :)
>
>I wonder if a lot of the criticism is actually directed at the Studio version.
> It's response curve looks like it extends more into the high, high end
and
>has less of a mid bump. Who knows.
>
>I never thought I'd say this about anything, but I love them more than PARIS.
>:)
>
>Cheers!
>
>Mike
>
>
>"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote:
>>
>>I have been using NS10's pretty much exclusively since'the early 80's when
>>they first came out. When you live with them long enough, you can figure
>>out the low bass just by watching the cones... That said, I added a sub
>>to them aroung 2000, and I
>>really like the combo. I have also used Tannoys (8") for about that
>>long, too, and the combo works nice. I have the Central Station
>>for monitoring, with the adjustable sub out, and use it on both sets, though
>>I love the ablilty to easily turn it off, too.
>>
>>As for fatigue, I can;t begin to count the number of 12 hour + days I have
>>spent on them and don't feel fatigued, and my ears test out just fine.

>I
>>do monitor very quietly, and if certain playbacks need to be loud, I usually
>>switch to the Tannoys.
>>
>>Love the way they translate...
>>
>>
>>
>>"Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote:
>>>
>>>I wonder how much of the ear fatigue applies to the studio series, because
>>>these really aren't all that bright, at least not at the really high end.
>>> And, I don't monitor at high volumes. I guess time will tell.
>>>
>>>As for the low end, I am in the market for a sub. :)
>>>
>>>But, I started mixing with these, and it was like putting on an old, comfortable
>>>pair of shoes. I just knew them instantly. My first crack at a mix on
>>them
>>>sounded exactly the same in the car. It was a perfect translation. I
>love
>>>thses things.
>>>
>>>There are so many people who bash these speakers, but I am so glad to
have
>>>them and wanted to though my 2 cents into the debate about them.
>>>
>>>All the best,
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>
>>>"Dubya Mark Wilson" <mark.xspam@avidrecording.com> wrote:
>>>>Yeah, and on top of that, a lot of good ears begin to fatigue after 3
>hours
>>>
>>>>use on them. There goes all that wonderful referencing.
>>>>
>>>>W.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>>>news:44e7b5d1$1@linux...
>>>>> Mike, while I do think that the mids are very clear (proper placement
>>>
>>>>> given, they have a great image) and translate well - be real careful
>>of
>>>
>>>>> anything under about 100Hz... seriously man. I used a set of those
for
>>>
>>>>> years, and ended up having to add a sub to the system due to kick and
>>>
>>>>> sub-bass problems.
>>>>>
>>>>> AA
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Mike Audet" <mike@mikeF-SPAMaudet.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:44e763e3$1@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just thought I'd post because I just got a set of the orginal NS10M
>>>
>>>>>> speakers,
>>>>>> and they are awesome! I've never had a mix translate so well in all
>>>my
>>>>>> life.
>>>>>> I can hear the reverbs better. I can fix probelms in the mids that
>>I
>>>
>>>>>> couldn't
>>>>>> hear before. The detail in incredible.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> These little babies are in every studio because they are fantastic.
>>
>>>>>> Don't
>>>>>> believe the hype that they suck. I don't know what's wrong with people
>>>
>>>>>> who
>>>>>> bash these things.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you don't own a set of these, go buy one before you die! I would
>>>
>>>>>> honestly
>>>>>> take a bullet before giving these things up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: NS10m monitors [message #71505 is a reply to message #71459] Sun, 20 August 2006 14:24 Go to previous message
tonehouse is currently offline  tonehouse   UNITED STATES
Messages: 184
Registered: July 2006
Senior Member
I have a pair in my living room that I play back mixes through..to give my
mix room and speakers a break...they are totally "normal" speakers..in a
good way..not for "hiphop" or rap "sub-bass" unless you do have a
subwoofer..and like some one said,about 250 watts per side,they can
crank...I haven't blown them up in over 20 years..Alot of big selling tunes
have been mixed with those babys...Has anyone bought the new Yamaha "NS
Whatevers" that are powered? I wondered how they compare...
"Mike Audet" <mike@mikeF-SPAMaudet.com> wrote in message
news:44e763e3$1@linux...
>
> Hi Everyone,
>
> I just thought I'd post because I just got a set of the orginal NS10M
speakers,
> and they are awesome! I've never had a mix translate so well in all my
life.
> I can hear the reverbs better. I can fix probelms in the mids that I
couldn't
> hear before. The detail in incredible.
>
> These little babies are in every studio because they are fantastic. Don't
> believe the hype that they suck. I don't know what's wrong with people
who
> bash these things.
>
> If you don't own a set of these, go buy one before you die! I would
honestly
> take a bullet before giving these things up.
>
> Mike
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