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Miguel Vigil [1]
Messages: 258
Registered: July 2005
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Hey all, I hung out here quite a bit many years back when I was building
my project studio and learning to record/mix using Paris. I unfortunately
burned out pretty badly during the recording/mixing phase - and I don't think
I ever did get back here to say thanks to everybody who did the hand-holding
to help me learn what I was doing.
I don't know why I burned-out like I did, but I think it just came from spending
every free moment after my day job working on mixes
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| Re: Thanks to group - Some of my Paris tunes [message #95144 is a reply to message #95143] |
Sun, 27 January 2008 19:36  |
Miguel Vigil [1]
Messages: 258
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...oops, hit return and didn't mean to. I'll continue here.
Anyhow, I burned out pretty bad from spending almost all my free time mixing
for months on end, and haven't hardly touched my guitar in years, but wanted
to say thanks for the help I got from the board that helped me learn alot
in a short period of time. I actually think some interest in music is starting
to return.
I learned the lesson of "you can't polish a turd" the hard way, because everybody
in the band lived states away and we tried to work out songs and record the
basic tracks in a weekend of about 3-4 days - leaving alot of polishing and
filling in parts for me to do after the start was done.
It is a warning, I guess, to pace yourself when you're working on projects
so you don't snuff out the creativity that makes this kind of stuff fun in
the first place. You can really beat a dead horse to death with equipment
like this that lets you tweak every little thing - and it gets even worse
when it's a bunch of amateurs that might be playing a new song fully through
only once or twice before recording.
Some of the learnings/struggles:
- monitoring the inputs while recording is tough. No control room means
I pretty much set levels and hit record and listen back after the fact.
We monitored through a Furman HDS sustem which was very helpful, but I couldn't
get alot into careful mic placement because of the noise problems of recording
the way I did. (when recording individual track takes I could get careful
- like with acoustic guitar - but the band situation w/ drums in same room
as recorder makes knowing what you have a bit tough).
- Recording 3-4 takes doesn't always make the job easier. Remarkably, if
there was a mistake with an instrument - it often seemed to occur at the
same place in all 3 or 4 takes... So in the end the extra takes might just
give more material to obsess over.
Here's a few of my favorite tunes from the project.
http://www.unsignedbandweb.com/music/play.php?mode=song_hifi &band_id=1424&song_id=2164
http://www.unsignedbandweb.com/music/play.php?mode=song_hifi &band_id=1424&song_id=2297
http://www.unsignedbandweb.com/music/play.php?mode=song_hifi &band_id=5533&song_id=11060
http://www.unsignedbandweb.com/music/play.php?mode=song_hifi &band_id=5533&song_id=11059
http://www.unsignedbandweb.com/music/play.php?mode=song_hifi &band_id=1424&song_id=3218
Here's links to other tunes me and bunch of amateur friends recorded in my
living room, side bedroom, and a small bathroom (for isolation :-) )
http://www.unsignedbandweb.com/music/bands/1424/
http://www.unsignedbandweb.com/music/bands/5533/
Again, thanks to all the folks here who convinced me to go with Paris way
back when and helped me understand some of the techniques of recording,
Shane
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| Re: Thanks to group - Some of my Paris tunes [message #95145 is a reply to message #95144] |
Sun, 27 January 2008 21:39 |
Nei
Messages: 108
Registered: November 2006
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I like the one on that second link... "Rise Above", right?
Cool feel to the whole intro section, and frankly i was a bit
surprised when the vocal came in - i kinda thought it was
gonna continue with that theme into kind of an Eric Johnson-type
instrumental (not of the "Cliffs of Dover" variety, but you
know what i mean - some of his ones with a lighter feel).
Neil
"Shane Milburn" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
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>..oops, hit return and didn't mean to. I'll continue here.
>
>Anyhow, I burned out pretty bad from spending almost all my free time mixing
>for months on end, and haven't hardly touched my guitar in years, but wanted
>to say thanks for the help I got from the board that helped me learn alot
>in a short period of time. I actually think some interest in music is starting
>to return.
>
>I learned the lesson of "you can't polish a turd" the hard way, because
everybody
>in the band lived states away and we tried to work out songs and record
the
>basic tracks in a weekend of about 3-4 days - leaving alot of polishing
and
>filling in parts for me to do after the start was done.
>
>It is a warning, I guess, to pace yourself when you're working on projects
>so you don't snuff out the creativity that makes this kind of stuff fun
in
>the first place. You can really beat a dead horse to death with equipment
>like this that lets you tweak every little thing - and it gets even worse
>when it's a bunch of amateurs that might be playing a new song fully through
>only once or twice before recording.
>
>Some of the learnings/struggles:
>- monitoring the inputs while recording is tough. No control room means
>I pretty much set levels and hit record and listen back after the fact.
>We monitored through a Furman HDS sustem which was very helpful, but I couldn't
>get alot into careful mic placement because of the noise problems of recording
>the way I did. (when recording individual track takes I could get careful
>- like with acoustic guitar - but the band situation w/ drums in same room
>as recorder makes knowing what you have a bit tough).
>- Recording 3-4 takes doesn't always make the job easier. Remarkably, if
>there was a mistake with an instrument - it often seemed to occur at the
>same place in all 3 or 4 takes... So in the end the extra takes might
just
>give more material to obsess over.
>
>Here's a few of my favorite tunes from the project.
> http://www.unsignedbandweb.com/music/play.php?mode=song_hifi &band_id=1424&song_id=2164
>
> http://www.unsignedbandweb.com/music/play.php?mode=song_hifi &band_id=1424&song_id=2297
>
> http://www.unsignedbandweb.com/music/play.php?mode=song_hifi &band_id=5533&song_id=11060
>
> http://www.unsignedbandweb.com/music/play.php?mode=song_hifi &band_id=5533&song_id=11059
>
> http://www.unsignedbandweb.com/music/play.php?mode=song_hifi &band_id=1424&song_id=3218
>
>Here's links to other tunes me and bunch of amateur friends recorded in
my
>living room, side bedroom, and a small bathroom (for isolation :-) )
>http://www.unsignedbandweb.com/music/bands/1424/
>http://www.unsignedbandweb.com/music/bands/5533/
>
>Again, thanks to all the folks here who convinced me to go with Paris way
>back when and helped me understand some of the techniques of recording,
>
>Shane
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| Re: Thanks to group - Some of my Paris tunes [message #95269 is a reply to message #95145] |
Wed, 30 January 2008 20:10 |
Miguel Vigil [1]
Messages: 258
Registered: July 2005
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Thanks Neil, I remember listening to some of your tunes way back when I think.
Wasn't it Progressive stuff - like Rush?
"Neil" <OIUOI@OIU.com> wrote:
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>I like the one on that second link... "Rise Above", right?
>Cool feel to the whole intro section, and frankly i was a bit
>surprised when the vocal came in - i kinda thought it was
>gonna continue with that theme into kind of an Eric Johnson-type
>instrumental (not of the "Cliffs of Dover" variety, but you
>know what i mean - some of his ones with a lighter feel).
>
>Neil
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>"Shane Milburn" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>>..oops, hit return and didn't mean to. I'll continue here.
>>
>>Anyhow, I burned out pretty bad from spending almost all my free time mixing
>>for months on end, and haven't hardly touched my guitar in years, but wanted
>>to say thanks for the help I got from the board that helped me learn alot
>>in a short period of time. I actually think some interest in music is
starting
>>to return.
>>
>>I learned the lesson of "you can't polish a turd" the hard way, because
>everybody
>>in the band lived states away and we tried to work out songs and record
>the
>>basic tracks in a weekend of about 3-4 days - leaving alot of polishing
>and
>>filling in parts for me to do after the start was done.
>>
>>It is a warning, I guess, to pace yourself when you're working on projects
>>so you don't snuff out the creativity that makes this kind of stuff fun
>in
>>the first place. You can really beat a dead horse to death with equipment
>>like this that lets you tweak every little thing - and it gets even worse
>>when it's a bunch of amateurs that might be playing a new song fully through
>>only once or twice before recording.
>>
>>Some of the learnings/struggles:
>>- monitoring the inputs while recording is tough. No control room means
>>I pretty much set levels and hit record and listen back after the fact.
>
>>We monitored through a Furman HDS sustem which was very helpful, but I
couldn't
>>get alot into careful mic placement because of the noise problems of recording
>>the way I did. (when recording individual track takes I could get careful
>>- like with acoustic guitar - but the band situation w/ drums in same room
>>as recorder makes knowing what you have a bit tough).
>>- Recording 3-4 takes doesn't always make the job easier. Remarkably,
if
>>there was a mistake with an instrument - it often seemed to occur at the
>>same place in all 3 or 4 takes... So in the end the extra takes might
>just
>>give more material to obsess over.
>>
>>Here's a few of my favorite tunes from the project.
>> http://www.unsignedbandweb.com/music/play.php?mode=song_hifi &band_id=1424&song_id=2164
>>
>> http://www.unsignedbandweb.com/music/play.php?mode=song_hifi &band_id=1424&song_id=2297
>>
>> http://www.unsignedbandweb.com/music/play.php?mode=song_hifi &band_id=5533&song_id=11060
>>
>> http://www.unsignedbandweb.com/music/play.php?mode=song_hifi &band_id=5533&song_id=11059
>>
>> http://www.unsignedbandweb.com/music/play.php?mode=song_hifi &band_id=1424&song_id=3218
>>
>>Here's links to other tunes me and bunch of amateur friends recorded in
>my
>>living room, side bedroom, and a small bathroom (for isolation :-) )
>>http://www.unsignedbandweb.com/music/bands/1424/
>>http://www.unsignedbandweb.com/music/bands/5533/
>>
>>Again, thanks to all the folks here who convinced me to go with Paris
way
>>back when and helped me understand some of the techniques of recording,
>>
>>Shane
>
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| Re: Thanks to group - Some of my Paris tunes [message #95287 is a reply to message #95269] |
Thu, 31 January 2008 13:25 |
Neil
Messages: 1645
Registered: April 2006
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Yeah, i guess it's kinda like Rush.
Except without the revenue stream & the platinum albums LOL!
Neil
"Shane Milburn" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
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>Thanks Neil, I remember listening to some of your tunes way back when I
think.
> Wasn't it Progressive stuff - like Rush?
>
>"Neil" <OIUOI@OIU.com> wrote:
>>
>>I like the one on that second link... "Rise Above", right?
>>Cool feel to the whole intro section, and frankly i was a bit
>>surprised when the vocal came in - i kinda thought it was
>>gonna continue with that theme into kind of an Eric Johnson-type
>>instrumental (not of the "Cliffs of Dover" variety, but you
>>know what i mean - some of his ones with a lighter feel).
>>
>>Neil
>>
>>
>>
>>"Shane Milburn" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>..oops, hit return and didn't mean to. I'll continue here.
>>>
>>>Anyhow, I burned out pretty bad from spending almost all my free time
mixing
>>>for months on end, and haven't hardly touched my guitar in years, but
wanted
>>>to say thanks for the help I got from the board that helped me learn alot
>>>in a short period of time. I actually think some interest in music is
>starting
>>>to return.
>>>
>>>I learned the lesson of "you can't polish a turd" the hard way, because
>>everybody
>>>in the band lived states away and we tried to work out songs and record
>>the
>>>basic tracks in a weekend of about 3-4 days - leaving alot of polishing
>>and
>>>filling in parts for me to do after the start was done.
>>>
>>>It is a warning, I guess, to pace yourself when you're working on projects
>>>so you don't snuff out the creativity that makes this kind of stuff fun
>>in
>>>the first place. You can really beat a dead horse to death with equipment
>>>like this that lets you tweak every little thing - and it gets even worse
>>>when it's a bunch of amateurs that might be playing a new song fully through
>>>only once or twice before recording.
>>>
>>>Some of the learnings/struggles:
>>>- monitoring the inputs while recording is tough. No control room means
>>>I pretty much set levels and hit record and listen back after the fact.
>>
>>>We monitored through a Furman HDS sustem which was very helpful, but I
>couldn't
>>>get alot into careful mic placement because of the noise problems of recording
>>>the way I did. (when recording individual track takes I could get careful
>>>- like with acoustic guitar - but the band situation w/ drums in same
room
>>>as recorder makes knowing what you have a bit tough).
>>>- Recording 3-4 takes doesn't always make the job easier. Remarkably,
>if
>>>there was a mistake with an instrument - it often seemed to occur at the
>>>same place in all 3 or 4 takes... So in the end the extra takes might
>>just
>>>give more material to obsess over.
>>>
>>>Here's a few of my favorite tunes from the project.
>>> http://www.unsignedbandweb.com/music/play.php?mode=song_hifi &band_id=1424&song_id=2164
>>>
>>> http://www.unsignedbandweb.com/music/play.php?mode=song_hifi &band_id=1424&song_id=2297
>>>
>>> http://www.unsignedbandweb.com/music/play.php?mode=song_hifi &band_id=5533&song_id=11060
>>>
>>> http://www.unsignedbandweb.com/music/play.php?mode=song_hifi &band_id=5533&song_id=11059
>>>
>>> http://www.unsignedbandweb.com/music/play.php?mode=song_hifi &band_id=1424&song_id=3218
>>>
>>>Here's links to other tunes me and bunch of amateur friends recorded in
>>my
>>>living room, side bedroom, and a small bathroom (for isolation :-) )
>>>http://www.unsignedbandweb.com/music/bands/1424/
>>>http://www.unsignedbandweb.com/music/bands/5533/
>>>
>>>Again, thanks to all the folks here who convinced me to go with Paris
>way
>>>back when and helped me understand some of the techniques of recording,
>>>
>>>Shane
>>
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| Re: Thanks to group - Some of my Paris tunes [message #95303 is a reply to message #95287] |
Fri, 01 February 2008 07:01 |
chuck duffy
Messages: 453
Registered: July 2005
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And god bless the child who looks like geddy lee :-)
Chuck
"Neil" <IOUIOU@OIU.com> wrote:
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>Yeah, i guess it's kinda like Rush.
>
>Except without the revenue stream & the platinum albums LOL!
>
>Neil
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>"Shane Milburn" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>>Thanks Neil, I remember listening to some of your tunes way back when
I
>think.
>> Wasn't it Progressive stuff - like Rush?
>>
>>"Neil" <OIUOI@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>I like the one on that second link... "Rise Above", right?
>>>Cool feel to the whole intro section, and frankly i was a bit
>>>surprised when the vocal came in - i kinda thought it was
>>>gonna continue with that theme into kind of an Eric Johnson-type
>>>instrumental (not of the "Cliffs of Dover" variety, but you
>>>know what i mean - some of his ones with a lighter feel).
>>>
>>>Neil
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Shane Milburn" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>..oops, hit return and didn't mean to. I'll continue here.
>>>>
>>>>Anyhow, I burned out pretty bad from spending almost all my free time
>mixing
>>>>for months on end, and haven't hardly touched my guitar in years, but
>wanted
>>>>to say thanks for the help I got from the board that helped me learn
alot
>>>>in a short period of time. I actually think some interest in music is
>>starting
>>>>to return.
>>>>
>>>>I learned the lesson of "you can't polish a turd" the hard way, because
>>>everybody
>>>>in the band lived states away and we tried to work out songs and record
>>>the
>>>>basic tracks in a weekend of about 3-4 days - leaving alot of polishing
>>>and
>>>>filling in parts for me to do after the start was done.
>>>>
>>>>It is a warning, I guess, to pace yourself when you're working on projects
>>>>so you don't snuff out the creativity that makes this kind of stuff fun
>>>in
>>>>the first place. You can really beat a dead horse to death with equipment
>>>>like this that lets you tweak every little thing - and it gets even worse
>>>>when it's a bunch of amateurs that might be playing a new song fully
through
>>>>only once or twice before recording.
>>>>
>>>>Some of the learnings/struggles:
>>>>- monitoring the inputs while recording is tough. No control room means
>>>>I pretty much set levels and hit record and listen back after the fact.
>>>
>>>>We monitored through a Furman HDS sustem which was very helpful, but
I
>>couldn't
>>>>get alot into careful mic placement because of the noise problems of
recording
>>>>the way I did. (when recording individual track takes I could get careful
>>>>- like with acoustic guitar - but the band situation w/ drums in same
>room
>>>>as recorder makes knowing what you have a bit tough).
>>>>- Recording 3-4 takes doesn't always make the job easier. Remarkably,
>>if
>>>>there was a mistake with an instrument - it often seemed to occur at
the
>>>>same place in all 3 or 4 takes... So in the end the extra takes might
>>>just
>>>>give more material to obsess over.
>>>>
>>>>Here's a few of my favorite tunes from the project.
>>>> http://www.unsignedbandweb.com/music/play.php?mode=song_hifi &band_id=1424&song_id=2164
>>>>
>>>> http://www.unsignedbandweb.com/music/play.php?mode=song_hifi &band_id=1424&song_id=2297
>>>>
>>>> http://www.unsignedbandweb.com/music/play.php?mode=song_hifi &band_id=5533&song_id=11060
>>>>
>>>> http://www.unsignedbandweb.com/music/play.php?mode=song_hifi &band_id=5533&song_id=11059
>>>>
>>>> http://www.unsignedbandweb.com/music/play.php?mode=song_hifi &band_id=1424&song_id=3218
>>>>
>>>>Here's links to other tunes me and bunch of amateur friends recorded
in
>>>my
>>>>living room, side bedroom, and a small bathroom (for isolation :-) )
>>>>http://www.unsignedbandweb.com/music/bands/1424/
>>>>http://www.unsignedbandweb.com/music/bands/5533/
>>>>
>>>>Again, thanks to all the folks here who convinced me to go with Paris
>>way
>>>>back when and helped me understand some of the techniques of recording,
>>>>
>>>>Shane
>>>
>>
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