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- A GNU\Linux first [message #95265] Wed, 30 January 2008 13:32 Go to next message
TCB is currently offline  TCB
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OK, Ubuntu 7.1 on a Dell 1720. Had to change drive from AHCI mode to ATA (same
for XP/Vista or load drivers at startup) and it didn't catch my on board
audio card. Everything else worked off the hop.

I'm still a Debian guy, so I'm ripping it off and putting Debian 64 bit on
it anyway, but this is the first distro I've ever put on that was _easier_
than an XP install. Most impressive.

TCB
- Re: A GNU\Linux first [message #95266 is a reply to message #95265] Wed, 30 January 2008 12:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jamie K is currently offline  Jamie K   UNITED STATES
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Excellent! Thanks for the report, Thad.

Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com


TCB wrote:
> OK, Ubuntu 7.1 on a Dell 1720. Had to change drive from AHCI mode to ATA (same
> for XP/Vista or load drivers at startup) and it didn't catch my on board
> audio card. Everything else worked off the hop.
>
> I'm still a Debian guy, so I'm ripping it off and putting Debian 64 bit on
> it anyway, but this is the first distro I've ever put on that was _easier_
> than an XP install. Most impressive.
>
> TCB
- Re: A GNU\Linux first [message #95268 is a reply to message #95266] Wed, 30 January 2008 19:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
TCB is currently offline  TCB
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I actually wound up putting 32 bit Debian on it (there's a problem with laptops
and GRUB in the 64 bit distro and I don't want to learn a new bootloader.


Still, the free stuff is getting pretty slick these days. Not good for content
creators, esp on the audio side (video and 3D design are _way_ ahead on free
software platforms), but for just a general surf and mail OS I'll take Debian
or Ubuntu over OS X or Vista or XP any day.

TCB

Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>
>Excellent! Thanks for the report, Thad.
>
>Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
>TCB wrote:
>> OK, Ubuntu 7.1 on a Dell 1720. Had to change drive from AHCI mode to ATA
(same
>> for XP/Vista or load drivers at startup) and it didn't catch my on board
>> audio card. Everything else worked off the hop.
>>
>> I'm still a Debian guy, so I'm ripping it off and putting Debian 64 bit
on
>> it anyway, but this is the first distro I've ever put on that was _easier_
>> than an XP install. Most impressive.
>>
>> TCB
- Re: A GNU\Linux first [message #95271 is a reply to message #95268] Thu, 31 January 2008 02:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kim is currently offline  Kim
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I'm surfing on Ubuntu 7.1 right now.

Annoyed me at v 7.0 that only one screen worked, which was a weird one given
how much other cool stuff it DID have. That's fixed in 7.1

I think there will be Linux on a machine at my place for quite a while starting
about now. Not sure Vista is going to get a look in on my watch.

Cheers,
Kim.

"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>
>I actually wound up putting 32 bit Debian on it (there's a problem with
laptops
>and GRUB in the 64 bit distro and I don't want to learn a new bootloader.
>
>
>Still, the free stuff is getting pretty slick these days. Not good for content
>creators, esp on the audio side (video and 3D design are _way_ ahead on
free
>software platforms), but for just a general surf and mail OS I'll take Debian
>or Ubuntu over OS X or Vista or XP any day.
>
>TCB
>
>Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>
>>Excellent! Thanks for the report, Thad.
>>
>>Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>>TCB wrote:
>>> OK, Ubuntu 7.1 on a Dell 1720. Had to change drive from AHCI mode to
ATA
>(same
>>> for XP/Vista or load drivers at startup) and it didn't catch my on board
>>> audio card. Everything else worked off the hop.
>>>
>>> I'm still a Debian guy, so I'm ripping it off and putting Debian 64 bit
>on
>>> it anyway, but this is the first distro I've ever put on that was _easier_
>>> than an XP install. Most impressive.
>>>
>>> TCB
>
- Re: A GNU\Linux first [message #95277 is a reply to message #95265] Thu, 31 January 2008 08:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
chuck duffy is currently offline  chuck duffy
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"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>
>OK, Ubuntu 7.1 on a Dell 1720. Had to change drive from AHCI mode to ATA
(same
>for XP/Vista or load drivers at startup) and it didn't catch my on board
>audio card. Everything else worked off the hop.
>
>I'm still a Debian guy, so I'm ripping it off and putting Debian 64 bit
on
>it anyway, but this is the first distro I've ever put on that was _easier_
>than an XP install. Most impressive.
>
>TCB

gOS (Ubuntu based) installed on my system flawlessly including network/sound
etc.- I didn't touch a thing. Very clean desktop with all required web/office
tools installed.

Chuck
- Re: A GNU\Linux first [message #95279 is a reply to message #95271] Thu, 31 January 2008 08:51 Go to previous message
TCB is currently offline  TCB
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GNU\Linux distros have to make some choices about how they deal with proprietary
drivers. Some of the more strict ones (most notably, Debian itself) simply
makes you figure it out yourself. Some (SuSE, Mandrivia) kind of nod and
wink and give helpful suggestions or offer to install drivers for you. Ubuntu
actually has the drivers packaged and ready to go, just tick a box in the
right control panel and you're off using the nVidia or ATI binaries.

In an ideal world the video card companies would publish specs and not enforce
NDAs on free software developers, that's what Intel and most of the mobo
manufacturers do, as well as pretty much all of the hardware vendors in the
enterprise space. For now, Ubuntu is the best option if you don't want to
learn how to manage stuff like this on your own.

It's a big step, imho.

TCB

"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>I'm surfing on Ubuntu 7.1 right now.
>
>Annoyed me at v 7.0 that only one screen worked, which was a weird one given
>how much other cool stuff it DID have. That's fixed in 7.1
>
>I think there will be Linux on a machine at my place for quite a while starting
>about now. Not sure Vista is going to get a look in on my watch.
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.
>
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>
>>I actually wound up putting 32 bit Debian on it (there's a problem with
>laptops
>>and GRUB in the 64 bit distro and I don't want to learn a new bootloader.
>>
>>
>>Still, the free stuff is getting pretty slick these days. Not good for
content
>>creators, esp on the audio side (video and 3D design are _way_ ahead on
>free
>>software platforms), but for just a general surf and mail OS I'll take
Debian
>>or Ubuntu over OS X or Vista or XP any day.
>>
>>TCB
>>
>>Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Excellent! Thanks for the report, Thad.
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>> -Jamie
>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>
>>>
>>>TCB wrote:
>>>> OK, Ubuntu 7.1 on a Dell 1720. Had to change drive from AHCI mode to
>ATA
>>(same
>>>> for XP/Vista or load drivers at startup) and it didn't catch my on board
>>>> audio card. Everything else worked off the hop.
>>>>
>>>> I'm still a Debian guy, so I'm ripping it off and putting Debian 64
bit
>>on
>>>> it anyway, but this is the first distro I've ever put on that was _easier_
>>>> than an XP install. Most impressive.
>>>>
>>>> TCB
>>
>
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