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installing 8-in & 8-out cards [message #99115] Sat, 07 June 2008 13:15 Go to next message
David Feldman is currently offline  David Feldman
Messages: 13
Registered: October 2008
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Hi there,
I'm hoping that someone can point me in the right direction for troubleshooting
an installation problem. I've recently put a new 8-in an 8-out card into
my MEC, and when I run Paris, they don't show up on the patch bay and I can't
seem to use them. I'm wondering if there are steps that I am missing here.
I've looked in the manual and can't find any notes on installing these things
into an existing MEC. So I'm a little bit lost. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
David
Re: installing 8-in & 8-out cards [message #99118 is a reply to message #99115] Sat, 07 June 2008 21:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
JeffH is currently offline  JeffH   UNITED STATES
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David,

What version of Paris and what OS? How many EDS cards? If more than
one, what is connected to each?

Just need more info to help with troubleshooting.

Jeff

David Feldman wrote:
> Hi there,
> I'm hoping that someone can point me in the right direction for troubleshooting
> an installation problem. I've recently put a new 8-in an 8-out card into
> my MEC, and when I run Paris, they don't show up on the patch bay and I can't
> seem to use them. I'm wondering if there are steps that I am missing here.
> I've looked in the manual and can't find any notes on installing these things
> into an existing MEC. So I'm a little bit lost. Any help would be appreciated.
> Thanks,
> Davi
Re: installing 8-in & 8-out cards [message #99120 is a reply to message #99118] Sat, 07 June 2008 22:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tom Bruhl is currently offline  Tom Bruhl   UNITED STATES
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David,
In theory they should just show up in the modules section in
the patchbay. Does the Mec master module show up that these
new 8 in/outs are installed in?

More info will help.
Tom



"Jeff Hoover" <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote in message =
news:484b6746@linux...
David,

What version of Paris and what OS? How many EDS cards? If more than=20
one, what is connected to each?

Just need more info to help with troubleshooting.

Jeff

David Feldman wrote:
> Hi there,
> I'm hoping that someone can point me in the right direction for =
troubleshooting
> an installation problem. I've recently put a new 8-in an 8-out card =
into
> my MEC, and when I run Paris, they don't show up on the patch bay =
and I can't
> seem to use them. I'm wondering if there are steps that I am =
missing here.
> I've looked in the manual and can't find any notes on installing =
these things
> into an existing MEC. So I'm a little bit lost. Any help would be =
appreciated.
> Thanks,
> Davi


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>David,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>In theory they should just show up in =
the modules=20
section in</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the patchbay.&nbsp; Does the Mec master =
module show=20
up that these</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>new 8 in/outs are installed =
in?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>More info will help.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
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href=3D"mailto:jkhoover@excite.com">jkhoover@excite.com</A>&gt; wrote =
in message=20
<A=20
=
href=3D"news:484b6746@linux">news:484b6746@linux</A>...</DIV>David,<BR><B=
R>What=20
version of Paris and what OS?&nbsp; How many EDS cards?&nbsp; If more =
than=20
<BR>one, what is connected to each?<BR><BR>Just need more info to help =
with=20
troubleshooting.<BR><BR>Jeff<BR><BR>David Feldman wrote:<BR>&gt; Hi=20
there,<BR>&gt; I'm hoping that someone can point me in the right =
direction for=20
troubleshooting<BR>&gt; an installation problem.&nbsp; I've recently =
put a new=20
8-in an 8-out card into<BR>&gt; my MEC, and when I run Paris, they =
don't show=20
up on the patch bay and I can't<BR>&gt; seem to use them.&nbsp; I'm =
wondering=20
if there are steps that I am missing here.<BR>&gt;&nbsp; I've looked =
in the=20
manual and can't find any notes on installing these things<BR>&gt; =
into an=20
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Re: installing 8-in & 8-out cards [message #99123 is a reply to message #99115] Sun, 08 June 2008 02:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
rick is currently offline  rick   UNITED STATES
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how many cards are installed totally? also sometimes when you think
they're seated properly they're not.

On 8 Jun 2008 06:15:12 +1000, "David Feldman" <dfeldmania@gmail.com>
wrote:

>
>Hi there,
>I'm hoping that someone can point me in the right direction for troubleshooting
>an installation problem. I've recently put a new 8-in an 8-out card into
>my MEC, and when I run Paris, they don't show up on the patch bay and I can't
>seem to use them. I'm wondering if there are steps that I am missing here.
> I've looked in the manual and can't find any notes on installing these things
>into an existing MEC. So I'm a little bit lost. Any help would be appreciated.
>Thanks,
>David
Re: installing 8-in & 8-out cards [message #99127 is a reply to message #99120] Sun, 08 June 2008 18:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
David Feldman is currently offline  David Feldman
Messages: 13
Registered: October 2008
Junior Member
Hi guys,
Thanks for trying to help. Here is some more information that I should have
included earlier. I am running Paris 3.0 on Windows ME with three EDS cards
installed. My MEC is connected to the first EDS card and that's it. When
I run Paris, only 16 ins and outs show up in the modules section of the patch
bay. What do you think?
-David

"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>David,
>In theory they should just show up in the modules section in
>the patchbay. Does the Mec master module show up that these
>new 8 in/outs are installed in?
>
>More info will help.
>Tom
>
>
>
> "Jeff Hoover" <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote in message =
>news:484b6746@linux...
> David,
>
> What version of Paris and what OS? How many EDS cards? If more than=20
> one, what is connected to each?
>
> Just need more info to help with troubleshooting.
>
> Jeff
>
> David Feldman wrote:
> > Hi there,
> > I'm hoping that someone can point me in the right direction for =
>troubleshooting
> > an installation problem. I've recently put a new 8-in an 8-out card
=
>into
> > my MEC, and when I run Paris, they don't show up on the patch bay =
>and I can't
> > seem to use them. I'm wondering if there are steps that I am =
>missing here.
> > I've looked in the manual and can't find any notes on installing =
>these things
> > into an existing MEC. So I'm a little bit lost. Any help would be
=
>appreciated.
> > Thanks,
> > Davi
>
>
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><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>David,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>In theory they should just show up in =
>the modules=20
>section in</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the patchbay. Does the Mec master =
>module show=20
>up that these</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>new 8 in/outs are installed =
>in?</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>More info will help.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
><DIV> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><BLOCKQUOTE=20
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> <DIV>"Jeff Hoover" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:jkhoover@excite.com">jkhoover@excite.com</A>> wrote =
>in message=20
> <A=20
> =
>href=3D"news:484b6746@linux">news:484b6746@linux</A>...</DIV>David,<BR><B=
>R>What=20
> version of Paris and what OS? How many EDS cards? If more =
>than=20
> <BR>one, what is connected to each?<BR><BR>Just need more info to help
=
>with=20
> troubleshooting.<BR><BR>Jeff<BR><BR>David Feldman wrote:<BR>> Hi=20
> there,<BR>> I'm hoping that someone can point me in the right =
>direction for=20
> troubleshooting<BR>> an installation problem. I've recently =
>put a new=20
> 8-in an 8-out card into<BR>> my MEC, and when I run Paris, they =
>don't show=20
> up on the patch bay and I can't<BR>> seem to use them. I'm =
>wondering=20
> if there are steps that I am missing here.<BR>> I've looked =
>in the=20
> manual and can't find any notes on installing these things<BR>> =
>into an=20
> existing MEC. So I'm a little bit lost. Any help would be=20
> appreciated.<BR>> Thanks,<BR>> Davi</BLOCKQUOTE>
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Re: installing 8-in & 8-out cards [message #99130 is a reply to message #99127] Sun, 08 June 2008 18:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1988
Registered: May 2008
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OOohhhh.. ok. This is a limit. You have to select which modules from the
itemized lists in the patch bay on the right hand side. Adat, no matter
where in the MEC, will be the first default as I recall. I think this has to
do with how Paris does it's hardware inventory. Make sure to scroll on that
list, if they aren't there then you have a problem. If they are, that is
normal Paris behaviour.

AA


"David Feldman" <dfeldmania@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:484c80cb$1@linux...
>
> Hi guys,
> Thanks for trying to help. Here is some more information that I should
> have
> included earlier. I am running Paris 3.0 on Windows ME with three EDS
> cards
> installed. My MEC is connected to the first EDS card and that's it. When
> I run Paris, only 16 ins and outs show up in the modules section of the
> patch
> bay. What do you think?
> -David
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>David,
>>In theory they should just show up in the modules section in
>>the patchbay. Does the Mec master module show up that these
>>new 8 in/outs are installed in?
>>
>>More info will help.
>>Tom
>>
>>
>>
>> "Jeff Hoover" <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote in message =
>>news:484b6746@linux...
>> David,
>>
>> What version of Paris and what OS? How many EDS cards? If more than=20
>> one, what is connected to each?
>>
>> Just need more info to help with troubleshooting.
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>> David Feldman wrote:
>> > Hi there,
>> > I'm hoping that someone can point me in the right direction for =
>>troubleshooting
>> > an installation problem. I've recently put a new 8-in an 8-out card
> =
>>into
>> > my MEC, and when I run Paris, they don't show up on the patch bay =
>>and I can't
>> > seem to use them. I'm wondering if there are steps that I am =
>>missing here.
>> > I've looked in the manual and can't find any notes on installing =
>>these things
>> > into an existing MEC. So I'm a little bit lost. Any help would be
> =
>>appreciated.
>> > Thanks,
>> > Davi
>>
>>
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>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>David,</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>In theory they should just show up in =
>>the modules=20
>>section in</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the patchbay. Does the Mec master =
>>module show=20
>>up that these</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>new 8 in/outs are installed =
>>in?</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>More info will help.</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><BLOCKQUOTE=20
>>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>> <DIV>"Jeff Hoover" <<A=20
>> href=3D"mailto:jkhoover@excite.com">jkhoover@excite.com</A>> wrote =
>>in message=20
>> <A=20
>> =
>>href=3D"news:484b6746@linux">news:484b6746@linux</A>...</DIV>David,<BR><B=
>>R>What=20
>> version of Paris and what OS? How many EDS cards? If more =
>>than=20
>> <BR>one, what is connected to each?<BR><BR>Just need more info to help
> =
>>with=20
>> troubleshooting.<BR><BR>Jeff<BR><BR>David Feldman wrote:<BR>> Hi=20
>> there,<BR>> I'm hoping that someone can point me in the right =
>>direction for=20
>> troubleshooting<BR>> an installation problem. I've recently =
>>put a new=20
>> 8-in an 8-out card into<BR>> my MEC, and when I run Paris, they =
>>don't show=20
>> up on the patch bay and I can't<BR>> seem to use them. I'm =
>>wondering=20
>> if there are steps that I am missing here.<BR>> I've looked =
>>in the=20
>> manual and can't find any notes on installing these things<BR>> =
>>into an=20
>> existing MEC. So I'm a little bit lost. Any help would be=20
>> appreciated.<BR>> Thanks,<BR>> Davi</BLOCKQUOTE>
>><DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, =
>>and=20
>>you?<BR><A=20
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Re: installing 8-in & 8-out cards [message #99133 is a reply to message #99130] Sun, 08 June 2008 18:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1988
Registered: May 2008
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To clarify, you can only have 2 input and 2 output modules per MEC, giving
you 16 ins and 16 outs for each Paris submixer.

AA


"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
news:484c87c8$1@linux...
> OOohhhh.. ok. This is a limit. You have to select which modules from the
> itemized lists in the patch bay on the right hand side. Adat, no matter
> where in the MEC, will be the first default as I recall. I think this has
> to do with how Paris does it's hardware inventory. Make sure to scroll on
> that list, if they aren't there then you have a problem. If they are, that
> is normal Paris behaviour.
>
> AA
>
>
> "David Feldman" <dfeldmania@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:484c80cb$1@linux...
>>
>> Hi guys,
>> Thanks for trying to help. Here is some more information that I should
>> have
>> included earlier. I am running Paris 3.0 on Windows ME with three EDS
>> cards
>> installed. My MEC is connected to the first EDS card and that's it.
>> When
>> I run Paris, only 16 ins and outs show up in the modules section of the
>> patch
>> bay. What do you think?
>> -David
>>
>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>David,
>>>In theory they should just show up in the modules section in
>>>the patchbay. Does the Mec master module show up that these
>>>new 8 in/outs are installed in?
>>>
>>>More info will help.
>>>Tom
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Jeff Hoover" <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote in message =
>>>news:484b6746@linux...
>>> David,
>>>
>>> What version of Paris and what OS? How many EDS cards? If more
>>> than=20
>>> one, what is connected to each?
>>>
>>> Just need more info to help with troubleshooting.
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>>
>>> David Feldman wrote:
>>> > Hi there,
>>> > I'm hoping that someone can point me in the right direction for =
>>>troubleshooting
>>> > an installation problem. I've recently put a new 8-in an 8-out card
>> =
>>>into
>>> > my MEC, and when I run Paris, they don't show up on the patch bay =
>>>and I can't
>>> > seem to use them. I'm wondering if there are steps that I am =
>>>missing here.
>>> > I've looked in the manual and can't find any notes on installing =
>>>these things
>>> > into an existing MEC. So I'm a little bit lost. Any help would be
>> =
>>>appreciated.
>>> > Thanks,
>>> > Davi
>>>
>>>
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>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>David,</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>In theory they should just show up in =
>>>the modules=20
>>>section in</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the patchbay. Does the Mec master =
>>>module show=20
>>>up that these</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>new 8 in/outs are installed =
>>>in?</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>More info will help.</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV> </DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>><BLOCKQUOTE=20
>>>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>>> <DIV>"Jeff Hoover" <<A=20
>>> href=3D"mailto:jkhoover@excite.com">jkhoover@excite.com</A>> wrote =
>>>in message=20
>>> <A=20
>>> =
>>>href=3D"news:484b6746@linux">news:484b6746@linux</A>...</DIV>David,<BR><B=
>>>R>What=20
>>> version of Paris and what OS? How many EDS cards? If more =
>>>than=20
>>> <BR>one, what is connected to each?<BR><BR>Just need more info to help
>> =
>>>with=20
>>> troubleshooting.<BR><BR>Jeff<BR><BR>David Feldman wrote:<BR>> Hi=20
>>> there,<BR>> I'm hoping that someone can point me in the right =
>>>direction for=20
>>> troubleshooting<BR>> an installation problem. I've recently =
>>>put a new=20
>>> 8-in an 8-out card into<BR>> my MEC, and when I run Paris, they =
>>>don't show=20
>>> up on the patch bay and I can't<BR>> seem to use them. I'm =
>>>wondering=20
>>> if there are steps that I am missing here.<BR>> I've looked =
>>>in the=20
>>> manual and can't find any notes on installing these things<BR>> =
>>>into an=20
>>> existing MEC. So I'm a little bit lost. Any help would be=20
>>> appreciated.<BR>> Thanks,<BR>> Davi</BLOCKQUOTE>
>>><DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, =
>>>and=20
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>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
Re: installing 8-in & 8-out cards [message #99175 is a reply to message #99133] Tue, 10 June 2008 21:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
David Feldman is currently offline  David Feldman
Messages: 13
Registered: October 2008
Junior Member
I'm not sure I understand.

In the itemized list in the patch bay on the right hand side, I only see
"Modules A" which only shows 16 ins and 16 outs.

Do you mean to say that each MEC can only run up to two input and output
modules? If that's the case, then why in the world does the MEC have 9 expansion
slots? Am I going to have to run a whole extra 4-rack-unit MEC just to use
my extra modules? Or is there a more efficient workaround that I don't know
about here? Or am I misunderstanding this completely?

Somebody help explain this to me.
-David


"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>To clarify, you can only have 2 input and 2 output modules per MEC, giving

>you 16 ins and 16 outs for each Paris submixer.
>
>AA
>
>
>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>news:484c87c8$1@linux...
>> OOohhhh.. ok. This is a limit. You have to select which modules from the

>> itemized lists in the patch bay on the right hand side. Adat, no matter

>> where in the MEC, will be the first default as I recall. I think this
has
>> to do with how Paris does it's hardware inventory. Make sure to scroll
on
>> that list, if they aren't there then you have a problem. If they are,
that
>> is normal Paris behaviour.
>>
>> AA
>>
>>
>> "David Feldman" <dfeldmania@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:484c80cb$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Hi guys,
>>> Thanks for trying to help. Here is some more information that I should

>>> have
>>> included earlier. I am running Paris 3.0 on Windows ME with three EDS

>>> cards
>>> installed. My MEC is connected to the first EDS card and that's it.

>>> When
>>> I run Paris, only 16 ins and outs show up in the modules section of the

>>> patch
>>> bay. What do you think?
>>> -David
>>>
>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>David,
>>>>In theory they should just show up in the modules section in
>>>>the patchbay. Does the Mec master module show up that these
>>>>new 8 in/outs are installed in?
>>>>
>>>>More info will help.
>>>>Tom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Jeff Hoover" <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote in message =
>>>>news:484b6746@linux...
>>>> David,
>>>>
>>>> What version of Paris and what OS? How many EDS cards? If more
>>>> than=20
>>>> one, what is connected to each?
>>>>
>>>> Just need more info to help with troubleshooting.
>>>>
>>>> Jeff
>>>>
>>>> David Feldman wrote:
>>>> > Hi there,
>>>> > I'm hoping that someone can point me in the right direction for =
>>>>troubleshooting
>>>> > an installation problem. I've recently put a new 8-in an 8-out card
>>> =
>>>>into
>>>> > my MEC, and when I run Paris, they don't show up on the patch bay
=
>>>>and I can't
>>>> > seem to use them. I'm wondering if there are steps that I am =
>>>>missing here.
>>>> > I've looked in the manual and can't find any notes on installing
=
>>>>these things
>>>> > into an existing MEC. So I'm a little bit lost. Any help would
be
>>> =
>>>>appreciated.
>>>> > Thanks,
>>>> > Davi
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>>>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>>>>
>>>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>>><HTML><HEAD>
>>>><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>>>>charset=3Diso-8859-1">
>>>><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2900.2180" name=3DGENERATOR>
>>>><STYLE></STYLE>
>>>></HEAD>
>>>><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>David,</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>In theory they should just show up in
=
>>>>the modules=20
>>>>section in</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the patchbay. Does the Mec master =
>>>>module show=20
>>>>up that these</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>new 8 in/outs are installed =
>>>>in?</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>More info will help.</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV> </DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>><BLOCKQUOTE=20
>>>>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>>>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>>>> <DIV>"Jeff Hoover" <<A=20
>>>> href=3D"mailto:jkhoover@excite.com">jkhoover@excite.com</A>> wrote
=
>>>>in message=20
>>>> <A=20
>>>> =
>>>>href=3D"news:484b6746@linux">news:484b6746@linux</A>...</DIV>David,<BR><B=
>>>>R>What=20
>>>> version of Paris and what OS? How many EDS cards? If more =
>>>>than=20
>>>> <BR>one, what is connected to each?<BR><BR>Just need more info to help
>>> =
>>>>with=20
>>>> troubleshooting.<BR><BR>Jeff<BR><BR>David Feldman wrote:<BR>> Hi=20
>>>> there,<BR>> I'm hoping that someone can point me in the right =
>>>>direction for=20
>>>> troubleshooting<BR>> an installation problem. I've recently =
>>>>put a new=20
>>>> 8-in an 8-out card into<BR>> my MEC, and when I run Paris, they =
>>>>don't show=20
>>>> up on the patch bay and I can't<BR>> seem to use them. I'm =
>>>>wondering=20
>>>> if there are steps that I am missing here.<BR>> I've looked =
>>>>in the=20
>>>> manual and can't find any notes on installing these things<BR>> =
>>>>into an=20
>>>> existing MEC. So I'm a little bit lost. Any help would be=20
>>>> appreciated.<BR>> Thanks,<BR>> Davi</BLOCKQUOTE>
>>>><DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam,
=
>>>>and=20
>>>>you?<BR><A=20
>>>>href=3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
>>>>.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Re: installing 8-in & 8-out cards [message #99177 is a reply to message #99175] Tue, 10 June 2008 21:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1988
Registered: May 2008
Senior Member
> Do you mean to say that each MEC can only run up to two input and output
> modules? If that's the case, then why in the world does the MEC have 9
> expansion
> slots?


Drag'n'drop as you need. Yes, only 2 MEC in modules and 2 MEC out add on
modules at a a time. think about it though, you have only 16 channels per
submix, right?

You can use additional inputs (8 to be exact) to feed auxes/External loops
on channels though you cannot of course record those. That gives you the
total of 24 streams of I/O PER CARD. No more. If you need more you need
another MEC and another EDS card to host that MEC.


AA


"David Feldman" <dfeldmania@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:484f50b3$1@linux...
>
> I'm not sure I understand.
>
> In the itemized list in the patch bay on the right hand side, I only see
> "Modules A" which only shows 16 ins and 16 outs.
>
> Do you mean to say that each MEC can only run up to two input and output
> modules? If that's the case, then why in the world does the MEC have 9
> expansion
> slots? Am I going to have to run a whole extra 4-rack-unit MEC just to
> use
> my extra modules?

At the same time? Yes.

Or is there a more efficient workaround that I don't know
> about here? Or am I misunderstanding this completely?

Best workaround is to store patches as presets
in the patchbay.

AA



>
> Somebody help explain this to me.
> -David
>
>
> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>To clarify, you can only have 2 input and 2 output modules per MEC, giving
>
>>you 16 ins and 16 outs for each Paris submixer.
>>
>>AA
>>
>>
>>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>news:484c87c8$1@linux...
>>> OOohhhh.. ok. This is a limit. You have to select which modules from the
>
>>> itemized lists in the patch bay on the right hand side. Adat, no matter
>
>>> where in the MEC, will be the first default as I recall. I think this
> has
>>> to do with how Paris does it's hardware inventory. Make sure to scroll
> on
>>> that list, if they aren't there then you have a problem. If they are,
> that
>>> is normal Paris behaviour.
>>>
>>> AA
>>>
>>>
>>> "David Feldman" <dfeldmania@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:484c80cb$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Hi guys,
>>>> Thanks for trying to help. Here is some more information that I should
>
>>>> have
>>>> included earlier. I am running Paris 3.0 on Windows ME with three EDS
>
>>>> cards
>>>> installed. My MEC is connected to the first EDS card and that's it.
>
>>>> When
>>>> I run Paris, only 16 ins and outs show up in the modules section of the
>
>>>> patch
>>>> bay. What do you think?
>>>> -David
>>>>
>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>David,
>>>>>In theory they should just show up in the modules section in
>>>>>the patchbay. Does the Mec master module show up that these
>>>>>new 8 in/outs are installed in?
>>>>>
>>>>>More info will help.
>>>>>Tom
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Jeff Hoover" <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote in message =
>>>>>news:484b6746@linux...
>>>>> David,
>>>>>
>>>>> What version of Paris and what OS? How many EDS cards? If more
>>>>> than=20
>>>>> one, what is connected to each?
>>>>>
>>>>> Just need more info to help with troubleshooting.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>
>>>>> David Feldman wrote:
>>>>> > Hi there,
>>>>> > I'm hoping that someone can point me in the right direction for =
>>>>>troubleshooting
>>>>> > an installation problem. I've recently put a new 8-in an 8-out
>>>>> card
>>>> =
>>>>>into
>>>>> > my MEC, and when I run Paris, they don't show up on the patch bay
> =
>>>>>and I can't
>>>>> > seem to use them. I'm wondering if there are steps that I am =
>>>>>missing here.
>>>>> > I've looked in the manual and can't find any notes on installing
> =
>>>>>these things
>>>>> > into an existing MEC. So I'm a little bit lost. Any help would
> be
>>>> =
>>>>>appreciated.
>>>>> > Thanks,
>>>>> > Davi
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>>>>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>>>>>
>>>>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>>>><HTML><HEAD>
>>>>><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>>>>>charset=3Diso-8859-1">
>>>>><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2900.2180" name=3DGENERATOR>
>>>>><STYLE></STYLE>
>>>>></HEAD>
>>>>><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>David,</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>In theory they should just show up in
> =
>>>>>the modules=20
>>>>>section in</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the patchbay. Does the Mec master =
>>>>>module show=20
>>>>>up that these</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>new 8 in/outs are installed =
>>>>>in?</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>More info will help.</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV> </DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>>><BLOCKQUOTE=20
>>>>>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>>>>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>>>>> <DIV>"Jeff Hoover" <<A=20
>>>>> href=3D"mailto:jkhoover@excite.com">jkhoover@excite.com</A>> wrote
> =
>>>>>in message=20
>>>>> <A=20
>>>>> =
>>>>>href=3D"news:484b6746@linux">news:484b6746@linux</A>...</DIV>David,<BR><B=
>>>>>R>What=20
>>>>> version of Paris and what OS? How many EDS cards? If more =
>>>>>than=20
>>>>> <BR>one, what is connected to each?<BR><BR>Just need more info to
>>>>> help
>>>> =
>>>>>with=20
>>>>> troubleshooting.<BR><BR>Jeff<BR><BR>David Feldman wrote:<BR>> Hi=20
>>>>> there,<BR>> I'm hoping that someone can point me in the right =
>>>>>direction for=20
>>>>> troubleshooting<BR>> an installation problem. I've recently =
>>>>>put a new=20
>>>>> 8-in an 8-out card into<BR>> my MEC, and when I run Paris, they =
>>>>>don't show=20
>>>>> up on the patch bay and I can't<BR>> seem to use them. I'm =
>>>>>wondering=20
>>>>> if there are steps that I am missing here.<BR>> I've looked =
>>>>>in the=20
>>>>> manual and can't find any notes on installing these things<BR>> =
>>>>>into an=20
>>>>> existing MEC. So I'm a little bit lost. Any help would be=20
>>>>> appreciated.<BR>> Thanks,<BR>> Davi</BLOCKQUOTE>
>>>>><DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam,
> =
>>>>>and=20
>>>>>you?<BR><A=20
>>>>>href=3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
>>>>>.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
Re: installing 8-in & 8-out cards [message #99188 is a reply to message #99175] Wed, 11 June 2008 08:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
EK Sound is currently offline  EK Sound   CANADA
Messages: 939
Registered: June 2005
Senior Member
Aaron is quite correct... only 4 cards "live" at one time. Why have 9
slots? Choice. You could have 16 channels worth of analog I/O and 16
channels worth of adat I/O for 8 cards, and the SMPTE card, which makes
9. This would give you the option of having all 16 I/O digital, or
analog, or a mix.

David.

David Feldman wrote:
> I'm not sure I understand.
>
> In the itemized list in the patch bay on the right hand side, I only see
> "Modules A" which only shows 16 ins and 16 outs.
>
> Do you mean to say that each MEC can only run up to two input and output
> modules? If that's the case, then why in the world does the MEC have 9 expansion
> slots? Am I going to have to run a whole extra 4-rack-unit MEC just to use
> my extra modules? Or is there a more efficient workaround that I don't know
> about here? Or am I misunderstanding this completely?
>
> Somebody help explain this to me.
> -David
>
>
> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>> To clarify, you can only have 2 input and 2 output modules per MEC, giving
>
>> you 16 ins and 16 outs for each Paris submixer.
>>
>> AA
>>
>>
>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>> news:484c87c8$1@linux...
>>> OOohhhh.. ok. This is a limit. You have to select which modules from the
>
>>> itemized lists in the patch bay on the right hand side. Adat, no matter
>
>>> where in the MEC, will be the first default as I recall. I think this
> has
>>> to do with how Paris does it's hardware inventory. Make sure to scroll
> on
>>> that list, if they aren't there then you have a problem. If they are,
> that
>>> is normal Paris behaviour.
>>>
>>> AA
>>>
>>>
>>> "David Feldman" <dfeldmania@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:484c80cb$1@linux...
>>>> Hi guys,
>>>> Thanks for trying to help. Here is some more information that I should
>
>>>> have
>>>> included earlier. I am running Paris 3.0 on Windows ME with three EDS
>
>>>> cards
>>>> installed. My MEC is connected to the first EDS card and that's it.
>
>>>> When
>>>> I run Paris, only 16 ins and outs show up in the modules section of the
>
>>>> patch
>>>> bay. What do you think?
>>>> -David
>>>>
>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> David,
>>>>> In theory they should just show up in the modules section in
>>>>> the patchbay. Does the Mec master module show up that these
>>>>> new 8 in/outs are installed in?
>>>>>
>>>>> More info will help.
>>>>> Tom
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Jeff Hoover" <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote in message =
>>>>> news:484b6746@linux...
>>>>> David,
>>>>>
>>>>> What version of Paris and what OS? How many EDS cards? If more
>>>>> than=20
>>>>> one, what is connected to each?
>>>>>
>>>>> Just need more info to help with troubleshooting.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>
>>>>> David Feldman wrote:
>>>>> > Hi there,
>>>>> > I'm hoping that someone can point me in the right direction for =
>>>>> troubleshooting
>>>>> > an installation problem. I've recently put a new 8-in an 8-out card
>>>> =
>>>>> into
>>>>> > my MEC, and when I run Paris, they don't show up on the patch bay
> =
>>>>> and I can't
>>>>> > seem to use them. I'm wondering if there are steps that I am =
>>>>> missing here.
>>>>> > I've looked in the manual and can't find any notes on installing
> =
>>>>> these things
>>>>> > into an existing MEC. So I'm a little bit lost. Any help would
> be
>>>> =
>>>>> appreciated.
>>>>> > Thanks,
>>>>> > Davi
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>>>>> http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>>>>>
>>>>> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>>>> <HTML><HEAD>
>>>>> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>>>>> charset=3Diso-8859-1">
>>>>> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2900.2180" name=3DGENERATOR>
>>>>> <STYLE></STYLE>
>>>>> </HEAD>
>>>>> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
>>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>David,</FONT></DIV>
>>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>In theory they should just show up in
> =
>>>>> the modules=20
>>>>> section in</FONT></DIV>
>>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the patchbay. Does the Mec master =
>>>>> module show=20
>>>>> up that these</FONT></DIV>
>>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>new 8 in/outs are installed =
>>>>> in?</FONT></DIV>
>>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>More info will help.</FONT></DIV>
>>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>>>>> <DIV> </DIV>
>>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>>> <BLOCKQUOTE=20
>>>>> style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>>>>> BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>>>>> <DIV>"Jeff Hoover" <<A=20
>>>>> href=3D"mailto:jkhoover@excite.com">jkhoover@excite.com</A>> wrote
> =
>>>>> in message=20
>>>>> <A=20
>>>>> =
>>>>> href=3D"news:484b6746@linux">news:484b6746@linux</A>...</DIV>David,<BR><B=
>>>>> R>What=20
>>>>> version of Paris and what OS? How many EDS cards? If more =
>>>>> than=20
>>>>> <BR>one, what is connected to each?<BR><BR>Just need more info to help
>>>> =
>>>>> with=20
>>>>> troubleshooting.<BR><BR>Jeff<BR><BR>David Feldman wrote:<BR>> Hi=20
>>>>> there,<BR>> I'm hoping that someone can point me in the right =
>>>>> direction for=20
>>>>> troubleshooting<BR>> an installation problem. I've recently =
>>>>> put a new=20
>>>>> 8-in an 8-out card into<BR>> my MEC, and when I run Paris, they =
>>>>> don't show=20
>>>>> up on the patch bay and I can't<BR>> seem to use them. I'm =
>>>>> wondering=20
>>>>> if there are steps that I am missing here.<BR>> I've looked =
>>>>> in the=20
>>>>> manual and can't find any notes on installing these things<BR>> =
>>>>> into an=20
>>>>> existing MEC. So I'm a little bit lost. Any help would be=20
>>>>> appreciated.<BR>> Thanks,<BR>> Davi</BLOCKQUOTE>
>>>>> <DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam,
> =
>>>>> and=20
>>>>> you?<BR><A=20
>>>>> href=3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
>>>>> .html</A> </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: installing 8-in & 8-out cards [message #99215 is a reply to message #99188] Wed, 11 June 2008 22:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
David Feldman is currently offline  David Feldman
Messages: 13
Registered: October 2008
Junior Member
Thanks for explaining this to me guys. I kind of see the logic, but I guess
I just took for granted that the hardware pairings would be more flexible,
and I never found anything specifically telling me differently. For my situation
(3 EDS cards, one MEC), it just seems like a waste of space and hardware.
Oh well, I guess I'm dragging my spare MEC out of storage.
-David

EK Sound <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote:
>Aaron is quite correct... only 4 cards "live" at one time. Why have 9
>slots? Choice. You could have 16 channels worth of analog I/O and 16
>channels worth of adat I/O for 8 cards, and the SMPTE card, which makes

>9. This would give you the option of having all 16 I/O digital, or
>analog, or a mix.
>
>David.
>
>David Feldman wrote:
>> I'm not sure I understand.
>>
>> In the itemized list in the patch bay on the right hand side, I only see
>> "Modules A" which only shows 16 ins and 16 outs.
>>
>> Do you mean to say that each MEC can only run up to two input and output
>> modules? If that's the case, then why in the world does the MEC have
9 expansion
>> slots? Am I going to have to run a whole extra 4-rack-unit MEC just to
use
>> my extra modules? Or is there a more efficient workaround that I don't
know
>> about here? Or am I misunderstanding this completely?
>>
>> Somebody help explain this to me.
>> -David
>>
>>
>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>> To clarify, you can only have 2 input and 2 output modules per MEC, giving
>>
>>> you 16 ins and 16 outs for each Paris submixer.
>>>
>>> AA
>>>
>>>
>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>> news:484c87c8$1@linux...
>>>> OOohhhh.. ok. This is a limit. You have to select which modules from
the
>>
>>>> itemized lists in the patch bay on the right hand side. Adat, no matter
>>
>>>> where in the MEC, will be the first default as I recall. I think this
>> has
>>>> to do with how Paris does it's hardware inventory. Make sure to scroll
>> on
>>>> that list, if they aren't there then you have a problem. If they are,
>> that
>>>> is normal Paris behaviour.
>>>>
>>>> AA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "David Feldman" <dfeldmania@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:484c80cb$1@linux...
>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>> Thanks for trying to help. Here is some more information that I should
>>
>>>>> have
>>>>> included earlier. I am running Paris 3.0 on Windows ME with three
EDS
>>
>>>>> cards
>>>>> installed. My MEC is connected to the first EDS card and that's it.
>>
>>>>> When
>>>>> I run Paris, only 16 ins and outs show up in the modules section of
the
>>
>>>>> patch
>>>>> bay. What do you think?
>>>>> -David
>>>>>
>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> David,
>>>>>> In theory they should just show up in the modules section in
>>>>>> the patchbay. Does the Mec master module show up that these
>>>>>> new 8 in/outs are installed in?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> More info will help.
>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Jeff Hoover" <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote in message =
>>>>>> news:484b6746@linux...
>>>>>> David,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What version of Paris and what OS? How many EDS cards? If more

>>>>>> than=20
>>>>>> one, what is connected to each?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just need more info to help with troubleshooting.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>>
>>>>>> David Feldman wrote:
>>>>>> > Hi there,
>>>>>> > I'm hoping that someone can point me in the right direction for
=
>>>>>> troubleshooting
>>>>>> > an installation problem. I've recently put a new 8-in an 8-out
card
>>>>> =
>>>>>> into
>>>>>> > my MEC, and when I run Paris, they don't show up on the patch bay
>> =
>>>>>> and I can't
>>>>>> > seem to use them. I'm wondering if there are steps that I am =
>>>>>> missing here.
>>>>>> > I've looked in the manual and can't find any notes on installing
>> =
>>>>>> these things
>>>>>> > into an existing MEC. So I'm a little bit lost. Any help would
>> be
>>>>> =
>>>>>> appreciated.
>>>>>> > Thanks,
>>>>>> > Davi
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>>>>>> http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>>>>> <HTML><HEAD>
>>>>>> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>>>>>> charset=3Diso-8859-1">
>>>>>> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2900.2180" name=3DGENERATOR>
>>>>>> <STYLE></STYLE>
>>>>>> </HEAD>
>>>>>> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
>>>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>David,</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>In theory they should just show up
in
>> =
>>>>>> the modules=20
>>>>>> section in</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the patchbay. Does the Mec master
=
>>>>>> module show=20
>>>>>> up that these</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>new 8 in/outs are installed =
>>>>>> in?</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>More info will help.</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>> <DIV> </DIV>
>>>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>>>> <BLOCKQUOTE=20
>>>>>> style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;
=
>>>>>> BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>>>>>> <DIV>"Jeff Hoover" <<A=20
>>>>>> href=3D"mailto:jkhoover@excite.com">jkhoover@excite.com</A>> wrote
>> =
>>>>>> in message=20
>>>>>> <A=20
>>>>>> =
>>>>>> href=3D"news:484b6746@linux">news:484b6746@linux</A>...</DIV>David,<BR><B=
>>>>>> R>What=20
>>>>>> version of Paris and what OS? How many EDS cards? If more =
>>>>>> than=20
>>>>>> <BR>one, what is connected to each?<BR><BR>Just need more info to
help
>>>>> =
>>>>>> with=20
>>>>>> troubleshooting.<BR><BR>Jeff<BR><BR>David Feldman wrote:<BR>> Hi=20
>>>>>> there,<BR>> I'm hoping that someone can point me in the right =
>>>>>> direction for=20
>>>>>> troubleshooting<BR>> an installation problem. I've recently =
>>>>>> put a new=20
>>>>>> 8-in an 8-out card into<BR>> my MEC, and when I run Paris, they =
>>>>>> don't show=20
>>>>>> up on the patch bay and I can't<BR>> seem to use them. I'm =
>>>>>> wondering=20
>>>>>> if there are steps that I am missing here.<BR>> I've looked =
>>>>>> in the=20
>>>>>> manual and can't find any notes on installing these things<BR>> =
>>>>>> into an=20
>>>>>> existing MEC. So I'm a little bit lost. Any help would be=20
>>>>>> appreciated.<BR>> Thanks,<BR>> Davi</BLOCKQUOTE>
>>>>>> <DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam,
>> =
>>>>>> and=20
>>>>>> you?<BR><A=20
>>>>>> href=3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
>>>>>> .html</A> </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
Re: installing 8-in & 8-out cards [message #99219 is a reply to message #99215] Thu, 12 June 2008 00:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1988
Registered: May 2008
Senior Member
Just FYI.. be also aware that adding a 2nd MEC will be fine sans external
clock, but a 3rd will require you buy a word clock. Also, the 2nd MEC may
want to live on EDS 2 or EDS 3. It's *generally* the last one, in your case
#3, but not always.
Make sure to use a quality word clock cable from the 1st MEC to the 2nd MEC.

AA


"David Feldman" <dfeldmania@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:4850b664$1@linux...
>
> Thanks for explaining this to me guys. I kind of see the logic, but I
> guess
> I just took for granted that the hardware pairings would be more flexible,
> and I never found anything specifically telling me differently. For my
> situation
> (3 EDS cards, one MEC), it just seems like a waste of space and hardware.
> Oh well, I guess I'm dragging my spare MEC out of storage.
> -David
>
> EK Sound <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote:
>>Aaron is quite correct... only 4 cards "live" at one time. Why have 9
>>slots? Choice. You could have 16 channels worth of analog I/O and 16
>>channels worth of adat I/O for 8 cards, and the SMPTE card, which makes
>
>>9. This would give you the option of having all 16 I/O digital, or
>>analog, or a mix.
>>
>>David.
>>
>>David Feldman wrote:
>>> I'm not sure I understand.
>>>
>>> In the itemized list in the patch bay on the right hand side, I only see
>>> "Modules A" which only shows 16 ins and 16 outs.
>>>
>>> Do you mean to say that each MEC can only run up to two input and output
>>> modules? If that's the case, then why in the world does the MEC have
> 9 expansion
>>> slots? Am I going to have to run a whole extra 4-rack-unit MEC just to
> use
>>> my extra modules? Or is there a more efficient workaround that I don't
> know
>>> about here? Or am I misunderstanding this completely?
>>>
>>> Somebody help explain this to me.
>>> -David
>>>
>>>
>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>> To clarify, you can only have 2 input and 2 output modules per MEC,
>>>> giving
>>>
>>>> you 16 ins and 16 outs for each Paris submixer.
>>>>
>>>> AA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>>> news:484c87c8$1@linux...
>>>>> OOohhhh.. ok. This is a limit. You have to select which modules from
> the
>>>
>>>>> itemized lists in the patch bay on the right hand side. Adat, no
>>>>> matter
>>>
>>>>> where in the MEC, will be the first default as I recall. I think this
>>> has
>>>>> to do with how Paris does it's hardware inventory. Make sure to scroll
>>> on
>>>>> that list, if they aren't there then you have a problem. If they are,
>>> that
>>>>> is normal Paris behaviour.
>>>>>
>>>>> AA
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "David Feldman" <dfeldmania@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:484c80cb$1@linux...
>>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>> Thanks for trying to help. Here is some more information that I
>>>>>> should
>>>
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> included earlier. I am running Paris 3.0 on Windows ME with three
> EDS
>>>
>>>>>> cards
>>>>>> installed. My MEC is connected to the first EDS card and that's it.
>>>
>>>>>> When
>>>>>> I run Paris, only 16 ins and outs show up in the modules section of
> the
>>>
>>>>>> patch
>>>>>> bay. What do you think?
>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> David,
>>>>>>> In theory they should just show up in the modules section in
>>>>>>> the patchbay. Does the Mec master module show up that these
>>>>>>> new 8 in/outs are installed in?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> More info will help.
>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Jeff Hoover" <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote in message =
>>>>>>> news:484b6746@linux...
>>>>>>> David,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What version of Paris and what OS? How many EDS cards? If more
>
>>>>>>> than=20
>>>>>>> one, what is connected to each?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just need more info to help with troubleshooting.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> David Feldman wrote:
>>>>>>> > Hi there,
>>>>>>> > I'm hoping that someone can point me in the right direction for
> =
>>>>>>> troubleshooting
>>>>>>> > an installation problem. I've recently put a new 8-in an 8-out
> card
>>>>>> =
>>>>>>> into
>>>>>>> > my MEC, and when I run Paris, they don't show up on the patch bay
>>> =
>>>>>>> and I can't
>>>>>>> > seem to use them. I'm wondering if there are steps that I am =
>>>>>>> missing here.
>>>>>>> > I've looked in the manual and can't find any notes on installing
>>> =
>>>>>>> these things
>>>>>>> > into an existing MEC. So I'm a little bit lost. Any help would
>>> be
>>>>>> =
>>>>>>> appreciated.
>>>>>>> > Thanks,
>>>>>>> > Davi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>>>>>>> http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>>>>>> <HTML><HEAD>
>>>>>>> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>>>>>>> charset=3Diso-8859-1">
>>>>>>> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2900.2180" name=3DGENERATOR>
>>>>>>> <STYLE></STYLE>
>>>>>>> </HEAD>
>>>>>>> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
>>>>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>David,</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>In theory they should just show up
> in
>>> =
>>>>>>> the modules=20
>>>>>>> section in</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the patchbay. Does the Mec master
> =
>>>>>>> module show=20
>>>>>>> up that these</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>new 8 in/outs are installed =
>>>>>>> in?</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>More info will help.</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>>> <DIV> </DIV>
>>>>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>>>>> <BLOCKQUOTE=20
>>>>>>> style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;
> =
>>>>>>> BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>>>>>>> <DIV>"Jeff Hoover" <<A=20
>>>>>>> href=3D"mailto:jkhoover@excite.com">jkhoover@excite.com</A>> wrote
>>> =
>>>>>>> in message=20
>>>>>>> <A=20
>>>>>>> =
>>>>>>> href=3D"news:484b6746@linux">news:484b6746@linux</A>...</DIV>David,<BR><B=
>>>>>>> R>What=20
>>>>>>> version of Paris and what OS? How many EDS cards? If more =
>>>>>>> than=20
>>>>>>> <BR>one, what is connected to each?<BR><BR>Just need more info to
> help
>>>>>> =
>>>>>>> with=20
>>>>>>> troubleshooting.<BR><BR>Jeff<BR><BR>David Feldman wrote:<BR>> Hi=20
>>>>>>> there,<BR>> I'm hoping that someone can point me in the right =
>>>>>>> direction for=20
>>>>>>> troubleshooting<BR>> an installation problem. I've recently =
>>>>>>> put a new=20
>>>>>>> 8-in an 8-out card into<BR>> my MEC, and when I run Paris, they =
>>>>>>> don't show=20
>>>>>>> up on the patch bay and I can't<BR>> seem to use them. I'm =
>>>>>>> wondering=20
>>>>>>> if there are steps that I am missing here.<BR>> I've looked =
>>>>>>> in the=20
>>>>>>> manual and can't find any notes on installing these things<BR>> =
>>>>>>> into an=20
>>>>>>> existing MEC. So I'm a little bit lost. Any help would be=20
>>>>>>> appreciated.<BR>> Thanks,<BR>> Davi</BLOCKQUOTE>
>>>>>>> <DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight
>>>>>>> spam,
>>> =
>>>>>>> and=20
>>>>>>> you?<BR><A=20
>>>>>>> href=3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
>>>>>>> .html</A> </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>
Re: installing 8-in & 8-out cards [message #99221 is a reply to message #99219] Thu, 12 June 2008 00:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
JeffH is currently offline  JeffH   UNITED STATES
Messages: 307
Registered: October 2007
Location: Wamic, OR
Senior Member
FYI,

I'm sitting with a six card system with MEcs on cards 1 and 2.
Surprisingly no problems and multipl ADATs on the MECs. I am using a
word clock even though it probably isn't necssary in this config.

JH

Aaron Allen wrote:
> Just FYI.. be also aware that adding a 2nd MEC will be fine sans external
> clock, but a 3rd will require you buy a word clock. Also, the 2nd MEC may
> want to live on EDS 2 or EDS 3. It's *generally* the last one, in your case
> #3, but not always.
> Make sure to use a quality word clock cable from the 1st MEC to the 2nd MEC.
>
> AA
>
>
> "David Feldman" <dfeldmania@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:4850b664$1@linux...
>
>>Thanks for explaining this to me guys. I kind of see the logic, but I
>>guess
>>I just took for granted that the hardware pairings would be more flexible,
>>and I never found anything specifically telling me differently. For my
>>situation
>>(3 EDS cards, one MEC), it just seems like a waste of space and hardware.
>>Oh well, I guess I'm dragging my spare MEC out of storage.
>>-David
>>
>>EK Sound <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote:
>>
>>>Aaron is quite correct... only 4 cards "live" at one time. Why have 9
>>>slots? Choice. You could have 16 channels worth of analog I/O and 16
>>>channels worth of adat I/O for 8 cards, and the SMPTE card, which makes
>>
>>>9. This would give you the option of having all 16 I/O digital, or
>>>analog, or a mix.
>>>
>>>David.
>>>
>>>David Feldman wrote:
>>>
>>>>I'm not sure I understand.
>>>>
>>>>In the itemized list in the patch bay on the right hand side, I only see
>>>>"Modules A" which only shows 16 ins and 16 outs.
>>>>
>>>>Do you mean to say that each MEC can only run up to two input and output
>>>>modules? If that's the case, then why in the world does the MEC have
>>
>>9 expansion
>>
>>>>slots? Am I going to have to run a whole extra 4-rack-unit MEC just to
>>
>>use
>>
>>>>my extra modules? Or is there a more efficient workaround that I don't
>>
>>know
>>
>>>>about here? Or am I misunderstanding this completely?
>>>>
>>>>Somebody help explain this to me.
>>>>-David
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>To clarify, you can only have 2 input and 2 output modules per MEC,
>>>>>giving
>>>>
>>>>>you 16 ins and 16 outs for each Paris submixer.
>>>>>
>>>>>AA
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>>>>news:484c87c8$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>>>OOohhhh.. ok. This is a limit. You have to select which modules from
>>
>>the
>>
>>>>>>itemized lists in the patch bay on the right hand side. Adat, no
>>>>>>matter
>>>>
>>>>>>where in the MEC, will be the first default as I recall. I think this
>>>>
>>>>has
>>>>
>>>>>>to do with how Paris does it's hardware inventory. Make sure to scroll
>>>>
>>>>on
>>>>
>>>>>>that list, if they aren't there then you have a problem. If they are,
>>>>
>>>>that
>>>>
>>>>>>is normal Paris behaviour.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>AA
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"David Feldman" <dfeldmania@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:484c80cb$1@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hi guys,
>>>>>>>Thanks for trying to help. Here is some more information that I
>>>>>>>should
>>>>
>>>>>>>have
>>>>>>>included earlier. I am running Paris 3.0 on Windows ME with three
>>
>>EDS
>>
>>>>>>>cards
>>>>>>>installed. My MEC is connected to the first EDS card and that's it.
>>>>
>>>>>>>When
>>>>>>>I run Paris, only 16 ins and outs show up in the modules section of
>>
>>the
>>
>>>>>>>patch
>>>>>>>bay. What do you think?
>>>>>>>-David
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>David,
>>>>>>>>In theory they should just show up in the modules section in
>>>>>>>>the patchbay. Does the Mec master module show up that these
>>>>>>>>new 8 in/outs are installed in?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>More info will help.
>>>>>>>>Tom
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Jeff Hoover" <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote in message =
>>>>>>>>news:484b6746@linux...
>>>>>>>> David,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What version of Paris and what OS? How many EDS cards? If more
>>
>>>>>>>>than=20
>>>>>>>> one, what is connected to each?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Just need more info to help with troubleshooting.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> David Feldman wrote:
>>>>>>>> > Hi there,
>>>>>>>> > I'm hoping that someone can point me in the right direction for
>>
>>=
>>
>>>>>>>>troubleshooting
>>>>>>>> > an installation problem. I've recently put a new 8-in an 8-out
>>
>>card
>>
>>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>into
>>>>>>>> > my MEC, and when I run Paris, they don't show up on the patch bay
>>>>
>>>>=
>>>>
>>>>>>>>and I can't
>>>>>>>> > seem to use them. I'm wondering if there are steps that I am =
>>>>>>>>missing here.
>>>>>>>> > I've looked in the manual and can't find any notes on installing
>>>>
>>>>=
>>>>
>>>>>>>>these things
>>>>>>>> > into an existing MEC. So I'm a little bit lost. Any help would
>>>>
>>>>be
>>>>
>>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>appreciated.
>>>>>>>> > Thanks,
>>>>>>>> > Davi
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>>>>>>>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>>>>>>><HTML><HEAD>
>>>>>>>><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>>>>>>>>charset=3Diso-8859-1">
>>>>>>>><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2900.2180" name=3DGENERATOR>
>>>>>>>><STYLE></STYLE>
>>>>>>>></HEAD>
>>>>>>>><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
>>>>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>David,</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>In theory they should just show up
>>
>>in
>>
>>>>=
>>>>
>>>>>>>>the modules=20
>>>>>>>>section in</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the patchbay. Does the Mec master
>>
>>=
>>
>>>>>>>>module show=20
>>>>>>>>up that these</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>new 8 in/outs are installed =
>>>>>>>>in?</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>More info will help.</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>>>><DIV> </DIV>
>>>>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>>>>>><BLOCKQUOTE=20
>>>>>>>>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;
>>
>>=
>>
>>>>>>>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>>>>>>>> <DIV>"Jeff Hoover" <<A=20
>>>>>>>> href=3D"mailto:jkhoover@excite.com">jkhoover@excite.com</A>> wrote
>>>>
>>>>=
>>>>
>>>>>>>>in message=20
>>>>>>>> <A=20
>>>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>>href=3D"news:484b6746@linux">news:484b6746@linux</A>...</DIV>David,<BR><B=
>>>>>>>>R>What=20
>>>>>>>> version of Paris and what OS? How many EDS cards? If more =
>>>>>>>>than=20
>>>>>>>> <BR>one, what is connected to each?<BR><BR>Just need more info to
>>
>>help
>>
>>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>with=20
>>>>>>>> troubleshooting.<BR><BR>Jeff<BR><BR>David Feldman wrote:<BR>> Hi=20
>>>>>>>> there,<BR>> I'm hoping that someone can point me in the right =
>>>>>>>>direction for=20
>>>>>>>> troubleshooting<BR>> an installation problem. I've recently =
>>>>>>>>put a new=20
>>>>>>>> 8-in an 8-out card into<BR>> my MEC, and when I run Paris, they =
>>>>>>>>don't show=20
>>>>>>>> up on the patch bay and I can't<BR>> seem to use them. I'm =
>>>>>>>>wondering=20
>>>>>>>> if there are steps that I am missing here.<BR>> I've looked =
>>>>>>>>in the=20
>>>>>>>> manual and can't find any notes on installing these things<BR>> =
>>>>>>>>into an=20
>>>>>>>> existing MEC. So I'm a little bit lost. Any help would be=20
>>>>>>>> appreciated.<BR>> Thanks,<BR>> Davi</BLOCKQUOTE>
>>>>>>>><DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight
>>>>>>>>spam,
>>>>
>>>>=
>>>>
>>>>>>>>and=20
>>>>>>>>you?<BR><A=20
>>>>>>>>href=3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
>>>>>>>>.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>
>
Re: installing 8-in & 8-out cards [message #99234 is a reply to message #99221] Fri, 13 June 2008 10:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
David Feldman is currently offline  David Feldman
Messages: 13
Registered: October 2008
Junior Member
Here's a question. If I swapped out my third 8-in and 8-out cards with ADAT
cards, would I be able to run 24-track recording off of one MEC, patching
the extra inputs to the mixer module of one of my extra EDS cards. Does
this make sense? I'm interested to know if this is a potential work-around
for my situation. Those MECs sure do take up a lot of space.
Thanks.
David

Jeff Hoover <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote:
>FYI,
>
>I'm sitting with a six card system with MEcs on cards 1 and 2.
>Surprisingly no problems and multipl ADATs on the MECs. I am using a
>word clock even though it probably isn't necssary in this config.
>
>JH
>
>Aaron Allen wrote:
>> Just FYI.. be also aware that adding a 2nd MEC will be fine sans external

>> clock, but a 3rd will require you buy a word clock. Also, the 2nd MEC
may
>> want to live on EDS 2 or EDS 3. It's *generally* the last one, in your
case
>> #3, but not always.
>> Make sure to use a quality word clock cable from the 1st MEC to the 2nd
MEC.
>>
>> AA
>>
>>
>> "David Feldman" <dfeldmania@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:4850b664$1@linux...
>>
>>>Thanks for explaining this to me guys. I kind of see the logic, but I

>>>guess
>>>I just took for granted that the hardware pairings would be more flexible,
>>>and I never found anything specifically telling me differently. For my

>>>situation
>>>(3 EDS cards, one MEC), it just seems like a waste of space and hardware.
>>>Oh well, I guess I'm dragging my spare MEC out of storage.
>>>-David
>>>
>>>EK Sound <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Aaron is quite correct... only 4 cards "live" at one time. Why have
9
>>>>slots? Choice. You could have 16 channels worth of analog I/O and 16
>>>>channels worth of adat I/O for 8 cards, and the SMPTE card, which makes
>>>
>>>>9. This would give you the option of having all 16 I/O digital, or
>>>>analog, or a mix.
>>>>
>>>>David.
>>>>
>>>>David Feldman wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I'm not sure I understand.
>>>>>
>>>>>In the itemized list in the patch bay on the right hand side, I only
see
>>>>>"Modules A" which only shows 16 ins and 16 outs.
>>>>>
>>>>>Do you mean to say that each MEC can only run up to two input and output
>>>>>modules? If that's the case, then why in the world does the MEC have
>>>
>>>9 expansion
>>>
>>>>>slots? Am I going to have to run a whole extra 4-rack-unit MEC just
to
>>>
>>>use
>>>
>>>>>my extra modules? Or is there a more efficient workaround that I don't
>>>
>>>know
>>>
>>>>>about here? Or am I misunderstanding this completely?
>>>>>
>>>>>Somebody help explain this to me.
>>>>>-David
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>To clarify, you can only have 2 input and 2 output modules per MEC,

>>>>>>giving
>>>>>
>>>>>>you 16 ins and 16 outs for each Paris submixer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>AA
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:484c87c8$1@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>OOohhhh.. ok. This is a limit. You have to select which modules from
>>>
>>>the
>>>
>>>>>>>itemized lists in the patch bay on the right hand side. Adat, no
>>>>>>>matter
>>>>>
>>>>>>>where in the MEC, will be the first default as I recall. I think this
>>>>>
>>>>>has
>>>>>
>>>>>>>to do with how Paris does it's hardware inventory. Make sure to scroll
>>>>>
>>>>>on
>>>>>
>>>>>>>that list, if they aren't there then you have a problem. If they are,
>>>>>
>>>>>that
>>>>>
>>>>>>>is normal Paris behaviour.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>AA
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"David Feldman" <dfeldmania@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:484c80cb$1@linux...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Hi guys,
>>>>>>>>Thanks for trying to help. Here is some more information that I

>>>>>>>>should
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>have
>>>>>>>>included earlier. I am running Paris 3.0 on Windows ME with three
>>>
>>>EDS
>>>
>>>>>>>>cards
>>>>>>>>installed. My MEC is connected to the first EDS card and that's
it.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>When
>>>>>>>>I run Paris, only 16 ins and outs show up in the modules section
of
>>>
>>>the
>>>
>>>>>>>>patch
>>>>>>>>bay. What do you think?
>>>>>>>>-David
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>David,
>>>>>>>>>In theory they should just show up in the modules section in
>>>>>>>>>the patchbay. Does the Mec master module show up that these
>>>>>>>>>new 8 in/outs are installed in?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>More info will help.
>>>>>>>>>Tom
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Jeff Hoover" <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote in message =
>>>>>>>>>news:484b6746@linux...
>>>>>>>>> David,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What version of Paris and what OS? How many EDS cards? If more
>>>
>>>>>>>>>than=20
>>>>>>>>> one, what is connected to each?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Just need more info to help with troubleshooting.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> David Feldman wrote:
>>>>>>>>> > Hi there,
>>>>>>>>> > I'm hoping that someone can point me in the right direction for
>>>
>>>=
>>>
>>>>>>>>>troubleshooting
>>>>>>>>> > an installation problem. I've recently put a new 8-in an 8-out
>>>
>>>card
>>>
>>>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>into
>>>>>>>>> > my MEC, and when I run Paris, they don't show up on the patch
bay
>>>>>
>>>>>=
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>and I can't
>>>>>>>>> > seem to use them. I'm wondering if there are steps that I am
=
>>>>>>>>>missing here.
>>>>>>>>> > I've looked in the manual and can't find any notes on installing
>>>>>
>>>>>=
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>these things
>>>>>>>>> > into an existing MEC. So I'm a little bit lost. Any help would
>>>>>
>>>>>be
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>appreciated.
>>>>>>>>> > Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> > Davi
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>>>>>>>>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>>>>>>>><HTML><HEAD>
>>>>>>>>><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>>>>>>>>>charset=3Diso-8859-1">
>>>>>>>>><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2900.2180" name=3DGENERATOR>
>>>>>>>>><STYLE></STYLE>
>>>>>>>>></HEAD>
>>>>>>>>><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
>>>>>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>David,</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>In theory they should just show
up
>>>
>>>in
>>>
>>>>>=
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>the modules=20
>>>>>>>>>section in</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the patchbay. Does the Mec master
>>>
>>>=
>>>
>>>>>>>>>module show=20
>>>>>>>>>up that these</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>new 8 in/outs are installed =
>>>>>>>>>in?</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>>>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>More info will help.</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>>>>><DIV> </DIV>
>>>>>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>>>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>>>>>>><BLOCKQUOTE=20
>>>>>>>>>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;
>>>
>>>=
>>>
>>>>>>>>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>>>>>>>>> <DIV>"Jeff Hoover" <<A=20
>>>>>>>>> href=3D"mailto:jkhoover@excite.com">jkhoover@excite.com</A>> wrote
>>>>>
>>>>>=
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>in message=20
>>>>>>>>> <A=20
>>>>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>>>href=3D"news:484b6746@linux">news:484b6746@linux</A>...</DIV>David,<BR><B=
>>>>>>>>>R>What=20
>>>>>>>>> version of Paris and what OS? How many EDS cards? If more =
>>>>>>>>>than=20
>>>>>>>>> <BR>one, what is connected to each?<BR><BR>Just need more info
to
>>>
>>>help
>>>
>>>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>with=20
>>>>>>>>> troubleshooting.<BR><BR>Jeff<BR><BR>David Feldman wrote:<BR>> Hi=20
>>>>>>>>> there,<BR>> I'm hoping that someone can point me in the right =
>>>>>>>>>direction for=20
>>>>>>>>> troubleshooting<BR>> an installation problem. I've recently =
>>>>>>>>>put a new=20
>>>>>>>>> 8-in an 8-out card into<BR>> my MEC, and when I run Paris, they
=
>>>>>>>>>don't show=20
>>>>>>>>> up on the patch bay and I can't<BR>> seem to use them. I'm =
>>>>>>>>>wondering=20
>>>>>>>>> if there are steps that I am missing here.<BR>> I've looked =
>>>>>>>>>in the=20
>>>>>>>>> manual and can't find any notes on installing these things<BR>>
=
>>>>>>>>>into an=20
>>>>>>>>> existing MEC. So I'm a little bit lost. Any help would be=20
>>>>>>>>> appreciated.<BR>> Thanks,<BR>> Davi</BLOCKQUOTE>
>>>>>>>>><DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight

>>>>>>>>>spam,
>>>>>
>>>>>=
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>and=20
>>>>>>>>>you?<BR><A=20
>>>>>>>>>href=3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
>>>>>>>>>.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>
>>
Re: installing 8-in & 8-out cards [message #99235 is a reply to message #99234] Fri, 13 June 2008 10:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
EK Sound is currently offline  EK Sound   CANADA
Messages: 939
Registered: June 2005
Senior Member
No, you can not cross card boundaries with I/O. This means you can only
record a maximum of 16 channels per MEC / Card / Submix combo at one
time... regardless of the number of EDS cards you have, or I/O cards you
have in your MEC.

David.

David Feldman wrote:
> Here's a question. If I swapped out my third 8-in and 8-out cards with ADAT
> cards, would I be able to run 24-track recording off of one MEC, patching
> the extra inputs to the mixer module of one of my extra EDS cards. Does
> this make sense? I'm interested to know if this is a potential work-around
> for my situation. Those MECs sure do take up a lot of space.
> Thanks.
> David
>
> Jeff Hoover <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote:
>> FYI,
>>
>> I'm sitting with a six card system with MEcs on cards 1 and 2.
>> Surprisingly no problems and multipl ADATs on the MECs. I am using a
>> word clock even though it probably isn't necssary in this config.
>>
>> JH
>>
>> Aaron Allen wrote:
>>> Just FYI.. be also aware that adding a 2nd MEC will be fine sans external
>
>>> clock, but a 3rd will require you buy a word clock. Also, the 2nd MEC
> may
>>> want to live on EDS 2 or EDS 3. It's *generally* the last one, in your
> case
>>> #3, but not always.
>>> Make sure to use a quality word clock cable from the 1st MEC to the 2nd
> MEC.
>>> AA
>>>
>>>
>>> "David Feldman" <dfeldmania@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:4850b664$1@linux...
>>>
>>>> Thanks for explaining this to me guys. I kind of see the logic, but I
>
>>>> guess
>>>> I just took for granted that the hardware pairings would be more flexible,
>>>> and I never found anything specifically telling me differently. For my
>
>>>> situation
>>>> (3 EDS cards, one MEC), it just seems like a waste of space and hardware.
>>>> Oh well, I guess I'm dragging my spare MEC out of storage.
>>>> -David
>>>>
>>>> EK Sound <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Aaron is quite correct... only 4 cards "live" at one time. Why have
> 9
>>>>> slots? Choice. You could have 16 channels worth of analog I/O and 16
>>>>> channels worth of adat I/O for 8 cards, and the SMPTE card, which makes
>>>>> 9. This would give you the option of having all 16 I/O digital, or
>>>>> analog, or a mix.
>>>>>
>>>>> David.
>>>>>
>>>>> David Feldman wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not sure I understand.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In the itemized list in the patch bay on the right hand side, I only
> see
>>>>>> "Modules A" which only shows 16 ins and 16 outs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you mean to say that each MEC can only run up to two input and output
>>>>>> modules? If that's the case, then why in the world does the MEC have
>>>> 9 expansion
>>>>
>>>>>> slots? Am I going to have to run a whole extra 4-rack-unit MEC just
> to
>>>> use
>>>>
>>>>>> my extra modules? Or is there a more efficient workaround that I don't
>>>> know
>>>>
>>>>>> about here? Or am I misunderstanding this completely?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Somebody help explain this to me.
>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To clarify, you can only have 2 input and 2 output modules per MEC,
>
>>>>>>> giving
>>>>>>> you 16 ins and 16 outs for each Paris submixer.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> AA
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:484c87c8$1@linux...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> OOohhhh.. ok. This is a limit. You have to select which modules from
>>>> the
>>>>
>>>>>>>> itemized lists in the patch bay on the right hand side. Adat, no
>>>>>>>> matter
>>>>>>>> where in the MEC, will be the first default as I recall. I think this
>>>>>> has
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> to do with how Paris does it's hardware inventory. Make sure to scroll
>>>>>> on
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> that list, if they aren't there then you have a problem. If they are,
>>>>>> that
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> is normal Paris behaviour.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> AA
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "David Feldman" <dfeldmania@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:484c80cb$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for trying to help. Here is some more information that I
>
>>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>> included earlier. I am running Paris 3.0 on Windows ME with three
>>>> EDS
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> cards
>>>>>>>>> installed. My MEC is connected to the first EDS card and that's
> it.
>>>>>>>>> When
>>>>>>>>> I run Paris, only 16 ins and outs show up in the modules section
> of
>>>> the
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> patch
>>>>>>>>> bay. What do you think?
>>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> David,
>>>>>>>>>> In theory they should just show up in the modules section in
>>>>>>>>>> the patchbay. Does the Mec master module show up that these
>>>>>>>>>> new 8 in/outs are installed in?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> More info will help.
>>>>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Jeff Hoover" <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote in message =
>>>>>>>>>> news:484b6746@linux...
>>>>>>>>>> David,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What version of Paris and what OS? How many EDS cards? If more
>>>>>>>>>> than=20
>>>>>>>>>> one, what is connected to each?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Just need more info to help with troubleshooting.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> David Feldman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi there,
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm hoping that someone can point me in the right direction for
>>>> =
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> troubleshooting
>>>>>>>>>>> an installation problem. I've recently put a new 8-in an 8-out
>>>> card
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> into
>>>>>>>>>>> my MEC, and when I run Paris, they don't show up on the patch
> bay
>>>>>> =
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> and I can't
>>>>>>>>>>> seem to use them. I'm wondering if there are steps that I am
> =
>>>>>>>>>> missing here.
>>>>>>>>>>> I've looked in the manual and can't find any notes on installing
>>>>>> =
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> these things
>>>>>>>>>>> into an existing MEC. So I'm a little bit lost. Any help would
>>>>>> be
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> appreciated.
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>> Davi
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>>>>>>>>> <HTML><HEAD>
>>>>>>>>>> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>>>>>>>>>> charset=3Diso-8859-1">
>>>>>>>>>> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2900.2180" name=3DGENERATOR>
>>>>>>>>>> <STYLE></STYLE>
>>>>>>>>>> </HEAD>
>>>>>>>>>> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
>>>>>>>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>David,</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>>>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>In theory they should just show
> up
>>>> in
>>>>
>>>>>> =
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> the modules=20
>>>>>>>>>> section in</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>>>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the patchbay. Does the Mec master
>>>> =
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> module show=20
>>>>>>>>>> up that these</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>>>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>new 8 in/outs are installed =
>>>>>>>>>> in?</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>>>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>>>>>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>More info will help.</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>>>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>>>>>> <DIV> </DIV>
>>>>>>>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>>>>>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>>>>>>>> <BLOCKQUOTE=20
>>>>>>>>>> style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;
>>>> =
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>>>>>>>>>> <DIV>"Jeff Hoover" <<A=20
>>>>>>>>>> href=3D"mailto:jkhoover@excite.com">jkhoover@excite.com</A>> wrote
>>>>>> =
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> in message=20
>>>>>>>>>> <A=20
>>>>>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>>>> href=3D"news:484b6746@linux">news:484b6746@linux</A>...</DIV>David,<BR><B=
>>>>>>>>>> R>What=20
>>>>>>>>>> version of Paris and what OS? How many EDS cards? If more =
>>>>>>>>>> than=20
>>>>>>>>>> <BR>one, what is connected to each?<BR><BR>Just need more info
> to
>>>> help
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> with=20
>>>>>>>>>> troubleshooting.<BR><BR>Jeff<BR><BR>David Feldman wrote:<BR>> Hi=20
>>>>>>>>>> there,<BR>> I'm hoping that someone can point me in the right =
>>>>>>>>>> direction for=20
>>>>>>>>>> troubleshooting<BR>> an installation problem. I've recently =
>>>>>>>>>> put a new=20
>>>>>>>>>> 8-in an 8-out card into<BR>> my MEC, and when I run Paris, they
> =
>>>>>>>>>> don't show=20
>>>>>>>>>> up on the patch bay and I can't<BR>> seem to use them. I'm =
>>>>>>>>>> wondering=20
>>>>>>>>>> if there are steps that I am missing here.<BR>> I've looked =
>>>>>>>>>> in the=20
>>>>>>>>>> manual and can't find any notes on installing these things<BR>>
> =
>>>>>>>>>> into an=20
>>>>>>>>>> existing MEC. So I'm a little bit lost. Any help would be=20
>>>>>>>>>> appreciated.<BR>> Thanks,<BR>> Davi</BLOCKQUOTE>
>>>>>>>>>> <DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight
>
>>>>>>>>>> spam,
>>>>>> =
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> and=20
>>>>>>>>>> you?<BR><A=20
>>>>>>>>>> href=3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
>>>>>>>>>> .html</A> </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>
Re: installing 8-in & 8-out cards [message #99237 is a reply to message #99235] Fri, 13 June 2008 12:45 Go to previous message
rick is currently offline  rick   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1976
Registered: February 2006
Senior Member
+1 on 16 I/O no matter what the combo.

On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 11:35:26 -0600, EK Sound <ask_me@nospam.net>
wrote:

>No, you can not cross card boundaries with I/O. This means you can only
>record a maximum of 16 channels per MEC / Card / Submix combo at one
>time... regardless of the number of EDS cards you have, or I/O cards you
>have in your MEC.
>
>David.
>
>David Feldman wrote:
>> Here's a question. If I swapped out my third 8-in and 8-out cards with ADAT
>> cards, would I be able to run 24-track recording off of one MEC, patching
>> the extra inputs to the mixer module of one of my extra EDS cards. Does
>> this make sense? I'm interested to know if this is a potential work-around
>> for my situation. Those MECs sure do take up a lot of space.
>> Thanks.
>> David
>>
>> Jeff Hoover <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote:
>>> FYI,
>>>
>>> I'm sitting with a six card system with MEcs on cards 1 and 2.
>>> Surprisingly no problems and multipl ADATs on the MECs. I am using a
>>> word clock even though it probably isn't necssary in this config.
>>>
>>> JH
>>>
>>> Aaron Allen wrote:
>>>> Just FYI.. be also aware that adding a 2nd MEC will be fine sans external
>>
>>>> clock, but a 3rd will require you buy a word clock. Also, the 2nd MEC
>> may
>>>> want to live on EDS 2 or EDS 3. It's *generally* the last one, in your
>> case
>>>> #3, but not always.
>>>> Make sure to use a quality word clock cable from the 1st MEC to the 2nd
>> MEC.
>>>> AA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "David Feldman" <dfeldmania@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:4850b664$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for explaining this to me guys. I kind of see the logic, but I
>>
>>>>> guess
>>>>> I just took for granted that the hardware pairings would be more flexible,
>>>>> and I never found anything specifically telling me differently. For my
>>
>>>>> situation
>>>>> (3 EDS cards, one MEC), it just seems like a waste of space and hardware.
>>>>> Oh well, I guess I'm dragging my spare MEC out of storage.
>>>>> -David
>>>>>
>>>>> EK Sound <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Aaron is quite correct... only 4 cards "live" at one time. Why have
>> 9
>>>>>> slots? Choice. You could have 16 channels worth of analog I/O and 16
>>>>>> channels worth of adat I/O for 8 cards, and the SMPTE card, which makes
>>>>>> 9. This would give you the option of having all 16 I/O digital, or
>>>>>> analog, or a mix.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> David.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> David Feldman wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm not sure I understand.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In the itemized list in the patch bay on the right hand side, I only
>> see
>>>>>>> "Modules A" which only shows 16 ins and 16 outs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do you mean to say that each MEC can only run up to two input and output
>>>>>>> modules? If that's the case, then why in the world does the MEC have
>>>>> 9 expansion
>>>>>
>>>>>>> slots? Am I going to have to run a whole extra 4-rack-unit MEC just
>> to
>>>>> use
>>>>>
>>>>>>> my extra modules? Or is there a more efficient workaround that I don't
>>>>> know
>>>>>
>>>>>>> about here? Or am I misunderstanding this completely?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Somebody help explain this to me.
>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To clarify, you can only have 2 input and 2 output modules per MEC,
>>
>>>>>>>> giving
>>>>>>>> you 16 ins and 16 outs for each Paris submixer.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> AA
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:484c87c8$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> OOohhhh.. ok. This is a limit. You have to select which modules from
>>>>> the
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> itemized lists in the patch bay on the right hand side. Adat, no
>>>>>>>>> matter
>>>>>>>>> where in the MEC, will be the first default as I recall. I think this
>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> to do with how Paris does it's hardware inventory. Make sure to scroll
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> that list, if they aren't there then you have a problem. If they are,
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> is normal Paris behaviour.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> AA
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "David Feldman" <dfeldmania@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:484c80cb$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for trying to help. Here is some more information that I
>>
>>>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>> included earlier. I am running Paris 3.0 on Windows ME with three
>>>>> EDS
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> cards
>>>>>>>>>> installed. My MEC is connected to the first EDS card and that's
>> it.
>>>>>>>>>> When
>>>>>>>>>> I run Paris, only 16 ins and outs show up in the modules section
>> of
>>>>> the
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> patch
>>>>>>>>>> bay. What do you think?
>>>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> David,
>>>>>>>>>>> In theory they should just show up in the modules section in
>>>>>>>>>>> the patchbay. Does the Mec master module show up that these
>>>>>>>>>>> new 8 in/outs are installed in?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> More info will help.
>>>>>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Jeff Hoover" <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote in message =
>>>>>>>>>>> news:484b6746@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>> David,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> What version of Paris and what OS? How many EDS cards? If more
>>>>>>>>>>> than=20
>>>>>>>>>>> one, what is connected to each?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Just need more info to help with troubleshooting.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> David Feldman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi there,
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm hoping that someone can point me in the right direction for
>>>>> =
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> troubleshooting
>>>>>>>>>>>> an installation problem. I've recently put a new 8-in an 8-out
>>>>> card
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> into
>>>>>>>>>>>> my MEC, and when I run Paris, they don't show up on the patch
>> bay
>>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> and I can't
>>>>>>>>>>>> seem to use them. I'm wondering if there are steps that I am
>> =
>>>>>>>>>>> missing here.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I've looked in the manual and can't find any notes on installing
>>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> these things
>>>>>>>>>>>> into an existing MEC. So I'm a little bit lost. Any help would
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> appreciated.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Davi
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>>>>>>>>>> <HTML><HEAD>
>>>>>>>>>>> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>>>>>>>>>>> charset=3Diso-8859-1">
>>>>>>>>>>> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2900.2180" name=3DGENERATOR>
>>>>>>>>>>> <STYLE></STYLE>
>>>>>>>>>>> </HEAD>
>>>>>>>>>>> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
>>>>>>>>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>David,</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>>>>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>In theory they should just show
>> up
>>>>> in
>>>>>
>>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> the modules=20
>>>>>>>>>>> section in</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>>>>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the patchbay. Does the Mec master
>>>>> =
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> module show=20
>>>>>>>>>>> up that these</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>>>>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>new 8 in/outs are installed =
>>>>>>>>>>> in?</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>>>>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>>>>>>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>More info will help.</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>>>>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>>>>>>> <DIV> </DIV>
>>>>>>>>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>>>>>>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>>>>>>>>> <BLOCKQUOTE=20
>>>>>>>>>>> style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;
>>>>> =
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>>>>>>>>>>> <DIV>"Jeff Hoover" <<A=20
>>>>>>>>>>> href=3D"mailto:jkhoover@excite.com">jkhoover@excite.com</A>> wrote
>>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> in message=20
>>>>>>>>>>> <A=20
>>>>>>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>>>>> href=3D"news:484b6746@linux">news:484b6746@linux</A>...</DIV>David,<BR><B=
>>>>>>>>>>> R>What=20
>>>>>>>>>>> version of Paris and what OS? How many EDS cards? If more =
>>>>>>>>>>> than=20
>>>>>>>>>>> <BR>one, what is connected to each?<BR><BR>Just need more info
>> to
>>>>> help
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> with=20
>>>>>>>>>>> troubleshooting.<BR><BR>Jeff<BR><BR>David Feldman wrote:<BR>> Hi=20
>>>>>>>>>>> there,<BR>> I'm hoping that someone can point me in the right =
>>>>>>>>>>> direction for=20
>>>>>>>>>>> troubleshooting<BR>> an installation problem. I've recently =
>>>>>>>>>>> put a new=20
>>>>>>>>>>> 8-in an 8-out card into<BR>> my MEC, and when I run Paris, they
>> =
>>>>>>>>>>> don't show=20
>>>>>>>>>>> up on the patch bay and I can't<BR>> seem to use them. I'm =
>>>>>>>>>>> wondering=20
>>>>>>>>>>> if there are steps that I am missing here.<BR>> I've looked =
>>>>>>>>>>> in the=20
>>>>>>>>>>> manual and can't find any notes on installing these things<BR>>
>> =
>>>>>>>>>>> into an=20
>>>>>>>>>>> existing MEC. So I'm a little bit lost. Any help would be=20
>>>>>>>>>>> appreciated.<BR>> Thanks,<BR>> Davi</BLOCKQUOTE>
>>>>>>>>>>> <DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight
>>
>>>>>>>>>>> spam,
>>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> and=20
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