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| Re: OT: Who are all of the virtual vocal synthesis makers??? [message #69802 is a reply to message #69789] |
Fri, 30 June 2006 05:58   |
Neil
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"Dubya Mark Wilson" <mark.xspam@avidrecording.com> wrote:
>Compiling a big list to investigate. I never imagined it happening but
I've
>got a project that I think this is going to be the ticket since the client
>does't want the vox to sound totally legit and only partly "real."
>
>So Far, I've got "Cantor" and "Delay Lama." What else is out there?
Doesn't Yamaha make one? Or maybe they just had one in the
works... I can't recall the name of it and couldn't find it on
their website.
Also, there's "Voices of the Apocalypse"... you type in the
words & the software sings them back; as I understand it, your
MIDI track drives the pitch & phrasing, but I think this app is
only for Gigastudio.
Finally, I would definitely check the TC-Helicon VoiceLive
& equivalent rackmount unit (VoiceOne); I've used the VoiceLive
on a project recently where the guy wanted some thicker backups
that also sound vaguely choir-ish, and it worked out great!
Formant controls can set the 4 voices to sound like male or
female vox and variants thereof, and the pitch followers are
GREAT... very clean - you can choose scales for the backup
vocals or program it for unisions, whatever. Very clean & high-
quality, yet maybe synthetic enough for what you guy wants. Not
cheap though, $800-ish street for the VoiceLive, and about a
hundred bucks more for the rackmout version (which is strange,
because the VoiceLive is a floor mount with footswitches &
everything). Maybe if someone's got one in your area, you/he
could rent it from them?
Digitech also makes a couple of hardware units called the Vx400
(~$249 street), and the Vocal 300 (~$199 street); now I haven't
used either of these, but in the process of working on the
backup tracks I mentioned above, one of the guys mentioned the
Vocal 300, and that he'd messed around with it, and his comments
were that it did some of the same stuff, and had a few more
effects, but it wasn't nearly as clean/accurate as the TC box.
Considering these are both in the "couple hundred" range,
though, it might be worth checking out at your local Guitar
Center.
Neil
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| Re: OT: Who are all of the virtual vocal synthesis makers??? [message #69807 is a reply to message #69802] |
Fri, 30 June 2006 07:48 |
Deej [1]
Messages: 2149
Registered: January 2006
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Antares makes a plugin called AVox. I played around with it at a friend's
studio a while back.
http://www.antarestech.com/products/avox.shtml
Lots of flexibility with shaping, doubling, chorusing and the DeEsser may be
the best I've ever seen in software.
I was thinking of buying this but rather than providing them a crutch, I'd
rather demean, berate and belittle the artist who sucks in hopes of shaming
them into improving themselves.......plus it's fun to watch them squirm when
their own suckage is evedent during playback.
..
(damn.....I just turned 56 yesterday and I'm turning into a grumpy old
fart........I need coffee)
;oD
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:44a5200d$1@linux...
>
> "Dubya Mark Wilson" <mark.xspam@avidrecording.com> wrote:
> >Compiling a big list to investigate. I never imagined it happening but
> I've
> >got a project that I think this is going to be the ticket since the
client
>
> >does't want the vox to sound totally legit and only partly "real."
> >
> >So Far, I've got "Cantor" and "Delay Lama." What else is out there?
>
> Doesn't Yamaha make one? Or maybe they just had one in the
> works... I can't recall the name of it and couldn't find it on
> their website.
>
> Also, there's "Voices of the Apocalypse"... you type in the
> words & the software sings them back; as I understand it, your
> MIDI track drives the pitch & phrasing, but I think this app is
> only for Gigastudio.
>
> Finally, I would definitely check the TC-Helicon VoiceLive
> & equivalent rackmount unit (VoiceOne); I've used the VoiceLive
> on a project recently where the guy wanted some thicker backups
> that also sound vaguely choir-ish, and it worked out great!
> Formant controls can set the 4 voices to sound like male or
> female vox and variants thereof, and the pitch followers are
> GREAT... very clean - you can choose scales for the backup
> vocals or program it for unisions, whatever. Very clean & high-
> quality, yet maybe synthetic enough for what you guy wants. Not
> cheap though, $800-ish street for the VoiceLive, and about a
> hundred bucks more for the rackmout version (which is strange,
> because the VoiceLive is a floor mount with footswitches &
> everything). Maybe if someone's got one in your area, you/he
> could rent it from them?
>
> Digitech also makes a couple of hardware units called the Vx400
> (~$249 street), and the Vocal 300 (~$199 street); now I haven't
> used either of these, but in the process of working on the
> backup tracks I mentioned above, one of the guys mentioned the
> Vocal 300, and that he'd messed around with it, and his comments
> were that it did some of the same stuff, and had a few more
> effects, but it wasn't nearly as clean/accurate as the TC box.
> Considering these are both in the "couple hundred" range,
> though, it might be worth checking out at your local Guitar
> Center.
>
> Neil
>
>
>
>
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| Re: OT: Who are all of the virtual vocal synthesis makers??? [message #69830 is a reply to message #69802] |
Fri, 30 June 2006 17:34 |
Dubya Mark Wilson
Messages: 108
Registered: May 2006
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Yeah, Neil, that's partly why i posted here. I thought Yami did one but I
couldn't turn it up after repeated seaches all over the net. I seem to
recall someone posting here with links to audio examples. Anybody recall?
About 10, maybe 11 months ago...
W.
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:44a5200d$1@linux...
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> "Dubya Mark Wilson" <mark.xspam@avidrecording.com> wrote:
>>Compiling a big list to investigate. I never imagined it happening but
> I've
>>got a project that I think this is going to be the ticket since the client
>
>>does't want the vox to sound totally legit and only partly "real."
>>
>>So Far, I've got "Cantor" and "Delay Lama." What else is out there?
>
> Doesn't Yamaha make one? Or maybe they just had one in the
> works... I can't recall the name of it and couldn't find it on
> their website.
>
> Also, there's "Voices of the Apocalypse"... you type in the
> words & the software sings them back; as I understand it, your
> MIDI track drives the pitch & phrasing, but I think this app is
> only for Gigastudio.
>
> Finally, I would definitely check the TC-Helicon VoiceLive
> & equivalent rackmount unit (VoiceOne); I've used the VoiceLive
> on a project recently where the guy wanted some thicker backups
> that also sound vaguely choir-ish, and it worked out great!
> Formant controls can set the 4 voices to sound like male or
> female vox and variants thereof, and the pitch followers are
> GREAT... very clean - you can choose scales for the backup
> vocals or program it for unisions, whatever. Very clean & high-
> quality, yet maybe synthetic enough for what you guy wants. Not
> cheap though, $800-ish street for the VoiceLive, and about a
> hundred bucks more for the rackmout version (which is strange,
> because the VoiceLive is a floor mount with footswitches &
> everything). Maybe if someone's got one in your area, you/he
> could rent it from them?
>
> Digitech also makes a couple of hardware units called the Vx400
> (~$249 street), and the Vocal 300 (~$199 street); now I haven't
> used either of these, but in the process of working on the
> backup tracks I mentioned above, one of the guys mentioned the
> Vocal 300, and that he'd messed around with it, and his comments
> were that it did some of the same stuff, and had a few more
> effects, but it wasn't nearly as clean/accurate as the TC box.
> Considering these are both in the "couple hundred" range,
> though, it might be worth checking out at your local Guitar
> Center.
>
> Neil
>
>
>
>
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| Re: OT: Who are all of the virtual vocal synthesis makers??? [message #69847 is a reply to message #69830] |
Sat, 01 July 2006 06:56 |
Edna Sloan
Messages: 304
Registered: October 2005
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Yamaha has three versions of their Vocaloid: Miriam, Leon, and Lola.
"Dubya Mark Wilson" <mark.xspam@avidrecording.com> wrote in message
news:44a5c229@linux...
> Yeah, Neil, that's partly why i posted here. I thought Yami did one but I
> couldn't turn it up after repeated seaches all over the net. I seem to
> recall someone posting here with links to audio examples. Anybody recall?
> About 10, maybe 11 months ago...
>
> W.
>
> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:44a5200d$1@linux...
> >
> > "Dubya Mark Wilson" <mark.xspam@avidrecording.com> wrote:
> >>Compiling a big list to investigate. I never imagined it happening but
> > I've
> >>got a project that I think this is going to be the ticket since the
client
> >
> >>does't want the vox to sound totally legit and only partly "real."
> >>
> >>So Far, I've got "Cantor" and "Delay Lama." What else is out there?
> >
> > Doesn't Yamaha make one? Or maybe they just had one in the
> > works... I can't recall the name of it and couldn't find it on
> > their website.
> >
> > Also, there's "Voices of the Apocalypse"... you type in the
> > words & the software sings them back; as I understand it, your
> > MIDI track drives the pitch & phrasing, but I think this app is
> > only for Gigastudio.
> >
> > Finally, I would definitely check the TC-Helicon VoiceLive
> > & equivalent rackmount unit (VoiceOne); I've used the VoiceLive
> > on a project recently where the guy wanted some thicker backups
> > that also sound vaguely choir-ish, and it worked out great!
> > Formant controls can set the 4 voices to sound like male or
> > female vox and variants thereof, and the pitch followers are
> > GREAT... very clean - you can choose scales for the backup
> > vocals or program it for unisions, whatever. Very clean & high-
> > quality, yet maybe synthetic enough for what you guy wants. Not
> > cheap though, $800-ish street for the VoiceLive, and about a
> > hundred bucks more for the rackmout version (which is strange,
> > because the VoiceLive is a floor mount with footswitches &
> > everything). Maybe if someone's got one in your area, you/he
> > could rent it from them?
> >
> > Digitech also makes a couple of hardware units called the Vx400
> > (~$249 street), and the Vocal 300 (~$199 street); now I haven't
> > used either of these, but in the process of working on the
> > backup tracks I mentioned above, one of the guys mentioned the
> > Vocal 300, and that he'd messed around with it, and his comments
> > were that it did some of the same stuff, and had a few more
> > effects, but it wasn't nearly as clean/accurate as the TC box.
> > Considering these are both in the "couple hundred" range,
> > though, it might be worth checking out at your local Guitar
> > Center.
> >
> > Neil
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Re: OT: Who are all of the virtual vocal synthesis makers??? [message #69859 is a reply to message #69807] |
Sat, 01 July 2006 10:24 |
EK Sound
Messages: 939
Registered: June 2005
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Well... Happy B-Day Doug!
David.
DJ wrote:
> Antares makes a plugin called AVox. I played around with it at a friend's
> studio a while back.
>
> http://www.antarestech.com/products/avox.shtml
>
> Lots of flexibility with shaping, doubling, chorusing and the DeEsser may be
> the best I've ever seen in software.
>
> I was thinking of buying this but rather than providing them a crutch, I'd
> rather demean, berate and belittle the artist who sucks in hopes of shaming
> them into improving themselves.......plus it's fun to watch them squirm when
> their own suckage is evedent during playback.
> .
> (damn.....I just turned 56 yesterday and I'm turning into a grumpy old
> fart........I need coffee)
>
> ;oD
>
>
>
>
>
> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:44a5200d$1@linux...
>
>>"Dubya Mark Wilson" <mark.xspam@avidrecording.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Compiling a big list to investigate. I never imagined it happening but
>>
>>I've
>>
>>>got a project that I think this is going to be the ticket since the
>
> client
>
>>>does't want the vox to sound totally legit and only partly "real."
>>>
>>>So Far, I've got "Cantor" and "Delay Lama." What else is out there?
>>
>>Doesn't Yamaha make one? Or maybe they just had one in the
>>works... I can't recall the name of it and couldn't find it on
>>their website.
>>
>>Also, there's "Voices of the Apocalypse"... you type in the
>>words & the software sings them back; as I understand it, your
>>MIDI track drives the pitch & phrasing, but I think this app is
>>only for Gigastudio.
>>
>>Finally, I would definitely check the TC-Helicon VoiceLive
>>& equivalent rackmount unit (VoiceOne); I've used the VoiceLive
>>on a project recently where the guy wanted some thicker backups
>>that also sound vaguely choir-ish, and it worked out great!
>>Formant controls can set the 4 voices to sound like male or
>>female vox and variants thereof, and the pitch followers are
>>GREAT... very clean - you can choose scales for the backup
>>vocals or program it for unisions, whatever. Very clean & high-
>>quality, yet maybe synthetic enough for what you guy wants. Not
>>cheap though, $800-ish street for the VoiceLive, and about a
>>hundred bucks more for the rackmout version (which is strange,
>>because the VoiceLive is a floor mount with footswitches &
>>everything). Maybe if someone's got one in your area, you/he
>>could rent it from them?
>>
>>Digitech also makes a couple of hardware units called the Vx400
>>(~$249 street), and the Vocal 300 (~$199 street); now I haven't
>>used either of these, but in the process of working on the
>>backup tracks I mentioned above, one of the guys mentioned the
>>Vocal 300, and that he'd messed around with it, and his comments
>>were that it did some of the same stuff, and had a few more
>>effects, but it wasn't nearly as clean/accurate as the TC box.
>>Considering these are both in the "couple hundred" range,
>>though, it might be worth checking out at your local Guitar
>>Center.
>>
>>Neil
>>
>>
>>
>>
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