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| Re: Drums-When in doubt- lose the room mics [message #64051 is a reply to message #64049] |
Wed, 01 February 2006 08:45   |
Neil
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Hey Deej, what'd you use for the room mics? Another thing I've
noticed is that using SDC's as opposed to LDC's seems to work
better (at least IMO) for room mics. Just wondering what you
went with.
I guess I do things backwards, compared to a lot of people, with
regard to overheads vs. room mics - I've seen plenty of folks
using SDC's for overheads & LDC's for room mics - personally, I
like the imaging you get from LDC's as overheads, and the - I
guess "smoother" (since a better descriptive term fails me at
the moment - less prone to picking up flutter, boominess, things
like that), and less-focused characteristics of SDC's for room
mics.
Neil
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>Yes. I'm stillmixing the project. Liking things better without the room
>mics......much less smeared.
>
>;o)
>
>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>news:43df87af$1@linux...
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>> DJ, are these the songs I heard?
>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>> >It sure can tighten things up in a mix.
>> >
>> >
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| Re: Drums-When in doubt- lose the room mics [message #64068 is a reply to message #64051] |
Wed, 01 February 2006 12:57 |
Deej [1]
Messages: 2149
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We used AT 4060's on OH's and some kind of Sony SDC mics for the room. These
mics belonged to Ed Stasium and I wasn't familiar with these Sony mics. They
are old, no longer manufactured and run on a very expensive and hard to find
battery. Bought him some of these batteries for his trouble. I had to order
them out of some place in Chicago.
I'll probably be talking to him in the next couple of days. I'll ask about
the mic. It's got a lot of *brightness* to it.
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:43e0d788$1@linux...
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> Hey Deej, what'd you use for the room mics? Another thing I've
> noticed is that using SDC's as opposed to LDC's seems to work
> better (at least IMO) for room mics. Just wondering what you
> went with.
>
> I guess I do things backwards, compared to a lot of people, with
> regard to overheads vs. room mics - I've seen plenty of folks
> using SDC's for overheads & LDC's for room mics - personally, I
> like the imaging you get from LDC's as overheads, and the - I
> guess "smoother" (since a better descriptive term fails me at
> the moment - less prone to picking up flutter, boominess, things
> like that), and less-focused characteristics of SDC's for room
> mics.
>
> Neil
>
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >Yes. I'm stillmixing the project. Liking things better without the room
> >mics......much less smeared.
> >
> >;o)
> >
> >"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
> >news:43df87af$1@linux...
> >>
> >> DJ, are these the songs I heard?
> >> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >> >It sure can tighten things up in a mix.
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
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| Re: Drums-When in doubt- lose the room mics [message #64070 is a reply to message #64068] |
Wed, 01 February 2006 14:52 |
Neil
Messages: 1645
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The Sony's - are they those ones with the sorta rectangular or oblong-ish
windscreen?
Neil
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>We used AT 4060's on OH's and some kind of Sony SDC mics for the room. These
>mics belonged to Ed Stasium and I wasn't familiar with these Sony mics.
They
>are old, no longer manufactured and run on a very expensive and hard to
find
>battery. Bought him some of these batteries for his trouble. I had to order
>them out of some place in Chicago.
>
>I'll probably be talking to him in the next couple of days. I'll ask about
>the mic. It's got a lot of *brightness* to it.
>
>
>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:43e0d788$1@linux...
>>
>> Hey Deej, what'd you use for the room mics? Another thing I've
>> noticed is that using SDC's as opposed to LDC's seems to work
>> better (at least IMO) for room mics. Just wondering what you
>> went with.
>>
>> I guess I do things backwards, compared to a lot of people, with
>> regard to overheads vs. room mics - I've seen plenty of folks
>> using SDC's for overheads & LDC's for room mics - personally, I
>> like the imaging you get from LDC's as overheads, and the - I
>> guess "smoother" (since a better descriptive term fails me at
>> the moment - less prone to picking up flutter, boominess, things
>> like that), and less-focused characteristics of SDC's for room
>> mics.
>>
>> Neil
>>
>>
>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>> >Yes. I'm stillmixing the project. Liking things better without the room
>> >mics......much less smeared.
>> >
>> >;o)
>> >
>> >"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>> >news:43df87af$1@linux...
>> >>
>> >> DJ, are these the songs I heard?
>> >> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>> >> >It sure can tighten things up in a mix.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >
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| Re: Drums-When in doubt- lose the room mics [message #64075 is a reply to message #64070] |
Wed, 01 February 2006 16:42 |
Deej [1]
Messages: 2149
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Nope. They were about the size and shape of an AGK C460B, but they were
metallic (silverish) colored IIRC.
"Neil" <OIUIU@IOU.com> wrote in message news:43e12d94@linux...
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> The Sony's - are they those ones with the sorta rectangular or oblong-ish
> windscreen?
>
> Neil
>
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >We used AT 4060's on OH's and some kind of Sony SDC mics for the room.
These
> >mics belonged to Ed Stasium and I wasn't familiar with these Sony mics.
> They
> >are old, no longer manufactured and run on a very expensive and hard to
> find
> >battery. Bought him some of these batteries for his trouble. I had to
order
> >them out of some place in Chicago.
> >
> >I'll probably be talking to him in the next couple of days. I'll ask
about
> >the mic. It's got a lot of *brightness* to it.
> >
> >
> >"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:43e0d788$1@linux...
> >>
> >> Hey Deej, what'd you use for the room mics? Another thing I've
> >> noticed is that using SDC's as opposed to LDC's seems to work
> >> better (at least IMO) for room mics. Just wondering what you
> >> went with.
> >>
> >> I guess I do things backwards, compared to a lot of people, with
> >> regard to overheads vs. room mics - I've seen plenty of folks
> >> using SDC's for overheads & LDC's for room mics - personally, I
> >> like the imaging you get from LDC's as overheads, and the - I
> >> guess "smoother" (since a better descriptive term fails me at
> >> the moment - less prone to picking up flutter, boominess, things
> >> like that), and less-focused characteristics of SDC's for room
> >> mics.
> >>
> >> Neil
> >>
> >>
> >> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >> >Yes. I'm stillmixing the project. Liking things better without the
room
> >> >mics......much less smeared.
> >> >
> >> >;o)
> >> >
> >> >"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
> >> >news:43df87af$1@linux...
> >> >>
> >> >> DJ, are these the songs I heard?
> >> >> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >> >> >It sure can tighten things up in a mix.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
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| Re: Drums-When in doubt- lose the room mics [message #64078 is a reply to message #64075] |
Wed, 01 February 2006 18:06 |
Neil
Messages: 1645
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Hmm, never seen those - interesting.
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>Nope. They were about the size and shape of an AGK C460B, but they were
>metallic (silverish) colored IIRC.
>
>
>"Neil" <OIUIU@IOU.com> wrote in message news:43e12d94@linux...
>>
>> The Sony's - are they those ones with the sorta rectangular or oblong-ish
>> windscreen?
>>
>> Neil
>>
>>
>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>> >We used AT 4060's on OH's and some kind of Sony SDC mics for the room.
>These
>> >mics belonged to Ed Stasium and I wasn't familiar with these Sony mics.
>> They
>> >are old, no longer manufactured and run on a very expensive and hard
to
>> find
>> >battery. Bought him some of these batteries for his trouble. I had to
>order
>> >them out of some place in Chicago.
>> >
>> >I'll probably be talking to him in the next couple of days. I'll ask
>about
>> >the mic. It's got a lot of *brightness* to it.
>> >
>> >
>> >"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:43e0d788$1@linux...
>> >>
>> >> Hey Deej, what'd you use for the room mics? Another thing I've
>> >> noticed is that using SDC's as opposed to LDC's seems to work
>> >> better (at least IMO) for room mics. Just wondering what you
>> >> went with.
>> >>
>> >> I guess I do things backwards, compared to a lot of people, with
>> >> regard to overheads vs. room mics - I've seen plenty of folks
>> >> using SDC's for overheads & LDC's for room mics - personally, I
>> >> like the imaging you get from LDC's as overheads, and the - I
>> >> guess "smoother" (since a better descriptive term fails me at
>> >> the moment - less prone to picking up flutter, boominess, things
>> >> like that), and less-focused characteristics of SDC's for room
>> >> mics.
>> >>
>> >> Neil
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>> >> >Yes. I'm stillmixing the project. Liking things better without the
>room
>> >> >mics......much less smeared.
>> >> >
>> >> >;o)
>> >> >
>> >> >"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>> >> >news:43df87af$1@linux...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> DJ, are these the songs I heard?
>> >> >> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>> >> >> >It sure can tighten things up in a mix.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >
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| Re: Drums-When in doubt- lose the room mics [message #64097 is a reply to message #64078] |
Thu, 02 February 2006 07:43 |
"Kris" .
Messages: 27
Registered: June 2006
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Sony ECM series perhaps?
Kris
"Neil" <OIUIOU@OIU.com> wrote:
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>Hmm, never seen those - interesting.
>
>
>
>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>Nope. They were about the size and shape of an AGK C460B, but they were
>>metallic (silverish) colored IIRC.
>>
>>
>>"Neil" <OIUIU@IOU.com> wrote in message news:43e12d94@linux...
>>>
>>> The Sony's - are they those ones with the sorta rectangular or oblong-ish
>>> windscreen?
>>>
>>> Neil
>>>
>>>
>>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>> >We used AT 4060's on OH's and some kind of Sony SDC mics for the room.
>>These
>>> >mics belonged to Ed Stasium and I wasn't familiar with these Sony mics.
>>> They
>>> >are old, no longer manufactured and run on a very expensive and hard
>to
>>> find
>>> >battery. Bought him some of these batteries for his trouble. I had to
>>order
>>> >them out of some place in Chicago.
>>> >
>>> >I'll probably be talking to him in the next couple of days. I'll ask
>>about
>>> >the mic. It's got a lot of *brightness* to it.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:43e0d788$1@linux...
>>> >>
>>> >> Hey Deej, what'd you use for the room mics? Another thing I've
>>> >> noticed is that using SDC's as opposed to LDC's seems to work
>>> >> better (at least IMO) for room mics. Just wondering what you
>>> >> went with.
>>> >>
>>> >> I guess I do things backwards, compared to a lot of people, with
>>> >> regard to overheads vs. room mics - I've seen plenty of folks
>>> >> using SDC's for overheads & LDC's for room mics - personally, I
>>> >> like the imaging you get from LDC's as overheads, and the - I
>>> >> guess "smoother" (since a better descriptive term fails me at
>>> >> the moment - less prone to picking up flutter, boominess, things
>>> >> like that), and less-focused characteristics of SDC's for room
>>> >> mics.
>>> >>
>>> >> Neil
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>> >> >Yes. I'm stillmixing the project. Liking things better without the
>>room
>>> >> >mics......much less smeared.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >;o)
>>> >> >
>>> >> >"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>>> >> >news:43df87af$1@linux...
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> DJ, are these the songs I heard?
>>> >> >> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>> >> >> >It sure can tighten things up in a mix.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>
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| Re: Drums-When in doubt- lose the room mics [message #64150 is a reply to message #64139] |
Fri, 03 February 2006 19:02 |
cujo
Messages: 285
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Wow, do you record a variety of drummers?
"brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
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>I seem to always end up with 80-90% OH's and 10-20% spot.
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>"Kris" . wrote:
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>>I like to bring in the room mics in sparse sections of the tune (maybe
verse,
>>or bridge), and drop them out for the fuller sections like choruses.
>>
>>Another option is to gate them keyed to the snare mic...gives a believable
>>snare ambience, but doesn't muddy up the toms and kick.
>>
>>Cheers,
>>
>>Kris
>>
>>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>>It sure can tighten things up in a mix.
>>>
>>>
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