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| Hey, I think I'll be a singer ! [message #73827] |
Wed, 11 October 2006 04:14  |
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John [1]
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Well, I'm sure you guys have experienced this before. Someone says to you,
"Let's record this song". You say "Ok, whose gonna sing it". They say
"Oh, hell, I can sing it". So you start recording and they are totally off
pitch and apparently don't even know what a melody is technically. So you
do take after take and you start singing them the melody hoping they will
get it but alas "THEY DON'T" and instead they do take after take never getting
close to the melody of the vocal part and not even understanding the direction
they need to be going.
It turns out some people can't freaking sing even though they have unbending
intent.
Know what I'm saying????
Discuss !!
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| Re: Hey, I think I'll be a singer ! [message #73832 is a reply to message #73829] |
Wed, 11 October 2006 09:10  |
emarenot
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Or then there's the ones that start out with a less than tuneful voice,
that, over time, develop into a real soulful singer. My buddy was like
that. Couldn't really stay on key too well. With some time this improved,
and as it did it was like his heart openned up too. It got to the point
where he sang over 50% of the tunes each night. But I hear you John, some
folks just don't get that they just (respectfully) can't get it.
Cheers, MR
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:452cdb92$1@linux...
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> ...and then there are others who can sing really well, but you have to
fight
> tooth and nail to actually get them to perform because they're too shy.
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> But at least those ones don't bug you to record them... ;o)
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> Cheers,
> Kim.
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> "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
> >
> >Well, I'm sure you guys have experienced this before. Someone says to
you,
> > "Let's record this song". You say "Ok, whose gonna sing it". They say
> >"Oh, hell, I can sing it". So you start recording and they are totally
> off
> >pitch and apparently don't even know what a melody is technically. So
you
> >do take after take and you start singing them the melody hoping they will
> >get it but alas "THEY DON'T" and instead they do take after take never
getting
> >close to the melody of the vocal part and not even understanding the
direction
> >they need to be going.
> >
> >It turns out some people can't freaking sing even though they have
unbending
> >intent.
> >
> >Know what I'm saying????
> >
> >Discuss !!
>
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| Re: Hey, I think I'll be a singer ! [message #73835 is a reply to message #73827] |
Wed, 11 October 2006 06:23 |
neil[1]
Messages: 164
Registered: October 2006
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"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>It turns out some people can't freaking sing even though they
have unbending intent.
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>Know what I'm saying????
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>Discuss !!
What I find most interesting about this kind of situation is
that plenty of musicians seem to think that singing is
something anyone can do, regardless of if they practice it or
not. Granted, most people can carry a rudimentary tune at the
very least, and some are even naturally-gifted singers (I
recorded a young guy recently - he was 16 or 17, I can't
remember which age his mom told me at the time - and he'd never
had lessons, except for like two sessions with a vocal coach
not long before he came to record... big kid, reminded me of
Ruben Studdard in appearance; really good singer, natural
talent, and just about perfect pitch (missed like one note in
his warm-up take & zero notes in his "going for it" take of the
one song he wanted to record); anyway, it amazes me that lots
of musicians don't view the voice as an instrument. Just like
going down to the store & buying a guitar or a violin doesn't
make you a guitar player or a violinist, being born with the
ability to make noises with your mouth doesn't automatically
make you a singer.
The same musicians that may have spent months acheiving just a
few basic rudiments, and years perfecting other techniques on
their own instrument can sometimes think that someone should
just be able to step in front of a mic & emote with the best of
them.
I guess a few lucky ones can - just as there is that rare
instrumental prodigy who can do the same - but for the most
part, singing requires some woodshedding, too.
Let's put it this way... although we've all heard of musical
prodigies, how many instances has anyone heard of where someone
is in a recording studio & just picks up a complex instrument
totally unfamiliar to them & nails a great take (no, I'm not
talking about a bass player doing a cowbell track - the voice
is a complex instrument). Anyone ever hear of this sort of
thing happening? If so, I'm sure it's the rare exception & not
the norm.
Why should the voice be any different?
Neil
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| Re: Hey, I think I'll be a singer ! [message #73840 is a reply to message #73832] |
Wed, 11 October 2006 08:14 |
rick
Messages: 1976
Registered: February 2006
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the first time my granddaughter heard herself she fell to the floor
repeating the phrase "i suck, i really suck and i'm never going to
sing again". this from a 9 year old...oy... once i got her to stop
trying to be one of the blond princesses of pop and sing in her own
style she sucked a whole lot less though she still needs a bit of
work.
On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 09:10:26 -0700, "Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>Or then there's the ones that start out with a less than tuneful voice,
>that, over time, develop into a real soulful singer. My buddy was like
>that. Couldn't really stay on key too well. With some time this improved,
>and as it did it was like his heart openned up too. It got to the point
>where he sang over 50% of the tunes each night. But I hear you John, some
>folks just don't get that they just (respectfully) can't get it.
>Cheers, MR
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:452cdb92$1@linux...
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>> ...and then there are others who can sing really well, but you have to
>fight
>> tooth and nail to actually get them to perform because they're too shy.
>>
>> But at least those ones don't bug you to record them... ;o)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kim.
>>
>>
>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >Well, I'm sure you guys have experienced this before. Someone says to
>you,
>> > "Let's record this song". You say "Ok, whose gonna sing it". They say
>> >"Oh, hell, I can sing it". So you start recording and they are totally
>> off
>> >pitch and apparently don't even know what a melody is technically. So
>you
>> >do take after take and you start singing them the melody hoping they will
>> >get it but alas "THEY DON'T" and instead they do take after take never
>getting
>> >close to the melody of the vocal part and not even understanding the
>direction
>> >they need to be going.
>> >
>> >It turns out some people can't freaking sing even though they have
>unbending
>> >intent.
>> >
>> >Know what I'm saying????
>> >
>> >Discuss !!
>>
>
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