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Re: OT: An interesting paradox - Islam and the Pope [message #72550 is a reply to message #72539] Sun, 17 September 2006 05:55 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
Deej [1] is currently offline  Deej [1]   FRANCE
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> Almost all of our allies are abandoning >us, or at the least distancing
themselves from us.

This started long before 9-11. France, Russia , China and the UN were
working against us throughout the 90's. We just didn't have a clue because
we didn't have an intelligence service.

"gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:450d0128$1@linux...
>
> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Gene, maybe I am misunderstanding what you are saying, but it sounds like
> >you are saying that Bush is starting and wants a religious war. I think
> >you may be confused. Other people have already started the religious
> war.
> > Look in to the sixth and seventh pillar of Islam, some where in there it
> >speaks of living by the sword. In other words, if you don't convert, you
> >are to die. I for one do not believe they are civil or peaceful people.
> > There has not been peace among those people for thousands of years, and
> >now THEY have sucked us in.
> >
> >They would be nothing in the middle east, but the Communists, Russia and
> >China, supplied all these third world countries with tons of weapons!
Now
> >they can make bombs and wage war. Now they know how to make nuclear
bombs
> >that can take out US cities. Look at the middle east, south America,
North
> >Korea and the mess all across the continent of Africa. Evil people gave
> >more evil people weapons to fight wars with. This has created a world
problem,
> >and the Communist want to keep supplying them with weapons and
technology.
> > I know, here comes the liberals with, we gave them weapons too. Think
> about
> >it, where did this start?
> >
> >I'm no fan of Bush, but it's just too easy, and unfair to say it's all
Bush's
> >fault.
> >
> > I will say however, the War in Iraq was completely mishandled. Just do
> >the math, one hundred and fifty thousand troops to take care of thirty
five
> >million people plus, and thousands of miles of open boarder, in a place
> >the size of California. With five million troops, maybe??? I believe
Bush
> >and his friends wanted to be there for years and make all kinds of money
> >on this war. He has created a bigger problem by not taking care of Iraq
> >quickly. There is a lot of blame to go around in our federal government,
> >it's not just one man.
> >
> >As far as the war on terror, people should be honest with themselves. you
> >can't negotiate a war. there is no diplomatic solution to a war. If you
> >stop to talk, they reinforce, rebuild, and reorganize for more war. Or
> did
> >we forget the lessons of the past.
> >
> >In the end, bombs can never stop idealism. The problem is the people
that
> >want Jehad will not stop. Peace will never be lasting with these people,
> >it's in their nature to be waring. They think they will be rewarded if
> they
> >kill and die in the name of Islam. So how do you fix it?
> >
> > We are more concerned with terrorist rights than doing the job we need
> to
> >do. When they hit us, we'll have to take them out, make no mistake, it's
> >going to get serious. When they kill millions of americans, blame the
spineless
> >politicians that wanted to talk things out and find political solutions
> instead
> >of facing the hard truth, we are at WAR. We should take care of the
problems
> >now, but we are just too weak as a nation. Really think about why we
are
> >weak as a nation, and where the blame should go.
> >
> >James
> >
>
>
> James,
> You have just as much right to your opinion as I do and I know we won't
change
> each other's minds one iota, but I still have to question you about this
> statement:
>
> "We should take care of the problems now, but we are just too weak as a
nation."
>
> Please help me define what the problem is. Is it Muslims? Just some
Muslims?
> Which ones?
>
> What about North Korea? They are not Muslims, but they are first (or
perhaps
> second) on the list of "most likely to do bad things" to us - Big bad bomb
> things. Pakistan is Muslim and they have several bombs. They have just
signed
> a treaty with the Taliban, and they are hiding the real person that caused
> 9/11, where is the outrage against Osama bin Laden and the people
protecting
> him?
>
> How about the Non-Aligned Movement. Over 100 countries banding together
> against US policies and interests? - Should we get them all? Should we
start
> with Cuba or Venezuela?
>
> Now that we have succeeded in alienating ourselves from the majority of
the
> world, should we see them all as threats? Almost all of our allies are
abandoning
> us, or at the least distancing themselves from us. The only real leader
left
> is on our side is Tony Blair, and he has been summarily dismissed by his
> own party. With him out and anti-American sentiment running high in Great
> Britain, who do we have left?
>
> I never said it was all Bushes fault. He just took a relatively unheard of
> small time international criminal/terrorist (Osama bin Laden) and turned
> him into an international movement to destroy the US.
> _____________________________
>
> At a level of 1.2 billion, Muslims represent about 22% of the world's
population.
> They are the second largest religion in the world. Only Christianity is
larger,
> with 33% of the world's inhabitants.
> Islam is growing about 2.9% per year. This is faster than the total world
> population which increases about 2.3% annually. It is thus attracting a
progressively
> larger percentage of the world's population.
>
> Peace to all
> Gene
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