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Mixing blindfolded [message #98699] |
Fri, 09 May 2008 19:36 |
Deej [5]
Messages: 373 Registered: March 2008
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I've been developing a bit of tinnitus. It's really aggravating. I'm in the
middle of a remix and new tracking project. I've been doing some research
on this condition and it can be partly due to stress......something I've
had more than my share of recently.
Anyway, I'm going to an audiologist soon and will be doing what I can to
start trying to mitigate this but in the meantime, I'm still trying to get
some "things audio" accomplished.
Here's a mix that "I think" is close. Any commntes, critiques, references
to appropriate areas of suckage, etc. would be much appreciated.
http://www.mediafire.com/?segcml022dz
.......and BTW, I apologize for this not having anything at all to do with
politics
;O)
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Re: Mixing blindfolded [message #98702 is a reply to message #98699] |
Fri, 09 May 2008 20:27 |
Aaron Allen
Messages: 1988 Registered: May 2008
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There's somethin' funky on the bass that's making it warble a bit, and just
a bit too much in the finger/mid sound.... sounds like a compression issue.
Possibly attack/release timing, too much X:1 or threshold... not sure what's
going on there exactly. It may be a bit too loud also, however temper that
with some new compression settings. Vocal is too low in volume overall.
Snare isn't quite as snappy as I personally like, might be too washed in
verb (seems kinda 'soft' in the mix like too much room/not enough dry).
Reminds me of a Dan Fogelberg vibe, nice.
AA
"Deej" <noway@jose.net> wrote in message news:48250a37$1@linux...
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> I've been developing a bit of tinnitus. It's really aggravating. I'm in
> the
> middle of a remix and new tracking project. I've been doing some research
> on this condition and it can be partly due to stress......something I've
> had more than my share of recently.
>
> Anyway, I'm going to an audiologist soon and will be doing what I can to
> start trying to mitigate this but in the meantime, I'm still trying to get
> some "things audio" accomplished.
>
> Here's a mix that "I think" is close. Any commntes, critiques, references
> to appropriate areas of suckage, etc. would be much appreciated.
>
> http://www.mediafire.com/?segcml022dz
>
> ......and BTW, I apologize for this not having anything at all to do with
> politics
>
> ;O)
>
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Re: Mixing blindfolded [message #98713 is a reply to message #98699] |
Sat, 10 May 2008 07:05 |
Ted Gerber
Messages: 705 Registered: January 2009
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Hi Deej-
The only thing I would say is the main vox could have a bit more
focus. I think I would like to hear it a bit thicker - more
of the lower mids, similar to the fiddle. Doing this might
mean adjusting the fiddle of course, which I like as is. I
don't mind the fiddle's levels bouncing a bit, seems to fit
the feel of this music, more live and immediate. This is all
taste, of course.
More people than you know have tinnitus. An audiologist friend
explained it as the brain substituting signal that it thinks
should be there that isn't. He successfully treats it with a
listening regimen lasting many weeks of decreasing levels of
white noise while sleeping.
Ted
"Deej" <noway@jose.net> wrote:
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>I've been developing a bit of tinnitus. It's really aggravating. I'm in
the
>middle of a remix and new tracking project. I've been doing some research
>on this condition and it can be partly due to stress......something I've
>had more than my share of recently.
>
>Anyway, I'm going to an audiologist soon and will be doing what I can to
>start trying to mitigate this but in the meantime, I'm still trying to get
>some "things audio" accomplished.
>
>Here's a mix that "I think" is close. Any commntes, critiques, references
>to appropriate areas of suckage, etc. would be much appreciated.
>
>http://www.mediafire.com/?segcml022dz
>
>......and BTW, I apologize for this not having anything at all to do with
>politics
>
>;O)
>
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Re: Mixing blindfolded [message #98714 is a reply to message #98702] |
Sat, 10 May 2008 07:37 |
Deej [5]
Messages: 373 Registered: March 2008
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"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>There's somethin' funky on the bass that's making it warble a bit, and just
>a bit too much in the finger/mid sound.... sounds like a compression issue.
>Possibly attack/release timing, too much X:1 or threshold... not sure what's
>going on there exactly. It may be a bit too loud also, however temper that
>with some new compression settings. Vocal is too low in volume overall.
>Snare isn't quite as snappy as I personally like, might be too washed in
>verb (seems kinda 'soft' in the mix like too much room/not enough dry).
>Reminds me of a Dan Fogelberg vibe, nice.
>
>AA
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>"Deej" <noway@jose.net> wrote in message news:48250a37$1@linux...
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>> I've been developing a bit of tinnitus. It's really aggravating. I'm in
>> the
>> middle of a remix and new tracking project. I've been doing some research
>> on this condition and it can be partly due to stress......something I've
>> had more than my share of recently.
>>
>> Anyway, I'm going to an audiologist soon and will be doing what I can
to
>> start trying to mitigate this but in the meantime, I'm still trying to
get
>> some "things audio" accomplished.
>>
>> Here's a mix that "I think" is close. Any commntes, critiques, references
>> to appropriate areas of suckage, etc. would be much appreciated.
>>
>> http://www.mediafire.com/?segcml022dz
>>
>> ......and BTW, I apologize for this not having anything at all to do with
>> politics
>>
>> ;O)
>>
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>
Thanks for the critique. It's very interesting thayt you minetion fogelberg
as I was listening to the Fogelberg Home Free
CD prior to mixing this.
;o)
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Re: Mixing blindfolded [message #98717 is a reply to message #98699] |
Sat, 10 May 2008 11:20 |
Bill L
Messages: 766 Registered: August 2006
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Deej, I have tinnitus and have for many years. I have a couple tricks.
Once you have the frequencies and dbs you are losing identified by the
audiologist, you can set up an EQ on the output of Cubase that you can
switch on for mixing. Use a really transparent EQ, duh. For an instant
treble boost, cup your hands behind your ears, catching more of the high
freq content. This is not accurate by any means but it can help a little
to hear a shaker or hihat better.
Next, stop listening really loud and use cans when you are around drums
or loud amps. I seem to have noticed that when I eat a lot of sugar it
gets worse. That is probably the candida kicking in.
Deej wrote:
> I've been developing a bit of tinnitus. It's really aggravating. I'm in the
> middle of a remix and new tracking project. I've been doing some research
> on this condition and it can be partly due to stress......something I've
> had more than my share of recently.
>
> Anyway, I'm going to an audiologist soon and will be doing what I can to
> start trying to mitigate this but in the meantime, I'm still trying to get
> some "things audio" accomplished.
>
> Here's a mix that "I think" is close. Any commntes, critiques, references
> to appropriate areas of suckage, etc. would be much appreciated.
>
> http://www.mediafire.com/?segcml022dz
>
> ......and BTW, I apologize for this not having anything at all to do with
> politics
>
> ;O)
>
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Re: Mixing blindfolded [message #98728 is a reply to message #98713] |
Sat, 10 May 2008 20:06 |
Bill L
Messages: 766 Registered: August 2006
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Ted, can you tell me the audiologist's name?
Ted Gerber wrote:
> Hi Deej-
>
> The only thing I would say is the main vox could have a bit more
> focus. I think I would like to hear it a bit thicker - more
> of the lower mids, similar to the fiddle. Doing this might
> mean adjusting the fiddle of course, which I like as is. I
> don't mind the fiddle's levels bouncing a bit, seems to fit
> the feel of this music, more live and immediate. This is all
> taste, of course.
>
> More people than you know have tinnitus. An audiologist friend
> explained it as the brain substituting signal that it thinks
> should be there that isn't. He successfully treats it with a
> listening regimen lasting many weeks of decreasing levels of
> white noise while sleeping.
>
> Ted
>
>
> "Deej" <noway@jose.net> wrote:
>> I've been developing a bit of tinnitus. It's really aggravating. I'm in
> the
>> middle of a remix and new tracking project. I've been doing some research
>> on this condition and it can be partly due to stress......something I've
>> had more than my share of recently.
>>
>> Anyway, I'm going to an audiologist soon and will be doing what I can to
>> start trying to mitigate this but in the meantime, I'm still trying to get
>> some "things audio" accomplished.
>>
>> Here's a mix that "I think" is close. Any commntes, critiques, references
>> to appropriate areas of suckage, etc. would be much appreciated.
>>
>> http://www.mediafire.com/?segcml022dz
>>
>> ......and BTW, I apologize for this not having anything at all to do with
>> politics
>>
>> ;O)
>>
>
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Re: Mixing blindfolded [message #99154 is a reply to message #98699] |
Mon, 09 June 2008 19:43 |
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Hey Deej - I was doing some research into the ESP chip, and as it happens,
John Dattorro (one of the original creators of the ESP chip in PARIS, and
from the looks of his achievements a mind-boggling digital audio genius
whose bio I'll get up on the Wiki ASAP) has some interesting things to say
about tinnitus. Don't know if it will help, but as soon as I stumbled across
it I wanted to post it here ASAP.
http://www.stanford.edu/~dattorro/Tin/tin.html
- Kerry
On 5/9/08 7:36 PM, in article 48250a37$1@linux, "Deej" <noway@jose.net>
wrote:
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> I've been developing a bit of tinnitus. It's really aggravating. I'm in the
> middle of a remix and new tracking project. I've been doing some research
> on this condition and it can be partly due to stress......something I've
> had more than my share of recently.
>
> Anyway, I'm going to an audiologist soon and will be doing what I can to
> start trying to mitigate this but in the meantime, I'm still trying to get
> some "things audio" accomplished.
>
> Here's a mix that "I think" is close. Any commntes, critiques, references
> to appropriate areas of suckage, etc. would be much appreciated.
>
> http://www.mediafire.com/?segcml022dz
>
> ......and BTW, I apologize for this not having anything at all to do with
>
> politics
>
> ;O)
>
"... being bitter is like swallowing poison and waiting for the other guy to die..." - anon
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