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| Drum editing tips needed [message #72156] |
Thu, 07 September 2006 17:18  |
Dan
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Hi folks,
Somewhat unfortunately, I've got some serious tidying up of drum tracks to
do. It's driving me nuts! (Anyone who wants an edit job / drummers with studios
looking to record could try propositioning me!).
I've got drums recorded across 12 channels, but much of the playing needs
"quantising", ideally around a groove (i.e. the grove when he gets it right;
or just reprogramming it from scratch). I'm a bit clueless when it comes
to the possibilities offered in cubase / recycle, but presumable this would
be the way forward, rather than trying to do it all by hand in Paris. Problem
with recycle, as far as I understand it, it that it works on mono, maybe
even stereo, files, but not 12 at once.
Hot tips greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Dan
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| Re: Drum editing tips needed [message #72157 is a reply to message #72156] |
Thu, 07 September 2006 18:11  |
gene lennon
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"dan b" <daniel_burne@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote:
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>Hi folks,
>Somewhat unfortunately, I've got some serious tidying up of drum tracks
to
>do. It's driving me nuts! (Anyone who wants an edit job / drummers with
studios
>looking to record could try propositioning me!).
>I've got drums recorded across 12 channels, but much of the playing needs
>"quantising", ideally around a groove (i.e. the grove when he gets it right;
>or just reprogramming it from scratch). I'm a bit clueless when it comes
>to the possibilities offered in cubase / recycle, but presumable this would
>be the way forward, rather than trying to do it all by hand in Paris. Problem
>with recycle, as far as I understand it, it that it works on mono, maybe
>even stereo, files, but not 12 at once.
>
>Hot tips greatly appreciated.
>Thanks,
>Dan
You are correct about Recycle, it will not work across 12 tracks. I suggest
you move the wave files to Pro Tools and do this with Beat Detective (not
the LE version which only works on two tracks.) You should be able to find
many Pro Tools users who will take this on.
It is much easier if it was recorded to a grid. Saying you want to quantize
to section of the song he did well, will only work if the tempo is exactly
the same throughout the track. This is unlikely if his playing was that sloppy.
Beat Detective will allow you to extract an averaged tempo map out of the
performance and quantize to that, but it may still speed up and slow down.
It can also extract a “groove” from a well-played section and quantize using
the groove on top of the generated tempo map.
If its just a matter of a few late kick or snare hits, I would do it in Paris,
but be sure to cut and move all 12 tracks simultaneously. If you need do
advanced surgery, Beat Detective is the best tool for the job.
gene
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| Re: Drum editing tips needed [message #72159 is a reply to message #72157] |
Thu, 07 September 2006 19:12 |
Carl Amburn
Messages: 214
Registered: July 2005
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Or - how about have them perform the song the way it's supposed to sound?
Sorry, I couldn't help myself. !! Even when clients joke to me about stuff
like this, my immediate response is "What's your budget?". Ba dum tshhhh.
And, here's one of the two jokes that I consistantly remember.....it's a
one-liner....
"So many drummers, so little time."
best of luck Dan,
-Carl
"gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:4500c355$1@linux...
>
> "dan b" <daniel_burne@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >Hi folks,
> >Somewhat unfortunately, I've got some serious tidying up of drum tracks
> to
> >do. It's driving me nuts! (Anyone who wants an edit job / drummers with
> studios
> >looking to record could try propositioning me!).
> >I've got drums recorded across 12 channels, but much of the playing needs
> >"quantising", ideally around a groove (i.e. the grove when he gets it
right;
> >or just reprogramming it from scratch). I'm a bit clueless when it comes
> >to the possibilities offered in cubase / recycle, but presumable this
would
> >be the way forward, rather than trying to do it all by hand in Paris.
Problem
> >with recycle, as far as I understand it, it that it works on mono, maybe
> >even stereo, files, but not 12 at once.
> >
> >Hot tips greatly appreciated.
> >Thanks,
> >Dan
>
>
> You are correct about Recycle, it will not work across 12 tracks. I
suggest
> you move the wave files to Pro Tools and do this with Beat Detective (not
> the LE version which only works on two tracks.) You should be able to find
> many Pro Tools users who will take this on.
> It is much easier if it was recorded to a grid. Saying you want to
quantize
> to section of the song he did well, will only work if the tempo is exactly
> the same throughout the track. This is unlikely if his playing was that
sloppy.
> Beat Detective will allow you to extract an averaged tempo map out of the
> performance and quantize to that, but it may still speed up and slow down.
> It can also extract a "groove" from a well-played section and quantize
using
> the groove on top of the generated tempo map.
> If its just a matter of a few late kick or snare hits, I would do it in
Paris,
> but be sure to cut and move all 12 tracks simultaneously. If you need do
> advanced surgery, Beat Detective is the best tool for the job.
> gene
>
>
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| Re: Drum editing tips needed [message #72160 is a reply to message #72156] |
Thu, 07 September 2006 22:06 |
Chris Ludwig
Messages: 868
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HI ,
REcycle is pretty much a dead app at this point.
All the major audio apps now Cubase/Nuendo, Sonar, Ableton, Pro Tools,
Samplitude all offer audio quantizing on one of more tracks at a time.
Chris
dan b wrote:
> Hi folks,
> Somewhat unfortunately, I've got some serious tidying up of drum tracks to
> do. It's driving me nuts! (Anyone who wants an edit job / drummers with studios
> looking to record could try propositioning me!).
> I've got drums recorded across 12 channels, but much of the playing needs
> "quantising", ideally around a groove (i.e. the grove when he gets it right;
> or just reprogramming it from scratch). I'm a bit clueless when it comes
> to the possibilities offered in cubase / recycle, but presumable this would
> be the way forward, rather than trying to do it all by hand in Paris. Problem
> with recycle, as far as I understand it, it that it works on mono, maybe
> even stereo, files, but not 12 at once.
>
> Hot tips greatly appreciated.
> Thanks,
> Dan
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK
chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
(859) 635-5762
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| Re: Drum editing tips needed [message #72163 is a reply to message #72160] |
Fri, 08 September 2006 02:46 |
Don Nafe
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I only charge $0.10 per edit per track...work is guranteed...and by the
sounds of it I'll be able to retire after this edit job
;-)
Don
"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
news:4500f89a$1@linux...
> HI ,
> REcycle is pretty much a dead app at this point.
> All the major audio apps now Cubase/Nuendo, Sonar, Ableton, Pro Tools,
> Samplitude all offer audio quantizing on one of more tracks at a time.
>
>
> Chris
>
>
> dan b wrote:
>> Hi folks, Somewhat unfortunately, I've got some serious tidying up of
>> drum tracks to
>> do. It's driving me nuts! (Anyone who wants an edit job / drummers with
>> studios
>> looking to record could try propositioning me!). I've got drums recorded
>> across 12 channels, but much of the playing needs
>> "quantising", ideally around a groove (i.e. the grove when he gets it
>> right;
>> or just reprogramming it from scratch). I'm a bit clueless when it comes
>> to the possibilities offered in cubase / recycle, but presumable this
>> would
>> be the way forward, rather than trying to do it all by hand in Paris.
>> Problem
>> with recycle, as far as I understand it, it that it works on mono, maybe
>> even stereo, files, but not 12 at once. Hot tips greatly appreciated.
>> Thanks, Dan
>
> --
> Chris Ludwig
> ADK
> chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
> www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
> (859) 635-5762
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| Re: Drum editing tips needed [message #72172 is a reply to message #72163] |
Fri, 08 September 2006 10:58 |
rick
Messages: 1976
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is that $0.10 canadian or american?
On Fri, 8 Sep 2006 05:46:58 -0400, "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>I only charge $0.10 per edit per track...work is guranteed...and by the
>sounds of it I'll be able to retire after this edit job
>
>;-)
>
>Don
>
>
>
>
>"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
>news:4500f89a$1@linux...
>> HI ,
>> REcycle is pretty much a dead app at this point.
>> All the major audio apps now Cubase/Nuendo, Sonar, Ableton, Pro Tools,
>> Samplitude all offer audio quantizing on one of more tracks at a time.
>>
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>> dan b wrote:
>>> Hi folks, Somewhat unfortunately, I've got some serious tidying up of
>>> drum tracks to
>>> do. It's driving me nuts! (Anyone who wants an edit job / drummers with
>>> studios
>>> looking to record could try propositioning me!). I've got drums recorded
>>> across 12 channels, but much of the playing needs
>>> "quantising", ideally around a groove (i.e. the grove when he gets it
>>> right;
>>> or just reprogramming it from scratch). I'm a bit clueless when it comes
>>> to the possibilities offered in cubase / recycle, but presumable this
>>> would
>>> be the way forward, rather than trying to do it all by hand in Paris.
>>> Problem
>>> with recycle, as far as I understand it, it that it works on mono, maybe
>>> even stereo, files, but not 12 at once. Hot tips greatly appreciated.
>>> Thanks, Dan
>>
>> --
>> Chris Ludwig
>> ADK
>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>> www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>> (859) 635-5762
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| Re: Drum editing tips needed [message #72177 is a reply to message #72172] |
Fri, 08 September 2006 14:43 |
Don Nafe
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either or...I'll still be able to retire
heehehehehehe
Don
"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3pb3g29d2cdo0iul0mr581m8r04eeeto8m@4ax.com...
> is that $0.10 canadian or american?
>
> On Fri, 8 Sep 2006 05:46:58 -0400, "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>
>>I only charge $0.10 per edit per track...work is guranteed...and by the
>>sounds of it I'll be able to retire after this edit job
>>
>>;-)
>>
>>Don
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
>>news:4500f89a$1@linux...
>>> HI ,
>>> REcycle is pretty much a dead app at this point.
>>> All the major audio apps now Cubase/Nuendo, Sonar, Ableton, Pro Tools,
>>> Samplitude all offer audio quantizing on one of more tracks at a time.
>>>
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>>
>>> dan b wrote:
>>>> Hi folks, Somewhat unfortunately, I've got some serious tidying up of
>>>> drum tracks to
>>>> do. It's driving me nuts! (Anyone who wants an edit job / drummers with
>>>> studios
>>>> looking to record could try propositioning me!). I've got drums
>>>> recorded
>>>> across 12 channels, but much of the playing needs
>>>> "quantising", ideally around a groove (i.e. the grove when he gets it
>>>> right;
>>>> or just reprogramming it from scratch). I'm a bit clueless when it
>>>> comes
>>>> to the possibilities offered in cubase / recycle, but presumable this
>>>> would
>>>> be the way forward, rather than trying to do it all by hand in Paris.
>>>> Problem
>>>> with recycle, as far as I understand it, it that it works on mono,
>>>> maybe
>>>> even stereo, files, but not 12 at once. Hot tips greatly appreciated.
>>>> Thanks, Dan
>>>
>>> --
>>> Chris Ludwig
>>> ADK
>>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>>> www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>>> (859) 635-5762
>>
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| Re: Drum editing tips needed [message #72178 is a reply to message #72177] |
Fri, 08 September 2006 15:37 |
Deej [1]
Messages: 2149
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Hey.......someone was trying to pimp you in another thread.......that would
probably be more fun.
"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:4501e253$1@linux...
> either or...I'll still be able to retire
>
> heehehehehehe
>
> Don
>
>
> "rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3pb3g29d2cdo0iul0mr581m8r04eeeto8m@4ax.com...
> > is that $0.10 canadian or american?
> >
> > On Fri, 8 Sep 2006 05:46:58 -0400, "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
> >
> >>I only charge $0.10 per edit per track...work is guranteed...and by the
> >>sounds of it I'll be able to retire after this edit job
> >>
> >>;-)
> >>
> >>Don
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
> >>news:4500f89a$1@linux...
> >>> HI ,
> >>> REcycle is pretty much a dead app at this point.
> >>> All the major audio apps now Cubase/Nuendo, Sonar, Ableton, Pro Tools,
> >>> Samplitude all offer audio quantizing on one of more tracks at a time.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Chris
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> dan b wrote:
> >>>> Hi folks, Somewhat unfortunately, I've got some serious tidying up of
> >>>> drum tracks to
> >>>> do. It's driving me nuts! (Anyone who wants an edit job / drummers
with
> >>>> studios
> >>>> looking to record could try propositioning me!). I've got drums
> >>>> recorded
> >>>> across 12 channels, but much of the playing needs
> >>>> "quantising", ideally around a groove (i.e. the grove when he gets it
> >>>> right;
> >>>> or just reprogramming it from scratch). I'm a bit clueless when it
> >>>> comes
> >>>> to the possibilities offered in cubase / recycle, but presumable this
> >>>> would
> >>>> be the way forward, rather than trying to do it all by hand in Paris.
> >>>> Problem
> >>>> with recycle, as far as I understand it, it that it works on mono,
> >>>> maybe
> >>>> even stereo, files, but not 12 at once. Hot tips greatly appreciated.
> >>>> Thanks, Dan
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Chris Ludwig
> >>> ADK
> >>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
> >>> www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
> >>> (859) 635-5762
> >>
> >
>
>
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| Re: Drum editing tips needed [message #72179 is a reply to message #72178] |
Fri, 08 September 2006 15:37 |
Deej [1]
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.......OOPS!!!......sorry, they were trying to *ping* you............my bad.
;oP
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:4501f0f0@linux...
> Hey.......someone was trying to pimp you in another thread.......that
would
> probably be more fun.
>
>
> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:4501e253$1@linux...
> > either or...I'll still be able to retire
> >
> > heehehehehehe
> >
> > Don
> >
> >
> > "rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:3pb3g29d2cdo0iul0mr581m8r04eeeto8m@4ax.com...
> > > is that $0.10 canadian or american?
> > >
> > > On Fri, 8 Sep 2006 05:46:58 -0400, "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
> > >
> > >>I only charge $0.10 per edit per track...work is guranteed...and by
the
> > >>sounds of it I'll be able to retire after this edit job
> > >>
> > >>;-)
> > >>
> > >>Don
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
> > >>news:4500f89a$1@linux...
> > >>> HI ,
> > >>> REcycle is pretty much a dead app at this point.
> > >>> All the major audio apps now Cubase/Nuendo, Sonar, Ableton, Pro
Tools,
> > >>> Samplitude all offer audio quantizing on one of more tracks at a
time.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Chris
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> dan b wrote:
> > >>>> Hi folks, Somewhat unfortunately, I've got some serious tidying up
of
> > >>>> drum tracks to
> > >>>> do. It's driving me nuts! (Anyone who wants an edit job / drummers
> with
> > >>>> studios
> > >>>> looking to record could try propositioning me!). I've got drums
> > >>>> recorded
> > >>>> across 12 channels, but much of the playing needs
> > >>>> "quantising", ideally around a groove (i.e. the grove when he gets
it
> > >>>> right;
> > >>>> or just reprogramming it from scratch). I'm a bit clueless when it
> > >>>> comes
> > >>>> to the possibilities offered in cubase / recycle, but presumable
this
> > >>>> would
> > >>>> be the way forward, rather than trying to do it all by hand in
Paris.
> > >>>> Problem
> > >>>> with recycle, as far as I understand it, it that it works on mono,
> > >>>> maybe
> > >>>> even stereo, files, but not 12 at once. Hot tips greatly
appreciated.
> > >>>> Thanks, Dan
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>> Chris Ludwig
> > >>> ADK
> > >>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
> > >>> www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
> > >>> (859) 635-5762
> > >>
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Re: Drum editing tips needed [message #72180 is a reply to message #72179] |
Fri, 08 September 2006 15:39 |
Deej [1]
Messages: 2149
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Damn!!!!.......and it wasn't even you.......it was Jef Knight.........
sheesh.......I'm glad it's Friday (whatever difference that makes)
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:4501f127@linux...
> ......OOPS!!!......sorry, they were trying to *ping* you............my
bad.
>
> ;oP
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> news:4501f0f0@linux...
> > Hey.......someone was trying to pimp you in another thread.......that
> would
> > probably be more fun.
> >
> >
> > "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:4501e253$1@linux...
> > > either or...I'll still be able to retire
> > >
> > > heehehehehehe
> > >
> > > Don
> > >
> > >
> > > "rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:3pb3g29d2cdo0iul0mr581m8r04eeeto8m@4ax.com...
> > > > is that $0.10 canadian or american?
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, 8 Sep 2006 05:46:58 -0400, "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca>
wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>I only charge $0.10 per edit per track...work is guranteed...and by
> the
> > > >>sounds of it I'll be able to retire after this edit job
> > > >>
> > > >>;-)
> > > >>
> > > >>Don
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
> > > >>news:4500f89a$1@linux...
> > > >>> HI ,
> > > >>> REcycle is pretty much a dead app at this point.
> > > >>> All the major audio apps now Cubase/Nuendo, Sonar, Ableton, Pro
> Tools,
> > > >>> Samplitude all offer audio quantizing on one of more tracks at a
> time.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Chris
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> dan b wrote:
> > > >>>> Hi folks, Somewhat unfortunately, I've got some serious tidying
up
> of
> > > >>>> drum tracks to
> > > >>>> do. It's driving me nuts! (Anyone who wants an edit job /
drummers
> > with
> > > >>>> studios
> > > >>>> looking to record could try propositioning me!). I've got drums
> > > >>>> recorded
> > > >>>> across 12 channels, but much of the playing needs
> > > >>>> "quantising", ideally around a groove (i.e. the grove when he
gets
> it
> > > >>>> right;
> > > >>>> or just reprogramming it from scratch). I'm a bit clueless when
it
> > > >>>> comes
> > > >>>> to the possibilities offered in cubase / recycle, but presumable
> this
> > > >>>> would
> > > >>>> be the way forward, rather than trying to do it all by hand in
> Paris.
> > > >>>> Problem
> > > >>>> with recycle, as far as I understand it, it that it works on
mono,
> > > >>>> maybe
> > > >>>> even stereo, files, but not 12 at once. Hot tips greatly
> appreciated.
> > > >>>> Thanks, Dan
> > > >>>
> > > >>> --
> > > >>> Chris Ludwig
> > > >>> ADK
> > > >>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
> > > >>> www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
> > > >>> (859) 635-5762
> > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Re: Drum editing tips needed [message #72182 is a reply to message #72180] |
Fri, 08 September 2006 16:32 |
Don Nafe
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Morning Deej
heehehehehehe
D
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:4501f178@linux...
> Damn!!!!.......and it wasn't even you.......it was Jef Knight.........
> sheesh.......I'm glad it's Friday (whatever difference that makes)
>
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> news:4501f127@linux...
>> ......OOPS!!!......sorry, they were trying to *ping* you............my
> bad.
>>
>> ;oP
>>
>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>> news:4501f0f0@linux...
>> > Hey.......someone was trying to pimp you in another thread.......that
>> would
>> > probably be more fun.
>> >
>> >
>> > "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:4501e253$1@linux...
>> > > either or...I'll still be able to retire
>> > >
>> > > heehehehehehe
>> > >
>> > > Don
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > "rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> > > news:3pb3g29d2cdo0iul0mr581m8r04eeeto8m@4ax.com...
>> > > > is that $0.10 canadian or american?
>> > > >
>> > > > On Fri, 8 Sep 2006 05:46:58 -0400, "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca>
> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > >>I only charge $0.10 per edit per track...work is guranteed...and by
>> the
>> > > >>sounds of it I'll be able to retire after this edit job
>> > > >>
>> > > >>;-)
>> > > >>
>> > > >>Don
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >>"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
>> > > >>news:4500f89a$1@linux...
>> > > >>> HI ,
>> > > >>> REcycle is pretty much a dead app at this point.
>> > > >>> All the major audio apps now Cubase/Nuendo, Sonar, Ableton, Pro
>> Tools,
>> > > >>> Samplitude all offer audio quantizing on one of more tracks at a
>> time.
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> Chris
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> dan b wrote:
>> > > >>>> Hi folks, Somewhat unfortunately, I've got some serious tidying
> up
>> of
>> > > >>>> drum tracks to
>> > > >>>> do. It's driving me nuts! (Anyone who wants an edit job /
> drummers
>> > with
>> > > >>>> studios
>> > > >>>> looking to record could try propositioning me!). I've got drums
>> > > >>>> recorded
>> > > >>>> across 12 channels, but much of the playing needs
>> > > >>>> "quantising", ideally around a groove (i.e. the grove when he
> gets
>> it
>> > > >>>> right;
>> > > >>>> or just reprogramming it from scratch). I'm a bit clueless when
> it
>> > > >>>> comes
>> > > >>>> to the possibilities offered in cubase / recycle, but presumable
>> this
>> > > >>>> would
>> > > >>>> be the way forward, rather than trying to do it all by hand in
>> Paris.
>> > > >>>> Problem
>> > > >>>> with recycle, as far as I understand it, it that it works on
> mono,
>> > > >>>> maybe
>> > > >>>> even stereo, files, but not 12 at once. Hot tips greatly
>> appreciated.
>> > > >>>> Thanks, Dan
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> --
>> > > >>> Chris Ludwig
>> > > >>> ADK
>> > > >>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>> > > >>> www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>> > > >>> (859) 635-5762
>> > > >>
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
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| Re: Drum editing tips needed [message #72183 is a reply to message #72182] |
Fri, 08 September 2006 16:32 |
Deej [1]
Messages: 2149
Registered: January 2006
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:O}........... I have been putting in an average of 70 hours a week over
the last month in my day job. Things should ease up a bit by the middle of
November, but the next 10 days are going to be very intense. I'll be
dropping in here from time to time to bitch and whine.
"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:4501fbda@linux...
> Morning Deej
>
> heehehehehehe
>
> D
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> news:4501f178@linux...
> > Damn!!!!.......and it wasn't even you.......it was Jef Knight.........
> > sheesh.......I'm glad it's Friday (whatever difference that makes)
> >
> >
> > "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> > news:4501f127@linux...
> >> ......OOPS!!!......sorry, they were trying to *ping* you............my
> > bad.
> >>
> >> ;oP
> >>
> >> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> >> news:4501f0f0@linux...
> >> > Hey.......someone was trying to pimp you in another thread.......that
> >> would
> >> > probably be more fun.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:4501e253$1@linux...
> >> > > either or...I'll still be able to retire
> >> > >
> >> > > heehehehehehe
> >> > >
> >> > > Don
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > "rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> > > news:3pb3g29d2cdo0iul0mr581m8r04eeeto8m@4ax.com...
> >> > > > is that $0.10 canadian or american?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On Fri, 8 Sep 2006 05:46:58 -0400, "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca>
> > wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > >>I only charge $0.10 per edit per track...work is guranteed...and
by
> >> the
> >> > > >>sounds of it I'll be able to retire after this edit job
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>;-)
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>Don
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
> >> > > >>news:4500f89a$1@linux...
> >> > > >>> HI ,
> >> > > >>> REcycle is pretty much a dead app at this point.
> >> > > >>> All the major audio apps now Cubase/Nuendo, Sonar, Ableton, Pro
> >> Tools,
> >> > > >>> Samplitude all offer audio quantizing on one of more tracks at
a
> >> time.
> >> > > >>>
> >> > > >>>
> >> > > >>> Chris
> >> > > >>>
> >> > > >>>
> >> > > >>> dan b wrote:
> >> > > >>>> Hi folks, Somewhat unfortunately, I've got some serious
tidying
> > up
> >> of
> >> > > >>>> drum tracks to
> >> > > >>>> do. It's driving me nuts! (Anyone who wants an edit job /
> > drummers
> >> > with
> >> > > >>>> studios
> >> > > >>>> looking to record could try propositioning me!). I've got
drums
> >> > > >>>> recorded
> >> > > >>>> across 12 channels, but much of the playing needs
> >> > > >>>> "quantising", ideally around a groove (i.e. the grove when he
> > gets
> >> it
> >> > > >>>> right;
> >> > > >>>> or just reprogramming it from scratch). I'm a bit clueless
when
> > it
> >> > > >>>> comes
> >> > > >>>> to the possibilities offered in cubase / recycle, but
presumable
> >> this
> >> > > >>>> would
> >> > > >>>> be the way forward, rather than trying to do it all by hand in
> >> Paris.
> >> > > >>>> Problem
> >> > > >>>> with recycle, as far as I understand it, it that it works on
> > mono,
> >> > > >>>> maybe
> >> > > >>>> even stereo, files, but not 12 at once. Hot tips greatly
> >> appreciated.
> >> > > >>>> Thanks, Dan
> >> > > >>>
> >> > > >>> --
> >> > > >>> Chris Ludwig
> >> > > >>> ADK
> >> > > >>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
> >> > > >>> www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
> >> > > >>> (859) 635-5762
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
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| Re: Drum editing tips needed [message #72184 is a reply to message #72183] |
Fri, 08 September 2006 17:01 |
Don Nafe
Messages: 1206
Registered: July 2005
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Senior Member |
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Looking forward to it
Don
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:4501fe0c@linux...
> :O}........... I have been putting in an average of 70 hours a week over
> the last month in my day job. Things should ease up a bit by the middle of
> November, but the next 10 days are going to be very intense. I'll be
> dropping in here from time to time to bitch and whine.
>
>
> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:4501fbda@linux...
>> Morning Deej
>>
>> heehehehehehe
>>
>> D
>>
>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>> news:4501f178@linux...
>> > Damn!!!!.......and it wasn't even you.......it was Jef Knight.........
>> > sheesh.......I'm glad it's Friday (whatever difference that makes)
>> >
>> >
>> > "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>> > news:4501f127@linux...
>> >> ......OOPS!!!......sorry, they were trying to *ping* you............my
>> > bad.
>> >>
>> >> ;oP
>> >>
>> >> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>> >> news:4501f0f0@linux...
>> >> > Hey.......someone was trying to pimp you in another
>> >> > thread.......that
>> >> would
>> >> > probably be more fun.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message
>> >> > news:4501e253$1@linux...
>> >> > > either or...I'll still be able to retire
>> >> > >
>> >> > > heehehehehehe
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Don
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > "rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> >> > > news:3pb3g29d2cdo0iul0mr581m8r04eeeto8m@4ax.com...
>> >> > > > is that $0.10 canadian or american?
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > On Fri, 8 Sep 2006 05:46:58 -0400, "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca>
>> > wrote:
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >>I only charge $0.10 per edit per track...work is guranteed...and
> by
>> >> the
>> >> > > >>sounds of it I'll be able to retire after this edit job
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >>;-)
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >>Don
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >>"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
>> >> > > >>news:4500f89a$1@linux...
>> >> > > >>> HI ,
>> >> > > >>> REcycle is pretty much a dead app at this point.
>> >> > > >>> All the major audio apps now Cubase/Nuendo, Sonar, Ableton,
>> >> > > >>> Pro
>> >> Tools,
>> >> > > >>> Samplitude all offer audio quantizing on one of more tracks at
> a
>> >> time.
>> >> > > >>>
>> >> > > >>>
>> >> > > >>> Chris
>> >> > > >>>
>> >> > > >>>
>> >> > > >>> dan b wrote:
>> >> > > >>>> Hi folks, Somewhat unfortunately, I've got some serious
> tidying
>> > up
>> >> of
>> >> > > >>>> drum tracks to
>> >> > > >>>> do. It's driving me nuts! (Anyone who wants an edit job /
>> > drummers
>> >> > with
>> >> > > >>>> studios
>> >> > > >>>> looking to record could try propositioning me!). I've got
> drums
>> >> > > >>>> recorded
>> >> > > >>>> across 12 channels, but much of the playing needs
>> >> > > >>>> "quantising", ideally around a groove (i.e. the grove when he
>> > gets
>> >> it
>> >> > > >>>> right;
>> >> > > >>>> or just reprogramming it from scratch). I'm a bit clueless
> when
>> > it
>> >> > > >>>> comes
>> >> > > >>>> to the possibilities offered in cubase / recycle, but
> presumable
>> >> this
>> >> > > >>>> would
>> >> > > >>>> be the way forward, rather than trying to do it all by hand
>> >> > > >>>> in
>> >> Paris.
>> >> > > >>>> Problem
>> >> > > >>>> with recycle, as far as I understand it, it that it works on
>> > mono,
>> >> > > >>>> maybe
>> >> > > >>>> even stereo, files, but not 12 at once. Hot tips greatly
>> >> appreciated.
>> >> > > >>>> Thanks, Dan
>> >> > > >>>
>> >> > > >>> --
>> >> > > >>> Chris Ludwig
>> >> > > >>> ADK
>> >> > > >>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>> >> > > >>> www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>> >> > > >>> (859) 635-5762
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
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| Re: Drum editing tips needed (Cubase SX) [message #72318 is a reply to message #72172] |
Wed, 13 September 2006 07:35 |
Dan B
Messages: 54
Registered: June 2005
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Member |
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Thanks for the replies.
The way I see it, my options are:
1) Outsource this to someone. That'd certainly be a relief, though the disadvantage
would be I wouldn't learn how to do it myself. Presumably export to protools
(omf/omv?) function in Paris would help here (I've never used it), and then
someone could get to work on Beat Mapper.
2) I have Cubase SX but rarely use it, certainly not for anything this clever!
Any ideas how the audio quantise (ideally to a predefined groove rather than
a precise click) works?
(BTW, all the drums were recorded to a click; the playings just a bit off.
I know, get a new drummer...!)
Thanks for any tips,
Dan
rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>is that $0.10 canadian or american?
>
>On Fri, 8 Sep 2006 05:46:58 -0400, "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>
>>I only charge $0.10 per edit per track...work is guranteed...and by the
>>sounds of it I'll be able to retire after this edit job
>>
>>;-)
>>
>>Don
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
>>news:4500f89a$1@linux...
>>> HI ,
>>> REcycle is pretty much a dead app at this point.
>>> All the major audio apps now Cubase/Nuendo, Sonar, Ableton, Pro Tools,
>>> Samplitude all offer audio quantizing on one of more tracks at a time.
>>>
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>>
>>> dan b wrote:
>>>> Hi folks, Somewhat unfortunately, I've got some serious tidying up of
>>>> drum tracks to
>>>> do. It's driving me nuts! (Anyone who wants an edit job / drummers with
>>>> studios
>>>> looking to record could try propositioning me!). I've got drums recorded
>>>> across 12 channels, but much of the playing needs
>>>> "quantising", ideally around a groove (i.e. the grove when he gets it
>>>> right;
>>>> or just reprogramming it from scratch). I'm a bit clueless when it comes
>>>> to the possibilities offered in cubase / recycle, but presumable this
>>>> would
>>>> be the way forward, rather than trying to do it all by hand in Paris.
>>>> Problem
>>>> with recycle, as far as I understand it, it that it works on mono, maybe
>>>> even stereo, files, but not 12 at once. Hot tips greatly appreciated.
>>>> Thanks, Dan
>>>
>>> --
>>> Chris Ludwig
>>> ADK
>>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>>> www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>>> (859) 635-5762
>>
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