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| Important adat sync questions for Dave et al [message #66160] |
Wed, 05 April 2006 08:37  |
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jef knight[1]
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Hey guys,
Well, it's been two freakin' years since I started getting sick and it
wasn't until Nov that they figured it out 'cuz I didn't have the one
main symptom that they look for...sheesh..dr's...
LSS...I'm back to health and feelin' great....downside - I've had to put
many things, including my music/studio endevours, on hold. Now that I'm
back to normal I can begin again where I left off.
So where I left off was getting Nuendo (in comp 2) to slave to Paris (
comp 1) via paris adat card and digi9652 card.
I have the settings and p-bay in Paris set correctly, I'm pretty sure,
'cuz when I hit paris/play, the digi9652 control panel indicates that
the sync is working and the time begins to roll in comp 2.
But Nuendo doesn't start. I've set it up the way I think it should go,
having done syncing (LTC) in Cubase for years, but I'm doing something
horrible wrong I suspect. Word clock is also connected. So I'm not sure
what's happening to make Nuendo not respond to the incoming 9-pin signal.
Does the paris/digi setup allow me to use APP or regular adat sync (that
I'm in the dark about and assume it uses the optical conections, yes?
Dunno. Am I even using the correct way of going about syncing? What do I
need/need-to-know to make these two comps dance?
I'd sure appreciate some help getting back up and running. : )
jef
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| Re: Important adat sync questions for Dave et al [message #66163 is a reply to message #66160] |
Wed, 05 April 2006 08:44  |
jef knight[1]
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BTW...I won't be able to check replys until later on today.
peace
jef knight wrote:
> Hey guys,
>
> Well, it's been two freakin' years since I started getting sick and it
> wasn't until Nov that they figured it out 'cuz I didn't have the one
> main symptom that they look for...sheesh..dr's...
> LSS...I'm back to health and feelin' great....downside - I've had to
> put many things, including my music/studio endevours, on hold. Now
> that I'm back to normal I can begin again where I left off.
>
> So where I left off was getting Nuendo (in comp 2) to slave to Paris (
> comp 1) via paris adat card and digi9652 card.
>
> I have the settings and p-bay in Paris set correctly, I'm pretty sure,
> 'cuz when I hit paris/play, the digi9652 control panel indicates that
> the sync is working and the time begins to roll in comp 2.
>
> But Nuendo doesn't start. I've set it up the way I think it should go,
> having done syncing (LTC) in Cubase for years, but I'm doing something
> horrible wrong I suspect. Word clock is also connected. So I'm not
> sure what's happening to make Nuendo not respond to the incoming 9-pin
> signal.
>
> Does the paris/digi setup allow me to use APP or regular adat sync
> (that I'm in the dark about and assume it uses the optical conections,
> yes? Dunno. Am I even using the correct way of going about syncing?
> What do I need/need-to-know to make these two comps dance?
>
> I'd sure appreciate some help getting back up and running. : )
>
> jef
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| Re: Important adat sync questions for Dave et al [message #66165 is a reply to message #66163] |
Wed, 05 April 2006 08:50 |
Don Nafe
Messages: 1206
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Have you got the sync button engaged in the Nuendo transport window (F2
brings up the transport window I believe)
Don
"jef knight" <thestudio@allknightmusic.com> wrote in message
news:4433e7c5$1@linux...
> BTW...I won't be able to check replys until later on today.
> peace
>
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>
> jef knight wrote:
>
>> Hey guys,
>>
>> Well, it's been two freakin' years since I started getting sick and it
>> wasn't until Nov that they figured it out 'cuz I didn't have the one main
>> symptom that they look for...sheesh..dr's...
>> LSS...I'm back to health and feelin' great....downside - I've had to put
>> many things, including my music/studio endevours, on hold. Now that I'm
>> back to normal I can begin again where I left off.
>>
>> So where I left off was getting Nuendo (in comp 2) to slave to Paris (
>> comp 1) via paris adat card and digi9652 card.
>>
>> I have the settings and p-bay in Paris set correctly, I'm pretty sure,
>> 'cuz when I hit paris/play, the digi9652 control panel indicates that
>> the sync is working and the time begins to roll in comp 2.
>>
>> But Nuendo doesn't start. I've set it up the way I think it should go,
>> having done syncing (LTC) in Cubase for years, but I'm doing something
>> horrible wrong I suspect. Word clock is also connected. So I'm not sure
>> what's happening to make Nuendo not respond to the incoming 9-pin signal.
>>
>> Does the paris/digi setup allow me to use APP or regular adat sync (that
>> I'm in the dark about and assume it uses the optical conections, yes?
>> Dunno. Am I even using the correct way of going about syncing? What do I
>> need/need-to-know to make these two comps dance?
>>
>> I'd sure appreciate some help getting back up and running. : )
>>
>> jef
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| Re: Important adat sync questions for Dave et al [message #66167 is a reply to message #66160] |
Wed, 05 April 2006 09:05 |
excelav
Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit
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Hey Jeff! Glad to hear your doing better, welcome back!
James
jef knight <thestudio@allknightmusic.com> wrote:
>Hey guys,
>
>Well, it's been two freakin' years since I started getting sick and it
>wasn't until Nov that they figured it out 'cuz I didn't have the one
>main symptom that they look for...sheesh..dr's...
>LSS...I'm back to health and feelin' great....downside - I've had to put
>many things, including my music/studio endevours, on hold. Now that I'm
>back to normal I can begin again where I left off.
>
>So where I left off was getting Nuendo (in comp 2) to slave to Paris (
>comp 1) via paris adat card and digi9652 card.
>
>I have the settings and p-bay in Paris set correctly, I'm pretty sure,
>'cuz when I hit paris/play, the digi9652 control panel indicates that
>the sync is working and the time begins to roll in comp 2.
>
>But Nuendo doesn't start. I've set it up the way I think it should go,
>having done syncing (LTC) in Cubase for years, but I'm doing something
>horrible wrong I suspect. Word clock is also connected. So I'm not sure
>what's happening to make Nuendo not respond to the incoming 9-pin signal.
>
>Does the paris/digi setup allow me to use APP or regular adat sync (that
>I'm in the dark about and assume it uses the optical conections, yes?
>Dunno. Am I even using the correct way of going about syncing? What do I
>need/need-to-know to make these two comps dance?
>
>I'd sure appreciate some help getting back up and running. : )
>
>jef
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| Re: Important adat sync questions for Dave et al [message #66169 is a reply to message #66165] |
Wed, 05 April 2006 08:59 |
jef knight[1]
Messages: 201
Registered: October 2005
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Yup. Whatever is going on here is related to some non-intuitive setting
I think.
Don Nafe wrote:
>Have you got the sync button engaged in the Nuendo transport window (F2
>brings up the transport window I believe)
>
>Don
>
>
>"jef knight" <thestudio@allknightmusic.com> wrote in message
>news:4433e7c5$1@linux...
>
>
>>BTW...I won't be able to check replys until later on today.
>>peace
>>
>>
>>
>>jef knight wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Hey guys,
>>>
>>>Well, it's been two freakin' years since I started getting sick and it
>>>wasn't until Nov that they figured it out 'cuz I didn't have the one main
>>>symptom that they look for...sheesh..dr's...
>>>LSS...I'm back to health and feelin' great....downside - I've had to put
>>>many things, including my music/studio endevours, on hold. Now that I'm
>>>back to normal I can begin again where I left off.
>>>
>>>So where I left off was getting Nuendo (in comp 2) to slave to Paris (
>>>comp 1) via paris adat card and digi9652 card.
>>>
>>>I have the settings and p-bay in Paris set correctly, I'm pretty sure,
>>>'cuz when I hit paris/play, the digi9652 control panel indicates that
>>>the sync is working and the time begins to roll in comp 2.
>>>
>>>But Nuendo doesn't start. I've set it up the way I think it should go,
>>>having done syncing (LTC) in Cubase for years, but I'm doing something
>>>horrible wrong I suspect. Word clock is also connected. So I'm not sure
>>>what's happening to make Nuendo not respond to the incoming 9-pin signal.
>>>
>>>Does the paris/digi setup allow me to use APP or regular adat sync (that
>>>I'm in the dark about and assume it uses the optical conections, yes?
>>>Dunno. Am I even using the correct way of going about syncing? What do I
>>>need/need-to-know to make these two comps dance?
>>>
>>>I'd sure appreciate some help getting back up and running. : )
>>>
>>>jef
>>>
>>>
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| Re: Important adat sync questions for Dave et al [message #66170 is a reply to message #66167] |
Wed, 05 April 2006 09:00 |
jef knight[1]
Messages: 201
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Thanks James!
James McCloskey wrote:
>Hey Jeff! Glad to hear your doing better, welcome back!
>
>James
>
>jef knight <thestudio@allknightmusic.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Hey guys,
>>
>>Well, it's been two freakin' years since I started getting sick and it
>>wasn't until Nov that they figured it out 'cuz I didn't have the one
>>main symptom that they look for...sheesh..dr's...
>>LSS...I'm back to health and feelin' great....downside - I've had to put
>>
>>
>
>
>
>>many things, including my music/studio endevours, on hold. Now that I'm
>>
>>
>
>
>
>>back to normal I can begin again where I left off.
>>
>>So where I left off was getting Nuendo (in comp 2) to slave to Paris (
>>comp 1) via paris adat card and digi9652 card.
>>
>>I have the settings and p-bay in Paris set correctly, I'm pretty sure,
>>'cuz when I hit paris/play, the digi9652 control panel indicates that
>>the sync is working and the time begins to roll in comp 2.
>>
>>But Nuendo doesn't start. I've set it up the way I think it should go,
>>having done syncing (LTC) in Cubase for years, but I'm doing something
>>horrible wrong I suspect. Word clock is also connected. So I'm not sure
>>
>>
>
>
>
>>what's happening to make Nuendo not respond to the incoming 9-pin signal.
>>
>>Does the paris/digi setup allow me to use APP or regular adat sync (that
>>
>>
>
>
>
>>I'm in the dark about and assume it uses the optical conections, yes?
>>Dunno. Am I even using the correct way of going about syncing? What do I
>>
>>
>
>
>
>>need/need-to-know to make these two comps dance?
>>
>>I'd sure appreciate some help getting back up and running. : )
>>
>>jef
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Re: Important adat sync questions for Dave et al [message #66171 is a reply to message #66160] |
Wed, 05 April 2006 09:02 |
EK Sound
Messages: 939
Registered: June 2005
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Hi Jef,
Nice to see you back on the group, and in good health!
AFAIK, the Digi series had issues with syncing using the 9 pin port.
I seem to recall BT having issues with these cards and had to switch
to the HDSP version. I was not succesful at getting this to work here
with a Nuendo 9652 card (Digi 9652 re-badged for Steinberg) and made
the switch to the HDSP version also (anyone want a cheap Nuendo 9652
card? ;-). I think it had to do with either NU/Cubase software
versions, or operating system... can't remember exactly what it was.
Perhaps DJ has more to add here...
Regards,
David.
jef knight wrote:
> Hey guys,
>
> Well, it's been two freakin' years since I started getting sick and it
> wasn't until Nov that they figured it out 'cuz I didn't have the one
> main symptom that they look for...sheesh..dr's...
> LSS...I'm back to health and feelin' great....downside - I've had to put
> many things, including my music/studio endevours, on hold. Now that I'm
> back to normal I can begin again where I left off.
>
> So where I left off was getting Nuendo (in comp 2) to slave to Paris (
> comp 1) via paris adat card and digi9652 card.
>
> I have the settings and p-bay in Paris set correctly, I'm pretty sure,
> 'cuz when I hit paris/play, the digi9652 control panel indicates that
> the sync is working and the time begins to roll in comp 2.
>
> But Nuendo doesn't start. I've set it up the way I think it should go,
> having done syncing (LTC) in Cubase for years, but I'm doing something
> horrible wrong I suspect. Word clock is also connected. So I'm not sure
> what's happening to make Nuendo not respond to the incoming 9-pin signal.
>
> Does the paris/digi setup allow me to use APP or regular adat sync (that
> I'm in the dark about and assume it uses the optical conections, yes?
> Dunno. Am I even using the correct way of going about syncing? What do I
> need/need-to-know to make these two comps dance?
>
> I'd sure appreciate some help getting back up and running. : )
>
> jef
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| Re: Important adat sync questions for Dave et al [message #66175 is a reply to message #66171] |
Wed, 05 April 2006 09:50 |
Deej [1]
Messages: 2149
Registered: January 2006
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SX needs to be set to sync to ASIO positioning protocall or something like
that. I'll have to check tonight when I can get to this. I also recall
issues with the older *digi* 96 cards not syncing to Paris. My best advice
would be to sell the old card and get an HDSP model. These just work
flawlessly with no gnashing of garments, rending of teeth.
;o)
"EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message news:4433eba1$1@linux...
> Hi Jef,
>
> Nice to see you back on the group, and in good health!
>
> AFAIK, the Digi series had issues with syncing using the 9 pin port.
> I seem to recall BT having issues with these cards and had to switch
> to the HDSP version. I was not succesful at getting this to work here
> with a Nuendo 9652 card (Digi 9652 re-badged for Steinberg) and made
> the switch to the HDSP version also (anyone want a cheap Nuendo 9652
> card? ;-). I think it had to do with either NU/Cubase software
> versions, or operating system... can't remember exactly what it was.
> Perhaps DJ has more to add here...
>
> Regards,
>
> David.
>
> jef knight wrote:
> > Hey guys,
> >
> > Well, it's been two freakin' years since I started getting sick and it
> > wasn't until Nov that they figured it out 'cuz I didn't have the one
> > main symptom that they look for...sheesh..dr's...
> > LSS...I'm back to health and feelin' great....downside - I've had to put
> > many things, including my music/studio endevours, on hold. Now that I'm
> > back to normal I can begin again where I left off.
> >
> > So where I left off was getting Nuendo (in comp 2) to slave to Paris (
> > comp 1) via paris adat card and digi9652 card.
> >
> > I have the settings and p-bay in Paris set correctly, I'm pretty sure,
> > 'cuz when I hit paris/play, the digi9652 control panel indicates that
> > the sync is working and the time begins to roll in comp 2.
> >
> > But Nuendo doesn't start. I've set it up the way I think it should go,
> > having done syncing (LTC) in Cubase for years, but I'm doing something
> > horrible wrong I suspect. Word clock is also connected. So I'm not sure
> > what's happening to make Nuendo not respond to the incoming 9-pin
signal.
> >
> > Does the paris/digi setup allow me to use APP or regular adat sync (that
> > I'm in the dark about and assume it uses the optical conections, yes?
> > Dunno. Am I even using the correct way of going about syncing? What do I
> > need/need-to-know to make these two comps dance?
> >
> > I'd sure appreciate some help getting back up and running. : )
> >
> > jef
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| Re: Important adat sync questions for Dave et al [message #66216 is a reply to message #66175] |
Thu, 06 April 2006 07:16 |
jef knight[1]
Messages: 201
Registered: October 2005
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oops, sorry guys, it IS the HDSP I have in there. Now what? Should I set
it to APP? Gonna try that.
DJ wrote:
>SX needs to be set to sync to ASIO positioning protocall or something like
>that. I'll have to check tonight when I can get to this. I also recall
>issues with the older *digi* 96 cards not syncing to Paris. My best advice
>would be to sell the old card and get an HDSP model. These just work
>flawlessly with no gnashing of garments, rending of teeth.
>
>;o)
>
>"EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message news:4433eba1$1@linux...
>
>
>>Hi Jef,
>>
>>Nice to see you back on the group, and in good health!
>>
>>AFAIK, the Digi series had issues with syncing using the 9 pin port.
>>I seem to recall BT having issues with these cards and had to switch
>>to the HDSP version. I was not succesful at getting this to work here
>>with a Nuendo 9652 card (Digi 9652 re-badged for Steinberg) and made
>>the switch to the HDSP version also (anyone want a cheap Nuendo 9652
>>card? ;-). I think it had to do with either NU/Cubase software
>>versions, or operating system... can't remember exactly what it was.
>>Perhaps DJ has more to add here...
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>David.
>>
>>jef knight wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hey guys,
>>>
>>>Well, it's been two freakin' years since I started getting sick and it
>>>wasn't until Nov that they figured it out 'cuz I didn't have the one
>>>main symptom that they look for...sheesh..dr's...
>>>LSS...I'm back to health and feelin' great....downside - I've had to put
>>>many things, including my music/studio endevours, on hold. Now that I'm
>>>back to normal I can begin again where I left off.
>>>
>>>So where I left off was getting Nuendo (in comp 2) to slave to Paris (
>>>comp 1) via paris adat card and digi9652 card.
>>>
>>>I have the settings and p-bay in Paris set correctly, I'm pretty sure,
>>>'cuz when I hit paris/play, the digi9652 control panel indicates that
>>>the sync is working and the time begins to roll in comp 2.
>>>
>>>But Nuendo doesn't start. I've set it up the way I think it should go,
>>>having done syncing (LTC) in Cubase for years, but I'm doing something
>>>horrible wrong I suspect. Word clock is also connected. So I'm not sure
>>>what's happening to make Nuendo not respond to the incoming 9-pin
>>>
>>>
>signal.
>
>
>>>Does the paris/digi setup allow me to use APP or regular adat sync (that
>>>I'm in the dark about and assume it uses the optical conections, yes?
>>>Dunno. Am I even using the correct way of going about syncing? What do I
>>>need/need-to-know to make these two comps dance?
>>>
>>>I'd sure appreciate some help getting back up and running. : )
>>>
>>>jef
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
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| Re: Important adat sync questions for Dave et al [message #66220 is a reply to message #66216] |
Thu, 06 April 2006 08:43 |
Deej [1]
Messages: 2149
Registered: January 2006
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The ADAT sync being generated by Paris is dependant on the clock signal
being received by Paris. If you are using the Paris clock, then the HDSP
will be syncing to the Paris clock. If you're not using an external clock,
the RME HDSP clock is probably more accurate than the Paris clock.
If you are using more than one MEC, the best way to sync Paris to an
external clock is to distribute the RME clock with an external box like the
Lucid CLK-6 receiving sync from the RME and then sending it to each MEC.
If you do this, you will need to edit your Paris.cfg file wby adding the
following line:
UsrHouseSync=1
Then you will need to go into C:\\Program Files\EMU\Paris and open Paris
from your original Paris.exe file. When the Project opens, set the sync
source to Word Clock and the sample rate to 48kHz and name it default
project.ppj. Save this twice, once to your C:\\Program Files\EMU\Paris
directory and once to your desktop. Then reboot Paris and you will be good
to go with a house clock. You don't need to set the house clock to 48kHz.
Leave it at 44.1. Just open the default project.ppj, , then navigate to your
other projects that are 44.1, open them and reset the clock source to 44.1,
close them, reopen them and you're good. Your paris projects are now sync'ed
to the HDSP (or other) clock.
Now whether or not you did all of the stuff above, the HDSP should still
sync to ADAT timecode being generated by Paris, no matter what clock Paris
is generating, sooooo.........in Nuendo, set it to sync to
ASIO Positioning Protocall, connect a serial cable from the Paris ADAT
output to the HDSP ADAT input go into the HDSP control panel and set it to
sync to ADAT sync hit play on the Paris C-16 and the timelines should lock
up.
Deej
"jef knight" <thestudio@allknightmusic.com> wrote in message
news:44352480@linux...
> oops, sorry guys, it IS the HDSP I have in there. Now what? Should I set
> it to APP? Gonna try that.
>
> DJ wrote:
>
> >SX needs to be set to sync to ASIO positioning protocall or something
like
> >that. I'll have to check tonight when I can get to this. I also recall
> >issues with the older *digi* 96 cards not syncing to Paris. My best
advice
> >would be to sell the old card and get an HDSP model. These just work
> >flawlessly with no gnashing of garments, rending of teeth.
> >
> >;o)
> >
> >"EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message news:4433eba1$1@linux...
> >
> >
> >>Hi Jef,
> >>
> >>Nice to see you back on the group, and in good health!
> >>
> >>AFAIK, the Digi series had issues with syncing using the 9 pin port.
> >>I seem to recall BT having issues with these cards and had to switch
> >>to the HDSP version. I was not succesful at getting this to work here
> >>with a Nuendo 9652 card (Digi 9652 re-badged for Steinberg) and made
> >>the switch to the HDSP version also (anyone want a cheap Nuendo 9652
> >>card? ;-). I think it had to do with either NU/Cubase software
> >>versions, or operating system... can't remember exactly what it was.
> >>Perhaps DJ has more to add here...
> >>
> >>Regards,
> >>
> >>David.
> >>
> >>jef knight wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Hey guys,
> >>>
> >>>Well, it's been two freakin' years since I started getting sick and it
> >>>wasn't until Nov that they figured it out 'cuz I didn't have the one
> >>>main symptom that they look for...sheesh..dr's...
> >>>LSS...I'm back to health and feelin' great....downside - I've had to
put
> >>>many things, including my music/studio endevours, on hold. Now that I'm
> >>>back to normal I can begin again where I left off.
> >>>
> >>>So where I left off was getting Nuendo (in comp 2) to slave to Paris (
> >>>comp 1) via paris adat card and digi9652 card.
> >>>
> >>>I have the settings and p-bay in Paris set correctly, I'm pretty sure,
> >>>'cuz when I hit paris/play, the digi9652 control panel indicates that
> >>>the sync is working and the time begins to roll in comp 2.
> >>>
> >>>But Nuendo doesn't start. I've set it up the way I think it should go,
> >>>having done syncing (LTC) in Cubase for years, but I'm doing something
> >>>horrible wrong I suspect. Word clock is also connected. So I'm not sure
> >>>what's happening to make Nuendo not respond to the incoming 9-pin
> >>>
> >>>
> >signal.
> >
> >
> >>>Does the paris/digi setup allow me to use APP or regular adat sync
(that
> >>>I'm in the dark about and assume it uses the optical conections, yes?
> >>>Dunno. Am I even using the correct way of going about syncing? What do
I
> >>>need/need-to-know to make these two comps dance?
> >>>
> >>>I'd sure appreciate some help getting back up and running. : )
> >>>
> >>>jef
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> >
> >
> >
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| Re: Important adat sync questions for Dave et al - woohoo! [message #66227 is a reply to message #66220] |
Thu, 06 April 2006 10:38 |
jef knight[1]
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Geez, thanks so much for the indepth look under the hood Deej!
So, if I read you correctly, I can use the clock in the hdsp via word
clock right? So I need to hook up a work clock cable from the hdsp out
to paris in? Do I need to terminate this?
As for the settings, I had made some goofy choices in the setup of
Nuendo the other day. I just now switched to the hdsp asio driver
(rather than the asio multimedia driver) and sellected "asio audio card"
in the sync options on the transport menu and Wa-lla! she rollin! Cool.
I'm gonna now do the Paris setting. I have a guy coming by to demo some
folk song or other, so I'll let you know tonight how it's all working out.
jef
DJ wrote:
>The ADAT sync being generated by Paris is dependant on the clock signal
>being received by Paris. If you are using the Paris clock, then the HDSP
>will be syncing to the Paris clock. If you're not using an external clock,
>the RME HDSP clock is probably more accurate than the Paris clock.
>
>If you are using more than one MEC, the best way to sync Paris to an
>external clock is to distribute the RME clock with an external box like the
>Lucid CLK-6 receiving sync from the RME and then sending it to each MEC.
>
>If you do this, you will need to edit your Paris.cfg file wby adding the
>following line:
>
>UsrHouseSync=1
>
>Then you will need to go into C:\\Program Files\EMU\Paris and open Paris
>from your original Paris.exe file. When the Project opens, set the sync
>source to Word Clock and the sample rate to 48kHz and name it default
>project.ppj. Save this twice, once to your C:\\Program Files\EMU\Paris
>directory and once to your desktop. Then reboot Paris and you will be good
>to go with a house clock. You don't need to set the house clock to 48kHz.
>Leave it at 44.1. Just open the default project.ppj, , then navigate to your
>other projects that are 44.1, open them and reset the clock source to 44.1,
>close them, reopen them and you're good. Your paris projects are now sync'ed
>to the HDSP (or other) clock.
>
>Now whether or not you did all of the stuff above, the HDSP should still
>sync to ADAT timecode being generated by Paris, no matter what clock Paris
>is generating, sooooo.........in Nuendo, set it to sync to
>ASIO Positioning Protocall, connect a serial cable from the Paris ADAT
>output to the HDSP ADAT input go into the HDSP control panel and set it to
>sync to ADAT sync hit play on the Paris C-16 and the timelines should lock
>up.
>
>Deej
>
>"jef knight" <thestudio@allknightmusic.com> wrote in message
>news:44352480@linux...
>
>
>>oops, sorry guys, it IS the HDSP I have in there. Now what? Should I set
>>it to APP? Gonna try that.
>>
>>DJ wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>SX needs to be set to sync to ASIO positioning protocall or something
>>>
>>>
>like
>
>
>>>that. I'll have to check tonight when I can get to this. I also recall
>>>issues with the older *digi* 96 cards not syncing to Paris. My best
>>>
>>>
>advice
>
>
>>>would be to sell the old card and get an HDSP model. These just work
>>>flawlessly with no gnashing of garments, rending of teeth.
>>>
>>>;o)
>>>
>>>"EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message news:4433eba1$1@linux...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hi Jef,
>>>>
>>>>Nice to see you back on the group, and in good health!
>>>>
>>>>AFAIK, the Digi series had issues with syncing using the 9 pin port.
>>>>I seem to recall BT having issues with these cards and had to switch
>>>>to the HDSP version. I was not succesful at getting this to work here
>>>>with a Nuendo 9652 card (Digi 9652 re-badged for Steinberg) and made
>>>>the switch to the HDSP version also (anyone want a cheap Nuendo 9652
>>>>card? ;-). I think it had to do with either NU/Cubase software
>>>>versions, or operating system... can't remember exactly what it was.
>>>>Perhaps DJ has more to add here...
>>>>
>>>>Regards,
>>>>
>>>>David.
>>>>
>>>>jef knight wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hey guys,
>>>>>
>>>>>Well, it's been two freakin' years since I started getting sick and it
>>>>>wasn't until Nov that they figured it out 'cuz I didn't have the one
>>>>>main symptom that they look for...sheesh..dr's...
>>>>>LSS...I'm back to health and feelin' great....downside - I've had to
>>>>>
>>>>>
>put
>
>
>>>>>many things, including my music/studio endevours, on hold. Now that I'm
>>>>>back to normal I can begin again where I left off.
>>>>>
>>>>>So where I left off was getting Nuendo (in comp 2) to slave to Paris (
>>>>>comp 1) via paris adat card and digi9652 card.
>>>>>
>>>>>I have the settings and p-bay in Paris set correctly, I'm pretty sure,
>>>>>'cuz when I hit paris/play, the digi9652 control panel indicates that
>>>>>the sync is working and the time begins to roll in comp 2.
>>>>>
>>>>>But Nuendo doesn't start. I've set it up the way I think it should go,
>>>>>having done syncing (LTC) in Cubase for years, but I'm doing something
>>>>>horrible wrong I suspect. Word clock is also connected. So I'm not sure
>>>>>what's happening to make Nuendo not respond to the incoming 9-pin
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>signal.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>Does the paris/digi setup allow me to use APP or regular adat sync
>>>>>
>>>>>
>(that
>
>
>>>>>I'm in the dark about and assume it uses the optical conections, yes?
>>>>>Dunno. Am I even using the correct way of going about syncing? What do
>>>>>
>>>>>
>I
>
>
>>>>>need/need-to-know to make these two comps dance?
>>>>>
>>>>>I'd sure appreciate some help getting back up and running. : )
>>>>>
>>>>>jef
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
>
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Geez, thanks so much for the indepth look under the hood Deej! <br>
<br>
So, if I read you correctly, I can use the clock in the hdsp via word
clock right? So I need to hook up a work clock cable from the hdsp out
to paris in? Do I need to terminate this?<br>
<br>
As for the settings, I had made some goofy choices in the setup of
Nuendo the other day. I just now switched to the hdsp asio driver
(rather than the asio multimedia driver) and sellected "asio audio
card" in the sync options on the transport menu and Wa-lla! she rollin!
Cool.<br>
<br>
I'm gonna now do the Paris setting. I have a guy coming by to demo some
folk song or other, so I'll let you know tonight how it's all working
out.<br>
<br>
jef<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
DJ wrote:
<blockquote cite="mid44353950@linux" type="cite">
<pre wrap="">The ADAT sync being generated by Paris is dependant on the clock signal
being received by Paris. If you are using the Paris clock, then the HDSP
will be syncing to the Paris clock. If you're not using an external clock,
the RME HDSP clock is probably more accurate than the Paris clock.
If you are using more than one MEC, the best way to sync Paris to an
external clock is to distribute the RME clock with an external box like the
Lucid CLK-6 receiving sync from the RME and then sending it to each MEC.
If you do this, you will need to edit your Paris.cfg file wby adding the
following line:
UsrHouseSync=1
Then you will need to go into C:\\Program Files\EMU\Paris and open Paris
from your original Paris.exe file. When the Project opens, set the sync
source to Word Clock and the sample rate to 48kHz and name it default
project.ppj. Save this twice, once to your C:\\Program Files\EMU\Paris
directory and once to your desktop. Then reboot Paris and you will be good
to go with a house clock. You don't need to set the house clock to 48kHz.
Leave it at 44.1. Just open the default project.ppj, , then navigate to your
other projects that are 44.1, open them and reset the clock source to 44.1,
close them, reopen them and you're good. Your paris projects are now sync'ed
to the HDSP (or other) clock.
Now whether or not you did all of the stuff above, the HDSP should still
sync to ADAT timecode being generated by Paris, no matter what clock Paris
is generating, sooooo.........in Nuendo, set it to sync to
ASIO Positioning Protocall, connect a serial cable from the Paris ADAT
output to the HDSP ADAT input go into the HDSP control panel and set it to
sync to ADAT sync hit play on the Paris C-16 and the timelines should lock
up.
Deej
"jef knight" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:thestudio@allknightmusic.com"><thestudio@allknightmusic.com></a> wrote in message
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="news:44352480@linux">news:44352480@linux</a>...
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">oops, sorry guys, it IS the HDSP I have in there. Now what? Should I set
it to APP? Gonna try that.
DJ wrote:
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">SX needs to be set to sync to ASIO positioning protocall or something
</pre>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->like
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">that. I'll have to check tonight when I can get to this. I also recall
issues with the older *digi* 96 cards not syncing to Paris. My best
</pre>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->advice
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">would be to sell the old card and get an HDSP model. These just work
flawlessly with no gnashing of garments, rending of teeth.
;o)
"EK Sound" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:askme@nospam.com"><askme@nospam.com></a> wrote in message <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="news:4433eba1$1@linux">news:4433eba1$1@linux</a>...
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">Hi Jef,
Nice to see you back on the group, and in good health!
AFAIK, the Digi series had issues with syncing using the 9 pin port.
I seem to recall BT having issues with these cards and had to switch
to the HDSP version. I was not succesful at getting this to work here
with a Nuendo 9652 card (Digi 9652 re-badged for Steinberg) and made
the switch to the HDSP version also (anyone want a cheap Nuendo 9652
card? ;-). I think it had to do with either NU/Cubase software
versions, or operating system... can't remember exactly what it was.
Perhaps DJ has more to add here...
Regards,
David.
jef knight wrote:
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">Hey guys,
Well, it's been two freakin' years since I started getting sick and it
wasn't until Nov that they figured it out 'cuz I didn't have the one
main symptom that they look for...sheesh..dr's...
LSS...I'm back to health and feelin' great....downside - I've had to
</pre>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->put
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">many things, including my music/studio endevours, on hold. Now that I'm
back to normal I can begin again where I left off.
So where I left off was getting Nuendo (in comp 2) to slave to Paris (
comp 1) via paris adat card and digi9652 card.
I have the settings and p-bay in Paris set correctly, I'm pretty sure,
'cuz when I hit paris/play, the digi9652 control panel indicates that
the sync is working and the time begins to roll in comp 2.
But Nuendo doesn't start. I've set it up the way I think it should go,
having done syncing (LTC) in Cubase for years, but I'm doing something
horrible wrong I suspect. Word clock is also connected. So I'm not sure
what's happening to make Nuendo not respond to the incoming 9-pin
</pre>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap="">signal.
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">Does the paris/digi setup allow me to use APP or regular adat sync
</pre>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->(that
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">I'm in the dark about and assume it uses the optical conections, yes?
Dunno. Am I even using the correct way of going about syncing? What do
</pre>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->I
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">need/need-to-know to make these two comps dance?
I'd sure appreciate some help getting back up and running. : )
jef
</pre>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap="">
</pre>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->
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Thu, 06 April 2006 11:17 |
EK Sound
Messages: 939
Registered: June 2005
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I would use a nice short high quality BNC cable, and clock Paris to
the HDSP. It will clear a little of the mud in the imaging of Paris.
Glad to see you got it working.
David.
jef knight wrote:
> Geez, thanks so much for the indepth look under the hood Deej!
>
> So, if I read you correctly, I can use the clock in the hdsp via word
> clock right? So I need to hook up a work clock cable from the hdsp out
> to paris in? Do I need to terminate this?
>
> As for the settings, I had made some goofy choices in the setup of
> Nuendo the other day. I just now switched to the hdsp asio driver
> (rather than the asio multimedia driver) and sellected "asio audio card"
> in the sync options on the transport menu and Wa-lla! she rollin! Cool.
>
> I'm gonna now do the Paris setting. I have a guy coming by to demo some
> folk song or other, so I'll let you know tonight how it's all working out.
>
> jef
>
>
>
> DJ wrote:
>
>>The ADAT sync being generated by Paris is dependant on the clock signal
>>being received by Paris. If you are using the Paris clock, then the HDSP
>>will be syncing to the Paris clock. If you're not using an external clock,
>>the RME HDSP clock is probably more accurate than the Paris clock.
>>
>>If you are using more than one MEC, the best way to sync Paris to an
>>external clock is to distribute the RME clock with an external box like the
>>Lucid CLK-6 receiving sync from the RME and then sending it to each MEC.
>>
>>If you do this, you will need to edit your Paris.cfg file wby adding the
>>following line:
>>
>>UsrHouseSync=1
>>
>>Then you will need to go into C:\\Program Files\EMU\Paris and open Paris
>>from your original Paris.exe file. When the Project opens, set the sync
>>source to Word Clock and the sample rate to 48kHz and name it default
>>project.ppj. Save this twice, once to your C:\\Program Files\EMU\Paris
>>directory and once to your desktop. Then reboot Paris and you will be good
>>to go with a house clock. You don't need to set the house clock to 48kHz.
>>Leave it at 44.1. Just open the default project.ppj, , then navigate to your
>>other projects that are 44.1, open them and reset the clock source to 44.1,
>>close them, reopen them and you're good. Your paris projects are now sync'ed
>>to the HDSP (or other) clock.
>>
>>Now whether or not you did all of the stuff above, the HDSP should still
>>sync to ADAT timecode being generated by Paris, no matter what clock Paris
>>is generating, sooooo.........in Nuendo, set it to sync to
>>ASIO Positioning Protocall, connect a serial cable from the Paris ADAT
>>output to the HDSP ADAT input go into the HDSP control panel and set it to
>>sync to ADAT sync hit play on the Paris C-16 and the timelines should lock
>>up.
>>
>>Deej
>>
>>"jef knight" <thestudio@allknightmusic.com> wrote in message
>>news:44352480@linux...
>>
>>
>>>oops, sorry guys, it IS the HDSP I have in there. Now what? Should I set
>>>it to APP? Gonna try that.
>>>
>>>DJ wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>SX needs to be set to sync to ASIO positioning protocall or something
>>>>
>>>>
>>like
>>
>>
>>>>that. I'll have to check tonight when I can get to this. I also recall
>>>>issues with the older *digi* 96 cards not syncing to Paris. My best
>>>>
>>>>
>>advice
>>
>>
>>>>would be to sell the old card and get an HDSP model. These just work
>>>>flawlessly with no gnashing of garments, rending of teeth.
>>>>
>>>>;o)
>>>>
>>>>"EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message news:4433eba1$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hi Jef,
>>>>>
>>>>>Nice to see you back on the group, and in good health!
>>>>>
>>>>>AFAIK, the Digi series had issues with syncing using the 9 pin port.
>>>>>I seem to recall BT having issues with these cards and had to switch
>>>>>to the HDSP version. I was not succesful at getting this to work here
>>>>>with a Nuendo 9652 card (Digi 9652 re-badged for Steinberg) and made
>>>>>the switch to the HDSP version also (anyone want a cheap Nuendo 9652
>>>>>card? ;-). I think it had to do with either NU/Cubase software
>>>>>versions, or operating system... can't remember exactly what it was.
>>>>>Perhaps DJ has more to add here...
>>>>>
>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>>David.
>>>>>
>>>>>jef knight wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hey guys,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Well, it's been two freakin' years since I started getting sick and it
>>>>>>wasn't until Nov that they figured it out 'cuz I didn't have the one
>>>>>>main symptom that they look for...sheesh..dr's...
>>>>>>LSS...I'm back to health and feelin' great....downside - I've had to
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>put
>>
>>
>>>>>>many things, including my music/studio endevours, on hold. Now that I'm
>>>>>>back to normal I can begin again where I left off.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>So where I left off was getting Nuendo (in comp 2) to slave to Paris (
>>>>>>comp 1) via paris adat card and digi9652 card.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I have the settings and p-bay in Paris set correctly, I'm pretty sure,
>>>>>>'cuz when I hit paris/play, the digi9652 control panel indicates that
>>>>>>the sync is working and the time begins to roll in comp 2.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>But Nuendo doesn't start. I've set it up the way I think it should go,
>>>>>>having done syncing (LTC) in Cubase for years, but I'm doing something
>>>>>>horrible wrong I suspect. Word clock is also connected. So I'm not sure
>>>>>>what's happening to make Nuendo not respond to the incoming 9-pin
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>signal.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>Does the paris/digi setup allow me to use APP or regular adat sync
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>(that
>>
>>
>>>>>>I'm in the dark about and assume it uses the optical conections, yes?
>>>>>>Dunno. Am I even using the correct way of going about syncing? What do
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>I
>>
>>
>>>>>>need/need-to-know to make these two comps dance?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I'd sure appreciate some help getting back up and running. : )
>>>>>>
>>>>>>jef
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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| Re: Important adat sync questions for Dave et al - woohoo! [message #66232 is a reply to message #66227] |
Thu, 06 April 2006 11:21 |
Deej [1]
Messages: 2149
Registered: January 2006
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Jef.....answers below:
"jef knight" <thestudio@allknightmusic.com> wrote in message =
news:443553db@linux...
Geez, thanks so much for the indepth look under the hood Deej!=20
So, if I read you correctly, I can use the clock in the hdsp via word =
clock right?=20
Yes.
So I need to hook up a work clock cable from the hdsp out to paris =
in? Do I need to terminate this?
I would do it. Paris is supposed to autoterminate and the HDSP has a =
jumper, but I would still do it with 75ohm terminator caps.
As for the settings, I had made some goofy choices in the setup of =
Nuendo the other day. I just now switched to the hdsp asio driver =
(rather than the asio multimedia driver) and sellected "asio audio card" =
in the sync options on the transport menu and Wa-lla! she rollin! Cool.
Cool indeed!!!!
I'm gonna now do the Paris setting. I have a guy coming by to demo =
some folk song or other, so I'll let you know tonight how it's all =
working out.
If you're not using the RME as master clock, there's no need to change =
anything in Paris.=20
jef
DJ wrote:=20
The ADAT sync being generated by Paris is dependant on the clock signal
being received by Paris. If you are using the Paris clock, then the HDSP
will be syncing to the Paris clock. If you're not using an external =
clock,
the RME HDSP clock is probably more accurate than the Paris clock.
If you are using more than one MEC, the best way to sync Paris to an
external clock is to distribute the RME clock with an external box like =
the
Lucid CLK-6 receiving sync from the RME and then sending it to each MEC.
If you do this, you will need to edit your Paris.cfg file wby adding the
following line:
UsrHouseSync=3D1
Then you will need to go into C:\\Program Files\EMU\Paris and open Paris
from your original Paris.exe file. When the Project opens, set the sync
source to Word Clock and the sample rate to 48kHz and name it default
project.ppj. Save this twice, once to your C:\\Program Files\EMU\Paris
directory and once to your desktop. Then reboot Paris and you will be =
good
to go with a house clock. You don't need to set the house clock to =
48kHz.
Leave it at 44.1. Just open the default project.ppj, , then navigate to =
your
other projects that are 44.1, open them and reset the clock source to =
44.1,
close them, reopen them and you're good. Your paris projects are now =
sync'ed
to the HDSP (or other) clock.
Now whether or not you did all of the stuff above, the HDSP should still
sync to ADAT timecode being generated by Paris, no matter what clock =
Paris
is generating, sooooo.........in Nuendo, set it to sync to
ASIO Positioning Protocall, connect a serial cable from the Paris ADAT
output to the HDSP ADAT input go into the HDSP control panel and set it =
to
sync to ADAT sync hit play on the Paris C-16 and the timelines should =
lock
up.
Deej
"jef knight" <thestudio@allknightmusic.com> wrote in message
news:44352480@linux...
oops, sorry guys, it IS the HDSP I have in there. Now what? Should I =
set
it to APP? Gonna try that.
DJ wrote:
SX needs to be set to sync to ASIO positioning protocall or =
something
like
that. I'll have to check tonight when I can get to this. I also recall
issues with the older *digi* 96 cards not syncing to Paris. My best
advice
would be to sell the old card and get an HDSP model. These just work
flawlessly with no gnashing of garments, rending of teeth.
;o)
"EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message news:4433eba1$1@linux...
Hi Jef,
Nice to see you back on the group, and in good health!
AFAIK, the Digi series had issues with syncing using the 9 pin port.
I seem to recall BT having issues with these cards and had to switch
to the HDSP version. I was not succesful at getting this to work here
with a Nuendo 9652 card (Digi 9652 re-badged for Steinberg) and made
the switch to the HDSP version also (anyone want a cheap Nuendo 9652
card? ;-). I think it had to do with either NU/Cubase software
versions, or operating system... can't remember exactly what it was.
Perhaps DJ has more to add here...
Regards,
David.
jef knight wrote:
Hey guys,
Well, it's been two freakin' years since I started getting sick and it
wasn't until Nov that they figured it out 'cuz I didn't have the one
main symptom that they look for...sheesh..dr's...
LSS...I'm back to health and feelin' great....downside - I've had to
put
many things, including my music/studio endevours, on hold. Now that =
I'm
back to normal I can begin again where I left off.
So where I left off was getting Nuendo (in comp 2) to slave to Paris (
comp 1) via paris adat card and digi9652 card.
I have the settings and p-bay in Paris set correctly, I'm pretty sure,
'cuz when I hit paris/play, the digi9652 control panel indicates that
the sync is working and the time begins to roll in comp 2.
But Nuendo doesn't start. I've set it up the way I think it should go,
having done syncing (LTC) in Cubase for years, but I'm doing something
horrible wrong I suspect. Word clock is also connected. So I'm not sure
what's happening to make Nuendo not respond to the incoming 9-pin
signal.
Does the paris/digi setup allow me to use APP or regular adat sync
(that
I'm in the dark about and assume it uses the optical conections, yes?
Dunno. Am I even using the correct way of going about syncing? What do
I
need/need-to-know to make these two comps dance?
I'd sure appreciate some help getting back up and running. : )
jef
=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jef.....answers below:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>"jef knight" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:thestudio@allknightmusic.com">thestudio@allknightmusic.com=
</A>>=20
wrote in message <A=20
href=3D"news:443553db@linux">news:443553db@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV>Geez, thanks so much for the indepth look under the hood Deej!=20
<BR><BR>So, if I read you correctly, I can use the clock in the hdsp =
via word=20
clock right? </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>Yes.</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>So I need to hook up a work clock cable from the hdsp out =
to paris=20
in? Do I need to terminate this?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>I would do it. Paris is =
supposed to=20
autoterminate and the HDSP has a jumper, but I would still do it with =
75ohm=20
terminator caps.</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR>As for the settings, I had made some goofy choices in the =
setup=20
of Nuendo the other day. I just now switched to the hdsp asio driver =
(rather=20
than the asio multimedia driver) and sellected "asio audio card" in =
the sync=20
options on the transport menu and Wa-lla! she rollin! Cool.</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Cool=20
indeed!!!!</FONT><BR><BR></STRONG>I'm gonna now do the Paris setting. =
I have a=20
guy coming by to demo some folk song or other, so I'll let you know =
tonight=20
how it's all working out.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If you're not using the RME =
as master=20
clock, there's no need to change anything in Paris.=20
</FONT><BR></STRONG><BR>jef<BR><BR><BR><BR>DJ wrote: </DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite=3Dmid44353950@linux type=3D"cite"><PRE wrap=3D"">The =
ADAT sync being generated by Paris is dependant on the clock signal
being received by Paris. If you are using the Paris clock, then the HDSP
will be syncing to the Paris clock. If you're not using an external =
clock,
the RME HDSP clock is probably more accurate than the Paris clock.
If you are using more than one MEC, the best way to sync Paris to an
external clock is to distribute the RME clock with an external box like =
the
Lucid CLK-6 receiving sync from the RME and then sending it to each MEC.
If you do this, you will need to edit your Paris.cfg file wby adding the
following line:
UsrHouseSync=3D1
Then you will need to go into C:\\Program Files\EMU\Paris and open Paris
from your original Paris.exe file. When the Project opens, set the sync
source to Word Clock and the sample rate to 48kHz and name it default
project.ppj. Save this twice, once to your C:\\Program Files\EMU\Paris
directory and once to your desktop. Then reboot Paris and you will be =
good
to go with a house clock. You don't need to set the house clock to =
48kHz.
Leave it at 44.1. Just open the default project.ppj, , then navigate to =
your
other projects that are 44.1, open them and reset the clock source to =
44.1,
close them, reopen them and you're good. Your paris projects are now =
sync'ed
to the HDSP (or other) clock.
Now whether or not you did all of the stuff above, the HDSP should still
sync to ADAT timecode being generated by Paris, no matter what clock =
Paris
is generating, sooooo.........in Nuendo, set it to sync to
ASIO Positioning Protocall, connect a serial cable from the Paris ADAT
output to the HDSP ADAT input go into the HDSP control panel and set it =
to
sync to ADAT sync hit play on the Paris C-16 and the timelines should =
lock
up.
Deej
"jef knight" <A class=3Dmoz-txt-link-rfc2396E =
href=3D"mailto:thestudio@allknightmusic.com"><thestudio@allknightmusic=
..com></A> wrote in message
<A class=3Dmoz-txt-link-freetext =
href=3D"news:44352480@linux">news:44352480@linux</A>...
</PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite"><PRE wrap=3D"">oops, sorry guys, it IS the =
HDSP I have in there. Now what? Should I set
it to APP? Gonna try that.
DJ wrote:
</PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite"><PRE wrap=3D"">SX needs to be set to =
sync to ASIO positioning protocall or something
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=3D""><!---->like
</PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite"><PRE wrap=3D"">that. I'll have to check =
tonight when I can get to this. I also recall
issues with the older *digi* 96 cards not syncing to Paris. My best
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=3D""><!---->advice
</PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite"><PRE wrap=3D"">would be to sell the old =
card and get an HDSP model. These just work
flawlessly with no gnashing of garments, rending of teeth.
;o)
"EK Sound" <A class=3Dmoz-txt-link-rfc2396E =
href=3D"mailto:askme@nospam.com"><askme@nospam.com></A> wrote in =
message <A class=3Dmoz-txt-link-freetext =
href=3D"news:4433eba1$1@linux">news:4433eba1$1@linux</A>...
</PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite"><PRE wrap=3D"">Hi Jef,
Nice to see you back on the group, and in good health!
AFAIK, the Digi series had issues with syncing using the 9 pin port.
I seem to recall BT having issues with these cards and had to switch
to the HDSP version. I was not succesful at getting this to work here
with a Nuendo 9652 card (Digi 9652 re-badged for Steinberg) and made
the switch to the HDSP version also (anyone want a cheap Nuendo 9652
card? ;-). I think it had to do with either NU/Cubase software
versions, or operating system... can't remember exactly what it was.
Perhaps DJ has more to add here...
Regards,
David.
jef knight wrote:
</PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite"><PRE wrap=3D"">Hey guys,
Well, it's been two freakin' years since I started getting sick and it
wasn't until Nov that they figured it out 'cuz I didn't have the one
main symptom that they look for...sheesh..dr's...
LSS...I'm back to health and feelin' great....downside - I've had to
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE ><PRE =
wrap=3D""><!---->put
</PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite"><PRE wrap=3D"">many things, =
including my music/studio endevours, on hold. Now that I'm
back to normal I can begin again where I left off.
So where I left off was getting Nuendo (in comp 2) to slave to Paris (
comp 1) via paris adat card and digi9652 card.
I have the settings and p-bay in Paris set correctly, I'm pretty sure,
'cuz when I hit paris/play, the digi9652 control panel indicates that
the sync is working and the time begins to roll in comp 2.
But Nuendo doesn't start. I've set it up the way I think it should go,
having done syncing (LTC) in Cubase for years, but I'm doing something
horrible wrong I suspect. Word clock is also connected. So I'm not sure
what's happening to make Nuendo not respond to the incoming 9-pin
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=3D"">signal.
</PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite"><PRE wrap=3D"">Does the paris/digi =
setup allow me to use APP or regular adat sync
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE ><PRE =
wrap=3D""><!---->(that
</PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite"><PRE wrap=3D"">I'm in the dark about =
and assume it uses the optical conections, yes?
Dunno. Am I even using the correct way of going about syncing? What do
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE ><PRE =
wrap=3D""><!---->I
</PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite"><PRE wrap=3D"">need/need-to-know to =
make these two comps dance?
I'd sure appreciate some help getting back up and running. : )
jef
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=3D"">
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Well holy heck batman, this thing seems to be working just fine!
I really wanna thank you guy, Deej and Dave, for the help.
It's great to be back to my old self and back in the group, hopefully in
a more meaningful way this time... ; )
cheers
DJ wrote:
> Jef.....answers below:
>
> "jef knight" <thestudio@allknightmusic.com
> <mailto:thestudio@allknightmusic.com>> wrote in message
> news:443553db@linux...
> Geez, thanks so much for the indepth look under the hood Deej!
>
> So, if I read you correctly, I can use the clock in the hdsp via
> word clock right?
>
> *Yes.*
>
> So I need to hook up a work clock cable from the hdsp out to
> paris in? Do I need to terminate this?
>
> *I would do it. Paris is supposed to autoterminate and the HDSP
> has a jumper, but I would still do it with 75ohm terminator caps.*
>
>
> As for the settings, I had made some goofy choices in the setup of
> Nuendo the other day. I just now switched to the hdsp asio driver
> (rather than the asio multimedia driver) and sellected "asio audio
> card" in the sync options on the transport menu and Wa-lla! she
> rollin! Cool.
>
> *Cool indeed!!!!
>
> *I'm gonna now do the Paris setting. I have a guy coming by to
> demo some folk song or other, so I'll let you know tonight how
> it's all working out.
>
> *If you're not using the RME as master clock, there's no need to
> change anything in Paris.
> *
> jef
>
>
>
> DJ wrote:
>
>>The ADAT sync being generated by Paris is dependant on the clock signal
>>being received by Paris. If you are using the Paris clock, then the HDSP
>>will be syncing to the Paris clock. If you're not using an external clock,
>>the RME HDSP clock is probably more accurate than the Paris clock.
>>
>>If you are using more than one MEC, the best way to sync Paris to an
>>external clock is to distribute the RME clock with an external box like the
>>Lucid CLK-6 receiving sync from the RME and then sending it to each MEC.
>>
>>If you do this, you will need to edit your Paris.cfg file wby adding the
>>following line:
>>
>>UsrHouseSync=1
>>
>>Then you will need to go into C:\\Program Files\EMU\Paris and open Paris
>>from your original Paris.exe file. When the Project opens, set the sync
>>source to Word Clock and the sample rate to 48kHz and name it default
>>project.ppj. Save this twice, once to your C:\\Program Files\EMU\Paris
>>directory and once to your desktop. Then reboot Paris and you will be good
>>to go with a house clock. You don't need to set the house clock to 48kHz.
>>Leave it at 44.1. Just open the default project.ppj, , then navigate to your
>>other projects that are 44.1, open them and reset the clock source to 44.1,
>>close them, reopen them and you're good. Your paris projects are now sync'ed
>>to the HDSP (or other) clock.
>>
>>Now whether or not you did all of the stuff above, the HDSP should still
>>sync to ADAT timecode being generated by Paris, no matter what clock Paris
>>is generating, sooooo.........in Nuendo, set it to sync to
>>ASIO Positioning Protocall, connect a serial cable from the Paris ADAT
>>output to the HDSP ADAT input go into the HDSP control panel and set it to
>>sync to ADAT sync hit play on the Paris C-16 and the timelines should lock
>>up.
>>
>>Deej
>>
>>"jef knight" <thestudio@allknightmusic.com> wrote in message
>>news:44352480@linux...
>>
>>
>>>oops, sorry guys, it IS the HDSP I have in there. Now what? Should I set
>>>it to APP? Gonna try that.
>>>
>>>DJ wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>SX needs to be set to sync to ASIO positioning protocall or something
>>>>
>>>>
>>like
>>
>>
>>>>that. I'll have to check tonight when I can get to this. I also recall
>>>>issues with the older *digi* 96 cards not syncing to Paris. My best
>>>>
>>>>
>>advice
>>
>>
>>>>would be to sell the old card and get an HDSP model. These just work
>>>>flawlessly with no gnashing of garments, rending of teeth.
>>>>
>>>>;o)
>>>>
>>>>"EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message news:4433eba1$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hi Jef,
>>>>>
>>>>>Nice to see you back on the group, and in good health!
>>>>>
>>>>>AFAIK, the Digi series had issues with syncing using the 9 pin port.
>>>>>I seem to recall BT having issues with these cards and had to switch
>>>>>to the HDSP version. I was not succesful at getting this to work here
>>>>>with a Nuendo 9652 card (Digi 9652 re-badged for Steinberg) and made
>>>>>the switch to the HDSP version also (anyone want a cheap Nuendo 9652
>>>>>card? ;-). I think it had to do with either NU/Cubase software
>>>>>versions, or operating system... can't remember exactly what it was.
>>>>>Perhaps DJ has more to add here...
>>>>>
>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>>David.
>>>>>
>>>>>jef knight wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hey guys,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Well, it's been two freakin' years since I started getting sick and it
>>>>>>wasn't until Nov that they figured it out 'cuz I didn't have the one
>>>>>>main symptom that they look for...sheesh..dr's...
>>>>>>LSS...I'm back to health and feelin' great....downside - I've had to
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>put
>>
>>
>>>>>>many things, including my music/studio endevours, on hold. Now that I'm
>>>>>>back to normal I can begin again where I left off.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>So where I left off was getting Nuendo (in comp 2) to slave to Paris (
>>>>>>comp 1) via paris adat card and digi9652 card.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I have the settings and p-bay in Paris set correctly, I'm pretty sure,
>>>>>>'cuz when I hit paris/play, the digi9652 control panel indicates that
>>>>>>the sync is working and the time begins to roll in comp 2.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>But Nuendo doesn't start. I've set it up the way I think it should go,
>>>>>>having done syncing (LTC) in Cubase for years, but I'm doing something
>>>>>>horrible wrong I suspect. Word clock is also connected. So I'm not sure
>>>>>>what's happening to make Nuendo not respond to the incoming 9-pin
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>signal.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>Does the paris/digi setup allow me to use APP or regular adat sync
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>(that
>>
>>
>>>>>>I'm in the dark about and assume it uses the optical conections, yes?
>>>>>>Dunno. Am I even using the correct way of going about syncing? What do
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>I
>>
>>
>>>>>>need/need-to-know to make these two comps dance?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I'd sure appreciate some help getting back up and running. : )
>>>>>>
>>>>>>jef
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Well holy heck batman, this thing seems to be working just fine!<br>
<br>
I really wanna thank you guy, Deej and Dave, for the help. <br>
<br>
It's great to be back to my old self and back in the group, hopefully
in a more meaningful way this time... ; )<br>
<br>
cheers<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
DJ wrote:
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Jef.....answers below:</font></div>
<div> </div>
<div>"jef knight" <<a href="mailto:thestudio@allknightmusic.com">thestudio@allknightmusic.com</a>>
wrote in message <a href="news:443553db@linux">news:443553db@linux</a>...</div>
<div>Geez, thanks so much for the indepth look under the hood Deej!
<br>
<br>
So, if I read you correctly, I can use the clock in the hdsp via word
clock right? </div>
<div> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"><strong>Yes.</strong></font></div>
<div> </div>
<div>So I need to hook up a work clock cable from the hdsp out to
paris in? Do I need to terminate this?</div>
<div> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"><strong>I would do it. Paris is
supposed to autoterminate and the HDSP has a jumper, but I would still
do it with 75ohm terminator caps.</strong></font></div>
<div><br>
<br>
As for the settings, I had made some goofy choices in the setup of
Nuendo the other day. I just now switched to the hdsp asio driver
(rather than the asio multimedia driver) and sellected "asio audio
card" in the sync options on the transport menu and Wa-lla! she rollin!
Cool.</div>
<div> </div>
<div><strong><font face="Arial" size="2">Cool indeed!!!!</font><br>
<br>
</strong>I'm gonna now do the Paris setting. I have a guy coming by
to demo some folk song or other, so I'll let you know tonight how it's
all working out.</div>
<div> </div>
<div><strong><font face="Arial" size="2">If you're not using the
RME as master clock, there's no need to change anything in Paris. </font><br>
</strong><br>
jef<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
DJ wrote: </div>
<blockquote cite="mid44353950@linux" type="cite">
<pre wrap="">The ADAT sync being generated by Paris is dependant on the clock signal
being received by Paris. If you are using the Paris clock, then the HDSP
will be syncing to the Paris clock. If you're not using an external clock,
the RME HDSP clock is probably more accurate than the Paris clock.
If you are using more than one MEC, the best way to sync Paris to an
external clock is to distribute the RME clock with an external box like the
Lucid CLK-6 receiving sync from the RME and then sending it to each MEC.
If you do this, you will need to edit your Paris.cfg file wby adding the
following line:
UsrHouseSync=1
Then you will need to go into C:\\Program Files\EMU\Paris and open Paris
from your original Paris.exe file. When the Project opens, set the sync
source to Word Clock and the sample rate to 48kHz and name it default
project.ppj. Save this twice, once to your C:\\Program Files\EMU\Paris
directory and once to your desktop. Then reboot Paris and you will be good
to go with a house clock. You don't need to set the house clock to 48kHz.
Leave it at 44.1. Just open the default project.ppj, , then navigate to your
other projects that are 44.1, open them and reset the clock source to 44.1,
close them, reopen them and you're good. Your paris projects are now sync'ed
to the HDSP (or other) clock.
Now whether or not you did all of the stuff above, the HDSP should still
sync to ADAT timecode being generated by Paris, no matter what clock Paris
is generating, sooooo.........in Nuendo, set it to sync to
ASIO Positioning Protocall, connect a serial cable from the Paris ADAT
output to the HDSP ADAT input go into the HDSP control panel and set it to
sync to ADAT sync hit play on the Paris C-16 and the timelines should lock
up.
Deej
"jef knight" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:thestudio@allknightmusic.com"><thestudio@allknightmusic.com></a> wrote in message
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="news:44352480@linux">news:44352480@linux</a>...
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">oops, sorry guys, it IS the HDSP I have in there. Now what? Should I set
it to APP? Gonna try that.
DJ wrote:
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">SX needs to be set to sync to ASIO positioning protocall or something
</pre>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->like
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">that. I'll have to check tonight when I can get to this. I also recall
issues with the older *digi* 96 cards not syncing to Paris. My best
</pre>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->advice
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">would be to sell the old card and get an HDSP model. These just work
flawlessly with no gnashing of garments, rending of teeth.
;o)
"EK Sound" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:askme@nospam.com"><askme@nospam.com></a> wrote in message <a
class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="news:4433eba1$1@linux">news:4433eba1$1@linux</a>...
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">Hi Jef,
Nice to see you back on the group, and in good health!
AFAIK, the Digi series had issues with syncing using the 9 pin port.
I seem to recall BT having issues with these cards and had to switch
to the HDSP version. I was not succesful at getting this to work here
with a Nuendo 9652 card (Digi 9652 re-badged for Steinberg) and made
the switch to the HDSP version also (anyone want a cheap Nuendo 9652
card? ;-). I think it had to do with either NU/Cubase software
versions, or operating system... can't remember exactly what it was.
Perhaps DJ has more to add here...
Regards,
David.
jef knight wrote:
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">Hey guys,
Well, it's been two freakin' years since I started getting sick and it
wasn't until Nov that they figured it out 'cuz I didn't have the one
main symptom that they look for...sheesh..dr's...
LSS...I'm back to health and feelin' great....downside - I've had to
</pre>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->put
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">many things, including my music/studio endevours, on hold. Now that I'm
back to normal I can begin again where I left off.
So where I left off was getting Nuendo (in comp 2) to slave to Paris (
comp 1) via paris adat card and digi9652 card.
I have the settings and p-bay in Paris set correctly, I'm pretty sure,
'cuz when I hit paris/play, the digi9652 control panel indicates that
the sync is working and the time begins to roll in comp 2.
But Nuendo doesn't start. I've set it up the way I think it should go,
having done syncing (LTC) in Cubase for years, but I'm doing something
horrible wrong I suspect. Word clock is also connected. So I'm not sure
what's happening to make Nuendo not respond to the incoming 9-pin
</pre>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap="">signal.
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">Does the paris/digi setup allow me to use APP or regular adat sync
</pre>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->(that
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">I'm in the dark about and assume it uses the optical conections, yes?
Dunno. Am I even using the correct way of going about syncing? What do
</pre>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->I
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">need/need-to-know to make these two comps dance?
I'd sure appreciate some help getting back up and running. : )
jef
</pre>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap="">
</pre>
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question below
DJ wrote:
> Jef.....answers below:
>
> "jef knight" <thestudio@allknightmusic.com
> <mailto:thestudio@allknightmusic.com>> wrote in message
> news:443553db@linux...
> Geez, thanks so much for the indepth look under the hood Deej!
>
> So, if I read you correctly, I can use the clock in the hdsp via
> word clock right?
>
> *Yes.*
>
> So I need to hook up a work clock cable from the hdsp out to
> paris in? Do I need to terminate this?
>
> *I would do it. Paris is supposed to autoterminate and the HDSP
> has a jumper, but I would still do it with 75ohm terminator caps.*
>
just to clarify, is this like scsi termitation when I need to actually
cap the cable (i never trusted the dip switches) ?, in this case with a
T and a terminator on the "far" and of the chain on the last device, or
would it be a not-so-bad idea to do the hdsp end also?
j
>
>
> As for the settings, I had made some goofy choices in the setup of
> Nuendo the other day. I just now switched to the hdsp asio driver
> (rather than the asio multimedia driver) and sellected "asio audio
> card" in the sync options on the transport menu and Wa-lla! she
> rollin! Cool.
>
> *Cool indeed!!!!
>
> *I'm gonna now do the Paris setting. I have a guy coming by to
> demo some folk song or other, so I'll let you know tonight how
> it's all working out.
>
> *If you're not using the RME as master clock, there's no need to
> change anything in Paris.
> *
> jef
>
>
>
> DJ wrote:
>
>>The ADAT sync being generated by Paris is dependant on the clock signal
>>being received by Paris. If you are using the Paris clock, then the HDSP
>>will be syncing to the Paris clock. If you're not using an external clock,
>>the RME HDSP clock is probably more accurate than the Paris clock.
>>
>>If you are using more than one MEC, the best way to sync Paris to an
>>external clock is to distribute the RME clock with an external box like the
>>Lucid CLK-6 receiving sync from the RME and then sending it to each MEC.
>>
>>If you do this, you will need to edit your Paris.cfg file wby adding the
>>following line:
>>
>>UsrHouseSync=1
>>
>>Then you will need to go into C:\\Program Files\EMU\Paris and open Paris
>>from your original Paris.exe file. When the Project opens, set the sync
>>source to Word Clock and the sample rate to 48kHz and name it default
>>project.ppj. Save this twice, once to your C:\\Program Files\EMU\Paris
>>directory and once to your desktop. Then reboot Paris and you will be good
>>to go with a house clock. You don't need to set the house clock to 48kHz.
>>Leave it at 44.1. Just open the default project.ppj, , then navigate to your
>>other projects that are 44.1, open them and reset the clock source to 44.1,
>>close them, reopen them and you're good. Your paris projects are now sync'ed
>>to the HDSP (or other) clock.
>>
>>Now whether or not you did all of the stuff above, the HDSP should still
>>sync to ADAT timecode being generated by Paris, no matter what clock Paris
>>is generating, sooooo.........in Nuendo, set it to sync to
>>ASIO Positioning Protocall, connect a serial cable from the Paris ADAT
>>output to the HDSP ADAT input go into the HDSP control panel and set it to
>>sync to ADAT sync hit play on the Paris C-16 and the timelines should lock
>>up.
>>
>>Deej
>>
>>"jef knight" <thestudio@allknightmusic.com> wrote in message
>>news:44352480@linux...
>>
>>
>>>oops, sorry guys, it IS the HDSP I have in there. Now what? Should I set
>>>it to APP? Gonna try that.
>>>
>>>DJ wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>SX needs to be set to sync to ASIO positioning protocall or something
>>>>
>>>>
>>like
>>
>>
>>>>that. I'll have to check tonight when I can get to this. I also recall
>>>>issues with the older *digi* 96 cards not syncing to Paris. My best
>>>>
>>>>
>>advice
>>
>>
>>>>would be to sell the old card and get an HDSP model. These just work
>>>>flawlessly with no gnashing of garments, rending of teeth.
>>>>
>>>>;o)
>>>>
>>>>"EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message news:4433eba1$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hi Jef,
>>>>>
>>>>>Nice to see you back on the group, and in good health!
>>>>>
>>>>>AFAIK, the Digi series had issues with syncing using the 9 pin port.
>>>>>I seem to recall BT having issues with these cards and had to switch
>>>>>to the HDSP version. I was not succesful at getting this to work here
>>>>>with a Nuendo 9652 card (Digi 9652 re-badged for Steinberg) and made
>>>>>the switch to the HDSP version also (anyone want a cheap Nuendo 9652
>>>>>card? ;-). I think it had to do with either NU/Cubase software
>>>>>versions, or operating system... can't remember exactly what it was.
>>>>>Perhaps DJ has more to add here...
>>>>>
>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>>David.
>>>>>
>>>>>jef knight wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hey guys,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Well, it's been two freakin' years since I started getting sick and it
>>>>>>wasn't until Nov that they figured it out 'cuz I didn't have the one
>>>>>>main symptom that they look for...sheesh..dr's...
>>>>>>LSS...I'm back to health and feelin' great....downside - I've had to
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>put
>>
>>
>>>>>>many things, including my music/studio endevours, on hold. Now that I'm
>>>>>>back to normal I can begin again where I left off.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>So where I left off was getting Nuendo (in comp 2) to slave to Paris (
>>>>>>comp 1) via paris adat card and digi9652 card.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I have the settings and p-bay in Paris set correctly, I'm pretty sure,
>>>>>>'cuz when I hit paris/play, the digi9652 control panel indicates that
>>>>>>the sync is working and the time begins to roll in comp 2.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>But Nuendo doesn't start. I've set it up the way I think it should go,
>>>>>>having done syncing (LTC) in Cubase for years, but I'm doing something
>>>>>>horrible wrong I suspect. Word clock is also connected. So I'm not sure
>>>>>>what's happening to make Nuendo not respond to the incoming 9-pin
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>signal.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>Does the paris/digi setup allow me to use APP or regular adat sync
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>(that
>>
>>
>>>>>>I'm in the dark about and assume it uses the optical conections, yes?
>>>>>>Dunno. Am I even using the correct way of going about syncing? What do
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>I
>>
>>
>>>>>>need/need-to-know to make these two comps dance?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I'd sure appreciate some help getting back up and running. : )
>>>>>>
>>>>>>jef
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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<div>"jef knight" <<a href="mailto:thestudio@allknightmusic.com">thestudio@allknightmusic.com</a>>
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<div>Geez, thanks so much for the indepth look under the hood Deej!
<br>
<br>
So, if I read you correctly, I can use the clock in the hdsp via word
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<div>So I need to hook up a work clock cable from the hdsp out to
paris in? Do I need to terminate this?</div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2"><strong>I would do it. Paris is
supposed to autoterminate and the HDSP has a jumper, but I would still
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just to clarify, is this like scsi termitation when I need to actually
cap the cable (i never trusted the dip switches) ?, in this case with a
T and a terminator on the "far" and of the chain on the last device, or
would it be a not-so-bad idea to do the hdsp end also?<br>
<br>
j<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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<div><br>
<br>
As for the settings, I had made some goofy choices in the setup of
Nuendo the other day. I just now switched to the hdsp asio driver
(rather than the asio multimedia driver) and sellected "asio audio
card" in the sync options on the transport menu and Wa-lla! she rollin!
Cool.</div>
<div> </div>
<div><strong><font face="Arial" size="2">Cool indeed!!!!</font><br>
<br>
</strong>I'm gonna now do the Paris setting. I have a guy coming by
to demo some folk song or other, so I'll let you know tonight how it's
all working out.</div>
<div> </div>
<div><strong><font face="Arial" size="2">If you're not using the
RME as master clock, there's no need to change anything in Paris. </font><br>
</strong><br>
jef<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
DJ wrote: </div>
<blockquote cite="mid44353950@linux" type="cite">
<pre wrap="">The ADAT sync being generated by Paris is dependant on the clock signal
being received by Paris. If you are using the Paris clock, then the HDSP
will be syncing to the Paris clock. If you're not using an external clock,
the RME HDSP clock is probably more accurate than the Paris clock.
If you are using more than one MEC, the best way to sync Paris to an
external clock is to distribute the RME clock with an external box like the
Lucid CLK-6 receiving sync from the RME and then sending it to each MEC.
If you do this, you will need to edit your Paris.cfg file wby adding the
following line:
UsrHouseSync=1
Then you will need to go into C:\\Program Files\EMU\Paris and open Paris
from your original Paris.exe file. When the Project opens, set the sync
source to Word Clock and the sample rate to 48kHz and name it default
project.ppj. Save this twice, once to your C:\\Program Files\EMU\Paris
directory and once to your desktop. Then reboot Paris and you will be good
to go with a house clock. You don't need to set the house clock to 48kHz.
Leave it at 44.1. Just open the default project.ppj, , then navigate to your
other projects that are 44.1, open them and reset the clock source to 44.1,
close them, reopen them and you're good. Your paris projects are now sync'ed
to the HDSP (or other) clock.
Now whether or not you did all of the stuff above, the HDSP should still
sync to ADAT timecode being generated by Paris, no matter what clock Paris
is generating, sooooo.........in Nuendo, set it to sync to
ASIO Positioning Protocall, connect a serial cable from the Paris ADAT
output to the HDSP ADAT input go into the HDSP control panel and set it to
sync to ADAT sync hit play on the Paris C-16 and the timelines should lock
up.
Deej
"jef knight" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:thestudio@allknightmusic.com"><thestudio@allknightmusic.com></a> wrote in message
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="news:44352480@linux">news:44352480@linux</a>...
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<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">oops, sorry guys, it IS the HDSP I have in there. Now what? Should I set
it to APP? Gonna try that.
DJ wrote:
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<pre wrap="">SX needs to be set to sync to ASIO positioning protocall or something
</pre>
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<pre wrap="">that. I'll have to check tonight when I can get to this. I also recall
issues with the older *digi* 96 cards not syncing to Paris. My best
</pre>
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<pre wrap=""><!---->advice
</pre>
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<pre wrap="">would be to sell the old card and get an HDSP model. These just work
flawlessly with no gnashing of garments, rending of teeth.
;o)
"EK Sound" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:askme@nospam.com"><askme@nospam.com></a> wrote in message <a
class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="news:4433eba1$1@linux">news:4433eba1$1@linux</a>...
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<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">Hi Jef,
Nice to see you back on the group, and in good health!
AFAIK, the Digi series had issues with syncing using the 9 pin port.
I seem to recall BT having issues with these cards and had to switch
to the HDSP version. I was not succesful at getting this to work here
with a Nuendo 9652 card (Digi 9652 re-badged for Steinberg) and made
the switch to the HDSP version also (anyone want a cheap Nuendo 9652
card? ;-). I think it had to do with either NU/Cubase software
versions, or operating system... can't remember exactly what it was.
Perhaps DJ has more to add here...
Regards,
David.
jef knight wrote:
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">Hey guys,
Well, it's been two freakin' years since I started getting sick and it
wasn't until Nov that they figured it out 'cuz I didn't have the one
main symptom that they look for...sheesh..dr's...
LSS...I'm back to health and feelin' great....downside - I've had to
</pre>
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</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->put
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<pre wrap="">many things, including my music/studio endevours, on hold. Now that I'm
back to normal I can begin again where I left off.
So where I left off was getting Nuendo (in comp 2) to slave to Paris (
comp 1) via paris adat card and digi9652 card.
I have the settings and p-bay in Paris set correctly, I'm pretty sure,
'cuz when I hit paris/play, the digi9652 control panel indicates that
the sync is working and the time begins to roll in comp 2.
But Nuendo doesn't start. I've set it up the way I think it should go,
having done syncing (LTC) in Cubase for years, but I'm doing something
horrible wrong I suspect. Word clock is also connected. So I'm not sure
what's happening to make Nuendo not respond to the incoming 9-pin
</pre>
</blockquote>
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<pre wrap="">signal.
</pre>
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<pre wrap="">Does the paris/digi setup allow me to use APP or regular adat sync
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<pre wrap="">I'm in the dark about and assume it uses the optical conections, yes?
Dunno. Am I even using the correct way of going about syncing? What do
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<pre wrap="">need/need-to-know to make these two comps dance?
I'd sure appreciate some help getting back up and running. : )
jef
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| Re: Important adat sync questions for Dave et al - woohoo! [message #66291 is a reply to message #66287] |
Fri, 07 April 2006 07:55 |
EK Sound
Messages: 939
Registered: June 2005
|
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If the last device in the WC chain has a "loop through" jack, then
attach a BNC connector that has a 75 Ohm 1% resistor soldered across
it. Some devices have actual 75 Ohm termination switches on them.
David.
jef knight wrote:
> question below
>
> DJ wrote:
>
>> Jef.....answers below:
>>
>> "jef knight" <thestudio@allknightmusic.com
>> <mailto:thestudio@allknightmusic.com>> wrote in message
>> news:443553db@linux...
>> Geez, thanks so much for the indepth look under the hood Deej!
>>
>> So, if I read you correctly, I can use the clock in the hdsp via
>> word clock right?
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>> So I need to hook up a work clock cable from the hdsp out to
>> paris in? Do I need to terminate this?
>>
>> I would do it. Paris is supposed to autoterminate and the HDSP has
>> a jumper, but I would still do it with 75ohm terminator caps.
>>
> just to clarify, is this like scsi termitation when I need to actually
> cap the cable (i never trusted the dip switches) ?, in this case with a
> T and a terminator on the "far" and of the chain on the last device, or
> would it be a not-so-bad idea to do the hdsp end also?
>
> j
>
>
>
>
>
>>
>>
>> As for the settings, I had made some goofy choices in the setup of
>> Nuendo the other day. I just now switched to the hdsp asio driver
>> (rather than the asio multimedia driver) and sellected "asio audio
>> card" in the sync options on the transport menu and Wa-lla! she
>> rollin! Cool.
>>
>> Cool indeed!!!!
>>
>> I'm gonna now do the Paris setting. I have a guy coming by to demo
>> some folk song or other, so I'll let you know tonight how it's all
>> working out.
>>
>> If you're not using the RME as master clock, there's no need to
>> change anything in Paris.
>>
>> jef
>>
>>
>>
>> DJ wrote:
>>
>>>The ADAT sync being generated by Paris is dependant on the clock signal
>>>being received by Paris. If you are using the Paris clock, then the HDSP
>>>will be syncing to the Paris clock. If you're not using an external clock,
>>>the RME HDSP clock is probably more accurate than the Paris clock.
>>>
>>>If you are using more than one MEC, the best way to sync Paris to an
>>>external clock is to distribute the RME clock with an external box like the
>>>Lucid CLK-6 receiving sync from the RME and then sending it to each MEC.
>>>
>>>If you do this, you will need to edit your Paris.cfg file wby adding the
>>>following line:
>>>
>>>UsrHouseSync=1
>>>
>>>Then you will need to go into C:\\Program Files\EMU\Paris and open Paris
>>>from your original Paris.exe file. When the Project opens, set the sync
>>>source to Word Clock and the sample rate to 48kHz and name it default
>>>project.ppj. Save this twice, once to your C:\\Program Files\EMU\Paris
>>>directory and once to your desktop. Then reboot Paris and you will be good
>>>to go with a house clock. You don't need to set the house clock to 48kHz.
>>>Leave it at 44.1. Just open the default project.ppj, , then navigate to your
>>>other projects that are 44.1, open them and reset the clock source to 44.1,
>>>close them, reopen them and you're good. Your paris projects are now sync'ed
>>>to the HDSP (or other) clock.
>>>
>>>Now whether or not you did all of the stuff above, the HDSP should still
>>>sync to ADAT timecode being generated by Paris, no matter what clock Paris
>>>is generating, sooooo.........in Nuendo, set it to sync to
>>>ASIO Positioning Protocall, connect a serial cable from the Paris ADAT
>>>output to the HDSP ADAT input go into the HDSP control panel and set it to
>>>sync to ADAT sync hit play on the Paris C-16 and the timelines should lock
>>>up.
>>>
>>>Deej
>>>
>>>"jef knight" <thestudio@allknightmusic.com> wrote in message
>>>news:44352480@linux...
>>>
>>>
>>>>oops, sorry guys, it IS the HDSP I have in there. Now what? Should I set
>>>>it to APP? Gonna try that.
>>>>
>>>>DJ wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>SX needs to be set to sync to ASIO positioning protocall or something
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>like
>>>
>>>
>>>>>that. I'll have to check tonight when I can get to this. I also recall
>>>>>issues with the older *digi* 96 cards not syncing to Paris. My best
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>advice
>>>
>>>
>>>>>would be to sell the old card and get an HDSP model. These just work
>>>>>flawlessly with no gnashing of garments, rending of teeth.
>>>>>
>>>>>;o)
>>>>>
>>>>>"EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message news:4433eba1$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi Jef,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Nice to see you back on the group, and in good health!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>AFAIK, the Digi series had issues with syncing using the 9 pin port.
>>>>>>I seem to recall BT having issues with these cards and had to switch
>>>>>>to the HDSP version. I was not succesful at getting this to work here
>>>>>>with a Nuendo 9652 card (Digi 9652 re-badged for Steinberg) and made
>>>>>>the switch to the HDSP version also (anyone want a cheap Nuendo 9652
>>>>>>card? ;-). I think it had to do with either NU/Cubase software
>>>>>>versions, or operating system... can't remember exactly what it was.
>>>>>>Perhaps DJ has more to add here...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>David.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>jef knight wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hey guys,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Well, it's been two freakin' years since I started getting sick and it
>>>>>>>wasn't until Nov that they figured it out 'cuz I didn't have the one
>>>>>>>main symptom that they look for...sheesh..dr's...
>>>>>>>LSS...I'm back to health and feelin' great....downside - I've had to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>put
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>many things, including my music/studio endevours, on hold. Now that I'm
>>>>>>>back to normal I can begin again where I left off.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>So where I left off was getting Nuendo (in comp 2) to slave to Paris (
>>>>>>>comp 1) via paris adat card and digi9652 card.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I have the settings and p-bay in Paris set correctly, I'm pretty sure,
>>>>>>>'cuz when I hit paris/play, the digi9652 control panel indicates that
>>>>>>>the sync is working and the time begins to roll in comp 2.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>But Nuendo doesn't start. I've set it up the way I think it should go,
>>>>>>>having done syncing (LTC) in Cubase for years, but I'm doing something
>>>>>>>horrible wrong I suspect. Word clock is also connected. So I'm not sure
>>>>>>>what's happening to make Nuendo not respond to the incoming 9-pin
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>signal.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>Does the paris/digi setup allow me to use APP or regular adat sync
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>(that
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>I'm in the dark about and assume it uses the optical conections, yes?
>>>>>>>Dunno. Am I even using the correct way of going about syncing? What do
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>I
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>need/need-to-know to make these two comps dance?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I'd sure appreciate some help getting back up and running. : )
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>jef
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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| Re: Important adat sync questions for Dave et al - woohoo! [message #66295 is a reply to message #66291] |
Fri, 07 April 2006 09:09 |
jef knight[1]
Messages: 201
Registered: October 2005
|
Senior Member |
|
|
If I go with the hdsp as clock, then the last device will be Paris,
correct? ...which I think has only In and Out, yes? Does this still apply?
EK Sound wrote:
> If the last device in the WC chain has a "loop through" jack, then
> attach a BNC connector that has a 75 Ohm 1% resistor soldered across
> it. Some devices have actual 75 Ohm termination switches on them.
>
> David.
>
> jef knight wrote:
>
>> question below
>>
>> DJ wrote:
>>
>>> Jef.....answers below:
>>> "jef knight" <thestudio@allknightmusic.com
>>> <mailto:thestudio@allknightmusic.com>> wrote in message
>>> news:443553db@linux...
>>> Geez, thanks so much for the indepth look under the hood Deej!
>>>
>>> So, if I read you correctly, I can use the clock in the hdsp via
>>> word clock right?
>>> Yes.
>>> So I need to hook up a work clock cable from the hdsp out
>>> to paris in? Do I need to terminate this?
>>> I would do it. Paris is supposed to autoterminate and the
>>> HDSP has
>>> a jumper, but I would still do it with 75ohm terminator caps.
>>>
>> just to clarify, is this like scsi termitation when I need to
>> actually cap the cable (i never trusted the dip switches) ?, in this
>> case with a T and a terminator on the "far" and of the chain on the
>> last device, or would it be a not-so-bad idea to do the hdsp end also?
>>
>> j
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> As for the settings, I had made some goofy choices in the setup of
>>> Nuendo the other day. I just now switched to the hdsp asio driver
>>> (rather than the asio multimedia driver) and sellected "asio audio
>>> card" in the sync options on the transport menu and Wa-lla! she
>>> rollin! Cool.
>>> Cool indeed!!!!
>>>
>>> I'm gonna now do the Paris setting. I have a guy coming by to demo
>>> some folk song or other, so I'll let you know tonight how it's all
>>> working out.
>>> If you're not using the RME as master clock, there's no
>>> need to
>>> change anything in Paris.
>>>
>>> jef
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> DJ wrote:
>>>
>>>> The ADAT sync being generated by Paris is dependant on the clock
>>>> signal
>>>> being received by Paris. If you are using the Paris clock, then the
>>>> HDSP
>>>> will be syncing to the Paris clock. If you're not using an external
>>>> clock,
>>>> the RME HDSP clock is probably more accurate than the Paris clock.
>>>>
>>>> If you are using more than one MEC, the best way to sync Paris to an
>>>> external clock is to distribute the RME clock with an external box
>>>> like the
>>>> Lucid CLK-6 receiving sync from the RME and then sending it to each
>>>> MEC.
>>>>
>>>> If you do this, you will need to edit your Paris.cfg file wby
>>>> adding the
>>>> following line:
>>>>
>>>> UsrHouseSync=1
>>>>
>>>> Then you will need to go into C:\\Program Files\EMU\Paris and open
>>>> Paris
>>>> from your original Paris.exe file. When the Project opens, set the
>>>> sync
>>>> source to Word Clock and the sample rate to 48kHz and name it default
>>>> project.ppj. Save this twice, once to your C:\\Program Files\EMU\Paris
>>>> directory and once to your desktop. Then reboot Paris and you will
>>>> be good
>>>> to go with a house clock. You don't need to set the house clock to
>>>> 48kHz.
>>>> Leave it at 44.1. Just open the default project.ppj, , then
>>>> navigate to your
>>>> other projects that are 44.1, open them and reset the clock source
>>>> to 44.1,
>>>> close them, reopen them and you're good. Your paris projects are
>>>> now sync'ed
>>>> to the HDSP (or other) clock.
>>>>
>>>> Now whether or not you did all of the stuff above, the HDSP should
>>>> still
>>>> sync to ADAT timecode being generated by Paris, no matter what
>>>> clock Paris
>>>> is generating, sooooo.........in Nuendo, set it to sync to
>>>> ASIO Positioning Protocall, connect a serial cable from the Paris ADAT
>>>> output to the HDSP ADAT input go into the HDSP control panel and
>>>> set it to
>>>> sync to ADAT sync hit play on the Paris C-16 and the timelines
>>>> should lock
>>>> up.
>>>>
>>>> Deej
>>>>
>>>> "jef knight" <thestudio@allknightmusic.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:44352480@linux...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> oops, sorry guys, it IS the HDSP I have in there. Now what? Should
>>>>> I set
>>>>> it to APP? Gonna try that.
>>>>>
>>>>> DJ wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> SX needs to be set to sync to ASIO positioning protocall or
>>>>>> something
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> like
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> that. I'll have to check tonight when I can get to this. I also
>>>>>> recall
>>>>>> issues with the older *digi* 96 cards not syncing to Paris. My best
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> advice
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> would be to sell the old card and get an HDSP model. These just work
>>>>>> flawlessly with no gnashing of garments, rending of teeth.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ;o)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:4433eba1$1@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Jef,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nice to see you back on the group, and in good health!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> AFAIK, the Digi series had issues with syncing using the 9 pin
>>>>>>> port.
>>>>>>> I seem to recall BT having issues with these cards and had to
>>>>>>> switch
>>>>>>> to the HDSP version. I was not succesful at getting this to
>>>>>>> work here
>>>>>>> with a Nuendo 9652 card (Digi 9652 re-badged for Steinberg) and
>>>>>>> made
>>>>>>> the switch to the HDSP version also (anyone want a cheap Nuendo
>>>>>>> 9652
>>>>>>> card? ;-). I think it had to do with either NU/Cubase software
>>>>>>> versions, or operating system... can't remember exactly what it
>>>>>>> was.
>>>>>>> Perhaps DJ has more to add here...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> David.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> jef knight wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hey guys,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well, it's been two freakin' years since I started getting sick
>>>>>>>> and it
>>>>>>>> wasn't until Nov that they figured it out 'cuz I didn't have
>>>>>>>> the one
>>>>>>>> main symptom that they look for...sheesh..dr's...
>>>>>>>> LSS...I'm back to health and feelin' great....downside - I've
>>>>>>>> had to
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>> put
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>> many things, including my music/studio endevours, on hold. Now
>>>>>>>> that I'm
>>>>>>>> back to normal I can begin again where I left off.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So where I left off was getting Nuendo (in comp 2) to slave to
>>>>>>>> Paris (
>>>>>>>> comp 1) via paris adat card and digi9652 card.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have the settings and p-bay in Paris set correctly, I'm
>>>>>>>> pretty sure,
>>>>>>>> 'cuz when I hit paris/play, the digi9652 control panel
>>>>>>>> indicates that
>>>>>>>> the sync is working and the time begins to roll in comp 2.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But Nuendo doesn't start. I've set it up the way I think it
>>>>>>>> should go,
>>>>>>>> having done syncing (LTC) in Cubase for years, but I'm doing
>>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>>> horrible wrong I suspect. Word clock is also connected. So I'm
>>>>>>>> not sure
>>>>>>>> what's happening to make Nuendo not respond to the incoming 9-pin
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> signal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Does the paris/digi setup allow me to use APP or regular adat sync
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>> (that
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm in the dark about and assume it uses the optical
>>>>>>>> conections, yes?
>>>>>>>> Dunno. Am I even using the correct way of going about syncing?
>>>>>>>> What do
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>> I
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>> need/need-to-know to make these two comps dance?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'd sure appreciate some help getting back up and running. : )
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> jef
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
|
|
|
|
| Re: Important adat sync questions for Dave et al - woohoo! [message #66296 is a reply to message #66295] |
Fri, 07 April 2006 09:14 |
EK Sound
Messages: 939
Registered: June 2005
|
Senior Member |
|
|
Yes, you would attach the terminator to the output of Paris. You
probably won't need it, but for a few bucks, it's cheap stability
insurance.
David.
jef knight wrote:
> If I go with the hdsp as clock, then the last device will be Paris,
> correct? ...which I think has only In and Out, yes? Does this still apply?
>
> EK Sound wrote:
>
>> If the last device in the WC chain has a "loop through" jack, then
>> attach a BNC connector that has a 75 Ohm 1% resistor soldered across
>> it. Some devices have actual 75 Ohm termination switches on them.
>>
>> David.
>>
>> jef knight wrote:
>>
>>> question below
>>>
>>> DJ wrote:
>>>
>>>> Jef.....answers below:
>>>> "jef knight" <thestudio@allknightmusic.com
>>>> <mailto:thestudio@allknightmusic.com>> wrote in message
>>>> news:443553db@linux...
>>>> Geez, thanks so much for the indepth look under the hood Deej!
>>>>
>>>> So, if I read you correctly, I can use the clock in the hdsp via
>>>> word clock right?
>>>> Yes.
>>>> So I need to hook up a work clock cable from the hdsp out
>>>> to paris in? Do I need to terminate this?
>>>> I would do it. Paris is supposed to autoterminate and the
>>>> HDSP has
>>>> a jumper, but I would still do it with 75ohm terminator caps.
>>>>
>>> just to clarify, is this like scsi termitation when I need to
>>> actually cap the cable (i never trusted the dip switches) ?, in this
>>> case with a T and a terminator on the "far" and of the chain on the
>>> last device, or would it be a not-so-bad idea to do the hdsp end also?
>>>
>>> j
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> As for the settings, I had made some goofy choices in the setup of
>>>> Nuendo the other day. I just now switched to the hdsp asio driver
>>>> (rather than the asio multimedia driver) and sellected "asio audio
>>>> card" in the sync options on the transport menu and Wa-lla! she
>>>> rollin! Cool.
>>>> Cool indeed!!!!
>>>>
>>>> I'm gonna now do the Paris setting. I have a guy coming by to demo
>>>> some folk song or other, so I'll let you know tonight how it's all
>>>> working out.
>>>> If you're not using the RME as master clock, there's no
>>>> need to
>>>> change anything in Paris.
>>>>
>>>> jef
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> DJ wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The ADAT sync being generated by Paris is dependant on the clock
>>>>> signal
>>>>> being received by Paris. If you are using the Paris clock, then the
>>>>> HDSP
>>>>> will be syncing to the Paris clock. If you're not using an external
>>>>> clock,
>>>>> the RME HDSP clock is probably more accurate than the Paris clock.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you are using more than one MEC, the best way to sync Paris to an
>>>>> external clock is to distribute the RME clock with an external box
>>>>> like the
>>>>> Lucid CLK-6 receiving sync from the RME and then sending it to each
>>>>> MEC.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you do this, you will need to edit your Paris.cfg file wby
>>>>> adding the
>>>>> following line:
>>>>>
>>>>> UsrHouseSync=1
>>>>>
>>>>> Then you will need to go into C:\\Program Files\EMU\Paris and open
>>>>> Paris
>>>>> from your original Paris.exe file. When the Project opens, set the
>>>>> sync
>>>>> source to Word Clock and the sample rate to 48kHz and name it default
>>>>> project.ppj. Save this twice, once to your C:\\Program Files\EMU\Paris
>>>>> directory and once to your desktop. Then reboot Paris and you will
>>>>> be good
>>>>> to go with a house clock. You don't need to set the house clock to
>>>>> 48kHz.
>>>>> Leave it at 44.1. Just open the default project.ppj, , then
>>>>> navigate to your
>>>>> other projects that are 44.1, open them and reset the clock source
>>>>> to 44.1,
>>>>> close them, reopen them and you're good. Your paris projects are
>>>>> now sync'ed
>>>>> to the HDSP (or other) clock.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now whether or not you did all of the stuff above, the HDSP should
>>>>> still
>>>>> sync to ADAT timecode being generated by Paris, no matter what
>>>>> clock Paris
>>>>> is generating, sooooo.........in Nuendo, set it to sync to
>>>>> ASIO Positioning Protocall, connect a serial cable from the Paris ADAT
>>>>> output to the HDSP ADAT input go into the HDSP control panel and
>>>>> set it to
>>>>> sync to ADAT sync hit play on the Paris C-16 and the timelines
>>>>> should lock
>>>>> up.
>>>>>
>>>>> Deej
>>>>>
>>>>> "jef knight" <thestudio@allknightmusic.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:44352480@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> oops, sorry guys, it IS the HDSP I have in there. Now what? Should
>>>>>> I set
>>>>>> it to APP? Gonna try that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> DJ wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> SX needs to be set to sync to ASIO positioning protocall or
>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> like
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> that. I'll have to check tonight when I can get to this. I also
>>>>>>> recall
>>>>>>> issues with the older *digi* 96 cards not syncing to Paris. My best
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> advice
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> would be to sell the old card and get an HDSP model. These just work
>>>>>>> flawlessly with no gnashing of garments, rending of teeth.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ;o)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:4433eba1$1@linux...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Jef,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nice to see you back on the group, and in good health!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> AFAIK, the Digi series had issues with syncing using the 9 pin
>>>>>>>> port.
>>>>>>>> I seem to recall BT having issues with these cards and had to
>>>>>>>> switch
>>>>>>>> to the HDSP version. I was not succesful at getting this to
>>>>>>>> work here
>>>>>>>> with a Nuendo 9652 card (Digi 9652 re-badged for Steinberg) and
>>>>>>>> made
>>>>>>>> the switch to the HDSP version also (anyone want a cheap Nuendo
>>>>>>>> 9652
>>>>>>>> card? ;-). I think it had to do with either NU/Cubase software
>>>>>>>> versions, or operating system... can't remember exactly what it
>>>>>>>> was.
>>>>>>>> Perhaps DJ has more to add here...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> David.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> jef knight wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hey guys,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Well, it's been two freakin' years since I started getting sick
>>>>>>>>> and it
>>>>>>>>> wasn't until Nov that they figured it out 'cuz I didn't have
>>>>>>>>> the one
>>>>>>>>> main symptom that they look for...sheesh..dr's...
>>>>>>>>> LSS...I'm back to health and feelin' great....downside - I've
>>>>>>>>> had to
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>> put
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> many things, including my music/studio endevours, on hold. Now
>>>>>>>>> that I'm
>>>>>>>>> back to normal I can begin again where I left off.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So where I left off was getting Nuendo (in comp 2) to slave to
>>>>>>>>> Paris (
>>>>>>>>> comp 1) via paris adat card and digi9652 card.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have the settings and p-bay in Paris set correctly, I'm
>>>>>>>>> pretty sure,
>>>>>>>>> 'cuz when I hit paris/play, the digi9652 control panel
>>>>>>>>> indicates that
>>>>>>>>> the sync is working and the time begins to roll in comp 2.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But Nuendo doesn't start. I've set it up the way I think it
>>>>>>>>> should go,
>>>>>>>>> having done syncing (LTC) in Cubase for years, but I'm doing
>>>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>>>> horrible wrong I suspect. Word clock is also connected. So I'm
>>>>>>>>> not sure
>>>>>>>>> what's happening to make Nuendo not respond to the incoming 9-pin
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> signal.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Does the paris/digi setup allow me to use APP or regular adat sync
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>> (that
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm in the dark about and assume it uses the optical
>>>>>>>>> conections, yes?
>>>>>>>>> Dunno. Am I even using the correct way of going about syncing?
>>>>>>>>> What do
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>> I
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> need/need-to-know to make these two comps dance?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'd sure appreciate some help getting back up and running. : )
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> jef
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
|
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| Re: Important adat sync questions for Dave et al - woohoo! [message #66301 is a reply to message #66296] |
Fri, 07 April 2006 09:59 |
Deej [1]
Messages: 2149
Registered: January 2006
|
Senior Member |
|
|
Agree.
"EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message news:4436917a@linux...
> Yes, you would attach the terminator to the output of Paris. You
> probably won't need it, but for a few bucks, it's cheap stability
> insurance.
>
> David.
>
> jef knight wrote:
> > If I go with the hdsp as clock, then the last device will be Paris,
> > correct? ...which I think has only In and Out, yes? Does this still
apply?
> >
> > EK Sound wrote:
> >
> >> If the last device in the WC chain has a "loop through" jack, then
> >> attach a BNC connector that has a 75 Ohm 1% resistor soldered across
> >> it. Some devices have actual 75 Ohm termination switches on them.
> >>
> >> David.
> >>
> >> jef knight wrote:
> >>
> >>> question below
> >>>
> >>> DJ wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Jef.....answers below:
> >>>> "jef knight" <thestudio@allknightmusic.com
> >>>> <mailto:thestudio@allknightmusic.com>> wrote in message
> >>>> news:443553db@linux...
> >>>> Geez, thanks so much for the indepth look under the hood Deej!
> >>>>
> >>>> So, if I read you correctly, I can use the clock in the hdsp via
> >>>> word clock right?
> >>>> Yes.
> >>>> So I need to hook up a work clock cable from the hdsp out
> >>>> to paris in? Do I need to terminate this?
> >>>> I would do it. Paris is supposed to autoterminate and the
> >>>> HDSP has
> >>>> a jumper, but I would still do it with 75ohm terminator caps.
> >>>>
> >>> just to clarify, is this like scsi termitation when I need to
> >>> actually cap the cable (i never trusted the dip switches) ?, in this
> >>> case with a T and a terminator on the "far" and of the chain on the
> >>> last device, or would it be a not-so-bad idea to do the hdsp end also?
> >>>
> >>> j
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> As for the settings, I had made some goofy choices in the setup
of
> >>>> Nuendo the other day. I just now switched to the hdsp asio driver
> >>>> (rather than the asio multimedia driver) and sellected "asio
audio
> >>>> card" in the sync options on the transport menu and Wa-lla! she
> >>>> rollin! Cool.
> >>>> Cool indeed!!!!
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm gonna now do the Paris setting. I have a guy coming by to
demo
> >>>> some folk song or other, so I'll let you know tonight how it's
all
> >>>> working out.
> >>>> If you're not using the RME as master clock, there's no
> >>>> need to
> >>>> change anything in Paris.
> >>>>
> >>>> jef
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> DJ wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> The ADAT sync being generated by Paris is dependant on the clock
> >>>>> signal
> >>>>> being received by Paris. If you are using the Paris clock, then the
> >>>>> HDSP
> >>>>> will be syncing to the Paris clock. If you're not using an external
> >>>>> clock,
> >>>>> the RME HDSP clock is probably more accurate than the Paris clock.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If you are using more than one MEC, the best way to sync Paris to an
> >>>>> external clock is to distribute the RME clock with an external box
> >>>>> like the
> >>>>> Lucid CLK-6 receiving sync from the RME and then sending it to each
> >>>>> MEC.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If you do this, you will need to edit your Paris.cfg file wby
> >>>>> adding the
> >>>>> following line:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> UsrHouseSync=1
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Then you will need to go into C:\\Program Files\EMU\Paris and open
> >>>>> Paris
> >>>>> from your original Paris.exe file. When the Project opens, set the
> >>>>> sync
> >>>>> source to Word Clock and the sample rate to 48kHz and name it
default
> >>>>> project.ppj. Save this twice, once to your C:\\Program
Files\EMU\Paris
> >>>>> directory and once to your desktop. Then reboot Paris and you will
> >>>>> be good
> >>>>> to go with a house clock. You don't need to set the house clock to
> >>>>> 48kHz.
> >>>>> Leave it at 44.1. Just open the default project.ppj, , then
> >>>>> navigate to your
> >>>>> other projects that are 44.1, open them and reset the clock source
> >>>>> to 44.1,
> >>>>> close them, reopen them and you're good. Your paris projects are
> >>>>> now sync'ed
> >>>>> to the HDSP (or other) clock.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Now whether or not you did all of the stuff above, the HDSP should
> >>>>> still
> >>>>> sync to ADAT timecode being generated by Paris, no matter what
> >>>>> clock Paris
> >>>>> is generating, sooooo.........in Nuendo, set it to sync to
> >>>>> ASIO Positioning Protocall, connect a serial cable from the Paris
ADAT
> >>>>> output to the HDSP ADAT input go into the HDSP control panel and
> >>>>> set it to
> >>>>> sync to ADAT sync hit play on the Paris C-16 and the timelines
> >>>>> should lock
> >>>>> up.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Deej
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "jef knight" <thestudio@allknightmusic.com> wrote in message
> >>>>> news:44352480@linux...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> oops, sorry guys, it IS the HDSP I have in there. Now what? Should
> >>>>>> I set
> >>>>>> it to APP? Gonna try that.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> DJ wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> SX needs to be set to sync to ASIO positioning protocall or
> >>>>>>> something
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> like
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> that. I'll have to check tonight when I can get to this. I also
> >>>>>>> recall
> >>>>>>> issues with the older *digi* 96 cards not syncing to Paris. My
best
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> advice
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> would be to sell the old card and get an HDSP model. These just
work
> >>>>>>> flawlessly with no gnashing of garments, rending of teeth.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ;o)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> "EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>>> news:4433eba1$1@linux...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Hi Jef,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Nice to see you back on the group, and in good health!
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> AFAIK, the Digi series had issues with syncing using the 9 pin
> >>>>>>>> port.
> >>>>>>>> I seem to recall BT having issues with these cards and had to
> >>>>>>>> switch
> >>>>>>>> to the HDSP version. I was not succesful at getting this to
> >>>>>>>> work here
> >>>>>>>> with a Nuendo 9652 card (Digi 9652 re-badged for Steinberg) and
> >>>>>>>> made
> >>>>>>>> the switch to the HDSP version also (anyone want a cheap Nuendo
> >>>>>>>> 9652
> >>>>>>>> card? ;-). I think it had to do with either NU/Cubase software
> >>>>>>>> versions, or operating system... can't remember exactly what it
> >>>>>>>> was.
> >>>>>>>> Perhaps DJ has more to add here...
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> David.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> jef knight wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Hey guys,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Well, it's been two freakin' years since I started getting sick
> >>>>>>>>> and it
> >>>>>>>>> wasn't until Nov that they figured it out 'cuz I didn't have
> >>>>>>>>> the one
> >>>>>>>>> main symptom that they look for...sheesh..dr's...
> >>>>>>>>> LSS...I'm back to health and feelin' great....downside - I've
> >>>>>>>>> had to
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>> put
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> many things, including my music/studio endevours, on hold. Now
> >>>>>>>>> that I'm
> >>>>>>>>> back to normal I can begin again where I left off.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> So where I left off was getting Nuendo (in comp 2) to slave to
> >>>>>>>>> Paris (
> >>>>>>>>> comp 1) via paris adat card and digi9652 card.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I have the settings and p-bay in Paris set correctly, I'm
> >>>>>>>>> pretty sure,
> >>>>>>>>> 'cuz when I hit paris/play, the digi9652 control panel
> >>>>>>>>> indicates that
> >>>>>>>>> the sync is working and the time begins to roll in comp 2.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> But Nuendo doesn't start. I've set it up the way I think it
> >>>>>>>>> should go,
> >>>>>>>>> having done syncing (LTC) in Cubase for years, but I'm doing
> >>>>>>>>> something
> >>>>>>>>> horrible wrong I suspect. Word clock is also connected. So I'm
> >>>>>>>>> not sure
> >>>>>>>>> what's happening to make Nuendo not respond to the incoming
9-pin
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> signal.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Does the paris/digi setup allow me to use APP or regular adat
sync
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>> (that
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I'm in the dark about and assume it uses the optical
> >>>>>>>>> conections, yes?
> >>>>>>>>> Dunno. Am I even using the correct way of going about syncing?
> >>>>>>>>> What do
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>> I
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> need/need-to-know to make these two comps dance?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I'd sure appreciate some help getting back up and running. : )
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> jef
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
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way ahead this time...got one from my tech this aft....cheers dudes....
DJ wrote:
>Agree.
>
>"EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message news:4436917a@linux...
>
>
>>Yes, you would attach the terminator to the output of Paris. You
>>probably won't need it, but for a few bucks, it's cheap stability
>>insurance.
>>
>>David.
>>
>>jef knight wrote:
>>
>>
>>>If I go with the hdsp as clock, then the last device will be Paris,
>>>correct? ...which I think has only In and Out, yes? Does this still
>>>
>>>
>apply?
>
>
>>>EK Sound wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>If the last device in the WC chain has a "loop through" jack, then
>>>>attach a BNC connector that has a 75 Ohm 1% resistor soldered across
>>>>it. Some devices have actual 75 Ohm termination switches on them.
>>>>
>>>>David.
>>>>
>>>>jef knight wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>question below
>>>>>
>>>>>DJ wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Jef.....answers below:
>>>>>> "jef knight" <thestudio@allknightmusic.com
>>>>>> <mailto:thestudio@allknightmusic.com>> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:443553db@linux...
>>>>>> Geez, thanks so much for the indepth look under the hood Deej!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, if I read you correctly, I can use the clock in the hdsp via
>>>>>> word clock right?
>>>>>> Yes.
>>>>>> So I need to hook up a work clock cable from the hdsp out
>>>>>>to paris in? Do I need to terminate this?
>>>>>> I would do it. Paris is supposed to autoterminate and the
>>>>>>HDSP has
>>>>>> a jumper, but I would still do it with 75ohm terminator caps.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>just to clarify, is this like scsi termitation when I need to
>>>>>actually cap the cable (i never trusted the dip switches) ?, in this
>>>>>case with a T and a terminator on the "far" and of the chain on the
>>>>>last device, or would it be a not-so-bad idea to do the hdsp end also?
>>>>>
>>>>>j
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> As for the settings, I had made some goofy choices in the setup
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>of
>
>
>>>>>> Nuendo the other day. I just now switched to the hdsp asio driver
>>>>>> (rather than the asio multimedia driver) and sellected "asio
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>audio
>
>
>>>>>> card" in the sync options on the transport menu and Wa-lla! she
>>>>>> rollin! Cool.
>>>>>> Cool indeed!!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm gonna now do the Paris setting. I have a guy coming by to
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>demo
>
>
>>>>>> some folk song or other, so I'll let you know tonight how it's
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>all
>
>
>>>>>> working out.
>>>>>> If you're not using the RME as master clock, there's no
>>>>>>need to
>>>>>> change anything in Paris.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> jef
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> DJ wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The ADAT sync being generated by Paris is dependant on the clock
>>>>>>>signal
>>>>>>>being received by Paris. If you are using the Paris clock, then the
>>>>>>>HDSP
>>>>>>>will be syncing to the Paris clock. If you're not using an external
>>>>>>>clock,
>>>>>>>the RME HDSP clock is probably more accurate than the Paris clock.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>If you are using more than one MEC, the best way to sync Paris to an
>>>>>>>external clock is to distribute the RME clock with an external box
>>>>>>>like the
>>>>>>>Lucid CLK-6 receiving sync from the RME and then sending it to each
>>>>>>>MEC.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>If you do this, you will need to edit your Paris.cfg file wby
>>>>>>>adding the
>>>>>>>following line:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>UsrHouseSync=1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Then you will need to go into C:\\Program Files\EMU\Paris and open
>>>>>>>Paris
>>>>>>>from your original Paris.exe file. When the Project opens, set the
>>>>>>>sync
>>>>>>>source to Word Clock and the sample rate to 48kHz and name it
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>default
>
>
>>>>>>>project.ppj. Save this twice, once to your C:\\Program
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>Files\EMU\Paris
>
>
>>>>>>>directory and once to your desktop. Then reboot Paris and you will
>>>>>>>be good
>>>>>>>to go with a house clock. You don't need to set the house clock to
>>>>>>>48kHz.
>>>>>>>Leave it at 44.1. Just open the default project.ppj, , then
>>>>>>>navigate to your
>>>>>>>other projects that are 44.1, open them and reset the clock source
>>>>>>>to 44.1,
>>>>>>>close them, reopen them and you're good. Your paris projects are
>>>>>>>now sync'ed
>>>>>>>to the HDSP (or other) clock.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Now whether or not you did all of the stuff above, the HDSP should
>>>>>>>still
>>>>>>>sync to ADAT timecode being generated by Paris, no matter what
>>>>>>>clock Paris
>>>>>>>is generating, sooooo.........in Nuendo, set it to sync to
>>>>>>>ASIO Positioning Protocall, connect a serial cable from the Paris
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>ADAT
>
>
>>>>>>>output to the HDSP ADAT input go into the HDSP control panel and
>>>>>>>set it to
>>>>>>>sync to ADAT sync hit play on the Paris C-16 and the timelines
>>>>>>>should lock
>>>>>>>up.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Deej
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"jef knight" <thestudio@allknightmusic.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:44352480@linux...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>oops, sorry guys, it IS the HDSP I have in there. Now what? Should
>>>>>>>>I set
>>>>>>>>it to APP? Gonna try that.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>DJ wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>SX needs to be set to sync to ASIO positioning protocall or
>>>>>>>>>something
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>like
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>that. I'll have to check tonight when I can get to this. I also
>>>>>>>>>recall
>>>>>>>>>issues with the older *digi* 96 cards not syncing to Paris. My
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>best
>
>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>advice
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>would be to sell the old card and get an HDSP model. These just
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>work
>
>
>>>>>>>>>flawlessly with no gnashing of garments, rending of teeth.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>;o)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>news:4433eba1$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Hi Jef,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Nice to see you back on the group, and in good health!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>AFAIK, the Digi series had issues with syncing using the 9 pin
>>>>>>>>>>port.
>>>>>>>>>>I seem to recall BT having issues with these cards and had to
>>>>>>>>>>switch
>>>>>>>>>>to the HDSP version. I was not succesful at getting this to
>>>>>>>>>>work here
>>>>>>>>>>with a Nuendo 9652 card (Digi 9652 re-badged for Steinberg) and
>>>>>>>>>>made
>>>>>>>>>>the switch to the HDSP version also (anyone want a cheap Nuendo
>>>>>>>>>>9652
>>>>>>>>>>card? ;-). I think it had to do with either NU/Cubase software
>>>>>>>>>>versions, or operating system... can't remember exactly what it
>>>>>>>>>>was.
>>>>>>>>>>Perhaps DJ has more to add here...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>David.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>jef knight wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Hey guys,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Well, it's been two freakin' years since I started getting sick
>>>>>>>>>>>and it
>>>>>>>>>>>wasn't until Nov that they figured it out 'cuz I didn't have
>>>>>>>>>>>the one
>>>>>>>>>>>main symptom that they look for...sheesh..dr's...
>>>>>>>>>>>LSS...I'm back to health and feelin' great....downside - I've
>>>>>>>>>>>had to
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>put
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>many things, including my music/studio endevours, on hold. Now
>>>>>>>>>>>that I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>back to normal I can begin again where I left off.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>So where I left off was getting Nuendo (in comp 2) to slave to
>>>>>>>>>>>Paris (
>>>>>>>>>>>comp 1) via paris adat card and digi9652 card.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>I have the settings and p-bay in Paris set correctly, I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>pretty sure,
>>>>>>>>>>>'cuz when I hit paris/play, the digi9652 control panel
>>>>>>>>>>>indicates that
>>>>>>>>>>>the sync is working and the time begins to roll in comp 2.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>But Nuendo doesn't start. I've set it up the way I think it
>>>>>>>>>>>should go,
>>>>>>>>>>>having done syncing (LTC) in Cubase for years, but I'm doing
>>>>>>>>>>>something
>>>>>>>>>>>horrible wrong I suspect. Word clock is also connected. So I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>not sure
>>>>>>>>>>>what's happening to make Nuendo not respond to the incoming
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>9-pin
>
>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>signal.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Does the paris/digi setup allow me to use APP or regular adat
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>sync
>
>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>(that
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>I'm in the dark about and assume it uses the optical
>>>>>>>>>>>conections, yes?
>>>>>>>>>>>Dunno. Am I even using the correct way of going about syncing?
>>>>>>>>>>>What do
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>need/need-to-know to make these two comps dance?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>I'd sure appreciate some help getting back up and running. : )
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>jef
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>
>
>
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way ahead this time...got one from my tech this aft....cheers dudes....<br>
<br>
DJ wrote:
<blockquote cite="mid44369cfa@linux" type="cite">
<pre wrap="">Agree.
"EK Sound" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:askme@nospam.com"><askme@nospam.com></a> wrote in message <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="news:4436917a@linux">news:4436917a@linux</a>...
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">Yes, you would attach the terminator to the output of Paris. You
probably won't need it, but for a few bucks, it's cheap stability
insurance.
David.
jef knight wrote:
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">If I go with the hdsp as clock, then the last device will be Paris,
correct? ...which I think has only In and Out, yes? Does this still
</pre>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->apply?
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">EK Sound wrote:
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">If the last device in the WC chain has a "loop through" jack, then
attach a BNC connector that has a 75 Ohm 1% resistor soldered across
it. Some devices have actual 75 Ohm termination switches on them.
David.
jef knight wrote:
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">question below
DJ wrote:
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap=""> Jef.....answers below:
"jef knight" <<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:thestudio@allknightmusic.com">thestudio@allknightmusic.com</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:thestudio@allknightmusic.com"><mailto:thestudio@allknightmusic.com></a>> wrote in message
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="news:443553db@linux">news:443553db@linux</a>...
Geez, thanks so much for the indepth look under the hood Deej!
So, if I read you correctly, I can use the clock in the hdsp via
word clock right?
Yes.
So I need to hook up a work clock cable from the hdsp out
to paris in? Do I need to terminate this?
I would do it. Paris is supposed to autoterminate and the
HDSP has
a jumper, but I would still do it with 75ohm terminator caps.
</pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap="">just to clarify, is this like scsi termitation when I need to
actually cap the cable (i never trusted the dip switches) ?, in this
case with a T and a terminator on the "far" and of the chain on the
last device, or would it be a not-so-bad idea to do the hdsp end also?
j
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">
As for the settings, I had made some goofy choices in the setup
</pre>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->of
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap=""> Nuendo the other day. I just now switched to the hdsp asio driver
(rather than the asio multimedia driver) and sellected "asio
</pre>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->audio
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap=""> card" in the sync options on the transport menu and Wa-lla! she
rollin! Cool.
Cool indeed!!!!
I'm gonna now do the Paris setting. I have a guy coming by to
</pre>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->demo
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap=""> some folk song or other, so I'll let you know tonight how it's
</pre>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->all
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap=""> working out.
If you're not using the RME as master clock, there's no
need to
change anything in Paris.
jef
DJ wrote:
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">The ADAT sync being generated by Paris is dependant on the clock
signal
being received by Paris. If you are using the Paris clock, then the
HDSP
will be syncing to the Paris clock. If you're not using an external
clock,
the RME HDSP clock is probably more accurate than the Paris clock.
If you are using more than one MEC, the best way to sync Paris to an
external clock is to distribute the RME clock with an external box
like the
Lucid CLK-6 receiving sync from the RME and then sending it to each
MEC.
If you do this, you will need to edit your Paris.cfg file wby
adding the
following line:
UsrHouseSync=1
Then you will need to go into C:\\Program Files\EMU\Paris and open
Paris
from your original Paris.exe file. When the Project opens, set the
sync
source to Word Clock and the sample rate to 48kHz and name it
</pre>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->default
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">project.ppj. Save this twice, once to your C:\\Program
</pre>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->Files\EMU\Paris
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">directory and once to your desktop. Then reboot Paris and you will
be good
to go with a house clock. You don't need to set the house clock to
48kHz.
Leave it at 44.1. Just open the default project.ppj, , then
navigate to your
other projects that are 44.1, open them and reset the clock source
to 44.1,
close them, reopen them and you're good. Your paris projects are
now sync'ed
to the HDSP (or other) clock.
Now whether or not you did all of the stuff above, the HDSP should
still
sync to ADAT timecode being generated by Paris, no matter what
clock Paris
is generating, sooooo.........in Nuendo, set it to sync to
ASIO Positioning Protocall, connect a serial cable from the Paris
</pre>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->ADAT
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">output to the HDSP ADAT input go into the HDSP control panel and
set it to
sync to ADAT sync hit play on the Paris C-16 and the timelines
should lock
up.
Deej
"jef knight" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:thestudio@allknightmusic.com"><thestudio@allknightmusic.com></a> wrote in message
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="news:44352480@linux">news:44352480@linux</a>...
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">oops, sorry guys, it IS the HDSP I have in there. Now what? Should
I set
it to APP? Gonna try that.
DJ wrote:
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">SX needs to be set to sync to ASIO positioning protocall or
something
</pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap="">
</pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap="">like
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">that. I'll have to check tonight when I can get to this. I also
recall
issues with the older *digi* 96 cards not syncing to Paris. My
</pre>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->best
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">
</pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap="">advice
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">would be to sell the old card and get an HDSP model. These just
</pre>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->work
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">flawlessly with no gnashing of garments, rending of teeth.
;o)
"EK Sound" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:askme@nospam.com"><askme@nospam.com></a> wrote in message
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="news:4433eba1$1@linux">news:4433eba1$1@linux</a>...
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">Hi Jef,
Nice to see you back on the group, and in good health!
AFAIK, the Digi series had issues with syncing using the 9 pin
port.
I seem to recall BT having issues with these cards and had to
switch
to the HDSP version. I was not succesful at getting this to
work here
with a Nuendo 9652 card (Digi 9652 re-badged for Steinberg) and
made
the switch to the HDSP version also (anyone want a cheap Nuendo
9652
card? ;-). I think it had to do with either NU/Cubase software
versions, or operating system... can't remember exactly what it
was.
Perhaps DJ has more to add here...
Regards,
David.
jef knight wrote:
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">Hey guys,
Well, it's been two freakin' years since I started getting sick
and it
wasn't until Nov that they figured it out 'cuz I didn't have
the one
main symptom that they look for...sheesh..dr's...
LSS...I'm back to health and feelin' great....downside - I've
had to
</pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap="">
</pre>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap="">put
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">many things, including my music/studio endevours, on hold. Now
that I'm
back to normal I can begin again where I left off.
So where I left off was getting Nuendo (in comp 2) to slave to
Paris (
comp 1) via paris adat card and digi9652 card.
I have the settings and p-bay in Paris set correctly, I'm
pretty sure,
'cuz when I hit paris/play, the digi9652 control panel
indicates that
the sync is working and the time begins to roll in comp 2.
But Nuendo doesn't start. I've set it up the way I think it
should go,
having done syncing (LTC) in Cubase for years, but I'm doing
something
horrible wrong I suspect. Word clock is also connected. So I'm
not sure
what's happening to make Nuendo not respond to the incoming
</pre>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->9-pin
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">
</pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap="">
</pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap="">signal.
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">Does the paris/digi setup allow me to use APP or regular adat
</pre>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->sync
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">
</pre>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap="">(that
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">I'm in the dark about and assume it uses the optical
conections, yes?
Dunno. Am I even using the correct way of going about syncing?
What do
</pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap="">
</pre>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap="">I
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">need/need-to-know to make these two comps dance?
I'd sure appreciate some help getting back up and running. : )
jef
</pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap="">
</pre>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap="">
</pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap="">
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