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Fri, 02 March 2007 17:56

Gantt Kushner

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Registered: June 2006
Location: Silver Spring, Maryland, ...

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I contacted our local Digidesign dealer (Washington Professional Systems)
to see what a PT HD system that was more or less comparable to my Paris setup
would cost. $30K - $35K for an HD 3 system w/ Control 24 and 24 channels
of I/O. Plus a new G5, peripherals and plugins.

Whew.

Gantt Kushner
Gizmo Recording Company
Silver Spring, MD
www.gizmorecording.com

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Re: Just for grins... [message #81047 is a reply to message #81041]

Fri, 02 March 2007 20:02

chuck duffy
Messages: 453
Registered: July 2005

Senior Member

Gantt,

It seems pretty high, but remember that a 3 bundle paris rig with 3 8ins
and 3 8outs cost around 12K nearly 10 years ago. The reason HD3 rigs seem
so outrageously priced to us paris folks must have to do with the insanely
low blowout paris pricing that came later. Also remember that the mac cost
pretty close to 5K for a high end model :-)

You've seen the control 24 right? I mean that's 8000 of the PT price right
there. There's just no way to compare a couple of lame $200 C16s to control
24 in features or quality :-)

Yeah it's pricy, but there's no logic way to compare a paris rig to an HD3
rig feature for feature.

Chuck

"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>I contacted our local Digidesign dealer (Washington Professional Systems)
>to see what a PT HD system that was more or less comparable to my Paris
setup
>would cost. $30K - $35K for an HD 3 system w/ Control 24 and 24 channels
>of I/O. Plus a new G5, peripherals and plugins.
>
>Whew.

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Re: Just for grins... [message #81049 is a reply to message #81047]

Fri, 02 March 2007 20:17

Neil
Messages: 1645
Registered: April 2006

Senior Member

Chuckster, very true... but it's still about $10k minimum to
get into a HD system - that's what it'd run, street price, for
a single core card (NO Accel card) and a 96i/o (NOT the 192
i/o).

If it were half that for a core card & a 192i/o, I'd be there.

Neil

"chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>
>Gantt,
>
>It seems pretty high, but remember that a 3 bundle paris rig with 3 8ins
>and 3 8outs cost around 12K nearly 10 years ago. The reason HD3 rigs seem
>so outrageously priced to us paris folks must have to do with the insanely
>low blowout paris pricing that came later. Also remember that the mac cost
>pretty close to 5K for a high end model :-)
>
>You've seen the control 24 right? I mean that's 8000 of the PT price right
>there. There's just no way to compare a couple of lame $200 C16s to control
>24 in features or quality :-)
>
>Yeah it's pricy, but there's no logic way to compare a paris rig to an HD3
>rig feature for feature.
>
>Chuck
>
>
>
>"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>I contacted our local Digidesign dealer (Washington Professional Systems)
>>to see what a PT HD system that was more or less comparable to my Paris
>setup
>>would cost. $30K - $35K for an HD 3 system w/ Control 24 and 24 channels
>>of I/O. Plus a new G5, peripherals and plugins.
>>
>>Whew.
>

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Re: Just for grins... [message #81053 is a reply to message #81047]

Fri, 02 March 2007 21:23

dc[3]
Messages: 895
Registered: September 2005

Senior Member

"chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:

>
>You've seen the control 24 right? I mean that's 8000 of the PT price right
>there. There's just no way to compare a couple of lame $200 C16s to control
>24 in features or quality :-)

You know what's weird about that thing? No convertors. A Control 24 is
essentially an analog mixer combined with a transport control and you
can use it to control the mixer faders in PT. You must buy PT I/O's for
every input you use the Control 24 for... Also, the PT cards do not send
audio to a Control 24, so again, you must use an expensive I/O box to get
back to the Control 24 to monitor. Also, the Control 24 CR feeds are
lousy sounding! My client that I built the PT room for has to use them
for surround, but if you just patch a passive attenuator between the
192 I/O and the L-R monitors, the sound improves noticeably, and of
course you can't control your CR level with the Control 24 any more...

Very strange, and Digi does not say much about all this unless you really
dig around on the site.

I'm staying with ole tired Paris. Still sounds great.

DC

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