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PAF support in REAPER in final testing now (PARIS/REAPER testers probably needed soon!) [message #102789]

Wed, 11 March 2009 09:39

kerryg

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http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=33102

From REAPER developer Xenakios:

Quote:

1) ... I might be very close in succeeding to add Paris audio file support via an extension plugin. I can already import the files into Reaper, and a new item of correct length is created, as well as the item source file properties show correct looking values. I'd really appreciate some genuine Paris created .paf files now... Hopefully I get audio playback and peaks displays to work soon too.

edit : peaks displays and audio playback work now. So what this actually turned out to be is on-the-fly support for .paf in Reaper (among some other potential audio file formats like Sound Designer 2). Nothing needs to be immediately converted etc to play the .paf files in Reaper. However, the performance may not optimal, so possibly using glue etc might be needed for big projects.

edit2 : unfortunately this exists only for Windows at the moment. However, not much platform spesific code is in the plugin so I might be able to compile relatively easily for OS-X once I get to an OS-X machine.

edit3 : the code has some problems with audio that needs to be resampled by Reaper. But if no resampling needs to happen for the audio, things seem to work quite fine.

A few hours later:

Quote:

I just need them to verify things really work. I am using libsndfile and to test this I converted some wavs and flacs to .paf using libsndfile's tools. Quite obviously libsndfile will handle files it has itself created...

I think I also got the resampling issue solved.

It must be pointed out that this is within *three days of the community asking for it*, by the way. Big kudos to the REAPER gang!

"... being bitter is like swallowing poison and waiting for the other guy to die..." - anon

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Re: PAF support in REAPER in final testing now (PARIS/REAPER testers probably needed soon!) [message #102790 is a reply to message #102789]

Wed, 11 March 2009 10:08

Aaron Allen

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man, those guys rock!
AA

"Administrator" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
news:49b7ee1a$1@linux...
> http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=33102
>
> From REAPER developer Xenakios:
> Quote:
>> 1) ... I might be very close in succeeding to add Paris audio file
>> support via an extension plugin. I can already import the files into
>> Reaper, and a new item of correct length is created, as well as the item
>> source file properties show correct looking values. I'd really appreciate
>> some genuine Paris created .paf files now... Hopefully I get audio
>> playback and peaks displays to work soon too. edit : peaks displays and
>> audio playback work now. So what this actually turned out to be is
>> on-the-fly support for .paf in Reaper (among some other potential audio
>> file formats like Sound Designer 2). Nothing needs to be immediately
>> converted etc to play the .paf files in Reaper. However, the performance
>> may not optimal, so possibly using glue etc might be needed for big
>> projects.
>>
>> edit2 : unfortunately this exists only for Windows at the moment.
>> However, not much platform spesific code is in the plugin so I might be
>> able to compile relatively easily for OS-X once I get to an OS-X machine.
>>
>> edit3 : the code has some problems with audio that needs to be resampled
>> by Reaper. But if no resampling needs to happen for the audio, things
>> seem to work quite fine.
>
>
> A few hours later:
>
> Quote:
>> I just need them to verify things really work. I am using libsndfile and
>> to test this I converted some wavs and flacs to .paf using libsndfile's
>> tools. Quite obviously libsndfile will handle files it has itself
>> created... I think I also got the resampling issue solved.
>
>
> It must be pointed out that this is within *three days of the community
> asking for it*, by the way. Big kudos to the REAPER gang!.
>
>
> --------------------------
> :: [ posted via the PARISForums ] ::
> :: kerrygalloway.com/ParisForums/ ::
> --------------------------

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Re: PAF support in REAPER in final testing now (PARIS/REAPER testers probably needed soon!) [message #102791 is a reply to message #102790]

Tue, 10 March 2009 12:06

Tom Bruhl

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I wish I didn't spend so much money on Cubase . . .

Sounds fantastic!

T.

"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
news:49b7f4d4@linux...
> man, those guys rock!
> AA
>
> "Administrator" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
> news:49b7ee1a$1@linux...
>> http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=33102
>>
>> From REAPER developer Xenakios:
>> Quote:
>>> 1) ... I might be very close in succeeding to add Paris audio file
>>> support via an extension plugin. I can already import the files into
>>> Reaper, and a new item of correct length is created, as well as the item
>>> source file properties show correct looking values. I'd really
>>> appreciate some genuine Paris created .paf files now... Hopefully I get
>>> audio playback and peaks displays to work soon too. edit : peaks
>>> displays and audio playback work now. So what this actually turned out
>>> to be is on-the-fly support for .paf in Reaper (among some other
>>> potential audio file formats like Sound Designer 2). Nothing needs to be
>>> immediately converted etc to play the .paf files in Reaper. However, the
>>> performance may not optimal, so possibly using glue etc might be needed
>>> for big projects.
>>>
>>> edit2 : unfortunately this exists only for Windows at the moment.
>>> However, not much platform spesific code is in the plugin so I might be
>>> able to compile relatively easily for OS-X once I get to an OS-X
>>> machine.
>>>
>>> edit3 : the code has some problems with audio that needs to be resampled
>>> by Reaper. But if no resampling needs to happen for the audio, things
>>> seem to work quite fine.
>>
>>
>> A few hours later:
>>
>> Quote:
>>> I just need them to verify things really work. I am using libsndfile and
>>> to test this I converted some wavs and flacs to .paf using libsndfile's
>>> tools. Quite obviously libsndfile will handle files it has itself
>>> created... I think I also got the resampling issue solved.
>>
>>
>> It must be pointed out that this is within *three days of the community
>> asking for it*, by the way. Big kudos to the REAPER gang!.
>>
>>
>> --------------------------
>> :: [ posted via the PARISForums ] ::
>> :: kerrygalloway.com/ParisForums/ ::
>> --------------------------
>
>

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Re: PAF support in REAPER in final testing now (PARIS/REAPER testers probably needed soon!) [message #102792 is a reply to message #102789]

Wed, 11 March 2009 11:49

excelav

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Location: Metro Detroit

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Hey Kerry, did you give the Reaper guys copies of the Mac PAF and PPJ files?
There having some troubles.

Administrator <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=33102
>
>From REAPER developer Xenakios:
>
>Quote:
>> 1) ... I might be very close in succeeding to add Paris audio file support
via an
>extension plugin. I can already import the files into Reaper, and a new
item of correct
>length is created, as well as the item source file properties show correct
looking
>values. I'd really appreciate some genuine Paris created .paf files now...
Hopefully
>I get audio playback and peaks displays to work soon too.
>>
>> edit : peaks displays and audio playback work now. So what this actually
turned out
>to be is on-the-fly support for .paf in Reaper (among some other potential
audio file
>formats like Sound Designer 2). Nothing needs to be immediately converted
etc to play
>the .paf files in Reaper. However, the performance may not optimal, so possibly
using
>glue etc might be needed for big projects.
>>
>> edit2 : unfortunately this exists only for Windows at the moment. However,
not much
>platform spesific code is in the plugin so I might be able to compile relatively
easily
>for OS-X once I get to an OS-X machine.
>>
>> edit3 : the code has some problems with audio that needs to be resampled
by Reaper.
>But if no resampling needs to happen for the audio, things seem to work
quite fine.
>
>
>A few hours later:
>
>Quote:
>> I just need them to verify things really work. I am using libsndfile and
to test this
>I converted some wavs and flacs to .paf using libsndfile's tools. Quite
obviously libsndfile
>will handle files it has itself created...
>>
>> I think I also got the resampling issue solved.
>
>
>It must be pointed out that this is within *three days of the community
asking for it*,
>by the way. Big kudos to the REAPER gang!.
>
>
>--------------------------
>:: [ posted via the PARISForums ] ::
>:: kerrygalloway.com/ParisForums/ ::
>--------------------------

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Re: PAF support in REAPER in final testing now (PARIS/REAPER testers probably needed soon!) [message #102794 is a reply to message #102789]

Wed, 11 March 2009 12:08

dnafe

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I should be able to run a thorough test on these in my laptop here as all my
Paf files are now on an portable HD while my Paris rig get rebuilt.

Don

"Administrator" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
news:49b7ee1a$1@linux...
> http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=33102
>
> From REAPER developer Xenakios:
> Quote:
>> 1) ... I might be very close in succeeding to add Paris audio file
>> support via an extension plugin. I can already import the files into
>> Reaper, and a new item of correct length is created, as well as the item
>> source file properties show correct looking values. I'd really appreciate
>> some genuine Paris created .paf files now... Hopefully I get audio
>> playback and peaks displays to work soon too. edit : peaks displays and
>> audio playback work now. So what this actually turned out to be is
>> on-the-fly support for .paf in Reaper (among some other potential audio
>> file formats like Sound Designer 2). Nothing needs to be immediately
>> converted etc to play the .paf files in Reaper. However, the performance
>> may not optimal, so possibly using glue etc might be needed for big
>> projects.
>>
>> edit2 : unfortunately this exists only for Windows at the moment.
>> However, not much platform spesific code is in the plugin so I might be
>> able to compile relatively easily for OS-X once I get to an OS-X machine.
>>
>> edit3 : the code has some problems with audio that needs to be resampled
>> by Reaper. But if no resampling needs to happen for the audio, things
>> seem to work quite fine.
>
>
> A few hours later:
>
> Quote:
>> I just need them to verify things really work. I am using libsndfile and
>> to test this I converted some wavs and flacs to .paf using libsndfile's
>> tools. Quite obviously libsndfile will handle files it has itself
>> created... I think I also got the resampling issue solved.
>
>
> It must be pointed out that this is within *three days of the community
> asking for it*, by the way. Big kudos to the REAPER gang!.
>
>
> --------------------------
> :: [ posted via the PARISForums ] ::
> :: kerrygalloway.com/ParisForums/ ::
> --------------------------

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Re: PAF support in REAPER in final testing now (PARIS/REAPER testers probably needed soon!) [message #102795 is a reply to message #102792]

Wed, 11 March 2009 13:00

kerryg

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James McCloskey wrote on Wed, 11 March 2009 14:49

Hey Kerry, did you give the Reaper guys copies of the Mac PAF and PPJ files?
There having some troubles.

I did indeed, James, and they're on it. I think we could see something in the way of a testable extension pretty fast.

- K

"... being bitter is like swallowing poison and waiting for the other guy to die..." - anon

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