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All,
Happy New Year!!
This is my 1st attempt at a live drum recording.
I have always used Drumagog and electronic samples in the past.
This is a cheap TAMA kit setup with....
Kick =3D open front
Snare =3D Steel (I dont know maybe 5 or 6 inch deep N'Dugu signature =
series)
Zildgen =3D Dark crash, Dark Ride, Dark HiHat
Tom =3D 11 or 12 inch with bottom head
Floor Tom =3D without bottom head
1 - AKG414 in Cardiod w/20db pad laying on blanket inside the Kick.
1 - SM57 in the usual spot on the top of the snare.
2 - Matched pair Rode NT5s in a XY stereo configuration...3 feet above =
the cymbals centered between the Ride and the Crash...directly above the =
Tom.
I applied EQ and compression to the Kick and Snare tracks. The =
compression is a typical
3.99:1 ratio with 20ms attack and 50ms release. Using Waves C1 =
compressor.
Also I applied a PARIS Gate on both tracks.
I scooped out the lows and mids of the OHs just allowing the meat of the =
snare back in.
I gave a couple db to the highs and compressed it using the same =
settings as on the other tracks, but with a 26ms attack.
I then mixed all the tracks together to taste.
The room was very live...hardwood floors and vaulted ceiling.
No attempt at Isolation.
I am pleased with the seemingly even cymbals/hat.
The Kick doesnt quite have the snap I would like, but I was using a felt =
beater. Also my technique SUCKs...Can you hear the beater roll on the =
head?
I leave the beater up after I kick which greatly reduces punch of the =
kick.
The snare I am not pleased with. I really dont like the snare itself. =
Dont like its sound. This snare actually sounds better tuned like a =
piccalo.
Critques are very Welcome!!
Thanks Again!
Brandon
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live drum=20
recording.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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New Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I have always used Drumagog and =
electronic=20
samples in the past.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">This is a cheap TAMA kit setup=20
with....</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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front</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Snare =3D Steel (I dont know =
maybe 5 or 6=20
inch deep N'Dugu signature series)</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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Ride, Dark=20
HiHat</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Tom =3D 11 or 12 inch with =
bottom=20
head</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Floor Tom =3D without bottom=20
head</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">1 - AKG414 in Cardiod w/20db =
pad laying on=20
blanket inside the Kick.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">1 - SM57 in the usual spot on =
the top of=20
the snare.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">2 - Matched pair Rode NT5s in a =
XY stereo=20
configuration...3 feet above the cymbals centered between the Ride and =
the=20
Crash...directly above the Tom.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I applied EQ and compression to =
the Kick=20
and Snare tracks. The compression is a typical</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">3.99:1 ratio with 20ms attack =
and 50ms=20
release. Using Waves C1 compressor.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Also I applied a PARIS Gate on =
both=20
tracks.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I scooped out the lows and mids =
of the OHs=20
just allowing the meat of the snare back in.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I gave a couple db to the highs =
and=20
compressed it using the same settings as on the other tracks, but with a =
26ms=20
attack.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I then mixed all the tracks =
together to=20
taste.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">The room was very =
live...hardwood floors=20
and vaulted ceiling.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">No attempt at=20
Isolation.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I am pleased with the seemingly =
even=20
cymbals/hat.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">The Kick doesnt quite have the =
snap I would=20
like, but I was using a felt beater. Also my technique SUCKs...Can you =
hear the=20
beater roll on the head?</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I leave the beater up after I =
kick which=20
greatly reduces punch of the kick.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">The snare I am not pleased =
with. I really=20
dont like the snare itself. Dont like its sound. This snare actually =
sounds=20
better tuned like a piccalo.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
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size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Critques are very=20
Welcome!!</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
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size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Thanks =
Again!</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
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size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
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