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Integrating UAD Cards into Paris [message #103181]

Wed, 22 April 2009 03:30

dnafe

Messages: 390
Registered: February 2009

Senior Member

Hi all

Well it appears out little experiment of building one computer to house two
EDS cards and two UAD-1e cards has worked (I think)

Never having used UAD cards before here's what happens when I click on a
plug in the native drop down menu....

What I get is a big brown horizontal window with the plug-in GUI (is that
the right word) imbedded in theft side of that brown window. And on the
right side of the window are two places to load/save/delete etc. user
presets.

I can load up factory presets but none of the knobs change their position
but the sound does change.

So here are my questions

1) is this GUI I'm getting normal

2) Is there a better was to integrate the cards? i.e. Using an Expansion
wrapper / FFX4 / Chainer / faderworks / sampleslide etc (things I've heard
about but didn't really take notice of)....and if so will that allow me to
see the changes made to the controls when loading the factory presets.

3) What about Compensating for delay ? What's the basic delay compensation
I should use...right now I'm ballparking at roughly at somewhere around
375ms (if I remember correctly) using paris nudges...definitely less than
400 ms.

4) what about configuring the cards themselves...any tricks?

I guess that's it for now but I'm sure I'll have more questions as things
progress

Thanks for reading.

Don

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Re: Integrating UAD Cards into Paris [message #103182 is a reply to message #103181]

Wed, 22 April 2009 05:47

Aaron Allen

Messages: 1988
Registered: May 2008

Senior Member

You gotta use a wrapper bro - I used the FXpansion one. And, get used to
mind numbing latency manuallly compensated math. You'll love what it does to
the sounds though it's a PITA.

AA

"Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> wrote in message news:49eef7ba@linux...
> Hi all
>
> Well it appears out little experiment of building one computer to house
> two EDS cards and two UAD-1e cards has worked (I think)
>
> Never having used UAD cards before here's what happens when I click on a
> plug in the native drop down menu....
>
> What I get is a big brown horizontal window with the plug-in GUI (is that
> the right word) imbedded in theft side of that brown window. And on the
> right side of the window are two places to load/save/delete etc. user
> presets.
>
> I can load up factory presets but none of the knobs change their position
> but the sound does change.
>
> So here are my questions
>
> 1) is this GUI I'm getting normal
>
> 2) Is there a better was to integrate the cards? i.e. Using an Expansion
> wrapper / FFX4 / Chainer / faderworks / sampleslide etc (things I've heard
> about but didn't really take notice of)....and if so will that allow me to
> see the changes made to the controls when loading the factory presets.
>
> 3) What about Compensating for delay ? What's the basic delay
> compensation I should use...right now I'm ballparking at roughly at
> somewhere around 375ms (if I remember correctly) using paris
> nudges...definitely less than 400 ms.
>
> 4) what about configuring the cards themselves...any tricks?
>
> I guess that's it for now but I'm sure I'll have more questions as things
> progress
>
> Thanks for reading.
>
> Don
>
>
>

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Re: Integrating UAD Cards into Paris [message #103183 is a reply to message #103182]

Wed, 22 April 2009 07:12

Tom Bruhl

Messages: 1368
Registered: June 2007

Senior Member

Don,

Use Faderworks and you'll never think numbers again.
Best thing we have going and it's a single click for all effects
being compensated for. I'll send you my preset for 44.1
which covers all the UAD and many others including Paris.
You'll have to buy Faderworks though.
http://www.vertexdsp.com/products_faderworks.html

Only bitch is if you're mixing using plugs and you want to overdub
more audio. You'll need to bypass all effects to keep everything
lined up.

I still love it though!
Tom

"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
news:49ef17bd@linux...
> You gotta use a wrapper bro - I used the FXpansion one. And, get used to
> mind numbing latency manuallly compensated math. You'll love what it does
> to the sounds though it's a PITA.
>
> AA
>
>
> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> wrote in message news:49eef7ba@linux...
>> Hi all
>>
>> Well it appears out little experiment of building one computer to house
>> two EDS cards and two UAD-1e cards has worked (I think)
>>
>> Never having used UAD cards before here's what happens when I click on a
>> plug in the native drop down menu....
>>
>> What I get is a big brown horizontal window with the plug-in GUI (is that
>> the right word) imbedded in theft side of that brown window. And on the
>> right side of the window are two places to load/save/delete etc. user
>> presets.
>>
>> I can load up factory presets but none of the knobs change their position
>> but the sound does change.
>>
>> So here are my questions
>>
>> 1) is this GUI I'm getting normal
>>
>> 2) Is there a better was to integrate the cards? i.e. Using an Expansion
>> wrapper / FFX4 / Chainer / faderworks / sampleslide etc (things I've
>> heard about but didn't really take notice of)....and if so will that
>> allow me to see the changes made to the controls when loading the factory
>> presets.
>>
>> 3) What about Compensating for delay ? What's the basic delay
>> compensation I should use...right now I'm ballparking at roughly at
>> somewhere around 375ms (if I remember correctly) using paris
>> nudges...definitely less than 400 ms.
>>
>> 4) what about configuring the cards themselves...any tricks?
>>
>> I guess that's it for now but I'm sure I'll have more questions as things
>> progress
>>
>> Thanks for reading.
>>
>> Don
>>
>>
>>
>
>

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Re: Integrating UAD Cards into Paris [message #103184 is a reply to message #103182]

Wed, 22 April 2009 08:18

Rod Lincoln
Messages: 883
Registered: September 2005

Senior Member

HA...not so bad really, unless you get into stuff like you were Aaron....cross
submix phase dependant parallel compression. ;-)
say that 3 times fast!

"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>You gotta use a wrapper bro - I used the FXpansion one. And, get used to

>mind numbing latency manuallly compensated math. You'll love what it does
to
>the sounds though it's a PITA.
>
>AA
>
>
>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> wrote in message news:49eef7ba@linux...
>> Hi all
>>
>> Well it appears out little experiment of building one computer to house

>> two EDS cards and two UAD-1e cards has worked (I think)
>>
>> Never having used UAD cards before here's what happens when I click on
a
>> plug in the native drop down menu....
>>
>> What I get is a big brown horizontal window with the plug-in GUI (is that

>> the right word) imbedded in theft side of that brown window. And on the

>> right side of the window are two places to load/save/delete etc. user

>> presets.
>>
>> I can load up factory presets but none of the knobs change their position

>> but the sound does change.
>>
>> So here are my questions
>>
>> 1) is this GUI I'm getting normal
>>
>> 2) Is there a better was to integrate the cards? i.e. Using an Expansion

>> wrapper / FFX4 / Chainer / faderworks / sampleslide etc (things I've heard

>> about but didn't really take notice of)....and if so will that allow me
to
>> see the changes made to the controls when loading the factory presets.
>>
>> 3) What about Compensating for delay ? What's the basic delay
>> compensation I should use...right now I'm ballparking at roughly at
>> somewhere around 375ms (if I remember correctly) using paris
>> nudges...definitely less than 400 ms.
>>
>> 4) what about configuring the cards themselves...any tricks?
>>
>> I guess that's it for now but I'm sure I'll have more questions as things

>> progress
>>
>> Thanks for reading.
>>
>> Don
>>
>>
>>
>
>

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Re: Integrating UAD Cards into Paris [message #103187 is a reply to message #103184]

Wed, 22 April 2009 11:08

dnafe

Messages: 390
Registered: February 2009

Senior Member

Could you email me Rod

Have an amplitube question for you

thanks

Don

"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:49ef3b0f$1@linux...
>
> HA...not so bad really, unless you get into stuff like you were
> Aaron....cross
> submix phase dependant parallel compression. ;-)
> say that 3 times fast!
>
>
> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>You gotta use a wrapper bro - I used the FXpansion one. And, get used to
>
>>mind numbing latency manuallly compensated math. You'll love what it does
> to
>>the sounds though it's a PITA.
>>
>>AA
>>
>>
>>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> wrote in message news:49eef7ba@linux...
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>> Well it appears out little experiment of building one computer to house
>
>>> two EDS cards and two UAD-1e cards has worked (I think)
>>>
>>> Never having used UAD cards before here's what happens when I click on
> a
>>> plug in the native drop down menu....
>>>
>>> What I get is a big brown horizontal window with the plug-in GUI (is
>>> that
>
>>> the right word) imbedded in theft side of that brown window. And on the
>
>>> right side of the window are two places to load/save/delete etc. user
>
>>> presets.
>>>
>>> I can load up factory presets but none of the knobs change their
>>> position
>
>>> but the sound does change.
>>>
>>> So here are my questions
>>>
>>> 1) is this GUI I'm getting normal
>>>
>>> 2) Is there a better was to integrate the cards? i.e. Using an Expansion
>
>>> wrapper / FFX4 / Chainer / faderworks / sampleslide etc (things I've
>>> heard
>
>>> about but didn't really take notice of)....and if so will that allow me
> to
>>> see the changes made to the controls when loading the factory presets.
>>>
>>> 3) What about Compensating for delay ? What's the basic delay
>>> compensation I should use...right now I'm ballparking at roughly at
>>> somewhere around 375ms (if I remember correctly) using paris
>>> nudges...definitely less than 400 ms.
>>>
>>> 4) what about configuring the cards themselves...any tricks?
>>>
>>> I guess that's it for now but I'm sure I'll have more questions as
>>> things
>
>>> progress
>>>
>>> Thanks for reading.
>>>
>>> Don
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

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Re: Integrating UAD Cards into Paris [message #103188 is a reply to message #103183]

Wed, 22 April 2009 11:08

dnafe

Messages: 390
Registered: February 2009

Senior Member

Are you using a wrapper Tom?

"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:49ef2b79@linux...
> Don,
>
> Use Faderworks and you'll never think numbers again.
> Best thing we have going and it's a single click for all effects
> being compensated for. I'll send you my preset for 44.1
> which covers all the UAD and many others including Paris.
> You'll have to buy Faderworks though.
> http://www.vertexdsp.com/products_faderworks.html
>
> Only bitch is if you're mixing using plugs and you want to overdub
> more audio. You'll need to bypass all effects to keep everything
> lined up.
>
> I still love it though!
> Tom
>
>
>
>
> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
> news:49ef17bd@linux...
>> You gotta use a wrapper bro - I used the FXpansion one. And, get used to
>> mind numbing latency manuallly compensated math. You'll love what it does
>> to the sounds though it's a PITA.
>>
>> AA
>>
>>
>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> wrote in message news:49eef7ba@linux...
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>> Well it appears out little experiment of building one computer to house
>>> two EDS cards and two UAD-1e cards has worked (I think)
>>>
>>> Never having used UAD cards before here's what happens when I click on a
>>> plug in the native drop down menu....
>>>
>>> What I get is a big brown horizontal window with the plug-in GUI (is
>>> that the right word) imbedded in theft side of that brown window. And on
>>> the right side of the window are two places to load/save/delete etc.
>>> user presets.
>>>
>>> I can load up factory presets but none of the knobs change their
>>> position but the sound does change.
>>>
>>> So here are my questions
>>>
>>> 1) is this GUI I'm getting normal
>>>
>>> 2) Is there a better was to integrate the cards? i.e. Using an Expansion
>>> wrapper / FFX4 / Chainer / faderworks / sampleslide etc (things I've
>>> heard about but didn't really take notice of)....and if so will that
>>> allow me to see the changes made to the controls when loading the
>>> factory presets.
>>>
>>> 3) What about Compensating for delay ? What's the basic delay
>>> compensation I should use...right now I'm ballparking at roughly at
>>> somewhere around 375ms (if I remember correctly) using paris
>>> nudges...definitely less than 400 ms.
>>>
>>> 4) what about configuring the cards themselves...any tricks?
>>>
>>> I guess that's it for now but I'm sure I'll have more questions as
>>> things progress
>>>
>>> Thanks for reading.
>>>
>>> Don
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

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Re: Integrating UAD Cards into Paris [message #103192 is a reply to message #103188]

Wed, 22 April 2009 16:04

Tom Bruhl

Messages: 1368
Registered: June 2007

Senior Member

Don,

Ya, the same as most others. FxPansion 3.3.

I've found the latency with the newer UAD-2 software
to be only 8156ish (the number escapes me) in samples.
That's about half of the old latency. It's all good.

Faderworks is awesome though. Between that, Mike's
new effects/drivers and Macro Express Paris is a lean mean
fighting machine.

Tom

"Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> wrote in message news:49ef632a@linux...
> Are you using a wrapper Tom?
>
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:49ef2b79@linux...
>> Don,
>>
>> Use Faderworks and you'll never think numbers again.
>> Best thing we have going and it's a single click for all effects
>> being compensated for. I'll send you my preset for 44.1
>> which covers all the UAD and many others including Paris.
>> You'll have to buy Faderworks though.
>> http://www.vertexdsp.com/products_faderworks.html
>>
>> Only bitch is if you're mixing using plugs and you want to overdub
>> more audio. You'll need to bypass all effects to keep everything
>> lined up.
>>
>> I still love it though!
>> Tom
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>> news:49ef17bd@linux...
>>> You gotta use a wrapper bro - I used the FXpansion one. And, get used to
>>> mind numbing latency manuallly compensated math. You'll love what it
>>> does to the sounds though it's a PITA.
>>>
>>> AA
>>>
>>>
>>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> wrote in message news:49eef7ba@linux...
>>>> Hi all
>>>>
>>>> Well it appears out little experiment of building one computer to house
>>>> two EDS cards and two UAD-1e cards has worked (I think)
>>>>
>>>> Never having used UAD cards before here's what happens when I click on
>>>> a plug in the native drop down menu....
>>>>
>>>> What I get is a big brown horizontal window with the plug-in GUI (is
>>>> that the right word) imbedded in theft side of that brown window. And
>>>> on the right side of the window are two places to load/save/delete etc.
>>>> user presets.
>>>>
>>>> I can load up factory presets but none of the knobs change their
>>>> position but the sound does change.
>>>>
>>>> So here are my questions
>>>>
>>>> 1) is this GUI I'm getting normal
>>>>
>>>> 2) Is there a better was to integrate the cards? i.e. Using an
>>>> Expansion wrapper / FFX4 / Chainer / faderworks / sampleslide etc
>>>> (things I've heard about but didn't really take notice of)....and if so
>>>> will that allow me to see the changes made to the controls when loading
>>>> the factory presets.
>>>>
>>>> 3) What about Compensating for delay ? What's the basic delay
>>>> compensation I should use...right now I'm ballparking at roughly at
>>>> somewhere around 375ms (if I remember correctly) using paris
>>>> nudges...definitely less than 400 ms.
>>>>
>>>> 4) what about configuring the cards themselves...any tricks?
>>>>
>>>> I guess that's it for now but I'm sure I'll have more questions as
>>>> things progress
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for reading.
>>>>
>>>> Don
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

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Re: Integrating UAD Cards into Paris [message #103200 is a reply to message #103187]

Thu, 23 April 2009 10:15

Aaron Allen

Messages: 1988
Registered: May 2008

Senior Member

yah, I don't do anything the quick'n'easy way LOL

AA

"Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> wrote in message news:49ef631a@linux...
> Could you email me Rod
>
> Have an amplitube question for you
>
> thanks
>
> Don
>
>
> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:49ef3b0f$1@linux...
>>
>> HA...not so bad really, unless you get into stuff like you were
>> Aaron....cross
>> submix phase dependant parallel compression. ;-)
>> say that 3 times fast!
>>
>>
>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>You gotta use a wrapper bro - I used the FXpansion one. And, get used to
>>
>>>mind numbing latency manuallly compensated math. You'll love what it does
>> to
>>>the sounds though it's a PITA.
>>>
>>>AA
>>>
>>>
>>>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> wrote in message news:49eef7ba@linux...
>>>> Hi all
>>>>
>>>> Well it appears out little experiment of building one computer to house
>>
>>>> two EDS cards and two UAD-1e cards has worked (I think)
>>>>
>>>> Never having used UAD cards before here's what happens when I click on
>> a
>>>> plug in the native drop down menu....
>>>>
>>>> What I get is a big brown horizontal window with the plug-in GUI (is
>>>> that
>>
>>>> the right word) imbedded in theft side of that brown window. And on the
>>
>>>> right side of the window are two places to load/save/delete etc. user
>>
>>>> presets.
>>>>
>>>> I can load up factory presets but none of the knobs change their
>>>> position
>>
>>>> but the sound does change.
>>>>
>>>> So here are my questions
>>>>
>>>> 1) is this GUI I'm getting normal
>>>>
>>>> 2) Is there a better was to integrate the cards? i.e. Using an
>>>> Expansion
>>
>>>> wrapper / FFX4 / Chainer / faderworks / sampleslide etc (things I've
>>>> heard
>>
>>>> about but didn't really take notice of)....and if so will that allow me
>> to
>>>> see the changes made to the controls when loading the factory presets.
>>>>
>>>> 3) What about Compensating for delay ? What's the basic delay
>>>> compensation I should use...right now I'm ballparking at roughly at
>>>> somewhere around 375ms (if I remember correctly) using paris
>>>> nudges...definitely less than 400 ms.
>>>>
>>>> 4) what about configuring the cards themselves...any tricks?
>>>>
>>>> I guess that's it for now but I'm sure I'll have more questions as
>>>> things
>>
>>>> progress
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for reading.
>>>>
>>>> Don
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

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