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| Re: ADAT Card setup questions [message #102425 is a reply to message #102416] |
Sat, 07 February 2009 08:22   |
Ted Gerber
Messages: 705
Registered: January 2009
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Hi David
Thanks for the response. The ADAT card is already loaded in the
patch bay, inputs taking 1 - 8. 1- 8 outputs are connected
to the ADAT card too.
I am also using the S/PDIF send/return to feed an M3000 verb.
Is there a limitation here, prohibiting both digital in/outs
from being used simultaneously?
Ted
"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>Hey Ted,
>
>Go into the patchbay. Double click on "Modules A",(assuming the adat
>card is in MEC A). See the adat card in the list on the right? Drag (I
>think) the adat module into one of the 4 "blocks" of 8 channels, two for
>in's two for outs. Once the adat module shows up as one of the 4
>blocks, you can patch to it and use it without any other settings.
>
>David.
>
>Ted Gerber wrote:
>> Hi folks
>>
>> I've just hooked up an ADAT card in one of my MECS, and can't find anything
>> in the Maunual about ADAT setup. I want to use
>> it to receive audio via lightpipe from another AD converter
>> (aside from the Paris converters). I'm on Mac OS9, not XP.
>>
>> What do I actually have to have in place to make this work? I'm running
as
>> ISA 428 with the AD card > optical out > Paris ADAT inputs. There is no
audio
>> passing. I do not have a 9 pin
>> ADAT sync cable running between the 2 units. Is that the missing ingredient?
>> Being completely ADAT illiterate, I thought 9-pin sync was for multiple
passes
>> and machine control stuff...
>>
>> I searched the newsgroup archives and can't find any explanation for a
basic
>> setup.I did see a post about choosing the correct sync option in the Project
>> window, but there isn't anything available there.
>>
>> Appreciate any help.
>>
>> Ted
>>
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| Re: ADAT Card setup questions [message #102429 is a reply to message #102425] |
Sat, 07 February 2009 09:34 |
audioguy_editout_
Messages: 249
Registered: December 2005
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Senior Member |
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You should be able to use both with no problem. Are you trying to
insert onto channels using adat optical, or are you just trying to get
optical inputs from outboard conversion? Both need to be patched
differently.
David.
Ted Gerber wrote:
> Hi David
>
> Thanks for the response. The ADAT card is already loaded in the
> patch bay, inputs taking 1 - 8. 1- 8 outputs are connected
> to the ADAT card too.
>
> I am also using the S/PDIF send/return to feed an M3000 verb.
> Is there a limitation here, prohibiting both digital in/outs
> from being used simultaneously?
>
> Ted
>
>
>
> "Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>> Hey Ted,
>>
>> Go into the patchbay. Double click on "Modules A",(assuming the adat
>> card is in MEC A). See the adat card in the list on the right? Drag (I
>
>> think) the adat module into one of the 4 "blocks" of 8 channels, two for
>
>> in's two for outs. Once the adat module shows up as one of the 4
>> blocks, you can patch to it and use it without any other settings.
>>
>> David.
>>
>> Ted Gerber wrote:
>>> Hi folks
>>>
>>> I've just hooked up an ADAT card in one of my MECS, and can't find anything
>>> in the Maunual about ADAT setup. I want to use
>>> it to receive audio via lightpipe from another AD converter
>>> (aside from the Paris converters). I'm on Mac OS9, not XP.
>>>
>>> What do I actually have to have in place to make this work? I'm running
> as
>>> ISA 428 with the AD card > optical out > Paris ADAT inputs. There is no
> audio
>>> passing. I do not have a 9 pin
>>> ADAT sync cable running between the 2 units. Is that the missing ingredient?
>>> Being completely ADAT illiterate, I thought 9-pin sync was for multiple
> passes
>>> and machine control stuff...
>>>
>>> I searched the newsgroup archives and can't find any explanation for a
> basic
>>> setup.I did see a post about choosing the correct sync option in the Project
>>> window, but there isn't anything available there.
>>>
>>> Appreciate any help.
>>>
>>> Ted
>>>
>
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| Re: ADAT Card setup questions [message #102430 is a reply to message #102429] |
Sat, 07 February 2009 11:09 |
Ted Gerber
Messages: 705
Registered: January 2009
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Senior Member |
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Trying to pass audio from the ISA 428 ADC into Paris via ADAT
Optical. I've checked all the settings on the send end -
ADC Soft Limit on, bit depth, sample rate and clock source are all synchronized
with Paris - and the Adat card is in the Patch Bay with appropriate connections.
One thing I've noticed that seems a little funky re: word clock,
is that I can switch between 44.1 & 48 in a project and there's
no audible speed change. Shouldn't there be one? If so, is this a clue that
something in Paris re: clocking is wrong? I'm using a
Lucid as master to Paris and the Focusrite...
Thanks for your help
"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>You should be able to use both with no problem. Are you trying to
>insert onto channels using adat optical, or are you just trying to get
>optical inputs from outboard conversion? Both need to be patched
>differently.
>
>David.
>
>Ted Gerber wrote:
>> Hi David
>>
>> Thanks for the response. The ADAT card is already loaded in the
>> patch bay, inputs taking 1 - 8. 1- 8 outputs are connected
>> to the ADAT card too.
>>
>> I am also using the S/PDIF send/return to feed an M3000 verb.
>> Is there a limitation here, prohibiting both digital in/outs
>> from being used simultaneously?
>>
>> Ted
>>
>>
>>
>> "Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>> Hey Ted,
>>>
>>> Go into the patchbay. Double click on "Modules A",(assuming the adat
>>> card is in MEC A). See the adat card in the list on the right? Drag
(I
>>
>>> think) the adat module into one of the 4 "blocks" of 8 channels, two
for
>>
>>> in's two for outs. Once the adat module shows up as one of the 4
>>> blocks, you can patch to it and use it without any other settings.
>>>
>>> David.
>>>
>>> Ted Gerber wrote:
>>>> Hi folks
>>>>
>>>> I've just hooked up an ADAT card in one of my MECS, and can't find anything
>>>> in the Maunual about ADAT setup. I want to use
>>>> it to receive audio via lightpipe from another AD converter
>>>> (aside from the Paris converters). I'm on Mac OS9, not XP.
>>>>
>>>> What do I actually have to have in place to make this work? I'm running
>> as
>>>> ISA 428 with the AD card > optical out > Paris ADAT inputs. There is
no
>> audio
>>>> passing. I do not have a 9 pin
>>>> ADAT sync cable running between the 2 units. Is that the missing ingredient?
>>>> Being completely ADAT illiterate, I thought 9-pin sync was for multiple
>> passes
>>>> and machine control stuff...
>>>>
>>>> I searched the newsgroup archives and can't find any explanation for
a
>> basic
>>>> setup.I did see a post about choosing the correct sync option in the
Project
>>>> window, but there isn't anything available there.
>>>>
>>>> Appreciate any help.
>>>>
>>>> Ted
>>>>
>>
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| Re: ADAT Card setup questions [message #102456 is a reply to message #102430] |
Mon, 09 February 2009 08:26 |
EK Sound
Messages: 939
Registered: June 2005
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Senior Member |
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Hi Ted,
Sorry, I was away for the weekend...
If you are set to "internal" changing from 41 to 48 will create a speed
change. If you have word clock selected, the Paris sample rate display
is moot.
Assuming you have one MEC and one submix, run patch points from MEC
modules A to the Mixer inputs A. It is very important to make sure that
the Submix you are working on is assigned to the card that the MEC with
the adat module is tied to.
David.
Ted Gerber wrote:
> Trying to pass audio from the ISA 428 ADC into Paris via ADAT
> Optical. I've checked all the settings on the send end -
> ADC Soft Limit on, bit depth, sample rate and clock source are all synchronized
> with Paris - and the Adat card is in the Patch Bay with appropriate connections.
>
>
> One thing I've noticed that seems a little funky re: word clock,
> is that I can switch between 44.1 & 48 in a project and there's
> no audible speed change. Shouldn't there be one? If so, is this a clue that
> something in Paris re: clocking is wrong? I'm using a
> Lucid as master to Paris and the Focusrite...
>
> Thanks for your help
>
>
> "Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>> You should be able to use both with no problem. Are you trying to
>> insert onto channels using adat optical, or are you just trying to get
>> optical inputs from outboard conversion? Both need to be patched
>> differently.
>>
>> David.
>>
>> Ted Gerber wrote:
>>> Hi David
>>>
>>> Thanks for the response. The ADAT card is already loaded in the
>>> patch bay, inputs taking 1 - 8. 1- 8 outputs are connected
>>> to the ADAT card too.
>>>
>>> I am also using the S/PDIF send/return to feed an M3000 verb.
>>> Is there a limitation here, prohibiting both digital in/outs
>>> from being used simultaneously?
>>>
>>> Ted
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>> Hey Ted,
>>>>
>>>> Go into the patchbay. Double click on "Modules A",(assuming the adat
>
>>>> card is in MEC A). See the adat card in the list on the right? Drag
> (I
>>>> think) the adat module into one of the 4 "blocks" of 8 channels, two
> for
>>>> in's two for outs. Once the adat module shows up as one of the 4
>>>> blocks, you can patch to it and use it without any other settings.
>>>>
>>>> David.
>>>>
>>>> Ted Gerber wrote:
>>>>> Hi folks
>>>>>
>>>>> I've just hooked up an ADAT card in one of my MECS, and can't find anything
>>>>> in the Maunual about ADAT setup. I want to use
>>>>> it to receive audio via lightpipe from another AD converter
>>>>> (aside from the Paris converters). I'm on Mac OS9, not XP.
>>>>>
>>>>> What do I actually have to have in place to make this work? I'm running
>>> as
>>>>> ISA 428 with the AD card > optical out > Paris ADAT inputs. There is
> no
>>> audio
>>>>> passing. I do not have a 9 pin
>>>>> ADAT sync cable running between the 2 units. Is that the missing ingredient?
>>>>> Being completely ADAT illiterate, I thought 9-pin sync was for multiple
>>> passes
>>>>> and machine control stuff...
>>>>>
>>>>> I searched the newsgroup archives and can't find any explanation for
> a
>>> basic
>>>>> setup.I did see a post about choosing the correct sync option in the
> Project
>>>>> window, but there isn't anything available there.
>>>>>
>>>>> Appreciate any help.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ted
>>>>>
>
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| Re: ADAT Card setup questions [message #102467 is a reply to message #102456] |
Mon, 09 February 2009 15:54 |
Ted Gerber
Messages: 705
Registered: January 2009
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Senior Member |
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David -
Thanks again for your help. Please don't apologize
for being away. I got the set up working, and am too embarrassed to tell
you what I was doing wrong!! Let's just say I was so
focused on ADAT issues, Sample Rates and a new Word Clock
set up that I missed the obvious...
The answer regarding sample rate change is very helpful, and
makes sense as I think about it.
Ted
By the way, I had Colin at the Audio Lab record that violinist
last Fall... he did a fine job.
EK Sound <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote:
>Hi Ted,
>
>Sorry, I was away for the weekend...
>
>If you are set to "internal" changing from 41 to 48 will create a speed
>change. If you have word clock selected, the Paris sample rate display
>is moot.
>
>Assuming you have one MEC and one submix, run patch points from MEC
>modules A to the Mixer inputs A. It is very important to make sure that
>the Submix you are working on is assigned to the card that the MEC with
>the adat module is tied to.
>
>David.
>
>Ted Gerber wrote:
>> Trying to pass audio from the ISA 428 ADC into Paris via ADAT
>> Optical. I've checked all the settings on the send end -
>> ADC Soft Limit on, bit depth, sample rate and clock source are all synchronized
>> with Paris - and the Adat card is in the Patch Bay with appropriate connections.
>>
>>
>> One thing I've noticed that seems a little funky re: word clock,
>> is that I can switch between 44.1 & 48 in a project and there's
>> no audible speed change. Shouldn't there be one? If so, is this a clue
that
>> something in Paris re: clocking is wrong? I'm using a
>> Lucid as master to Paris and the Focusrite...
>>
>> Thanks for your help
>>
>>
>> "Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>> You should be able to use both with no problem. Are you trying to
>>> insert onto channels using adat optical, or are you just trying to get
>>> optical inputs from outboard conversion? Both need to be patched
>>> differently.
>>>
>>> David.
>>>
>>> Ted Gerber wrote:
>>>> Hi David
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the response. The ADAT card is already loaded in the
>>>> patch bay, inputs taking 1 - 8. 1- 8 outputs are connected
>>>> to the ADAT card too.
>>>>
>>>> I am also using the S/PDIF send/return to feed an M3000 verb.
>>>> Is there a limitation here, prohibiting both digital in/outs
>>>> from being used simultaneously?
>>>>
>>>> Ted
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>> Hey Ted,
>>>>>
>>>>> Go into the patchbay. Double click on "Modules A",(assuming the adat
>>
>>>>> card is in MEC A). See the adat card in the list on the right? Drag
>> (I
>>>>> think) the adat module into one of the 4 "blocks" of 8 channels, two
>> for
>>>>> in's two for outs. Once the adat module shows up as one of the 4
>>>>> blocks, you can patch to it and use it without any other settings.
>>>>>
>>>>> David.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ted Gerber wrote:
>>>>>> Hi folks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've just hooked up an ADAT card in one of my MECS, and can't find
anything
>>>>>> in the Maunual about ADAT setup. I want to use
>>>>>> it to receive audio via lightpipe from another AD converter
>>>>>> (aside from the Paris converters). I'm on Mac OS9, not XP.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What do I actually have to have in place to make this work? I'm running
>>>> as
>>>>>> ISA 428 with the AD card > optical out > Paris ADAT inputs. There
is
>> no
>>>> audio
>>>>>> passing. I do not have a 9 pin
>>>>>> ADAT sync cable running between the 2 units. Is that the missing ingredient?
>>>>>> Being completely ADAT illiterate, I thought 9-pin sync was for multiple
>>>> passes
>>>>>> and machine control stuff...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I searched the newsgroup archives and can't find any explanation for
>> a
>>>> basic
>>>>>> setup.I did see a post about choosing the correct sync option in the
>> Project
>>>>>> window, but there isn't anything available there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Appreciate any help.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ted
>>>>>>
>>
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| Re: ADAT Card setup questions [message #102470 is a reply to message #102467] |
Mon, 09 February 2009 15:17 |
EK Sound
Messages: 939
Registered: June 2005
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Senior Member |
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Glad you got it sussed.
I know Colin and his dad Chris... nice people.
David.
Ted Gerber wrote:
> David -
>
> Thanks again for your help. Please don't apologize
> for being away. I got the set up working, and am too embarrassed to tell
> you what I was doing wrong!! Let's just say I was so
> focused on ADAT issues, Sample Rates and a new Word Clock
> set up that I missed the obvious...
>
> The answer regarding sample rate change is very helpful, and
> makes sense as I think about it.
>
> Ted
>
> By the way, I had Colin at the Audio Lab record that violinist
> last Fall... he did a fine job.
>
> EK Sound <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote:
>> Hi Ted,
>>
>> Sorry, I was away for the weekend...
>>
>> If you are set to "internal" changing from 41 to 48 will create a speed
>
>> change. If you have word clock selected, the Paris sample rate display
>
>> is moot.
>>
>> Assuming you have one MEC and one submix, run patch points from MEC
>> modules A to the Mixer inputs A. It is very important to make sure that
>
>> the Submix you are working on is assigned to the card that the MEC with
>
>> the adat module is tied to.
>>
>> David.
>>
>> Ted Gerber wrote:
>>> Trying to pass audio from the ISA 428 ADC into Paris via ADAT
>>> Optical. I've checked all the settings on the send end -
>>> ADC Soft Limit on, bit depth, sample rate and clock source are all synchronized
>>> with Paris - and the Adat card is in the Patch Bay with appropriate connections.
>>>
>>>
>>> One thing I've noticed that seems a little funky re: word clock,
>>> is that I can switch between 44.1 & 48 in a project and there's
>>> no audible speed change. Shouldn't there be one? If so, is this a clue
> that
>>> something in Paris re: clocking is wrong? I'm using a
>>> Lucid as master to Paris and the Focusrite...
>>>
>>> Thanks for your help
>>>
>>>
>>> "Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>> You should be able to use both with no problem. Are you trying to
>>>> insert onto channels using adat optical, or are you just trying to get
>
>>>> optical inputs from outboard conversion? Both need to be patched
>>>> differently.
>>>>
>>>> David.
>>>>
>>>> Ted Gerber wrote:
>>>>> Hi David
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the response. The ADAT card is already loaded in the
>>>>> patch bay, inputs taking 1 - 8. 1- 8 outputs are connected
>>>>> to the ADAT card too.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am also using the S/PDIF send/return to feed an M3000 verb.
>>>>> Is there a limitation here, prohibiting both digital in/outs
>>>>> from being used simultaneously?
>>>>>
>>>>> Ted
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>>> Hey Ted,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Go into the patchbay. Double click on "Modules A",(assuming the adat
>>>>>> card is in MEC A). See the adat card in the list on the right? Drag
>>> (I
>>>>>> think) the adat module into one of the 4 "blocks" of 8 channels, two
>>> for
>>>>>> in's two for outs. Once the adat module shows up as one of the 4
>>>>>> blocks, you can patch to it and use it without any other settings.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> David.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ted Gerber wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi folks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've just hooked up an ADAT card in one of my MECS, and can't find
> anything
>>>>>>> in the Maunual about ADAT setup. I want to use
>>>>>>> it to receive audio via lightpipe from another AD converter
>>>>>>> (aside from the Paris converters). I'm on Mac OS9, not XP.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What do I actually have to have in place to make this work? I'm running
>>>>> as
>>>>>>> ISA 428 with the AD card > optical out > Paris ADAT inputs. There
> is
>>> no
>>>>> audio
>>>>>>> passing. I do not have a 9 pin
>>>>>>> ADAT sync cable running between the 2 units. Is that the missing ingredient?
>>>>>>> Being completely ADAT illiterate, I thought 9-pin sync was for multiple
>>>>> passes
>>>>>>> and machine control stuff...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I searched the newsgroup archives and can't find any explanation for
>>> a
>>>>> basic
>>>>>>> setup.I did see a post about choosing the correct sync option in the
>>> Project
>>>>>>> window, but there isn't anything available there.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Appreciate any help.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ted
>>>>>>>
>
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