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Mac dudes, help for an overheating mac? [message #96271] Mon, 25 February 2008 01:03 Go to next message
Dale is currently offline  Dale   
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To James & all you mac guys,

I bought a Mirror Door Drive G4 mac (single processor) on Ebay about a year
ago, with the idea of making it my Paris machine, but I thought I would test
it first without Paris. At first it seemed to work fine, but it soon started
freezing up, usually after a few hours of use. I opened the case and put
a 12" fan pointed directly at the processor, and it worked perfectly for
awhile, but after a few months it was back to the old tricks. Definitely
heat related, as it's worse on hot days or if I keep my computer closet closed
with the light on.

Any ideas on what I might try?

Thanks,
Dale
Re: Mac dudes, help for an overheating mac? [message #96275 is a reply to message #96271] Mon, 25 February 2008 12:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
excelav is currently offline  excelav   
Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit
Senior Member
My Dual Mirror door G4 dual 1.25 runs hot as well,but I've never had problems
with freeze up. Your problem may be hardware/heat related, but my first
guess is software. There was a firmware down load related to heat and noise.
I would check Apple's support site for the latest firmware. Are you freezing
when running OS 9 or OSX? If your freezing in OS9, don't forget that OS
9 does not have protected memory, so you may need to allocate more memory
to programs. It was the biggest flaw with Mac OS 9 and prior, users would
forget to up the memory for all the programs they are running and they'd
get a lock up or crash.

I hope this helps!

James

"dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>To James & all you mac guys,
>
>I bought a Mirror Door Drive G4 mac (single processor) on Ebay about a year
>ago, with the idea of making it my Paris machine, but I thought I would
test
>it first without Paris. At first it seemed to work fine, but it soon started
>freezing up, usually after a few hours of use. I opened the case and put
>a 12" fan pointed directly at the processor, and it worked perfectly for
>awhile, but after a few months it was back to the old tricks. Definitely
>heat related, as it's worse on hot days or if I keep my computer closet
closed
>with the light on.
>
>Any ideas on what I might try?
>
>Thanks,
>Dale
Re: Mac dudes, help for an overheating mac? [message #96276 is a reply to message #96275] Mon, 25 February 2008 12:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dale is currently offline  Dale   
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Member
thanks James,

If I make this machine my Paris rig, I will be running OS9, but have not
tried that yet. I'm currently running 10.4.9, but also using Classic. I think
it freezes up with classic running or not---but I can try not using Classic
and see if that makes a difference. Do you think I need to change some kind
of settings in classic? Or allocate more memory to OS9 apps? I thought OSX
automatically handled memory.

Thanks,
Dale



"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>My Dual Mirror door G4 dual 1.25 runs hot as well,but I've never had problems
>with freeze up. Your problem may be hardware/heat related, but my first
>guess is software. There was a firmware down load related to heat and noise.
> I would check Apple's support site for the latest firmware. Are you freezing
>when running OS 9 or OSX? If your freezing in OS9, don't forget that OS
>9 does not have protected memory, so you may need to allocate more memory
>to programs. It was the biggest flaw with Mac OS 9 and prior, users would
>forget to up the memory for all the programs they are running and they'd
>get a lock up or crash.
>
>I hope this helps!
>
>James
>
>"dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>To James & all you mac guys,
>>
>>I bought a Mirror Door Drive G4 mac (single processor) on Ebay about a
year
>>ago, with the idea of making it my Paris machine, but I thought I would
>test
>>it first without Paris. At first it seemed to work fine, but it soon started
>>freezing up, usually after a few hours of use. I opened the case and put
>>a 12" fan pointed directly at the processor, and it worked perfectly for
>>awhile, but after a few months it was back to the old tricks. Definitely
>>heat related, as it's worse on hot days or if I keep my computer closet
>closed
>>with the light on.
>>
>>Any ideas on what I might try?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Dale
>
Re: Mac dudes, help for an overheating mac? [message #96277 is a reply to message #96276] Mon, 25 February 2008 11:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
EK Sound is currently offline  EK Sound   CANADA
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Registered: June 2005
Senior Member
We still have a "Classic" around here somewhere if you need a spare... ;-)

David.

dale wrote:
> thanks James,
>
> If I make this machine my Paris rig, I will be running OS9, but have not
> tried that yet. I'm currently running 10.4.9, but also using Classic. I think
> it freezes up with classic running or not---but I can try not using Classic
> and see if that makes a difference. Do you think I need to change some kind
> of settings in classic? Or allocate more memory to OS9 apps? I thought OSX
> automatically handled memory.
>
> Thanks,
> Dale
>
>
>
> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>My Dual Mirror door G4 dual 1.25 runs hot as well,but I've never had problems
>>with freeze up. Your problem may be hardware/heat related, but my first
>>guess is software. There was a firmware down load related to heat and noise.
>>I would check Apple's support site for the latest firmware. Are you freezing
>>when running OS 9 or OSX? If your freezing in OS9, don't forget that OS
>>9 does not have protected memory, so you may need to allocate more memory
>>to programs. It was the biggest flaw with Mac OS 9 and prior, users would
>>forget to up the memory for all the programs they are running and they'd
>>get a lock up or crash.
>>
>>I hope this helps!
>>
>>James
>>
>>"dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>To James & all you mac guys,
>>>
>>>I bought a Mirror Door Drive G4 mac (single processor) on Ebay about a
>
> year
>
>>>ago, with the idea of making it my Paris machine, but I thought I would
>>
>>test
>>
>>>it first without Paris. At first it seemed to work fine, but it soon started
>>>freezing up, usually after a few hours of use. I opened the case and put
>>>a 12" fan pointed directly at the processor, and it worked perfectly for
>>>awhile, but after a few months it was back to the old tricks. Definitely
>>>heat related, as it's worse on hot days or if I keep my computer closet
>>
>>closed
>>
>>>with the light on.
>>>
>>>Any ideas on what I might try?
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>Dale
>>
>
Re: Mac dudes, help for an overheating mac? [message #96279 is a reply to message #96276] Mon, 25 February 2008 12:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
excelav is currently offline  excelav   
Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit
Senior Member
Mac OSX has protected memory, so I'd check the support site for the latest
firmware. Is the machine locking up running OSX? Do you have an Apple retail
store near you?

"dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>thanks James,
>
>If I make this machine my Paris rig, I will be running OS9, but have not
>tried that yet. I'm currently running 10.4.9, but also using Classic. I
think
>it freezes up with classic running or not---but I can try not using Classic
>and see if that makes a difference. Do you think I need to change some kind
>of settings in classic? Or allocate more memory to OS9 apps? I thought OSX
>automatically handled memory.
>
>Thanks,
>Dale
>
>
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>My Dual Mirror door G4 dual 1.25 runs hot as well,but I've never had problems
>>with freeze up. Your problem may be hardware/heat related, but my first
>>guess is software. There was a firmware down load related to heat and
noise.
>> I would check Apple's support site for the latest firmware. Are you
freezing
>>when running OS 9 or OSX? If your freezing in OS9, don't forget that OS
>>9 does not have protected memory, so you may need to allocate more memory
>>to programs. It was the biggest flaw with Mac OS 9 and prior, users would
>>forget to up the memory for all the programs they are running and they'd
>>get a lock up or crash.
>>
>>I hope this helps!
>>
>>James
>>
>>"dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>To James & all you mac guys,
>>>
>>>I bought a Mirror Door Drive G4 mac (single processor) on Ebay about a
>year
>>>ago, with the idea of making it my Paris machine, but I thought I would
>>test
>>>it first without Paris. At first it seemed to work fine, but it soon started
>>>freezing up, usually after a few hours of use. I opened the case and put
>>>a 12" fan pointed directly at the processor, and it worked perfectly for
>>>awhile, but after a few months it was back to the old tricks. Definitely
>>>heat related, as it's worse on hot days or if I keep my computer closet
>>closed
>>>with the light on.
>>>
>>>Any ideas on what I might try?
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>Dale
>>
>
Re: Mac dudes, help for an overheating mac? [message #96312 is a reply to message #96279] Tue, 26 February 2008 18:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dale is currently offline  Dale   
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I downloaded the firmware update, but when I run the installer it says I must
be booted into system 9. It is my understanding that in order to install
a bootable system 9, I need the original install disk(s). I have a single
install disk, but I've checked several apple forums, and unless I am missing
something, the system 9 install stuff must be on a different disk that I
don't have. The local Mac store won't sell me a replacement disk(s), but
they say they will install system 9 onto my machine for $45.

Obviously, it would be preferable to have the disk(s) so I can re-install
system 9 if/when necessary in the future.

I looked on Ebay, and there is a set of 4 install disks for MDD that is
up for sale, which I will try to bid on.

Does anyone have any other ideas on how to get these disks?

Thanks,
Dale

"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Mac OSX has protected memory, so I'd check the support site for the latest
>firmware. Is the machine locking up running OSX? Do you have an Apple
retail
>store near you?
>
>"dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>thanks James,
>>
>>If I make this machine my Paris rig, I will be running OS9, but have not
>>tried that yet. I'm currently running 10.4.9, but also using Classic. I
>think
>>it freezes up with classic running or not---but I can try not using Classic
>>and see if that makes a difference. Do you think I need to change some
kind
>>of settings in classic? Or allocate more memory to OS9 apps? I thought
OSX
>>automatically handled memory.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Dale
>>
>>
>>
>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>My Dual Mirror door G4 dual 1.25 runs hot as well,but I've never had problems
>>>with freeze up. Your problem may be hardware/heat related, but my first
>>>guess is software. There was a firmware down load related to heat and
>noise.
>>> I would check Apple's support site for the latest firmware. Are you
>freezing
>>>when running OS 9 or OSX? If your freezing in OS9, don't forget that
OS
>>>9 does not have protected memory, so you may need to allocate more memory
>>>to programs. It was the biggest flaw with Mac OS 9 and prior, users would
>>>forget to up the memory for all the programs they are running and they'd
>>>get a lock up or crash.
>>>
>>>I hope this helps!
>>>
>>>James
>>>
>>>"dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>To James & all you mac guys,
>>>>
>>>>I bought a Mirror Door Drive G4 mac (single processor) on Ebay about
a
>>year
>>>>ago, with the idea of making it my Paris machine, but I thought I would
>>>test
>>>>it first without Paris. At first it seemed to work fine, but it soon
started
>>>>freezing up, usually after a few hours of use. I opened the case and
put
>>>>a 12" fan pointed directly at the processor, and it worked perfectly
for
>>>>awhile, but after a few months it was back to the old tricks. Definitely
>>>>heat related, as it's worse on hot days or if I keep my computer closet
>>>closed
>>>>with the light on.
>>>>
>>>>Any ideas on what I might try?
>>>>
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>Dale
>>>
>>
>
Re: Mac dudes, help for an overheating mac? [message #96314 is a reply to message #96312] Tue, 26 February 2008 18:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
excelav is currently offline  excelav   
Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit
Senior Member
Did you check to see if OS9 is already installed? You can check by going
to system preferences, Start up disk. If there is an OS9 folder in there,
click on it and hit restart. I don't however think this will help you with
OSX freeze ups. I would make an appointment at the Genus bar at your Apple
store and have them look at it.

"dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>I downloaded the firmware update, but when I run the installer it says I
must
>be booted into system 9. It is my understanding that in order to install
>a bootable system 9, I need the original install disk(s). I have a single
>install disk, but I've checked several apple forums, and unless I am missing
>something, the system 9 install stuff must be on a different disk that I
>don't have. The local Mac store won't sell me a replacement disk(s), but
>they say they will install system 9 onto my machine for $45.
>
>Obviously, it would be preferable to have the disk(s) so I can re-install
>system 9 if/when necessary in the future.
>
>I looked on Ebay, and there is a set of 4 install disks for MDD that is
>up for sale, which I will try to bid on.
>
>Does anyone have any other ideas on how to get these disks?
>
>Thanks,
>Dale
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Mac OSX has protected memory, so I'd check the support site for the latest
>>firmware. Is the machine locking up running OSX? Do you have an Apple
>retail
>>store near you?
>>
>>"dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>thanks James,
>>>
>>>If I make this machine my Paris rig, I will be running OS9, but have not
>>>tried that yet. I'm currently running 10.4.9, but also using Classic.
I
>>think
>>>it freezes up with classic running or not---but I can try not using Classic
>>>and see if that makes a difference. Do you think I need to change some
>kind
>>>of settings in classic? Or allocate more memory to OS9 apps? I thought
>OSX
>>>automatically handled memory.
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>Dale
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>My Dual Mirror door G4 dual 1.25 runs hot as well,but I've never had
problems
>>>>with freeze up. Your problem may be hardware/heat related, but my first
>>>>guess is software. There was a firmware down load related to heat and
>>noise.
>>>> I would check Apple's support site for the latest firmware. Are you
>>freezing
>>>>when running OS 9 or OSX? If your freezing in OS9, don't forget that
>OS
>>>>9 does not have protected memory, so you may need to allocate more memory
>>>>to programs. It was the biggest flaw with Mac OS 9 and prior, users
would
>>>>forget to up the memory for all the programs they are running and they'd
>>>>get a lock up or crash.
>>>>
>>>>I hope this helps!
>>>>
>>>>James
>>>>
>>>>"dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>To James & all you mac guys,
>>>>>
>>>>>I bought a Mirror Door Drive G4 mac (single processor) on Ebay about
>a
>>>year
>>>>>ago, with the idea of making it my Paris machine, but I thought I would
>>>>test
>>>>>it first without Paris. At first it seemed to work fine, but it soon
>started
>>>>>freezing up, usually after a few hours of use. I opened the case and
>put
>>>>>a 12" fan pointed directly at the processor, and it worked perfectly
>for
>>>>>awhile, but after a few months it was back to the old tricks. Definitely
>>>>>heat related, as it's worse on hot days or if I keep my computer closet
>>>>closed
>>>>>with the light on.
>>>>>
>>>>>Any ideas on what I might try?
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>Dale
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: Mac dudes, help for an overheating mac? [message #96320 is a reply to message #96314] Tue, 26 February 2008 20:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dale is currently offline  Dale   
Messages: 77
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Member
OS 9 (Classic) is installed (on more than one HD), but when I go to system
Preferences / Startup Disk, the only Systems that show up to select to boot
with are the OS X ones. It's my understanding that even a dragged-over system
9 will work for classic, but to make system 9 bootable, the original disks
(set of 4, I think) that came with the MDD must be used.

What I'm wondering is, can these original MDD disks be copied? If not, then
I guess I will bid high to try and snag the ones on Ebay.

Dale

"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Did you check to see if OS9 is already installed? You can check by going
>to system preferences, Start up disk. If there is an OS9 folder in there,
>click on it and hit restart. I don't however think this will help you with
>OSX freeze ups. I would make an appointment at the Genus bar at your Apple
>store and have them look at it.
>
>"dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>I downloaded the firmware update, but when I run the installer it says
I
>must
>>be booted into system 9. It is my understanding that in order to install
>>a bootable system 9, I need the original install disk(s). I have a single
>>install disk, but I've checked several apple forums, and unless I am missing
>>something, the system 9 install stuff must be on a different disk that
I
>>don't have. The local Mac store won't sell me a replacement disk(s), but
>>they say they will install system 9 onto my machine for $45.
>>
>>Obviously, it would be preferable to have the disk(s) so I can re-install
>>system 9 if/when necessary in the future.
>>
>>I looked on Ebay, and there is a set of 4 install disks for MDD that is
>>up for sale, which I will try to bid on.
>>
>>Does anyone have any other ideas on how to get these disks?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Dale
>>
>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Mac OSX has protected memory, so I'd check the support site for the latest
>>>firmware. Is the machine locking up running OSX? Do you have an Apple
>>retail
>>>store near you?
>>>
>>>"dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>thanks James,
>>>>
>>>>If I make this machine my Paris rig, I will be running OS9, but have
not
>>>>tried that yet. I'm currently running 10.4.9, but also using Classic.
>I
>>>think
>>>>it freezes up with classic running or not---but I can try not using Classic
>>>>and see if that makes a difference. Do you think I need to change some
>>kind
>>>>of settings in classic? Or allocate more memory to OS9 apps? I thought
>>OSX
>>>>automatically handled memory.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>Dale
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>My Dual Mirror door G4 dual 1.25 runs hot as well,but I've never had
>problems
>>>>>with freeze up. Your problem may be hardware/heat related, but my first
>>>>>guess is software. There was a firmware down load related to heat and
>>>noise.
>>>>> I would check Apple's support site for the latest firmware. Are you
>>>freezing
>>>>>when running OS 9 or OSX? If your freezing in OS9, don't forget that
>>OS
>>>>>9 does not have protected memory, so you may need to allocate more memory
>>>>>to programs. It was the biggest flaw with Mac OS 9 and prior, users
>would
>>>>>forget to up the memory for all the programs they are running and they'd
>>>>>get a lock up or crash.
>>>>>
>>>>>I hope this helps!
>>>>>
>>>>>James
>>>>>
>>>>>"dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>To James & all you mac guys,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I bought a Mirror Door Drive G4 mac (single processor) on Ebay about
>>a
>>>>year
>>>>>>ago, with the idea of making it my Paris machine, but I thought I would
>>>>>test
>>>>>>it first without Paris. At first it seemed to work fine, but it soon
>>started
>>>>>>freezing up, usually after a few hours of use. I opened the case and
>>put
>>>>>>a 12" fan pointed directly at the processor, and it worked perfectly
>>for
>>>>>>awhile, but after a few months it was back to the old tricks. Definitely
>>>>>>heat related, as it's worse on hot days or if I keep my computer closet
>>>>>closed
>>>>>>with the light on.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Any ideas on what I might try?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>Dale
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: Mac dudes, help for an overheating mac? [message #96321 is a reply to message #96320] Tue, 26 February 2008 21:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
excelav is currently offline  excelav   
Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit
Senior Member
I would call 800 SOS APPLE and see what the restore disk would cost. I would
tell them you misplaced them. At one time they would send them out for free.

"dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>OS 9 (Classic) is installed (on more than one HD), but when I go to system
>Preferences / Startup Disk, the only Systems that show up to select to boot
>with are the OS X ones. It's my understanding that even a dragged-over system
>9 will work for classic, but to make system 9 bootable, the original disks
>(set of 4, I think) that came with the MDD must be used.
>
>What I'm wondering is, can these original MDD disks be copied? If not, then
>I guess I will bid high to try and snag the ones on Ebay.
>
>Dale
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Did you check to see if OS9 is already installed? You can check by going
>>to system preferences, Start up disk. If there is an OS9 folder in there,
>>click on it and hit restart. I don't however think this will help you
with
>>OSX freeze ups. I would make an appointment at the Genus bar at your Apple
>>store and have them look at it.
>>
>>"dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>I downloaded the firmware update, but when I run the installer it says
>I
>>must
>>>be booted into system 9. It is my understanding that in order to install
>>>a bootable system 9, I need the original install disk(s). I have a single
>>>install disk, but I've checked several apple forums, and unless I am missing
>>>something, the system 9 install stuff must be on a different disk that
>I
>>>don't have. The local Mac store won't sell me a replacement disk(s), but
>>>they say they will install system 9 onto my machine for $45.
>>>
>>>Obviously, it would be preferable to have the disk(s) so I can re-install
>>>system 9 if/when necessary in the future.
>>>
>>>I looked on Ebay, and there is a set of 4 install disks for MDD that
is
>>>up for sale, which I will try to bid on.
>>>
>>>Does anyone have any other ideas on how to get these disks?
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>Dale
>>>
>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Mac OSX has protected memory, so I'd check the support site for the latest
>>>>firmware. Is the machine locking up running OSX? Do you have an Apple
>>>retail
>>>>store near you?
>>>>
>>>>"dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>thanks James,
>>>>>
>>>>>If I make this machine my Paris rig, I will be running OS9, but have
>not
>>>>>tried that yet. I'm currently running 10.4.9, but also using Classic.
>>I
>>>>think
>>>>>it freezes up with classic running or not---but I can try not using
Classic
>>>>>and see if that makes a difference. Do you think I need to change some
>>>kind
>>>>>of settings in classic? Or allocate more memory to OS9 apps? I thought
>>>OSX
>>>>>automatically handled memory.
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>Dale
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>My Dual Mirror door G4 dual 1.25 runs hot as well,but I've never had
>>problems
>>>>>>with freeze up. Your problem may be hardware/heat related, but my
first
>>>>>>guess is software. There was a firmware down load related to heat
and
>>>>noise.
>>>>>> I would check Apple's support site for the latest firmware. Are
you
>>>>freezing
>>>>>>when running OS 9 or OSX? If your freezing in OS9, don't forget that
>>>OS
>>>>>>9 does not have protected memory, so you may need to allocate more
memory
>>>>>>to programs. It was the biggest flaw with Mac OS 9 and prior, users
>>would
>>>>>>forget to up the memory for all the programs they are running and they'd
>>>>>>get a lock up or crash.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I hope this helps!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>James
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>To James & all you mac guys,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I bought a Mirror Door Drive G4 mac (single processor) on Ebay about
>>>a
>>>>>year
>>>>>>>ago, with the idea of making it my Paris machine, but I thought I
would
>>>>>>test
>>>>>>>it first without Paris. At first it seemed to work fine, but it soon
>>>started
>>>>>>>freezing up, usually after a few hours of use. I opened the case and
>>>put
>>>>>>>a 12" fan pointed directly at the processor, and it worked perfectly
>>>for
>>>>>>>awhile, but after a few months it was back to the old tricks. Definitely
>>>>>>>heat related, as it's worse on hot days or if I keep my computer closet
>>>>>>closed
>>>>>>>with the light on.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Any ideas on what I might try?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>Dale
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: Mac dudes, help for an overheating mac? [message #96348 is a reply to message #96321] Wed, 27 February 2008 09:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dale is currently offline  Dale   
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Member
Thanks James! I'll try that.


"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>I would call 800 SOS APPLE and see what the restore disk would cost. I
would
>tell them you misplaced them. At one time they would send them out for
free.
>
>"dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>OS 9 (Classic) is installed (on more than one HD), but when I go to system
>>Preferences / Startup Disk, the only Systems that show up to select to
boot
>>with are the OS X ones. It's my understanding that even a dragged-over
system
>>9 will work for classic, but to make system 9 bootable, the original disks
>>(set of 4, I think) that came with the MDD must be used.
>>
>>What I'm wondering is, can these original MDD disks be copied? If not,
then
>>I guess I will bid high to try and snag the ones on Ebay.
>>
>>Dale
>>
>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Did you check to see if OS9 is already installed? You can check by going
>>>to system preferences, Start up disk. If there is an OS9 folder in there,
>>>click on it and hit restart. I don't however think this will help you
>with
>>>OSX freeze ups. I would make an appointment at the Genus bar at your
Apple
>>>store and have them look at it.
>>>
>>>"dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>I downloaded the firmware update, but when I run the installer it says
>>I
>>>must
>>>>be booted into system 9. It is my understanding that in order to install
>>>>a bootable system 9, I need the original install disk(s). I have a single
>>>>install disk, but I've checked several apple forums, and unless I am
missing
>>>>something, the system 9 install stuff must be on a different disk that
>>I
>>>>don't have. The local Mac store won't sell me a replacement disk(s),
but
>>>>they say they will install system 9 onto my machine for $45.
>>>>
>>>>Obviously, it would be preferable to have the disk(s) so I can re-install
>>>>system 9 if/when necessary in the future.
>>>>
>>>>I looked on Ebay, and there is a set of 4 install disks for MDD that
>is
>>>>up for sale, which I will try to bid on.
>>>>
>>>>Does anyone have any other ideas on how to get these disks?
>>>>
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>Dale
>>>>
>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Mac OSX has protected memory, so I'd check the support site for the
latest
>>>>>firmware. Is the machine locking up running OSX? Do you have an Apple
>>>>retail
>>>>>store near you?
>>>>>
>>>>>"dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>thanks James,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>If I make this machine my Paris rig, I will be running OS9, but have
>>not
>>>>>>tried that yet. I'm currently running 10.4.9, but also using Classic.
>>>I
>>>>>think
>>>>>>it freezes up with classic running or not---but I can try not using
>Classic
>>>>>>and see if that makes a difference. Do you think I need to change some
>>>>kind
>>>>>>of settings in classic? Or allocate more memory to OS9 apps? I thought
>>>>OSX
>>>>>>automatically handled memory.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>Dale
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>My Dual Mirror door G4 dual 1.25 runs hot as well,but I've never had
>>>problems
>>>>>>>with freeze up. Your problem may be hardware/heat related, but my
>first
>>>>>>>guess is software. There was a firmware down load related to heat
>and
>>>>>noise.
>>>>>>> I would check Apple's support site for the latest firmware. Are
>you
>>>>>freezing
>>>>>>>when running OS 9 or OSX? If your freezing in OS9, don't forget that
>>>>OS
>>>>>>>9 does not have protected memory, so you may need to allocate more
>memory
>>>>>>>to programs. It was the biggest flaw with Mac OS 9 and prior, users
>>>would
>>>>>>>forget to up the memory for all the programs they are running and
they'd
>>>>>>>get a lock up or crash.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I hope this helps!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>James
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>To James & all you mac guys,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I bought a Mirror Door Drive G4 mac (single processor) on Ebay about
>>>>a
>>>>>>year
>>>>>>>>ago, with the idea of making it my Paris machine, but I thought I
>would
>>>>>>>test
>>>>>>>>it first without Paris. At first it seemed to work fine, but it soon
>>>>started
>>>>>>>>freezing up, usually after a few hours of use. I opened the case
and
>>>>put
>>>>>>>>a 12" fan pointed directly at the processor, and it worked perfectly
>>>>for
>>>>>>>>awhile, but after a few months it was back to the old tricks. Definitely
>>>>>>>>heat related, as it's worse on hot days or if I keep my computer
closet
>>>>>>>closed
>>>>>>>>with the light on.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Any ideas on what I might try?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>>Dale
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: Mac dudes, help for an overheating mac? [message #96388 is a reply to message #96348] Thu, 28 February 2008 15:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dale is currently offline  Dale   
Messages: 77
Registered: September 2005
Member
1-800-SOS-APPLE will charge me $160, $40 per disk. Ouch.

They also said that my single CD that came with my MDD (single, FW4000) mac
titled "Software install & restore" is supposed to do the trick, but I tried
everything I could think of without success. An Apple discussion forum ("Help!
Can't install 9.2.1 on G4 MDD") seem to confirm that either a 4-CD set or
a 2-DVD set that came with (some of?) these MDDs is the ticket.

Any further ideas would be appreciated......thanks

Dale


"dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>Thanks James! I'll try that.
>
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>I would call 800 SOS APPLE and see what the restore disk would cost. I
>would
>>tell them you misplaced them. At one time they would send them out for
>free.
>>
>>"dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>OS 9 (Classic) is installed (on more than one HD), but when I go to system
>>>Preferences / Startup Disk, the only Systems that show up to select to
>boot
>>>with are the OS X ones. It's my understanding that even a dragged-over
>system
>>>9 will work for classic, but to make system 9 bootable, the original disks
>>>(set of 4, I think) that came with the MDD must be used.
>>>
>>>What I'm wondering is, can these original MDD disks be copied? If not,
>then
>>>I guess I will bid high to try and snag the ones on Ebay.
>>>
>>>Dale
>>>
>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Did you check to see if OS9 is already installed? You can check by going
>>>>to system preferences, Start up disk. If there is an OS9 folder in there,
>>>>click on it and hit restart. I don't however think this will help you
>>with
>>>>OSX freeze ups. I would make an appointment at the Genus bar at your
>Apple
>>>>store and have them look at it.
>>>>
>>>>"dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>I downloaded the firmware update, but when I run the installer it says
>>>I
>>>>must
>>>>>be booted into system 9. It is my understanding that in order to install
>>>>>a bootable system 9, I need the original install disk(s). I have a single
>>>>>install disk, but I've checked several apple forums, and unless I am
>missing
>>>>>something, the system 9 install stuff must be on a different disk that
>>>I
>>>>>don't have. The local Mac store won't sell me a replacement disk(s),
>but
>>>>>they say they will install system 9 onto my machine for $45.
>>>>>
>>>>>Obviously, it would be preferable to have the disk(s) so I can re-install
>>>>>system 9 if/when necessary in the future.
>>>>>
>>>>>I looked on Ebay, and there is a set of 4 install disks for MDD that
>>is
>>>>>up for sale, which I will try to bid on.
>>>>>
>>>>>Does anyone have any other ideas on how to get these disks?
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>Dale
>>>>>
>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Mac OSX has protected memory, so I'd check the support site for the
>latest
>>>>>>firmware. Is the machine locking up running OSX? Do you have an Apple
>>>>>retail
>>>>>>store near you?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>thanks James,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>If I make this machine my Paris rig, I will be running OS9, but have
>>>not
>>>>>>>tried that yet. I'm currently running 10.4.9, but also using Classic.
>>>>I
>>>>>>think
>>>>>>>it freezes up with classic running or not---but I can try not using
>>Classic
>>>>>>>and see if that makes a difference. Do you think I need to change
some
>>>>>kind
>>>>>>>of settings in classic? Or allocate more memory to OS9 apps? I thought
>>>>>OSX
>>>>>>>automatically handled memory.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>Dale
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>My Dual Mirror door G4 dual 1.25 runs hot as well,but I've never
had
>>>>problems
>>>>>>>>with freeze up. Your problem may be hardware/heat related, but my
>>first
>>>>>>>>guess is software. There was a firmware down load related to heat
>>and
>>>>>>noise.
>>>>>>>> I would check Apple's support site for the latest firmware. Are
>>you
>>>>>>freezing
>>>>>>>>when running OS 9 or OSX? If your freezing in OS9, don't forget
that
>>>>>OS
>>>>>>>>9 does not have protected memory, so you may need to allocate more
>>memory
>>>>>>>>to programs. It was the biggest flaw with Mac OS 9 and prior, users
>>>>would
>>>>>>>>forget to up the memory for all the programs they are running and
>they'd
>>>>>>>>get a lock up or crash.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I hope this helps!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>James
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>To James & all you mac guys,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I bought a Mirror Door Drive G4 mac (single processor) on Ebay about
>>>>>a
>>>>>>>year
>>>>>>>>>ago, with the idea of making it my Paris machine, but I thought
I
>>would
>>>>>>>>test
>>>>>>>>>it first without Paris. At first it seemed to work fine, but it
soon
>>>>>started
>>>>>>>>>freezing up, usually after a few hours of use. I opened the case
>and
>>>>>put
>>>>>>>>>a 12" fan pointed directly at the processor, and it worked perfectly
>>>>>for
>>>>>>>>>awhile, but after a few months it was back to the old tricks. Definitely
>>>>>>>>>heat related, as it's worse on hot days or if I keep my computer
>closet
>>>>>>>>closed
>>>>>>>>>with the light on.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Any ideas on what I might try?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>Dale
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: Mac dudes, help for an overheating mac? [message #96395 is a reply to message #96388] Thu, 28 February 2008 20:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
excelav is currently offline  excelav   
Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit
Senior Member
Dale, it looks like Dave from EK Sound was offering you a OS 9 installer disk.
Check back through the thread for his post. I would install OS9 on a separate
hard disk or partition.

"dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>1-800-SOS-APPLE will charge me $160, $40 per disk. Ouch.
>
>They also said that my single CD that came with my MDD (single, FW4000)
mac
>titled "Software install & restore" is supposed to do the trick, but I tried
>everything I could think of without success. An Apple discussion forum ("Help!
>Can't install 9.2.1 on G4 MDD") seem to confirm that either a 4-CD set or
>a 2-DVD set that came with (some of?) these MDDs is the ticket.
>
>Any further ideas would be appreciated......thanks
>
>Dale
>
>
>"dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>Thanks James! I'll try that.
>>
>>
>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>I would call 800 SOS APPLE and see what the restore disk would cost.
I
>>would
>>>tell them you misplaced them. At one time they would send them out for
>>free.
>>>
>>>"dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>OS 9 (Classic) is installed (on more than one HD), but when I go to system
>>>>Preferences / Startup Disk, the only Systems that show up to select to
>>boot
>>>>with are the OS X ones. It's my understanding that even a dragged-over
>>system
>>>>9 will work for classic, but to make system 9 bootable, the original
disks
>>>>(set of 4, I think) that came with the MDD must be used.
>>>>
>>>>What I'm wondering is, can these original MDD disks be copied? If not,
>>then
>>>>I guess I will bid high to try and snag the ones on Ebay.
>>>>
>>>>Dale
>>>>
>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Did you check to see if OS9 is already installed? You can check by
going
>>>>>to system preferences, Start up disk. If there is an OS9 folder in
there,
>>>>>click on it and hit restart. I don't however think this will help you
>>>with
>>>>>OSX freeze ups. I would make an appointment at the Genus bar at your
>>Apple
>>>>>store and have them look at it.
>>>>>
>>>>>"dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I downloaded the firmware update, but when I run the installer it says
>>>>I
>>>>>must
>>>>>>be booted into system 9. It is my understanding that in order to install
>>>>>>a bootable system 9, I need the original install disk(s). I have a
single
>>>>>>install disk, but I've checked several apple forums, and unless I am
>>missing
>>>>>>something, the system 9 install stuff must be on a different disk that
>>>>I
>>>>>>don't have. The local Mac store won't sell me a replacement disk(s),
>>but
>>>>>>they say they will install system 9 onto my machine for $45.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Obviously, it would be preferable to have the disk(s) so I can re-install
>>>>>>system 9 if/when necessary in the future.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I looked on Ebay, and there is a set of 4 install disks for MDD that
>>>is
>>>>>>up for sale, which I will try to bid on.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Does anyone have any other ideas on how to get these disks?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>Dale
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Mac OSX has protected memory, so I'd check the support site for the
>>latest
>>>>>>>firmware. Is the machine locking up running OSX? Do you have an
Apple
>>>>>>retail
>>>>>>>store near you?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>thanks James,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>If I make this machine my Paris rig, I will be running OS9, but have
>>>>not
>>>>>>>>tried that yet. I'm currently running 10.4.9, but also using Classic.
>>>>>I
>>>>>>>think
>>>>>>>>it freezes up with classic running or not---but I can try not using
>>>Classic
>>>>>>>>and see if that makes a difference. Do you think I need to change
>some
>>>>>>kind
>>>>>>>>of settings in classic? Or allocate more memory to OS9 apps? I thought
>>>>>>OSX
>>>>>>>>automatically handled memory.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>>Dale
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>My Dual Mirror door G4 dual 1.25 runs hot as well,but I've never
>had
>>>>>problems
>>>>>>>>>with freeze up. Your problem may be hardware/heat related, but
my
>>>first
>>>>>>>>>guess is software. There was a firmware down load related to heat
>>>and
>>>>>>>noise.
>>>>>>>>> I would check Apple's support site for the latest firmware. Are
>>>you
>>>>>>>freezing
>>>>>>>>>when running OS 9 or OSX? If your freezing in OS9, don't forget
>that
>>>>>>OS
>>>>>>>>>9 does not have protected memory, so you may need to allocate more
>>>memory
>>>>>>>>>to programs. It was the biggest flaw with Mac OS 9 and prior, users
>>>>>would
>>>>>>>>>forget to up the memory for all the programs they are running and
>>they'd
>>>>>>>>>get a lock up or crash.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I hope this helps!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>James
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>To James & all you mac guys,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I bought a Mirror Door Drive G4 mac (single processor) on Ebay
about
>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>year
>>>>>>>>>>ago, with the idea of making it my Paris machine, but I thought
>I
>>>would
>>>>>>>>>test
>>>>>>>>>>it first without Paris. At first it seemed to work fine, but it
>soon
>>>>>>started
>>>>>>>>>>freezing up, usually after a few hours of use. I opened the case
>>and
>>>>>>put
>>>>>>>>>>a 12" fan pointed directly at the processor, and it worked perfectly
>>>>>>for
>>>>>>>>>>awhile, but after a few months it was back to the old tricks. Definitely
>>>>>>>>>>heat related, as it's worse on hot days or if I keep my computer
>>closet
>>>>>>>>>closed
>>>>>>>>>>with the light on.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Any ideas on what I might try?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>Dale
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: Mac dudes, help for an overheating mac? [message #96412 is a reply to message #96395] Fri, 29 February 2008 07:55 Go to previous message
EK Sound is currently offline  EK Sound   CANADA
Messages: 939
Registered: June 2005
Senior Member
???? Never had OS9... I did have a "MAC Classic" though... ;-)

David.

James McCloskey wrote:
> Dale, it looks like Dave from EK Sound was offering you a OS 9 installer disk.
> Check back through the thread for his post. I would install OS9 on a separate
> hard disk or partition.
>
> "dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>1-800-SOS-APPLE will charge me $160, $40 per disk. Ouch.
>>
>>They also said that my single CD that came with my MDD (single, FW4000)
>
> mac
>
>>titled "Software install & restore" is supposed to do the trick, but I tried
>>everything I could think of without success. An Apple discussion forum ("Help!
>>Can't install 9.2.1 on G4 MDD") seem to confirm that either a 4-CD set or
>>a 2-DVD set that came with (some of?) these MDDs is the ticket.
>>
>>Any further ideas would be appreciated......thanks
>>
>>Dale
>>
>>
>>"dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Thanks James! I'll try that.
>>>
>>>
>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I would call 800 SOS APPLE and see what the restore disk would cost.
>
> I
>
>>>would
>>>
>>>>tell them you misplaced them. At one time they would send them out for
>>>
>>>free.
>>>
>>>>"dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>OS 9 (Classic) is installed (on more than one HD), but when I go to system
>>>>>Preferences / Startup Disk, the only Systems that show up to select to
>>>
>>>boot
>>>
>>>>>with are the OS X ones. It's my understanding that even a dragged-over
>>>
>>>system
>>>
>>>>>9 will work for classic, but to make system 9 bootable, the original
>
> disks
>
>>>>>(set of 4, I think) that came with the MDD must be used.
>>>>>
>>>>>What I'm wondering is, can these original MDD disks be copied? If not,
>>>
>>>then
>>>
>>>>>I guess I will bid high to try and snag the ones on Ebay.
>>>>>
>>>>>Dale
>>>>>
>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Did you check to see if OS9 is already installed? You can check by
>
> going
>
>>>>>>to system preferences, Start up disk. If there is an OS9 folder in
>
> there,
>
>>>>>>click on it and hit restart. I don't however think this will help you
>>>>
>>>>with
>>>>
>>>>>>OSX freeze ups. I would make an appointment at the Genus bar at your
>>>
>>>Apple
>>>
>>>>>>store and have them look at it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I downloaded the firmware update, but when I run the installer it says
>>>>>
>>>>>I
>>>>>
>>>>>>must
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>be booted into system 9. It is my understanding that in order to install
>>>>>>>a bootable system 9, I need the original install disk(s). I have a
>
> single
>
>>>>>>>install disk, but I've checked several apple forums, and unless I am
>>>
>>>missing
>>>
>>>>>>>something, the system 9 install stuff must be on a different disk that
>>>>>
>>>>>I
>>>>>
>>>>>>>don't have. The local Mac store won't sell me a replacement disk(s),
>>>
>>>but
>>>
>>>>>>>they say they will install system 9 onto my machine for $45.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Obviously, it would be preferable to have the disk(s) so I can re-install
>>>>>>>system 9 if/when necessary in the future.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I looked on Ebay, and there is a set of 4 install disks for MDD that
>>>>
>>>>is
>>>>
>>>>>>>up for sale, which I will try to bid on.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Does anyone have any other ideas on how to get these disks?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>Dale
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Mac OSX has protected memory, so I'd check the support site for the
>>>
>>>latest
>>>
>>>>>>>>firmware. Is the machine locking up running OSX? Do you have an
>
> Apple
>
>>>>>>>retail
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>store near you?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>thanks James,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>If I make this machine my Paris rig, I will be running OS9, but have
>>>>>
>>>>>not
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>tried that yet. I'm currently running 10.4.9, but also using Classic.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>think
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>it freezes up with classic running or not---but I can try not using
>>>>
>>>>Classic
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>and see if that makes a difference. Do you think I need to change
>>
>>some
>>
>>>>>>>kind
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>of settings in classic? Or allocate more memory to OS9 apps? I thought
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>OSX
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>automatically handled memory.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>Dale
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>My Dual Mirror door G4 dual 1.25 runs hot as well,but I've never
>>
>>had
>>
>>>>>>problems
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>with freeze up. Your problem may be hardware/heat related, but
>
> my
>
>>>>first
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>guess is software. There was a firmware down load related to heat
>>>>
>>>>and
>>>>
>>>>>>>>noise.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I would check Apple's support site for the latest firmware. Are
>>>>
>>>>you
>>>>
>>>>>>>>freezing
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>when running OS 9 or OSX? If your freezing in OS9, don't forget
>>
>>that
>>
>>>>>>>OS
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>9 does not have protected memory, so you may need to allocate more
>>>>
>>>>memory
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>to programs. It was the biggest flaw with Mac OS 9 and prior, users
>>>>>>
>>>>>>would
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>forget to up the memory for all the programs they are running and
>>>
>>>they'd
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>get a lock up or crash.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I hope this helps!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>James
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>"dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>To James & all you mac guys,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>I bought a Mirror Door Drive G4 mac (single processor) on Ebay
>
> about
>
>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>year
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>ago, with the idea of making it my Paris machine, but I thought
>>
>>I
>>
>>>>would
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>test
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>it first without Paris. At first it seemed to work fine, but it
>>
>>soon
>>
>>>>>>>started
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>freezing up, usually after a few hours of use. I opened the case
>>>
>>>and
>>>
>>>>>>>put
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>a 12" fan pointed directly at the processor, and it worked perfectly
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>for
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>awhile, but after a few months it was back to the old tricks. Definitely
>>>>>>>>>>>heat related, as it's worse on hot days or if I keep my computer
>>>
>>>closet
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>closed
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>with the light on.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Any ideas on what I might try?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>Dale
>>>>>>>>>>
>
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