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| Re: Played with mono EDS Reverb on inserts [message #57288 is a reply to message #57286] |
Fri, 26 August 2005 11:25   |
Tom Bruhl
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ww.beyondtheseathemovie.com" target="_blank">http://www.beyondtheseathemovie.com
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> DCWonderful. One of the best movies about a musician I have
ever seen. Kevin Spacey's love for his subject is in every frame,
and he sings all the parts himself. Quite well too.
Back in the 60's we all thought this "night club jazz" was way
too unhip for us... hah!
The first time I heard Sinatra from before 1955, it almost gave
me a stroke. My dad just played the later scooby-doo stuff,
and I had no idea what he had done earlier.
This will give you the same reaction for Bobby Darin.
Great, great movie. Not to be missed.
DC
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>Saw the rushes. Looked like great stuff.
>
>
>"DC" <dc@whodat.org> wrote in message news:430f6048$1@linux...
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>> This is really good...
>>
>> http://www.beyondtheseathemovie.com
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>> DC
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>Does it work with XP?
"Randy Brown" <randy@jealousymotel.com> wrote in message
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> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>>Autosave from AnalogX
>>How does this actually work ?
>>Does it overwrite on same named project or does it make copies like
>>"name"_1
>>, "name"_2 etc ?
>>Is it reliable ?
>>Regards,
>
> Yep, I'm doing it right now. I wrote a bat file to run autosave and then
> crank up paris from my desktop. One click and off you go. No real
> problems.
> A few agravations, like everytime you change a project you have to tell
> him
> to save it again. But other than that. It works well. I have found that it
> helps me especially when editing as one false editing move sometimes bales
> me out of Paris and I lose everything. Autosave helps that a bunch.
>
> Randy Brown
>>Dimitrios
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>>
>This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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Thank you Tom for your kind words.
Regards,
Dimitrios
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:430f5e50@linux...
Dimitrios is awesome.
Right?
Tom
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message =
news:430f5887@linux...
Oh,
So I guess I brought some old "fresh" idea around...
With wires you could assign the the out wire to an effect return =
wire in to
save on Paris channels.
I also tried the wires with drumtracks.
You could send all drumtracks to the same wire channel (i.e. 0 ) and =
then
open a new Paris channel that hass all drums on it.
Then apply a EDS effect like compressor....
I guess you have tried that already right ?
Regards,
Dimitrios
ps: I installed subsystem effects on Me !
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:430f4cce@linux...
> Hmmmmm.........never thought to use the EDS reverb on an insert.
> Always used 3rd party plugins. Cool idea with the wires.
>
> Deej
>
> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message =
news:430f4039$1@linux...
> > I finally tried the mono versions of EDS reverbs on channel =
inserts .
> > What I found to my surprise is that the same effects remain in =
the aux
as
> > stereo which I somewhere read that this could not be... anyway.
> > The problem is that there is no dry/wet control when used as =
inserts but
> the
> > "wires" come to rescue.
> > Just routing the channel to another that serves as a reverb mono =
return
> with
> > eq and extra effects if you please....
> > Anyone has some extra experience ?
> > Regards,
> > Dimitrios
> >
> >
>
>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thank you Tom for your kind =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Regards,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dimitrios</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dimitrios is awesome.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Right?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV>"Dimitrios" <<A=20
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guess I brought some old "fresh" idea around...<BR>With wires you =
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channels.<BR>I also tried the wires with drumtracks.<BR>You could =
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compressor....<BR>I guess you have tried that already right=20
?<BR>Regards,<BR>Dimitrios<BR><BR>ps: I installed subsystem effects =
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!<BR><BR>"DJ" <<A=20
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| Re: Played with mono EDS Reverb on inserts [message #57293 is a reply to message #57287] |
Fri, 26 August 2005 14:09 |
Dimitrios
Messages: 1056
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>
Pete
"DC" <dc@whodat.org> wrote:
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>This is really good...
>
>http://www.beyondtheseathemovie.com
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>DCYes.
Formatting with Z:64 simly changes how the drive stores the information on
the hdd. It makes the (I think) cluster size as big as possible, so when
you're retreiving large files like audio files, it takes as few clusters
as possible, meaning less traffic and mucking about by your OS to get the
information on and off the drive.
As I understand it, if you format an 80 gig hdd and also format a 60 gig
hdd, they will have different Z settings by default, hence there are no file
compatibility issues between the different settings. It just controls the
size of each data chunk on the drive, but a file read on or to the drive
will come off again exactly as it was.
Cheers,
Kim.
"Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>I'm formatting a 120gb HD in Win 98SE. What the heck is the relationship,
>if any, between FAT32 and z:64? If a drive is formatted with the z:64 "switch"
>on, can I copy files to it that have been previously saved on an HD formatted
>with FAT32? I've searched the net high and low before asking here. All
>my previous Paris audio drives have been formatted (with drive overlays
-no
>more of that....) with FAT32.
>Thanks,
>MRThere is a code line hack if I remember right, but you lose the verbs on the
auxes?
Talk to me Dimitrious, I'm interested in this approach you're taking !
AA
"Gantt Kushner" <gizmo@his.com> wrote in message
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> How do you do that?
>
> Dimitrios wrote:
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>> I finally tried the mono versions of EDS reverbs on channel inserts .
>> What I found to my surprise is that the same effects remain in the aux as
>> stereo which I somewhere read that this could not be... anyway.
>> The problem is that there is no dry/wet control when used as inserts but
>> the
>> "wires" come to rescue.
>> Just routing the channel to another that serves as a reverb mono return
>> with
>> eq and extra effects if you please....
>> Anyone has some extra experience ?
>> Regards,
>> Dimitrios
>somehow i really do theink kim is the man for the job...mefreakinyow.
On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 11:15:56 -0600, "DJ"
<animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>So you're the tin man, eh? With the clothes I wear around here, all I need
>to do is go out and jump in the haystack and I could be the scarecrow. Now
>all we need is someone with a lion suit and a drag queen who impersonates
>Judy Garland.
>
>"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:flgug15spv1qhhprnumn6sftdd8mvctmbt@4ax.com...
>> ain't nuthin' like a good tin foil hat...keeps you safe and gives you
>> ideas.
>>
>> ;o)
>>
>> On 26 Aug 2005 20:46:43 +1000, "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >>have you tried a 98se install just to see if the board just works?
>> >
>> >No. That's not a bad idea actually...
>> >
>> >Cheers,
>> >Kim.
>>
>HI,
NO you are not loosing the reverbs on AUXES !
Thats what I heard before but I tried.
I use Me and I have the subsystem installed in Me....
Even the stereo perspective is rtained in auxes !
Regards,
Dimitrios
"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message news:430faf90@linux...
> There is a code line hack if I remember right, but you lose the verbs on
the
> auxes?
> Talk to me Dimitrious, I'm interested in this approach you're taking !
>
> AA
>
>
> "Gantt Kushner" <gizmo@his.com> wrote in message
> news:430F99CF.36C1F3BF@his.com...
> > How do you do that?
> >
> > Dimitrios wrote:
> >
> >> I finally tried the mono versions of EDS reverbs on channel inserts .
> >> What I found to my surprise is that the same effects remain in the aux
as
> >> stereo which I somewhere read that this could not be... anyway.
> >> The problem is that there is no dry/wet control when used as inserts
but
> >> the
> >> "wires" come to rescue.
> >> Just routing the channel to another that serves as a reverb mono return
> >> with
> >> eq and extra effects if you please....
> >> Anyone has some extra experience ?
> >> Regards,
> >> Dimitrios
> >
>
>Here is the file to modify stockfx.ini
"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message news:430faf90@linux...
> There is a code line hack if I remember right, but you lose the verbs on
the
> auxes?
> Talk to me Dimitrious, I'm interested in this approach you're taking !
>
> AA
>
>
> "Gantt Kushner" <gizmo@his.com> wrote in message
> news:430F99CF.36C1F3BF@his.com...
> > How do you do that?
> >
> > Dimitrios wrote:
> >
> >> I finally tried the mono versions of EDS reverbs on channel inserts .
> >> What I found to my surprise is that the same effects remain in the aux
as
> >> stereo which I somewhere read that this could not be... anyway.
> >> The problem is that there is no dry/wet control when used as inserts
but
> >> the
> >> "wires" come to rescue.
> >> Just routing the channel to another that serves as a reverb mono return
> >> with
> >> eq and extra effects if you please....
> >> Anyone has some extra experience ?
> >> Regards,
> >> Dimitrios
> >
>
>
You add all the following at the end of the stockfx.ini file in your
system\ensoniq\plugins folder for Me Win98 and in system32\ensoniq\plugins
As I said for effecting a group of channels with EDS effect you put wire out
0# in aux1 first slot effect.
Then you engage the aux1 on the channels you wanna further process like kick
snare hihat and overheads.
Then you go to an empty track and put on eds effect slot wire in #0 , there
you will have a mix of all your engaged drumtracks.
Note that having AUX1 same level for all tracks you can have the same rouph
balancing of levels as you have on your indivindual tracks.
Then you put a EDS compressor.a reverb (mono version) whatever.
There is some samples delay on that but anyway...
Regards,
Dimitrios
; BEGIN HERE
; Extra mono patches for the existing reverbs. Remove lines from here to
; the bottom of the file if things go pear-shaped.
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patch ePlatePatch2
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box espPlateBox plat
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Fri, 26 August 2005 15:38 |
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parm outL { extPortId:0 }
parm inL { extPortId:0 }
ui little alLayoutPatchUI { l:150 t:50 w:300 h:300 title:"Room Rev"
shortTitle:"Room" dline:"Room" bgPattern:patchBg statusBttnFl:1 }
box smroomBox0 ui0 { l:1 t:1 }
endui
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parm outL { extPortId:0 }
parm inL { extPortId:0 }
ui little alLayoutPatchUI { l:150 t:50 w:300 h:300 title:"Non Lin Rev"
shortTitle:"NonLin"
Gantt Kushner
Gizmo Recording Company
Silver Spring, MD
www.gizmorecording.com
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| Re: Played with mono EDS Reverb on inserts [message #57302 is a reply to message #57301] |
Sat, 27 August 2005 02:32 |
Dimitrios
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r />
3.I open aux1 and aux 2 on all drumtracks, here I have one kick, two =
snares
(top/bottom) two overheads (L and R) one ride and three toms
.
4. Now I put all auxes on pre post and I put all faders down to zero.
5. I put all drumtracks in the stereo field i.e Overheads L I open =
only aux1
and close aux2, the opposite for overhead R, the volume now is on =
auxe's
knob.
For kick I have both aux1 and aux 2 engaged with same volume for both
etc....
6 I can leave the return of the drumtracks on auxe's returns but I use
instead wire out #0 for aux 1 and wire out #1 for aux 2
7. Then I go to two free audio tracks and put there wire in #0 and #1
accordingly.
8. I pan them hardwired left and right. I can take it further with eq =
or
whatever from there....
So I have a compressed drummix stereo with EDS compressor using two
instances of EDS comp.
9. You can write down the compressed stereo track and bring it in =
along with
unprocessed drumtracks ,slide it until it sounds right nad voila.
I really like the eds compressor on gentle crush setting , I also =
favour the
Opto.
Cheers,
Dimitrios
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I wonder if your stereo compressor is =
'really'=20
stereo in</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the way it triggers. I'd worry =
for instance=20
that the left </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>could trigger </FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>because of a tom strike but the right would not.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Wouldn't it be easier to run a stereo =
EDS comp in=20
aux 1,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>send your drum mix to it how you like =
using aux=20
sends and </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>route the output </FONT><FONT =
face=3DArial size=3D2>of=20
aux 1 via external to two channels by</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>patching aux 1 to spdif in and out and =
then to two=20
channels? </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Print them to disk and </FONT><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>compensate </FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>for latency that=20
there?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>1ms does it for me at that point =
assuming no look=20
ahead. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Don't forget the spdif cable =
</FONT><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2>connected looping from in to out </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>on the Mec.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Seems like the easiest way =
using EDS=20
effects. Of course you</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>can also throw in any other VST effects =
once the=20
tracks have been</FONT></DIV>
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