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| Re: BTW: Paris XP, K8NS ultra939...any pitfalls??..(Kim?)..thanks! [message #70101 is a reply to message #70100] |
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Deej [1]
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That's what pisses me off so much about mobo's these days. If it's a 5 slot
board and 1 & 5 share with each other, then you've got 4 potentially usable
IRQ's out of 5 slots. If slots 1 & 5 share with the AGP then you've only got
3 and then it's Magma time, asnd 13 slot Magma time at that if you're
running lots of hardware because a 7 slot backplane wil not allow but 2 PCI
cards to share the same IRQ and 3 of them seem to glom on to the AGP IRQ, no
matter what. The 13 slot model is much more forgiving.
Deej
"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:44b00626@linux...
> What slots are each card in. Also, their manual didn't mention what agp
> uses for irq and whether it shares or not. Can't you tell on boot up
> when that black resource screen shows what's on what?
>
> It would be good to know if you have 4 or 5 independent IRQs
> 2,3,4,1/5,agp
>
> I run my 2 eds cards on the same IRQ 3 on my box.
>
> John
>
> Kim W. wrote:
> > Just returned from "The Dungeon", and am happy to report that
> > all appears to be working.
> > (4 EDS's, 2 Nvidia Qudras).
> > Thus far I have no DX/VST plugins installed.
> > (In the past this is where my installs have come unstuck.)
> > After initial disappointment with the dreaded Crash-on-
> > exit, I remembered about the "minimum install" effects subsystem fix,
with
> > wires.
> > Applying this seems to have cured the COE.
> > I'm pretty stoked at the moment, and have ghosted.
> > All slots are full, and there appears to be some sharing going on,(I
attached
> > a screen grab)
> > but time will tell if it causes any problems. I just bunged all
> > four EDS's in, and let the system allocate resources as it
> > seemed fit.
> > I did, however, disable the SATA, and the parallel port in the bios.
> > Time for bed, as it's been 12 hours since I deemed it "Beer O'clock".
> >
> > "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >
> >>>It doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5, unless
> >>
> >>that's
> >>
> >>>just assumed...? I know often 1 shares with AGP.
> >>
> >>Kim...........if PCI 1 and 5 "do not" share with the AGP, this is
> >>potentially a HUGE deal and this would be the most flexible (semi
current)
> >>mobo in existence today for 939 CPU's. I cannot find any reference to
this
> >>in the Gigabyte manual. When/if it is possible, could you insert a PCI
card
> >>in slot 1 or 5 (or both), then load the drivers for whatever that device
> >
> > is,
> >
> >>then go to your system info, look under system resources, navigate to
> >>hardware resources>IRQ and let us know if the device(s) in PCI slots 1
or
> >
> > 5
> >
> >>is/are sharing an IRQ with the AGP? If not, I'm gonna be thinking hard
about
> >>switching mobo's on my Paris rig and trying to get that duallie CPU
> >>happening with my Paris rig. Theis could conceivably allow 5 x EDS cards
> >
> > to
> >
> >>operate on a dual core Athlon. I would do this here, but I don't have
all
> >>the componentry that I need yet and the ergonomics of moving all of my
EDS
> >>cards to a Magma chassis (which is already being used by another DAW) is
> >>something that would take my entire studio down for a couple of days,
and
> >>I'm pretty busy right now.
> >>
> >>Deej
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:44afb30d$1@linux...
> >>
> >>>
> >>>Mine doesn't show that it's sharing with AGP, though 1 does share with
> >
> > 5.
> >
> >>>It has a BIOS window you can go to which allows you to set manually
which
> >>>interrupt each slot uses, and tells you what will be sharing with it if
> >>
> >>you
> >>
> >>>use that one. I have some things sharing, but everything is working
fine
> >>>so I'm not concerned. Firewire shares with an EDS for example, but I
never
> >>>use Paris and firewire together so that's not really a problem.
> >>>
> >>>It doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5, unless
> >>
> >>that's
> >>
> >>>just assumed...? I know often 1 shares with AGP.
> >>>
> >>>Cheers,
> >>>Kim.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>John <no@no.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>lack of interrupt control is a deal breaker for me
> >>>>
> >>>>Kim wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>The biggest pitfall I found with the K8NS was that while the manual
> >>
> >>states
> >>
> >>>>>you have pretty good interrupt control, they actually removed it from
> >>>
> >>>the
> >>>
> >>>>>bios. The latest BIOS which gives you proper interrupt control
(unless
> >>>
> >>>they've
> >>>
> >>>>>added it back - haven't checked for months) is version F6, which I
> >
> > use.
> >
> >>>It's
> >>>
> >>>>>quite old but I haven't had any issues. The thing never crashes. It's
> >>>
> >>>maybe
> >>>
> >>>>>crashed once or twice since I've had it, which is about 12 months
now.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>My motherboard seems to have a quirk in the BIOS and I'm currently
> >>
> >>running
> >>
> >>>>>on the backup BIOS on the board, but she runs fine like that. It
> >>
> >>forgets
> >>
> >>>>>HDD's on startup. Not sure why... (unless it's a quirk of the F6
> >>
> >>firmware,
> >>
> >>>>>but that seems unlikely...)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Apart from that though it's great. I run only a two card system
though,
> >>>
> >>>and
> >>>
> >>>>>only dual head video (A Nvidia card currently) but have had no issues
> >>>
> >>>apart
> >>>
> >>>>>from the BIOS losing hdd's on startup which appears to be a MB fault
> >>
> >>(should
> >>
> >>>>>take it back before my warranty runs out...).
> >>>>>
> >>>>>It's quick though, and very stable. I'm happy with it. :o)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Cheers,
> >>>>>Kim.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
> >>>>>>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
> >>>>>>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
> >>>>>>Cheers.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Hi, all.
> >>>>>>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
> >>>>>>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view to
> >>
> >>upgrade
> >>
> >>>>>>>at some stage.
> >>>>>>>It appears the time is nigh!!
> >>>>>>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
> >>>>>>>is one of the fave mobos.
> >>>>>>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
> >>>>>>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far as
> >>
> >>which
> >>
> >>>>>>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in an
> >>
> >>attempt
> >>
> >>>>>>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
> >>>>>>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four
> >>
> >>C-16's.
> >>
> >>>>>>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
> >>>>>>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
> >>>>>>>Did it pan out for you??
> >>>>>>>Thanks,
> >>>>>>>Kim #2.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>
> >>
>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------
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| Re: BTW: Paris XP, K8NS ultra939...any pitfalls??..(Kim?)..thanks! [message #70110 is a reply to message #70092] |
Sat, 08 July 2006 17:18 |
Martin Harrington
Messages: 560
Registered: September 2005
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How could Coopers be any good, look at the river the water comes from?
It's full of all the crap us northerners dump into it ;p.
But...I doo like Coopers Pale anything once in a while, but really prefer
Little Creatures, or Blue Tongue.
--
Martin Harrington
www.lendanear-sound.com
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:44afdcc7$1@linux...
>
>
> Ah, Pale Ale. My mate Trev texted me the other day claiming that Pale Ale
> was "the best beer EVER!!", though I don't quite agree. I'd go a Little
> Creatures
> myself, though Coopers is a very nice drop...
>
> Glad you got them all in. Any room left in there for John's Emu card? ;o)
> Not with two Quardo cards I guess...
>
> Which slots did you use for what? Normally you'd use AGP and Slot 1 for
> graphics,
> but given 1 shares with 5 and may not share with AGP perhaps it would be
> better to have the EDS cards in 1 & 5 and the Quadro in another slot in
> between...?
>
> Let us know how you go anyhow. I'm interested to know what she can take.
> Might buy me another EDS card some day. :o)
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.
>
>
>
> "Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>
>>It lives, It breathes.
>>Now I gotta get it off the kitchen table and into the studio.
>>(after installing both Quadro cards and drivers).
>>Lookin' good so far! Time to Ghost.
>>Pale Ale Powered, Kim.
>>BTW. Check your e-mail.
>>
>>
>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>Ah, yes, sorry, I'd forgotten to consider physical limitations of four
> massive
>>>cards. I only have two cards, which fitted fine, though I do recall some
>>>of the MB connectors were in annoying positions...
>>>
>>>..
>>
>>.NOW I remember... fat use I am!! ;o)
>>>
>>>Coopers Green or Red? Did somebody do a beer run...?
>>>
>>>...I think I have some coopers green in the fridge still...
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Kim.
>>>
>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>The Butchery begins!!
>>>>I gotta get all four EDS cards in here!!
>>>>So far I've had to bend the firewire header pins south, and
>>>>remove the perforated chipset fan cover.
>>>>This is getting REALLY interesting.
>>>>I'm glad I have a thick skin at this point...courtesy of Coopers!!
>>>>
>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>AMD patch...
>>>>>
>>>>>...rrrrrrEALLY?!?
>>>>>
>>>>>...sounds like you're just the man to do some testing. ;o)
>>>>>
>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>
>>>>>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>>>>>That's the same mobo that I have sitting here with the AMD 64 4200 x
>>2
>>>>CPU
>>>>>>sitting in it..........and there's an AMD patch out there now that
>>>>>>*might*
>>>>>>allow Paris to operate with a dual core CPU.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Hmmmm......
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:44af8c47$1@linux...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nope, this one... five slots:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.giga-byte.com/Products/Motherboard/Products_Overv iew.aspx?Product
>>>>>>ID=1839
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you stick with BIOS rev F6 it has interrupt control in the BIOS
>>for
>>>>>>each
>>>>>>> slot. It's close to as good as I've seen with interrupt control.
>>>>>>> It's
>>>>>not
>>>>>>> perfect... I think slot 1 shares with 5 or something, but you can
>>>>>>seperate
>>>>>>> as much as you're likely to be able to on anything else.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ...and it's really stable and really quick. :o)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Kim.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >Is this the board?
>>>>>> http://www.giga-byte.com/Products/Motherboard/Products_Spec. aspx?ProductID=1
>>>>>>868
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >I'm looking for a board that has more slots. And I need the slots
>>>to
>>>>>not
>>>>>>> >be shared with other resources. Right now I have 3 slots on an
>>>>>>> >Asus
>>>>>>mx800
>>>>>>> >and 1 shares irq with sound and another with agp card. When will
>>IRQ
>>>>>>hell
>>>>>>> >end !!! Probably when I get rid of Paris! hehe In the meantime
>>I
>>>>need
>>>>>>> >a better motherboard.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>>>>>>> >>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>>>>>>> >>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>>>>>>> >>Cheers.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>>Hi, all.
>>>>>>> >>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>>>>>>> >>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view
>>to
>>>>>>upgrade
>>>>>>> >>>at some stage.
>>>>>>> >>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>>>>>>> >>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
>>>>>>> >>>is one of the fave mobos.
>>>>>>> >>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the
>>>>>>> >>>Gigabyte.)
>>>>>>> >>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far
>>as
>>>>>>which
>>>>>>> >>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in
>>>an
>>>>>>attempt
>>>>>>> >>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>>>>>>> >>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four
>>C-16's.
>>>>>>> >>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>>>>>>> >>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>>>>>>> >>>Did it pan out for you??
>>>>>>> >>>Thanks,
>>>>>>> >>>Kim #2.
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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| Re: BTW: Paris XP, K8NS ultra939...any pitfalls??..(Kim?)..thanks! [message #70114 is a reply to message #70101] |
Sat, 08 July 2006 17:50 |
John [1]
Messages: 2229
Registered: September 2005
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It's horseshit ! What a great reason to buy a Macintosh yes ?
I know rick loves them (kidding, hehe).
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>That's what pisses me off so much about mobo's these days. If it's a 5 slot
>board and 1 & 5 share with each other, then you've got 4 potentially usable
>IRQ's out of 5 slots. If slots 1 & 5 share with the AGP then you've only
got
>3 and then it's Magma time, asnd 13 slot Magma time at that if you're
>running lots of hardware because a 7 slot backplane wil not allow but 2
PCI
>cards to share the same IRQ and 3 of them seem to glom on to the AGP IRQ,
no
>matter what. The 13 slot model is much more forgiving.
>
>Deej
>
>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:44b00626@linux...
>> What slots are each card in. Also, their manual didn't mention what agp
>> uses for irq and whether it shares or not. Can't you tell on boot up
>> when that black resource screen shows what's on what?
>>
>> It would be good to know if you have 4 or 5 independent IRQs
>> 2,3,4,1/5,agp
>>
>> I run my 2 eds cards on the same IRQ 3 on my box.
>>
>> John
>>
>> Kim W. wrote:
>> > Just returned from "The Dungeon", and am happy to report that
>> > all appears to be working.
>> > (4 EDS's, 2 Nvidia Qudras).
>> > Thus far I have no DX/VST plugins installed.
>> > (In the past this is where my installs have come unstuck.)
>> > After initial disappointment with the dreaded Crash-on-
>> > exit, I remembered about the "minimum install" effects subsystem fix,
>with
>> > wires.
>> > Applying this seems to have cured the COE.
>> > I'm pretty stoked at the moment, and have ghosted.
>> > All slots are full, and there appears to be some sharing going on,(I
>attached
>> > a screen grab)
>> > but time will tell if it causes any problems. I just bunged all
>> > four EDS's in, and let the system allocate resources as it
>> > seemed fit.
>> > I did, however, disable the SATA, and the parallel port in the bios.
>> > Time for bed, as it's been 12 hours since I deemed it "Beer O'clock".
>> >
>> > "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >>>It doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5, unless
>> >>
>> >>that's
>> >>
>> >>>just assumed...? I know often 1 shares with AGP.
>> >>
>> >>Kim...........if PCI 1 and 5 "do not" share with the AGP, this is
>> >>potentially a HUGE deal and this would be the most flexible (semi
>current)
>> >>mobo in existence today for 939 CPU's. I cannot find any reference to
>this
>> >>in the Gigabyte manual. When/if it is possible, could you insert a PCI
>card
>> >>in slot 1 or 5 (or both), then load the drivers for whatever that device
>> >
>> > is,
>> >
>> >>then go to your system info, look under system resources, navigate to
>> >>hardware resources>IRQ and let us know if the device(s) in PCI slots
1
>or
>> >
>> > 5
>> >
>> >>is/are sharing an IRQ with the AGP? If not, I'm gonna be thinking hard
>about
>> >>switching mobo's on my Paris rig and trying to get that duallie CPU
>> >>happening with my Paris rig. Theis could conceivably allow 5 x EDS cards
>> >
>> > to
>> >
>> >>operate on a dual core Athlon. I would do this here, but I don't have
>all
>> >>the componentry that I need yet and the ergonomics of moving all of
my
>EDS
>> >>cards to a Magma chassis (which is already being used by another DAW)
is
>> >>something that would take my entire studio down for a couple of days,
>and
>> >>I'm pretty busy right now.
>> >>
>> >>Deej
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:44afb30d$1@linux...
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>>Mine doesn't show that it's sharing with AGP, though 1 does share with
>> >
>> > 5.
>> >
>> >>>It has a BIOS window you can go to which allows you to set manually
>which
>> >>>interrupt each slot uses, and tells you what will be sharing with it
if
>> >>
>> >>you
>> >>
>> >>>use that one. I have some things sharing, but everything is working
>fine
>> >>>so I'm not concerned. Firewire shares with an EDS for example, but
I
>never
>> >>>use Paris and firewire together so that's not really a problem.
>> >>>
>> >>>It doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5, unless
>> >>
>> >>that's
>> >>
>> >>>just assumed...? I know often 1 shares with AGP.
>> >>>
>> >>>Cheers,
>> >>>Kim.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>John <no@no.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>>lack of interrupt control is a deal breaker for me
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Kim wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>The biggest pitfall I found with the K8NS was that while the manual
>> >>
>> >>states
>> >>
>> >>>>>you have pretty good interrupt control, they actually removed it
from
>> >>>
>> >>>the
>> >>>
>> >>>>>bios. The latest BIOS which gives you proper interrupt control
>(unless
>> >>>
>> >>>they've
>> >>>
>> >>>>>added it back - haven't checked for months) is version F6, which
I
>> >
>> > use.
>> >
>> >>>It's
>> >>>
>> >>>>>quite old but I haven't had any issues. The thing never crashes.
It's
>> >>>
>> >>>maybe
>> >>>
>> >>>>>crashed once or twice since I've had it, which is about 12 months
>now.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>My motherboard seems to have a quirk in the BIOS and I'm currently
>> >>
>> >>running
>> >>
>> >>>>>on the backup BIOS on the board, but she runs fine like that. It
>> >>
>> >>forgets
>> >>
>> >>>>>HDD's on startup. Not sure why... (unless it's a quirk of the F6
>> >>
>> >>firmware,
>> >>
>> >>>>>but that seems unlikely...)
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Apart from that though it's great. I run only a two card system
>though,
>> >>>
>> >>>and
>> >>>
>> >>>>>only dual head video (A Nvidia card currently) but have had no issues
>> >>>
>> >>>apart
>> >>>
>> >>>>>from the BIOS losing hdd's on startup which appears to be a MB fault
>> >>
>> >>(should
>> >>
>> >>>>>take it back before my warranty runs out...).
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>It's quick though, and very stable. I'm happy with it. :o)
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Cheers,
>> >>>>>Kim.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>> >>>>>>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>> >>>>>>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>> >>>>>>Cheers.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>Hi, all.
>> >>>>>>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>> >>>>>>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view
to
>> >>
>> >>upgrade
>> >>
>> >>>>>>>at some stage.
>> >>>>>>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>> >>>>>>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
>> >>>>>>>is one of the fave mobos.
>> >>>>>>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>> >>>>>>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far
as
>> >>
>> >>which
>> >>
>> >>>>>>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in
an
>> >>
>> >>attempt
>> >>
>> >>>>>>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>> >>>>>>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four
>> >>
>> >>C-16's.
>> >>
>> >>>>>>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>> >>>>>>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>> >>>>>>>Did it pan out for you??
>> >>>>>>>Thanks,
>> >>>>>>>Kim #2.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
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>> >>
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| Re: BTW: Paris XP, K8NS ultra939...any pitfalls??..(Kim?)..thanks! [message #70115 is a reply to message #70114] |
Sat, 08 July 2006 18:04 |
Deej [1]
Messages: 2149
Registered: January 2006
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Macs don't have PCI slots any more........plus I personally prefer the
win OS.
"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:44b052c2$1@linux...
>
> It's horseshit ! What a great reason to buy a Macintosh yes ?
> I know rick loves them (kidding, hehe).
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >That's what pisses me off so much about mobo's these days. If it's a 5
slot
> >board and 1 & 5 share with each other, then you've got 4 potentially
usable
> >IRQ's out of 5 slots. If slots 1 & 5 share with the AGP then you've only
> got
> >3 and then it's Magma time, asnd 13 slot Magma time at that if you're
> >running lots of hardware because a 7 slot backplane wil not allow but 2
> PCI
> >cards to share the same IRQ and 3 of them seem to glom on to the AGP IRQ,
> no
> >matter what. The 13 slot model is much more forgiving.
> >
> >Deej
> >
> >"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:44b00626@linux...
> >> What slots are each card in. Also, their manual didn't mention what
agp
> >> uses for irq and whether it shares or not. Can't you tell on boot up
> >> when that black resource screen shows what's on what?
> >>
> >> It would be good to know if you have 4 or 5 independent IRQs
> >> 2,3,4,1/5,agp
> >>
> >> I run my 2 eds cards on the same IRQ 3 on my box.
> >>
> >> John
> >>
> >> Kim W. wrote:
> >> > Just returned from "The Dungeon", and am happy to report that
> >> > all appears to be working.
> >> > (4 EDS's, 2 Nvidia Qudras).
> >> > Thus far I have no DX/VST plugins installed.
> >> > (In the past this is where my installs have come unstuck.)
> >> > After initial disappointment with the dreaded Crash-on-
> >> > exit, I remembered about the "minimum install" effects subsystem fix,
> >with
> >> > wires.
> >> > Applying this seems to have cured the COE.
> >> > I'm pretty stoked at the moment, and have ghosted.
> >> > All slots are full, and there appears to be some sharing going on,(I
> >attached
> >> > a screen grab)
> >> > but time will tell if it causes any problems. I just bunged all
> >> > four EDS's in, and let the system allocate resources as it
> >> > seemed fit.
> >> > I did, however, disable the SATA, and the parallel port in the bios.
> >> > Time for bed, as it's been 12 hours since I deemed it "Beer O'clock".
> >> >
> >> > "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>>It doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5, unless
> >> >>
> >> >>that's
> >> >>
> >> >>>just assumed...? I know often 1 shares with AGP.
> >> >>
> >> >>Kim...........if PCI 1 and 5 "do not" share with the AGP, this is
> >> >>potentially a HUGE deal and this would be the most flexible (semi
> >current)
> >> >>mobo in existence today for 939 CPU's. I cannot find any reference to
> >this
> >> >>in the Gigabyte manual. When/if it is possible, could you insert a
PCI
> >card
> >> >>in slot 1 or 5 (or both), then load the drivers for whatever that
device
> >> >
> >> > is,
> >> >
> >> >>then go to your system info, look under system resources, navigate to
> >> >>hardware resources>IRQ and let us know if the device(s) in PCI slots
> 1
> >or
> >> >
> >> > 5
> >> >
> >> >>is/are sharing an IRQ with the AGP? If not, I'm gonna be thinking
hard
> >about
> >> >>switching mobo's on my Paris rig and trying to get that duallie CPU
> >> >>happening with my Paris rig. Theis could conceivably allow 5 x EDS
cards
> >> >
> >> > to
> >> >
> >> >>operate on a dual core Athlon. I would do this here, but I don't have
> >all
> >> >>the componentry that I need yet and the ergonomics of moving all of
> my
> >EDS
> >> >>cards to a Magma chassis (which is already being used by another DAW)
> is
> >> >>something that would take my entire studio down for a couple of days,
> >and
> >> >>I'm pretty busy right now.
> >> >>
> >> >>Deej
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:44afb30d$1@linux...
> >> >>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Mine doesn't show that it's sharing with AGP, though 1 does share
with
> >> >
> >> > 5.
> >> >
> >> >>>It has a BIOS window you can go to which allows you to set manually
> >which
> >> >>>interrupt each slot uses, and tells you what will be sharing with it
> if
> >> >>
> >> >>you
> >> >>
> >> >>>use that one. I have some things sharing, but everything is working
> >fine
> >> >>>so I'm not concerned. Firewire shares with an EDS for example, but
> I
> >never
> >> >>>use Paris and firewire together so that's not really a problem.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>It doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5, unless
> >> >>
> >> >>that's
> >> >>
> >> >>>just assumed...? I know often 1 shares with AGP.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Cheers,
> >> >>>Kim.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>John <no@no.com> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>lack of interrupt control is a deal breaker for me
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>Kim wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>The biggest pitfall I found with the K8NS was that while the
manual
> >> >>
> >> >>states
> >> >>
> >> >>>>>you have pretty good interrupt control, they actually removed it
> from
> >> >>>
> >> >>>the
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>>bios. The latest BIOS which gives you proper interrupt control
> >(unless
> >> >>>
> >> >>>they've
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>>added it back - haven't checked for months) is version F6, which
> I
> >> >
> >> > use.
> >> >
> >> >>>It's
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>>quite old but I haven't had any issues. The thing never crashes.
> It's
> >> >>>
> >> >>>maybe
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>>crashed once or twice since I've had it, which is about 12 months
> >now.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>My motherboard seems to have a quirk in the BIOS and I'm currently
> >> >>
> >> >>running
> >> >>
> >> >>>>>on the backup BIOS on the board, but she runs fine like that. It
> >> >>
> >> >>forgets
> >> >>
> >> >>>>>HDD's on startup. Not sure why... (unless it's a quirk of the F6
> >> >>
> >> >>firmware,
> >> >>
> >> >>>>>but that seems unlikely...)
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>Apart from that though it's great. I run only a two card system
> >though,
> >> >>>
> >> >>>and
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>>only dual head video (A Nvidia card currently) but have had no
issues
> >> >>>
> >> >>>apart
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>>from the BIOS losing hdd's on startup which appears to be a MB
fault
> >> >>
> >> >>(should
> >> >>
> >> >>>>>take it back before my warranty runs out...).
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>It's quick though, and very stable. I'm happy with it. :o)
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>Cheers,
> >> >>>>>Kim.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
> >> >>>>>>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
> >> >>>>>>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
> >> >>>>>>Cheers.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>Hi, all.
> >> >>>>>>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
> >> >>>>>>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view
> to
> >> >>
> >> >>upgrade
> >> >>
> >> >>>>>>>at some stage.
> >> >>>>>>>It appears the time is nigh!!
> >> >>>>>>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the
K8NS
> >> >>>>>>>is one of the fave mobos.
> >> >>>>>>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the
Gigabyte.)
> >> >>>>>>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far
> as
> >> >>
> >> >>which
> >> >>
> >> >>>>>>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in
> an
> >> >>
> >> >>attempt
> >> >>
> >> >>>>>>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
> >> >>>>>>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four
> >> >>
> >> >>C-16's.
> >> >>
> >> >>>>>>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
> >> >>>>>>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
> >> >>>>>>>Did it pan out for you??
> >> >>>>>>>Thanks,
> >> >>>>>>>Kim #2.
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------
> >> >>
> >
> >
>
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| Re: BTW: Paris XP, K8NS ultra939...any pitfalls??..(Kim?)..thanks! [message #70116 is a reply to message #70097] |
Sat, 08 July 2006 18:16 |
Kim
Messages: 1246
Registered: October 2005
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Senior Member |
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I'll have a look at it. I should actually be ablt to work it out I expect
with just a reboot. If the reboot says they're not sharing then I'll plug
a card in to proove it.
Cheers,
Kim.
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>> It doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5, unless
>that's
>> just assumed...? I know often 1 shares with AGP.
>
>Kim...........if PCI 1 and 5 "do not" share with the AGP, this is
>potentially a HUGE deal and this would be the most flexible (semi current)
>mobo in existence today for 939 CPU's. I cannot find any reference to this
>in the Gigabyte manual. When/if it is possible, could you insert a PCI card
>in slot 1 or 5 (or both), then load the drivers for whatever that device
is,
>then go to your system info, look under system resources, navigate to
>hardware resources>IRQ and let us know if the device(s) in PCI slots 1 or
5
>is/are sharing an IRQ with the AGP? If not, I'm gonna be thinking hard about
>switching mobo's on my Paris rig and trying to get that duallie CPU
>happening with my Paris rig. Theis could conceivably allow 5 x EDS cards
to
>operate on a dual core Athlon. I would do this here, but I don't have all
>the componentry that I need yet and the ergonomics of moving all of my EDS
>cards to a Magma chassis (which is already being used by another DAW) is
>something that would take my entire studio down for a couple of days, and
>I'm pretty busy right now.
>
>Deej
>
>
>
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:44afb30d$1@linux...
>>
>>
>> Mine doesn't show that it's sharing with AGP, though 1 does share with
5.
>>
>> It has a BIOS window you can go to which allows you to set manually which
>> interrupt each slot uses, and tells you what will be sharing with it if
>you
>> use that one. I have some things sharing, but everything is working fine
>> so I'm not concerned. Firewire shares with an EDS for example, but I never
>> use Paris and firewire together so that's not really a problem.
>>
>> It doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5, unless
>that's
>> just assumed...? I know often 1 shares with AGP.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kim.
>>
>>
>>
>> John <no@no.com> wrote:
>> >lack of interrupt control is a deal breaker for me
>> >
>> >Kim wrote:
>> >> The biggest pitfall I found with the K8NS was that while the manual
>states
>> >> you have pretty good interrupt control, they actually removed it from
>> the
>> >> bios. The latest BIOS which gives you proper interrupt control (unless
>> they've
>> >> added it back - haven't checked for months) is version F6, which I
use.
>> It's
>> >> quite old but I haven't had any issues. The thing never crashes. It's
>> maybe
>> >> crashed once or twice since I've had it, which is about 12 months now.
>> >>
>> >> My motherboard seems to have a quirk in the BIOS and I'm currently
>running
>> >> on the backup BIOS on the board, but she runs fine like that. It
>forgets
>> >> HDD's on startup. Not sure why... (unless it's a quirk of the F6
>firmware,
>> >> but that seems unlikely...)
>> >>
>> >> Apart from that though it's great. I run only a two card system though,
>> and
>> >> only dual head video (A Nvidia card currently) but have had no issues
>> apart
>> >> from the BIOS losing hdd's on startup which appears to be a MB fault
>(should
>> >> take it back before my warranty runs out...).
>> >>
>> >> It's quick though, and very stable. I'm happy with it. :o)
>> >>
>> >> Cheers,
>> >> Kim.
>> >>
>> >> "Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>> >>>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>> >>>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>> >>>Cheers.
>> >>>
>> >>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>>Hi, all.
>> >>>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>> >>>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view to
>upgrade
>> >>>>at some stage.
>> >>>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>> >>>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
>> >>>>is one of the fave mobos.
>> >>>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>> >>>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far as
>which
>> >>>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in an
>attempt
>> >>>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>> >>>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four
>C-16's.
>> >>>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>> >>>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>> >>>>Did it pan out for you??
>> >>>>Thanks,
>> >>>>Kim #2.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>>
>
>
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| Re: BTW: Paris XP, K8NS ultra939...any pitfalls??..(Kim?)..thanks! [message #70117 is a reply to message #70099] |
Sat, 08 July 2006 18:19 |
Kim
Messages: 1246
Registered: October 2005
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Senior Member |
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Mmm, you do appear to have an EDS sharing with a Quadro, BUT do you have
one Quadro in slot one currently??? If so this one would be sharing with
slot 5... or did you plug the PCI Quadro into slot 2/3/4?
Cheers,
Kim.
"Kim W." <no@way.commie> wrote:
>
>
>
>Just returned from "The Dungeon", and am happy to report that
>all appears to be working.
>(4 EDS's, 2 Nvidia Qudras).
>Thus far I have no DX/VST plugins installed.
>(In the past this is where my installs have come unstuck.)
>After initial disappointment with the dreaded Crash-on-
>exit, I remembered about the "minimum install" effects subsystem fix, with
>wires.
>Applying this seems to have cured the COE.
>I'm pretty stoked at the moment, and have ghosted.
>All slots are full, and there appears to be some sharing going on,(I attached
>a screen grab)
>but time will tell if it causes any problems. I just bunged all
>four EDS's in, and let the system allocate resources as it
>seemed fit.
>I did, however, disable the SATA, and the parallel port in the bios.
>Time for bed, as it's been 12 hours since I deemed it "Beer O'clock".
>
>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>> It doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5, unless
>>that's
>>> just assumed...? I know often 1 shares with AGP.
>>
>>Kim...........if PCI 1 and 5 "do not" share with the AGP, this is
>>potentially a HUGE deal and this would be the most flexible (semi current)
>>mobo in existence today for 939 CPU's. I cannot find any reference to this
>>in the Gigabyte manual. When/if it is possible, could you insert a PCI
card
>>in slot 1 or 5 (or both), then load the drivers for whatever that device
>is,
>>then go to your system info, look under system resources, navigate to
>>hardware resources>IRQ and let us know if the device(s) in PCI slots 1
or
>5
>>is/are sharing an IRQ with the AGP? If not, I'm gonna be thinking hard
about
>>switching mobo's on my Paris rig and trying to get that duallie CPU
>>happening with my Paris rig. Theis could conceivably allow 5 x EDS cards
>to
>>operate on a dual core Athlon. I would do this here, but I don't have all
>>the componentry that I need yet and the ergonomics of moving all of my
EDS
>>cards to a Magma chassis (which is already being used by another DAW) is
>>something that would take my entire studio down for a couple of days, and
>>I'm pretty busy right now.
>>
>>Deej
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:44afb30d$1@linux...
>>>
>>>
>>> Mine doesn't show that it's sharing with AGP, though 1 does share with
>5.
>>>
>>> It has a BIOS window you can go to which allows you to set manually which
>>> interrupt each slot uses, and tells you what will be sharing with it
if
>>you
>>> use that one. I have some things sharing, but everything is working fine
>>> so I'm not concerned. Firewire shares with an EDS for example, but I
never
>>> use Paris and firewire together so that's not really a problem.
>>>
>>> It doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5, unless
>>that's
>>> just assumed...? I know often 1 shares with AGP.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Kim.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>> >lack of interrupt control is a deal breaker for me
>>> >
>>> >Kim wrote:
>>> >> The biggest pitfall I found with the K8NS was that while the manual
>>states
>>> >> you have pretty good interrupt control, they actually removed it from
>>> the
>>> >> bios. The latest BIOS which gives you proper interrupt control (unless
>>> they've
>>> >> added it back - haven't checked for months) is version F6, which I
>use.
>>> It's
>>> >> quite old but I haven't had any issues. The thing never crashes. It's
>>> maybe
>>> >> crashed once or twice since I've had it, which is about 12 months
now.
>>> >>
>>> >> My motherboard seems to have a quirk in the BIOS and I'm currently
>>running
>>> >> on the backup BIOS on the board, but she runs fine like that. It
>>forgets
>>> >> HDD's on startup. Not sure why... (unless it's a quirk of the F6
>>firmware,
>>> >> but that seems unlikely...)
>>> >>
>>> >> Apart from that though it's great. I run only a two card system though,
>>> and
>>> >> only dual head video (A Nvidia card currently) but have had no issues
>>> apart
>>> >> from the BIOS losing hdd's on startup which appears to be a MB fault
>>(should
>>> >> take it back before my warranty runs out...).
>>> >>
>>> >> It's quick though, and very stable. I'm happy with it. :o)
>>> >>
>>> >> Cheers,
>>> >> Kim.
>>> >>
>>> >> "Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>>> >>>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>>> >>>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>>> >>>Cheers.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>Hi, all.
>>> >>>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>>> >>>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view to
>>upgrade
>>> >>>>at some stage.
>>> >>>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>>> >>>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
>>> >>>>is one of the fave mobos.
>>> >>>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>>> >>>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far as
>>which
>>> >>>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in
an
>>attempt
>>> >>>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>>> >>>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four
>>C-16's.
>>> >>>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>>> >>>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>>> >>>>Did it pan out for you??
>>> >>>>Thanks,
>>> >>>>Kim #2.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>>
>>
>>
>
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| Re: BTW: Paris XP, K8NS ultra939...any pitfalls??..(Kim?)..thanks! [message #70118 is a reply to message #70116] |
Sat, 08 July 2006 18:58 |
Deej [1]
Messages: 2149
Registered: January 2006
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Senior Member |
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Thanks Kim. Much appreciated.
Deej
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:44b058d5$1@linux...
>
>
> I'll have a look at it. I should actually be ablt to work it out I expect
> with just a reboot. If the reboot says they're not sharing then I'll plug
> a card in to proove it.
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >> It doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5, unless
> >that's
> >> just assumed...? I know often 1 shares with AGP.
> >
> >Kim...........if PCI 1 and 5 "do not" share with the AGP, this is
> >potentially a HUGE deal and this would be the most flexible (semi
current)
> >mobo in existence today for 939 CPU's. I cannot find any reference to
this
> >in the Gigabyte manual. When/if it is possible, could you insert a PCI
card
> >in slot 1 or 5 (or both), then load the drivers for whatever that device
> is,
> >then go to your system info, look under system resources, navigate to
> >hardware resources>IRQ and let us know if the device(s) in PCI slots 1 or
> 5
> >is/are sharing an IRQ with the AGP? If not, I'm gonna be thinking hard
about
> >switching mobo's on my Paris rig and trying to get that duallie CPU
> >happening with my Paris rig. Theis could conceivably allow 5 x EDS cards
> to
> >operate on a dual core Athlon. I would do this here, but I don't have all
> >the componentry that I need yet and the ergonomics of moving all of my
EDS
> >cards to a Magma chassis (which is already being used by another DAW) is
> >something that would take my entire studio down for a couple of days, and
> >I'm pretty busy right now.
> >
> >Deej
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:44afb30d$1@linux...
> >>
> >>
> >> Mine doesn't show that it's sharing with AGP, though 1 does share with
> 5.
> >>
> >> It has a BIOS window you can go to which allows you to set manually
which
> >> interrupt each slot uses, and tells you what will be sharing with it if
> >you
> >> use that one. I have some things sharing, but everything is working
fine
> >> so I'm not concerned. Firewire shares with an EDS for example, but I
never
> >> use Paris and firewire together so that's not really a problem.
> >>
> >> It doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5, unless
> >that's
> >> just assumed...? I know often 1 shares with AGP.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Kim.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> John <no@no.com> wrote:
> >> >lack of interrupt control is a deal breaker for me
> >> >
> >> >Kim wrote:
> >> >> The biggest pitfall I found with the K8NS was that while the manual
> >states
> >> >> you have pretty good interrupt control, they actually removed it
from
> >> the
> >> >> bios. The latest BIOS which gives you proper interrupt control
(unless
> >> they've
> >> >> added it back - haven't checked for months) is version F6, which I
> use.
> >> It's
> >> >> quite old but I haven't had any issues. The thing never crashes.
It's
> >> maybe
> >> >> crashed once or twice since I've had it, which is about 12 months
now.
> >> >>
> >> >> My motherboard seems to have a quirk in the BIOS and I'm currently
> >running
> >> >> on the backup BIOS on the board, but she runs fine like that. It
> >forgets
> >> >> HDD's on startup. Not sure why... (unless it's a quirk of the F6
> >firmware,
> >> >> but that seems unlikely...)
> >> >>
> >> >> Apart from that though it's great. I run only a two card system
though,
> >> and
> >> >> only dual head video (A Nvidia card currently) but have had no
issues
> >> apart
> >> >> from the BIOS losing hdd's on startup which appears to be a MB fault
> >(should
> >> >> take it back before my warranty runs out...).
> >> >>
> >> >> It's quick though, and very stable. I'm happy with it. :o)
> >> >>
> >> >> Cheers,
> >> >> Kim.
> >> >>
> >> >> "Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
> >> >>>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
> >> >>>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
> >> >>>Cheers.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>Hi, all.
> >> >>>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
> >> >>>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view to
> >upgrade
> >> >>>>at some stage.
> >> >>>>It appears the time is nigh!!
> >> >>>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
> >> >>>>is one of the fave mobos.
> >> >>>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
> >> >>>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far as
> >which
> >> >>>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in an
> >attempt
> >> >>>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
> >> >>>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four
> >C-16's.
> >> >>>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
> >> >>>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
> >> >>>>Did it pan out for you??
> >> >>>>Thanks,
> >> >>>>Kim #2.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
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| Re: BTW: Paris XP, K8NS ultra939...any pitfalls??..(Kim?)..thanks! [message #70119 is a reply to message #70118] |
Sat, 08 July 2006 19:37 |
Kim
Messages: 1246
Registered: October 2005
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Senior Member |
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OK I'm a little confused right now. I tried to call you but you didn't answer...
it's only 7:40 or something there isn't it? Judging from you post times...
I've tried various things, and could give you the spiel, but what I've come
up with is that the IRQ swapping on the MB doesn't appear to actually do
anything. I'm thinking Windows is overiding it but I have no idea how to
change that. Until I work that out I'm kinda stuck...
On my system (currently in Windows) slot 4 is sharing with video, but I don't
know if that means it always does or what as I can't set the IRQ's... until
I can do that there's little point in pulling the box apart.
Is there some trick here? Does this have to do with the old "ACPI PC" vs
"Standard PC" thingy...?
Cheers,
Kim.
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>Thanks Kim. Much appreciated.
>
>Deej
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:44b058d5$1@linux...
>>
>>
>> I'll have a look at it. I should actually be ablt to work it out I expect
>> with just a reboot. If the reboot says they're not sharing then I'll plug
>> a card in to proove it.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kim.
>>
>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>> >> It doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5, unless
>> >that's
>> >> just assumed...? I know often 1 shares with AGP.
>> >
>> >Kim...........if PCI 1 and 5 "do not" share with the AGP, this is
>> >potentially a HUGE deal and this would be the most flexible (semi
>current)
>> >mobo in existence today for 939 CPU's. I cannot find any reference to
>this
>> >in the Gigabyte manual. When/if it is possible, could you insert a PCI
>card
>> >in slot 1 or 5 (or both), then load the drivers for whatever that device
>> is,
>> >then go to your system info, look under system resources, navigate to
>> >hardware resources>IRQ and let us know if the device(s) in PCI slots
1 or
>> 5
>> >is/are sharing an IRQ with the AGP? If not, I'm gonna be thinking hard
>about
>> >switching mobo's on my Paris rig and trying to get that duallie CPU
>> >happening with my Paris rig. Theis could conceivably allow 5 x EDS cards
>> to
>> >operate on a dual core Athlon. I would do this here, but I don't have
all
>> >the componentry that I need yet and the ergonomics of moving all of my
>EDS
>> >cards to a Magma chassis (which is already being used by another DAW)
is
>> >something that would take my entire studio down for a couple of days,
and
>> >I'm pretty busy right now.
>> >
>> >Deej
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:44afb30d$1@linux...
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Mine doesn't show that it's sharing with AGP, though 1 does share with
>> 5.
>> >>
>> >> It has a BIOS window you can go to which allows you to set manually
>which
>> >> interrupt each slot uses, and tells you what will be sharing with it
if
>> >you
>> >> use that one. I have some things sharing, but everything is working
>fine
>> >> so I'm not concerned. Firewire shares with an EDS for example, but
I
>never
>> >> use Paris and firewire together so that's not really a problem.
>> >>
>> >> It doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5, unless
>> >that's
>> >> just assumed...? I know often 1 shares with AGP.
>> >>
>> >> Cheers,
>> >> Kim.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> John <no@no.com> wrote:
>> >> >lack of interrupt control is a deal breaker for me
>> >> >
>> >> >Kim wrote:
>> >> >> The biggest pitfall I found with the K8NS was that while the manual
>> >states
>> >> >> you have pretty good interrupt control, they actually removed it
>from
>> >> the
>> >> >> bios. The latest BIOS which gives you proper interrupt control
>(unless
>> >> they've
>> >> >> added it back - haven't checked for months) is version F6, which
I
>> use.
>> >> It's
>> >> >> quite old but I haven't had any issues. The thing never crashes.
>It's
>> >> maybe
>> >> >> crashed once or twice since I've had it, which is about 12 months
>now.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> My motherboard seems to have a quirk in the BIOS and I'm currently
>> >running
>> >> >> on the backup BIOS on the board, but she runs fine like that. It
>> >forgets
>> >> >> HDD's on startup. Not sure why... (unless it's a quirk of the F6
>> >firmware,
>> >> >> but that seems unlikely...)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Apart from that though it's great. I run only a two card system
>though,
>> >> and
>> >> >> only dual head video (A Nvidia card currently) but have had no
>issues
>> >> apart
>> >> >> from the BIOS losing hdd's on startup which appears to be a MB fault
>> >(should
>> >> >> take it back before my warranty runs out...).
>> >> >>
>> >> >> It's quick though, and very stable. I'm happy with it. :o)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Cheers,
>> >> >> Kim.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>> >> >>>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>> >> >>>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>> >> >>>Cheers.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>>Hi, all.
>> >> >>>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>> >> >>>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view
to
>> >upgrade
>> >> >>>>at some stage.
>> >> >>>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>> >> >>>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
>> >> >>>>is one of the fave mobos.
>> >> >>>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>> >> >>>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far
as
>> >which
>> >> >>>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in
an
>> >attempt
>> >> >>>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>> >> >>>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four
>> >C-16's.
>> >> >>>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>> >> >>>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>> >> >>>>Did it pan out for you??
>> >> >>>>Thanks,
>> >> >>>>Kim #2.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
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| Re: BTW: Paris XP, K8NS ultra939...any pitfalls??..(Kim?)..thanks! [message #70121 is a reply to message #70119] |
Sat, 08 July 2006 19:49 |
Deej [1]
Messages: 2149
Registered: January 2006
|
Senior Member |
|
|
Hey Kim.........can you try that call again? I was shutting down computers
and battening down a few things outside in anticipation of a huge storm
front that 8is headed this way.
Deej
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:44b06bdd$1@linux...
>
>
> OK I'm a little confused right now. I tried to call you but you didn't
answer...
> it's only 7:40 or something there isn't it? Judging from you post
times...
>
> I've tried various things, and could give you the spiel, but what I've
come
> up with is that the IRQ swapping on the MB doesn't appear to actually do
> anything. I'm thinking Windows is overiding it but I have no idea how to
> change that. Until I work that out I'm kinda stuck...
>
> On my system (currently in Windows) slot 4 is sharing with video, but I
don't
> know if that means it always does or what as I can't set the IRQ's...
until
> I can do that there's little point in pulling the box apart.
>
> Is there some trick here? Does this have to do with the old "ACPI PC" vs
> "Standard PC" thingy...?
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >Thanks Kim. Much appreciated.
> >
> >Deej
> >
> >"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:44b058d5$1@linux...
> >>
> >>
> >> I'll have a look at it. I should actually be ablt to work it out I
expect
> >> with just a reboot. If the reboot says they're not sharing then I'll
plug
> >> a card in to proove it.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Kim.
> >>
> >> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >> >> It doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5, unless
> >> >that's
> >> >> just assumed...? I know often 1 shares with AGP.
> >> >
> >> >Kim...........if PCI 1 and 5 "do not" share with the AGP, this is
> >> >potentially a HUGE deal and this would be the most flexible (semi
> >current)
> >> >mobo in existence today for 939 CPU's. I cannot find any reference to
> >this
> >> >in the Gigabyte manual. When/if it is possible, could you insert a PCI
> >card
> >> >in slot 1 or 5 (or both), then load the drivers for whatever that
device
> >> is,
> >> >then go to your system info, look under system resources, navigate to
> >> >hardware resources>IRQ and let us know if the device(s) in PCI slots
> 1 or
> >> 5
> >> >is/are sharing an IRQ with the AGP? If not, I'm gonna be thinking hard
> >about
> >> >switching mobo's on my Paris rig and trying to get that duallie CPU
> >> >happening with my Paris rig. Theis could conceivably allow 5 x EDS
cards
> >> to
> >> >operate on a dual core Athlon. I would do this here, but I don't have
> all
> >> >the componentry that I need yet and the ergonomics of moving all of my
> >EDS
> >> >cards to a Magma chassis (which is already being used by another DAW)
> is
> >> >something that would take my entire studio down for a couple of days,
> and
> >> >I'm pretty busy right now.
> >> >
> >> >Deej
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:44afb30d$1@linux...
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Mine doesn't show that it's sharing with AGP, though 1 does share
with
> >> 5.
> >> >>
> >> >> It has a BIOS window you can go to which allows you to set manually
> >which
> >> >> interrupt each slot uses, and tells you what will be sharing with it
> if
> >> >you
> >> >> use that one. I have some things sharing, but everything is working
> >fine
> >> >> so I'm not concerned. Firewire shares with an EDS for example, but
> I
> >never
> >> >> use Paris and firewire together so that's not really a problem.
> >> >>
> >> >> It doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5, unless
> >> >that's
> >> >> just assumed...? I know often 1 shares with AGP.
> >> >>
> >> >> Cheers,
> >> >> Kim.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> John <no@no.com> wrote:
> >> >> >lack of interrupt control is a deal breaker for me
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Kim wrote:
> >> >> >> The biggest pitfall I found with the K8NS was that while the
manual
> >> >states
> >> >> >> you have pretty good interrupt control, they actually removed it
> >from
> >> >> the
> >> >> >> bios. The latest BIOS which gives you proper interrupt control
> >(unless
> >> >> they've
> >> >> >> added it back - haven't checked for months) is version F6, which
> I
> >> use.
> >> >> It's
> >> >> >> quite old but I haven't had any issues. The thing never crashes.
> >It's
> >> >> maybe
> >> >> >> crashed once or twice since I've had it, which is about 12 months
> >now.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> My motherboard seems to have a quirk in the BIOS and I'm
currently
> >> >running
> >> >> >> on the backup BIOS on the board, but she runs fine like that. It
> >> >forgets
> >> >> >> HDD's on startup. Not sure why... (unless it's a quirk of the F6
> >> >firmware,
> >> >> >> but that seems unlikely...)
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Apart from that though it's great. I run only a two card system
> >though,
> >> >> and
> >> >> >> only dual head video (A Nvidia card currently) but have had no
> >issues
> >> >> apart
> >> >> >> from the BIOS losing hdd's on startup which appears to be a MB
fault
> >> >(should
> >> >> >> take it back before my warranty runs out...).
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> It's quick though, and very stable. I'm happy with it. :o)
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Cheers,
> >> >> >> Kim.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
> >> >> >>>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
> >> >> >>>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
> >> >> >>>Cheers.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>>Hi, all.
> >> >> >>>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
> >> >> >>>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view
> to
> >> >upgrade
> >> >> >>>>at some stage.
> >> >> >>>>It appears the time is nigh!!
> >> >> >>>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the
K8NS
> >> >> >>>>is one of the fave mobos.
> >> >> >>>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the
Gigabyte.)
> >> >> >>>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far
> as
> >> >which
> >> >> >>>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in
> an
> >> >attempt
> >> >> >>>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
> >> >> >>>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four
> >> >C-16's.
> >> >> >>>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
> >> >> >>>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
> >> >> >>>>Did it pan out for you??
> >> >> >>>>Thanks,
> >> >> >>>>Kim #2.
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>
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| Re: BTW: Paris XP, K8NS ultra939...any pitfalls??..(Kim?)..thanks! [message #70125 is a reply to message #70100] |
Sat, 08 July 2006 22:29 |
Kim W
Messages: 165
Registered: July 2006
|
Senior Member |
|
|
Hi, John.
I can't see the PCI slot numbers on the mobo, (or in the manual),
but here is what I have in the slots starting from the one next
to the AGP slot, and the IRQ assignments in the black boot-up
screen:
1: Nvidia Quadro PCI irq 11
2: EDS irq 9
3: EDS irq 7
4: EDS irq 5
5: EDS irq 10
Onboard audio uses irq 12, Firewire controller uses irq 10,
ACPI controller uses irq 9.
Is this enough info?
Cheers,
Kim.
BTW why would my brand new 250 gb ata drive only have been formatted for
130gb during XP install? Only just noticed it.
John <no@no.com> wrote:
>What slots are each card in. Also, their manual didn't mention what agp
>uses for irq and whether it shares or not. Can't you tell on boot up
>when that black resource screen shows what's on what?
>
>It would be good to know if you have 4 or 5 independent IRQs
>2,3,4,1/5,agp
>
>I run my 2 eds cards on the same IRQ 3 on my box.
>
>John
>
>Kim W. wrote:
>> Just returned from "The Dungeon", and am happy to report that
>> all appears to be working.
>> (4 EDS's, 2 Nvidia Qudras).
>> Thus far I have no DX/VST plugins installed.
>> (In the past this is where my installs have come unstuck.)
>> After initial disappointment with the dreaded Crash-on-
>> exit, I remembered about the "minimum install" effects subsystem fix,
with
>> wires.
>> Applying this seems to have cured the COE.
>> I'm pretty stoked at the moment, and have ghosted.
>> All slots are full, and there appears to be some sharing going on,(I attached
>> a screen grab)
>> but time will tell if it causes any problems. I just bunged all
>> four EDS's in, and let the system allocate resources as it
>> seemed fit.
>> I did, however, disable the SATA, and the parallel port in the bios.
>> Time for bed, as it's been 12 hours since I deemed it "Beer O'clock".
>>
>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>
>>>>It doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5, unless
>>>
>>>that's
>>>
>>>>just assumed...? I know often 1 shares with AGP.
>>>
>>>Kim...........if PCI 1 and 5 "do not" share with the AGP, this is
>>>potentially a HUGE deal and this would be the most flexible (semi current)
>>>mobo in existence today for 939 CPU's. I cannot find any reference to
this
>>>in the Gigabyte manual. When/if it is possible, could you insert a PCI
card
>>>in slot 1 or 5 (or both), then load the drivers for whatever that device
>>
>> is,
>>
>>>then go to your system info, look under system resources, navigate to
>>>hardware resources>IRQ and let us know if the device(s) in PCI slots 1
or
>>
>> 5
>>
>>>is/are sharing an IRQ with the AGP? If not, I'm gonna be thinking hard
about
>>>switching mobo's on my Paris rig and trying to get that duallie CPU
>>>happening with my Paris rig. Theis could conceivably allow 5 x EDS cards
>>
>> to
>>
>>>operate on a dual core Athlon. I would do this here, but I don't have
all
>>>the componentry that I need yet and the ergonomics of moving all of my
EDS
>>>cards to a Magma chassis (which is already being used by another DAW)
is
>>>something that would take my entire studio down for a couple of days,
and
>>>I'm pretty busy right now.
>>>
>>>Deej
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:44afb30d$1@linux...
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Mine doesn't show that it's sharing with AGP, though 1 does share with
>>
>> 5.
>>
>>>>It has a BIOS window you can go to which allows you to set manually which
>>>>interrupt each slot uses, and tells you what will be sharing with it
if
>>>
>>>you
>>>
>>>>use that one. I have some things sharing, but everything is working fine
>>>>so I'm not concerned. Firewire shares with an EDS for example, but I
never
>>>>use Paris and firewire together so that's not really a problem.
>>>>
>>>>It doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5, unless
>>>
>>>that's
>>>
>>>>just assumed...? I know often 1 shares with AGP.
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>>Kim.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>lack of interrupt control is a deal breaker for me
>>>>>
>>>>>Kim wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>The biggest pitfall I found with the K8NS was that while the manual
>>>
>>>states
>>>
>>>>>>you have pretty good interrupt control, they actually removed it from
>>>>
>>>>the
>>>>
>>>>>>bios. The latest BIOS which gives you proper interrupt control (unless
>>>>
>>>>they've
>>>>
>>>>>>added it back - haven't checked for months) is version F6, which I
>>
>> use.
>>
>>>>It's
>>>>
>>>>>>quite old but I haven't had any issues. The thing never crashes. It's
>>>>
>>>>maybe
>>>>
>>>>>>crashed once or twice since I've had it, which is about 12 months now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>My motherboard seems to have a quirk in the BIOS and I'm currently
>>>
>>>running
>>>
>>>>>>on the backup BIOS on the board, but she runs fine like that. It
>>>
>>>forgets
>>>
>>>>>>HDD's on startup. Not sure why... (unless it's a quirk of the F6
>>>
>>>firmware,
>>>
>>>>>>but that seems unlikely...)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Apart from that though it's great. I run only a two card system though,
>>>>
>>>>and
>>>>
>>>>>>only dual head video (A Nvidia card currently) but have had no issues
>>>>
>>>>apart
>>>>
>>>>>>from the BIOS losing hdd's on startup which appears to be a MB fault
>>>
>>>(should
>>>
>>>>>>take it back before my warranty runs out...).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>It's quick though, and very stable. I'm happy with it. :o)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>>>>>>>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>>>>>>>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>>>>>>>Cheers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Hi, all.
>>>>>>>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>>>>>>>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view to
>>>
>>>upgrade
>>>
>>>>>>>>at some stage.
>>>>>>>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>>>>>>>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
>>>>>>>>is one of the fave mobos.
>>>>>>>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>>>>>>>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far as
>>>
>>>which
>>>
>>>>>>>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in
an
>>>
>>>attempt
>>>
>>>>>>>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>>>>>>>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four
>>>
>>>C-16's.
>>>
>>>>>>>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>>>>>>>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>>>>>>>>Did it pan out for you??
>>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>>Kim #2.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------
>>>
|
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| Re: BTW: Paris XP, K8NS ultra939...any pitfalls??..(Kim?)..thanks! [message #70126 is a reply to message #70125] |
Sat, 08 July 2006 22:44 |
Kim
Messages: 1246
Registered: October 2005
|
Senior Member |
|
|
From the looks of your System Devices info vs what you posted there, you're
running in the default "ACPI Uniprocessor PC" mode, not standard PC mode.
From my testing and talks with DJ this means that, unfortunately, the PCI
configuration stuff in the BIOS doesn't actually function, which is why you'll
find discrpencies between what you have configured in the BIOS (Which I assume
is what you just listed) vs what you see in Windows.
HOWEVER...
I suggest you just keep going. It is possible to switch to Standard PC mode
without a reinstall, though I have heard it can cause issues (never has for
me though). Deej and I are interested to see if you can run your NVidia cards
sharing with the EDS cards on IRQs, as I suspect it will actually work (it's
working for me here fine).
Slot 1 is usually next to the AGP. If you go into the system device manager
IRQ screen and double click an item it tells you what slot things are in,
so this may help you confirm.
On my system slot 4 on the MB seems to share with AGP, though that might
be because that's how Windows decided to do it, not because they are hardwired...
that's still up in the air.
How's it going anyhow? Got it running? Is it stable?
Cheers,
Kim.
"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>
>Hi, John.
>I can't see the PCI slot numbers on the mobo, (or in the manual),
>but here is what I have in the slots starting from the one next
>to the AGP slot, and the IRQ assignments in the black boot-up
>screen:
>
>1: Nvidia Quadro PCI irq 11
>2: EDS irq 9
>3: EDS irq 7
>4: EDS irq 5
>5: EDS irq 10
>
>Onboard audio uses irq 12, Firewire controller uses irq 10,
>ACPI controller uses irq 9.
>
>Is this enough info?
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.
>
>BTW why would my brand new 250 gb ata drive only have been formatted for
>130gb during XP install? Only just noticed it.
>
>
>John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>What slots are each card in. Also, their manual didn't mention what agp
>
>>uses for irq and whether it shares or not. Can't you tell on boot up
>>when that black resource screen shows what's on what?
>>
>>It would be good to know if you have 4 or 5 independent IRQs
>>2,3,4,1/5,agp
>>
>>I run my 2 eds cards on the same IRQ 3 on my box.
>>
>>John
>>
>>Kim W. wrote:
>>> Just returned from "The Dungeon", and am happy to report that
>>> all appears to be working.
>>> (4 EDS's, 2 Nvidia Qudras).
>>> Thus far I have no DX/VST plugins installed.
>>> (In the past this is where my installs have come unstuck.)
>>> After initial disappointment with the dreaded Crash-on-
>>> exit, I remembered about the "minimum install" effects subsystem fix,
>with
>>> wires.
>>> Applying this seems to have cured the COE.
>>> I'm pretty stoked at the moment, and have ghosted.
>>> All slots are full, and there appears to be some sharing going on,(I
attached
>>> a screen grab)
>>> but time will tell if it causes any problems. I just bunged all
>>> four EDS's in, and let the system allocate resources as it
>>> seemed fit.
>>> I did, however, disable the SATA, and the parallel port in the bios.
>>> Time for bed, as it's been 12 hours since I deemed it "Beer O'clock".
>>>
>>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>It doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5, unless
>>>>
>>>>that's
>>>>
>>>>>just assumed...? I know often 1 shares with AGP.
>>>>
>>>>Kim...........if PCI 1 and 5 "do not" share with the AGP, this is
>>>>potentially a HUGE deal and this would be the most flexible (semi current)
>>>>mobo in existence today for 939 CPU's. I cannot find any reference to
>this
>>>>in the Gigabyte manual. When/if it is possible, could you insert a PCI
>card
>>>>in slot 1 or 5 (or both), then load the drivers for whatever that device
>>>
>>> is,
>>>
>>>>then go to your system info, look under system resources, navigate to
>>>>hardware resources>IRQ and let us know if the device(s) in PCI slots
1
>or
>>>
>>> 5
>>>
>>>>is/are sharing an IRQ with the AGP? If not, I'm gonna be thinking hard
>about
>>>>switching mobo's on my Paris rig and trying to get that duallie CPU
>>>>happening with my Paris rig. Theis could conceivably allow 5 x EDS cards
>>>
>>> to
>>>
>>>>operate on a dual core Athlon. I would do this here, but I don't have
>all
>>>>the componentry that I need yet and the ergonomics of moving all of my
>EDS
>>>>cards to a Magma chassis (which is already being used by another DAW)
>is
>>>>something that would take my entire studio down for a couple of days,
>and
>>>>I'm pretty busy right now.
>>>>
>>>>Deej
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:44afb30d$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Mine doesn't show that it's sharing with AGP, though 1 does share with
>>>
>>> 5.
>>>
>>>>>It has a BIOS window you can go to which allows you to set manually
which
>>>>>interrupt each slot uses, and tells you what will be sharing with it
>if
>>>>
>>>>you
>>>>
>>>>>use that one. I have some things sharing, but everything is working
fine
>>>>>so I'm not concerned. Firewire shares with an EDS for example, but I
>never
>>>>>use Paris and firewire together so that's not really a problem.
>>>>>
>>>>>It doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5, unless
>>>>
>>>>that's
>>>>
>>>>>just assumed...? I know often 1 shares with AGP.
>>>>>
>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>lack of interrupt control is a deal breaker for me
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Kim wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The biggest pitfall I found with the K8NS was that while the manual
>>>>
>>>>states
>>>>
>>>>>>>you have pretty good interrupt control, they actually removed it from
>>>>>
>>>>>the
>>>>>
>>>>>>>bios. The latest BIOS which gives you proper interrupt control (unless
>>>>>
>>>>>they've
>>>>>
>>>>>>>added it back - haven't checked for months) is version F6, which I
>>>
>>> use.
>>>
>>>>>It's
>>>>>
>>>>>>>quite old but I haven't had any issues. The thing never crashes. It's
>>>>>
>>>>>maybe
>>>>>
>>>>>>>crashed once or twice since I've had it, which is about 12 months
now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>My motherboard seems to have a quirk in the BIOS and I'm currently
>>>>
>>>>running
>>>>
>>>>>>>on the backup BIOS on the board, but she runs fine like that. It
>>>>
>>>>forgets
>>>>
>>>>>>>HDD's on startup. Not sure why... (unless it's a quirk of the F6
>>>>
>>>>firmware,
>>>>
>>>>>>>but that seems unlikely...)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Apart from that though it's great. I run only a two card system though,
>>>>>
>>>>>and
>>>>>
>>>>>>>only dual head video (A Nvidia card currently) but have had no issues
>>>>>
>>>>>apart
>>>>>
>>>>>>>from the BIOS losing hdd's on startup which appears to be a MB fault
>>>>
>>>>(should
>>>>
>>>>>>>take it back before my warranty runs out...).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>It's quick though, and very stable. I'm happy with it. :o)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>>>>>>>>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>>>>>>>>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>>>>>>>>Cheers.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Hi, all.
>>>>>>>>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>>>>>>>>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view
to
>>>>
>>>>upgrade
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>at some stage.
>>>>>>>>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>>>>>>>>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
>>>>>>>>>is one of the fave mobos.
>>>>>>>>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>>>>>>>>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far
as
>>>>
>>>>which
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in
>an
>>>>
>>>>attempt
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>>>>>>>>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four
>>>>
>>>>C-16's.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>>>>>>>>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>>>>>>>>>Did it pan out for you??
>>>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>Kim #2.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------
>>>>
>
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| Re: BTW: Paris XP, K8NS ultra939...any pitfalls??..(Kim?)..thanks! [message #70127 is a reply to message #70126] |
Sat, 08 July 2006 22:49 |
no
Messages: 40
Registered: January 2008
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Member |
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"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>From the looks of your System Devices info vs what you posted there, you're
Hi again, Kim.
Just about to start fiddling again.
Gotta get my lost 120gb back. Would rather not reformat.
Also I need to arrange the drives so that my removeable (caddy)
drive becomes "E" again. Don't really want to reset filepaths
for all projects.
Will keep you posted.
Kim
running in the default "ACPI Uniprocessor PC" mode, not standard PC mode.
>From my testing and talks with DJ this means that, unfortunately, the PCI
>configuration stuff in the BIOS doesn't actually function, which is
why you'll
>find discrpencies between what you have configured in the BIOS (Which I
assume
>is what you just listed) vs what you see in Windows.
>
>HOWEVER...
>
>I suggest you just keep going. It is possible to switch to Standard PC mode
>without a reinstall, though I have heard it can cause issues (never has
for
>me though). Deej and I are interested to see if you can run your NVidia
cards
>sharing with the EDS cards on IRQs, as I suspect it will actually work (it's
>working for me here fine).
>
>Slot 1 is usually next to the AGP. If you go into the system device manager
>IRQ screen and double click an item it tells you what slot things are in,
>so this may help you confirm.
>
>On my system slot 4 on the MB seems to share with AGP, though that might
>be because that's how Windows decided to do it, not because they are hardwired...
> that's still up in the air.
>
>How's it going anyhow? Got it running? Is it stable?
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.
>
>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>
>>Hi, John.
>>I can't see the PCI slot numbers on the mobo, (or in the manual),
>>but here is what I have in the slots starting from the one next
>>to the AGP slot, and the IRQ assignments in the black boot-up
>>screen:
>>
>>1: Nvidia Quadro PCI irq 11
>>2: EDS irq 9
>>3: EDS irq 7
>>4: EDS irq 5
>>5: EDS irq 10
>>
>>Onboard audio uses irq 12, Firewire controller uses irq 10,
>>ACPI controller uses irq 9.
>>
>>Is this enough info?
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Kim.
>>
>>BTW why would my brand new 250 gb ata drive only have been formatted for
>>130gb during XP install? Only just noticed it.
>>
>>
>>John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>What slots are each card in. Also, their manual didn't mention what agp
>>
>>>uses for irq and whether it shares or not. Can't you tell on boot up
>>>when that black resource screen shows what's on what?
>>>
>>>It would be good to know if you have 4 or 5 independent IRQs
>>>2,3,4,1/5,agp
>>>
>>>I run my 2 eds cards on the same IRQ 3 on my box.
>>>
>>>John
>>>
>>>Kim W. wrote:
>>>> Just returned from "The Dungeon", and am happy to report that
>>>> all appears to be working.
>>>> (4 EDS's, 2 Nvidia Qudras).
>>>> Thus far I have no DX/VST plugins installed.
>>>> (In the past this is where my installs have come unstuck.)
>>>> After initial disappointment with the dreaded Crash-on-
>>>> exit, I remembered about the "minimum install" effects subsystem fix,
>>with
>>>> wires.
>>>> Applying this seems to have cured the COE.
>>>> I'm pretty stoked at the moment, and have ghosted.
>>>> All slots are full, and there appears to be some sharing going on,(I
>attached
>>>> a screen grab)
>>>> but time will tell if it causes any problems. I just bunged all
>>>> four EDS's in, and let the system allocate resources as it
>>>> seemed fit.
>>>> I did, however, disable the SATA, and the parallel port in the bios.
>>>> Time for bed, as it's been 12 hours since I deemed it "Beer O'clock".
>>>>
>>>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>It doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5, unless
>>>>>
>>>>>that's
>>>>>
>>>>>>just assumed...? I know often 1 shares with AGP.
>>>>>
>>>>>Kim...........if PCI 1 and 5 "do not" share with the AGP, this is
>>>>>potentially a HUGE deal and this would be the most flexible (semi current)
>>>>>mobo in existence today for 939 CPU's. I cannot find any reference to
>>this
>>>>>in the Gigabyte manual. When/if it is possible, could you insert a PCI
>>card
>>>>>in slot 1 or 5 (or both), then load the drivers for whatever that device
>>>>
>>>> is,
>>>>
>>>>>then go to your system info, look under system resources, navigate to
>>>>>hardware resources>IRQ and let us know if the device(s) in PCI slots
>1
>>or
>>>>
>>>> 5
>>>>
>>>>>is/are sharing an IRQ with the AGP? If not, I'm gonna be thinking hard
>>about
>>>>>switching mobo's on my Paris rig and trying to get that duallie CPU
>>>>>happening with my Paris rig. Theis could conceivably allow 5 x EDS cards
>>>>
>>>> to
>>>>
>>>>>operate on a dual core Athlon. I would do this here, but I don't have
>>all
>>>>>the componentry that I need yet and the ergonomics of moving all of
my
>>EDS
>>>>>cards to a Magma chassis (which is already being used by another DAW)
>>is
>>>>>something that would take my entire studio down for a couple of days,
>>and
>>>>>I'm pretty busy right now.
>>>>>
>>>>>Deej
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:44afb30d$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Mine doesn't show that it's sharing with AGP, though 1 does share with
>>>>
>>>> 5.
>>>>
>>>>>>It has a BIOS window you can go to which allows you to set manually
>which
>>>>>>interrupt each slot uses, and tells you what will be sharing with it
>>if
>>>>>
>>>>>you
>>>>>
>>>>>>use that one. I have some things sharing, but everything is working
>fine
>>>>>>so I'm not concerned. Firewire shares with an EDS for example, but
I
>>never
>>>>>>use Paris and firewire together so that's not really a problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>It doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5, unless
>>>>>
>>>>>that's
>>>>>
>>>>>>just assumed...? I know often 1 shares with AGP.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>lack of interrupt control is a deal breaker for me
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Kim wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>The biggest pitfall I found with the K8NS was that while the manual
>>>>>
>>>>>states
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>you have pretty good interrupt control, they actually removed it
from
>>>>>>
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>bios. The latest BIOS which gives you proper interrupt control (unless
>>>>>>
>>>>>>they've
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>added it back - haven't checked for months) is version F6, which
I
>>>>
>>>> use.
>>>>
>>>>>>It's
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>quite old but I haven't had any issues. The thing never crashes.
It's
>>>>>>
>>>>>>maybe
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>crashed once or twice since I've had it, which is about 12 months
>now.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>My motherboard seems to have a quirk in the BIOS and I'm currently
>>>>>
>>>>>running
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>on the backup BIOS on the board, but she runs fine like that. It
>>>>>
>>>>>forgets
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>HDD's on startup. Not sure why... (unless it's a quirk of the F6
>>>>>
>>>>>firmware,
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>but that seems unlikely...)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Apart from that though it's great. I run only a two card system though,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>and
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>only dual head video (A Nvidia card currently) but have had no issues
>>>>>>
>>>>>>apart
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>from the BIOS losing hdd's on startup which appears to be a MB fault
>>>>>
>>>>>(should
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>take it back before my warranty runs out...).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>It's quick though, and very stable. I'm happy with it. :o)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>>>>>>>>>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>>>>>>>>>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>>>>>>>>>Cheers.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Hi, all.
>>>>>>>>>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>>>>>>>>>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view
>to
>>>>>
>>>>>upgrade
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>at some stage.
>>>>>>>>>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>>>>>>>>>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
>>>>>>>>>>is one of the fave mobos.
>>>>>>>>>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>>>>>>>>>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far
>as
>>>>>
>>>>>which
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in
>>an
>>>>>
>>>>>attempt
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>>>>>>>>>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four
>>>>>
>>>>>C-16's.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>>>>>>>>>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>>>>>>>>>>Did it pan out for you??
>>>>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>Kim #2.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------
>>>>>
>>
>
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| Re: BTW: Paris XP, K8NS ultra939...any pitfalls??..(Kim?)..thanks! [message #70128 is a reply to message #70127] |
Sat, 08 July 2006 23:11 |
Kim
Messages: 1246
Registered: October 2005
|
Senior Member |
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|
Did you format the drive using WinXP pre-SP1? I beleive that the installer
for WinXP original version has an upper limit on hdd size... I ran into
this with my 2 x 250Gigs...
Cheers,
Kim.
"Kim W." <no@way> wrote:
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>From the looks of your System Devices info vs what you posted there, you're
>Hi again, Kim.
>Just about to start fiddling again.
>Gotta get my lost 120gb back. Would rather not reformat.
>Also I need to arrange the drives so that my removeable (caddy)
>drive becomes "E" again. Don't really want to reset filepaths
>for all projects.
>Will keep you posted.
>Kim
>
>running in the default "ACPI Uniprocessor PC" mode, not standard PC mode.
>>From my testing and talks with DJ this means that, unfortunately, the PCI
>>configuration stuff in the BIOS doesn't actually function, which is
>
>why you'll
>>find discrpencies between what you have configured in the BIOS (Which I
>assume
>>is what you just listed) vs what you see in Windows.
>>
>>HOWEVER...
>>
>>I suggest you just keep going. It is possible to switch to Standard PC
mode
>>without a reinstall, though I have heard it can cause issues (never has
>for
>>me though). Deej and I are interested to see if you can run your NVidia
>cards
>>sharing with the EDS cards on IRQs, as I suspect it will actually work
(it's
>>working for me here fine).
>>
>>Slot 1 is usually next to the AGP. If you go into the system device manager
>>IRQ screen and double click an item it tells you what slot things are in,
>>so this may help you confirm.
>>
>>On my system slot 4 on the MB seems to share with AGP, though that might
>>be because that's how Windows decided to do it, not because they are hardwired...
>> that's still up in the air.
>>
>>How's it going anyhow? Got it running? Is it stable?
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Kim.
>>
>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Hi, John.
>>>I can't see the PCI slot numbers on the mobo, (or in the manual),
>>>but here is what I have in the slots starting from the one next
>>>to the AGP slot, and the IRQ assignments in the black boot-up
>>>screen:
>>>
>>>1: Nvidia Quadro PCI irq 11
>>>2: EDS irq 9
>>>3: EDS irq 7
>>>4: EDS irq 5
>>>5: EDS irq 10
>>>
>>>Onboard audio uses irq 12, Firewire controller uses irq 10,
>>>ACPI controller uses irq 9.
>>>
>>>Is this enough info?
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Kim.
>>>
>>>BTW why would my brand new 250 gb ata drive only have been formatted for
>>>130gb during XP install? Only just noticed it.
>>>
>>>
>>>John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>What slots are each card in. Also, their manual didn't mention what
agp
>>>
>>>>uses for irq and whether it shares or not. Can't you tell on boot up
>
>>>>when that black resource screen shows what's on what?
>>>>
>>>>It would be good to know if you have 4 or 5 independent IRQs
>>>>2,3,4,1/5,agp
>>>>
>>>>I run my 2 eds cards on the same IRQ 3 on my box.
>>>>
>>>>John
>>>>
>>>>Kim W. wrote:
>>>>> Just returned from "The Dungeon", and am happy to report that
>>>>> all appears to be working.
>>>>> (4 EDS's, 2 Nvidia Qudras).
>>>>> Thus far I have no DX/VST plugins installed.
>>>>> (In the past this is where my installs have come unstuck.)
>>>>> After initial disappointment with the dreaded Crash-on-
>>>>> exit, I remembered about the "minimum install" effects subsystem fix,
>>>with
>>>>> wires.
>>>>> Applying this seems to have cured the COE.
>>>>> I'm pretty stoked at the moment, and have ghosted.
>>>>> All slots are full, and there appears to be some sharing going on,(I
>>attached
>>>>> a screen grab)
>>>>> but time will tell if it causes any problems. I just bunged all
>>>>> four EDS's in, and let the system allocate resources as it
>>>>> seemed fit.
>>>>> I did, however, disable the SATA, and the parallel port in the bios.
>>>>> Time for bed, as it's been 12 hours since I deemed it "Beer O'clock".
>>>>>
>>>>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>It doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5, unless
>>>>>>
>>>>>>that's
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>just assumed...? I know often 1 shares with AGP.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Kim...........if PCI 1 and 5 "do not" share with the AGP, this is
>>>>>>potentially a HUGE deal and this would be the most flexible (semi current)
>>>>>>mobo in existence today for 939 CPU's. I cannot find any reference
to
>>>this
>>>>>>in the Gigabyte manual. When/if it is possible, could you insert a
PCI
>>>card
>>>>>>in slot 1 or 5 (or both), then load the drivers for whatever that device
>>>>>
>>>>> is,
>>>>>
>>>>>>then go to your system info, look under system resources, navigate
to
>>>>>>hardware resources>IRQ and let us know if the device(s) in PCI slots
>>1
>>>or
>>>>>
>>>>> 5
>>>>>
>>>>>>is/are sharing an IRQ with the AGP? If not, I'm gonna be thinking hard
>>>about
>>>>>>switching mobo's on my Paris rig and trying to get that duallie CPU
>>>>>>happening with my Paris rig. Theis could conceivably allow 5 x EDS
cards
>>>>>
>>>>> to
>>>>>
>>>>>>operate on a dual core Athlon. I would do this here, but I don't have
>>>all
>>>>>>the componentry that I need yet and the ergonomics of moving all of
>my
>>>EDS
>>>>>>cards to a Magma chassis (which is already being used by another DAW)
>>>is
>>>>>>something that would take my entire studio down for a couple of days,
>>>and
>>>>>>I'm pretty busy right now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Deej
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:44afb30d$1@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Mine doesn't show that it's sharing with AGP, though 1 does share
with
>>>>>
>>>>> 5.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>It has a BIOS window you can go to which allows you to set manually
>>which
>>>>>>>interrupt each slot uses, and tells you what will be sharing with
it
>>>if
>>>>>>
>>>>>>you
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>use that one. I have some things sharing, but everything is working
>>fine
>>>>>>>so I'm not concerned. Firewire shares with an EDS for example, but
>I
>>>never
>>>>>>>use Paris and firewire together so that's not really a problem.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>It doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5, unless
>>>>>>
>>>>>>that's
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>just assumed...? I know often 1 shares with AGP.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>lack of interrupt control is a deal breaker for me
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Kim wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>The biggest pitfall I found with the K8NS was that while the manual
>>>>>>
>>>>>>states
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>you have pretty good interrupt control, they actually removed it
>from
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>bios. The latest BIOS which gives you proper interrupt control (unless
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>they've
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>added it back - haven't checked for months) is version F6, which
>I
>>>>>
>>>>> use.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>It's
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>quite old but I haven't had any issues. The thing never crashes.
>It's
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>maybe
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>crashed once or twice since I've had it, which is about 12 months
>>now.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>My motherboard seems to have a quirk in the BIOS and I'm currently
>>>>>>
>>>>>>running
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>on the backup BIOS on the board, but she runs fine like that. It
>>>>>>
>>>>>>forgets
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>HDD's on startup. Not sure why... (unless it's a quirk of the F6
>>>>>>
>>>>>>firmware,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>but that seems unlikely...)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Apart from that though it's great. I run only a two card system
though,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>only dual head video (A Nvidia card currently) but have had no issues
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>apart
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>from the BIOS losing hdd's on startup which appears to be a MB fault
>>>>>>
>>>>>>(should
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>take it back before my warranty runs out...).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>It's quick though, and very stable. I'm happy with it. :o)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>>>>>>>>>>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>>>>>>>>>>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>>>>>>>>>>Cheers.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Hi, all.
>>>>>>>>>>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>>>>>>>>>>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view
>>to
>>>>>>
>>>>>>upgrade
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>at some stage.
>>>>>>>>>>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>>>>>>>>>>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
>>>>>>>>>>>is one of the fave mobos.
>>>>>>>>>>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>>>>>>>>>>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far
>>as
>>>>>>
>>>>>>which
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use,
in
>>>an
>>>>>>
>>>>>>attempt
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>>>>>>>>>>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four
>>>>>>
>>>>>>C-16's.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>>>>>>>>>>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>>>>>>>>>>>Did it pan out for you??
>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>Kim #2.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------
>>>>>>
>>>
>>
>
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| Re: BTW: Paris XP, K8NS ultra939...any pitfalls??..(Kim?)..thanks! [message #70129 is a reply to message #70128] |
Sat, 08 July 2006 23:17 |
Kim
Messages: 1246
Registered: October 2005
|
Senior Member |
|
|
....by the way, I still didn't get your email...
Cheers,
Kim.
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>Did you format the drive using WinXP pre-SP1? I beleive that the installer
>for WinXP original version has an upper limit on hdd size... I ran into
>this with my 2 x 250Gigs...
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.
>
>
>"Kim W." <no@way> wrote:
>>
>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>From the looks of your System Devices info vs what you posted there, you're
>>Hi again, Kim.
>>Just about to start fiddling again.
>>Gotta get my lost 120gb back. Would rather not reformat.
>>Also I need to arrange the drives so that my removeable (caddy)
>>drive becomes "E" again. Don't really want to reset filepaths
>>for all projects.
>>Will keep you posted.
>>Kim
>>
>>running in the default "ACPI Uniprocessor PC" mode, not standard PC mode.
>>>From my testing and talks with DJ this means that, unfortunately, the
PCI
>>>configuration stuff in the BIOS doesn't actually function, which is
>>
>>why you'll
>>>find discrpencies between what you have configured in the BIOS (Which
I
>>assume
>>>is what you just listed) vs what you see in Windows.
>>>
>>>HOWEVER...
>>>
>>>I suggest you just keep going. It is possible to switch to Standard PC
>mode
>>>without a reinstall, though I have heard it can cause issues (never has
>>for
>>>me though). Deej and I are interested to see if you can run your NVidia
>>cards
>>>sharing with the EDS cards on IRQs, as I suspect it will actually work
>(it's
>>>working for me here fine).
>>>
>>>Slot 1 is usually next to the AGP. If you go into the system device manager
>>>IRQ screen and double click an item it tells you what slot things are
in,
>>>so this may help you confirm.
>>>
>>>On my system slot 4 on the MB seems to share with AGP, though that might
>>>be because that's how Windows decided to do it, not because they are hardwired...
>>> that's still up in the air.
>>>
>>>How's it going anyhow? Got it running? Is it stable?
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Kim.
>>>
>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Hi, John.
>>>>I can't see the PCI slot numbers on the mobo, (or in the manual),
>>>>but here is what I have in the slots starting from the one next
>>>>to the AGP slot, and the IRQ assignments in the black boot-up
>>>>screen:
>>>>
>>>>1: Nvidia Quadro PCI irq 11
>>>>2: EDS irq 9
>>>>3: EDS irq 7
>>>>4: EDS irq 5
>>>>5: EDS irq 10
>>>>
>>>>Onboard audio uses irq 12, Firewire controller uses irq 10,
>>>>ACPI controller uses irq 9.
>>>>
>>>>Is this enough info?
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>>Kim.
>>>>
>>>>BTW why would my brand new 250 gb ata drive only have been formatted
for
>>>>130gb during XP install? Only just noticed it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>What slots are each card in. Also, their manual didn't mention what
>agp
>>>>
>>>>>uses for irq and whether it shares or not. Can't you tell on boot up
>>
>>>>>when that black resource screen shows what's on what?
>>>>>
>>>>>It would be good to know if you have 4 or 5 independent IRQs
>>>>>2,3,4,1/5,agp
>>>>>
>>>>>I run my 2 eds cards on the same IRQ 3 on my box.
>>>>>
>>>>>John
>>>>>
>>>>>Kim W. wrote:
>>>>>> Just returned from "The Dungeon", and am happy to report that
>>>>>> all appears to be working.
>>>>>> (4 EDS's, 2 Nvidia Qudras).
>>>>>> Thus far I have no DX/VST plugins installed.
>>>>>> (In the past this is where my installs have come unstuck.)
>>>>>> After initial disappointment with the dreaded Crash-on-
>>>>>> exit, I remembered about the "minimum install" effects subsystem fix,
>>>>with
>>>>>> wires.
>>>>>> Applying this seems to have cured the COE.
>>>>>> I'm pretty stoked at the moment, and have ghosted.
>>>>>> All slots are full, and there appears to be some sharing going on,(I
>>>attached
>>>>>> a screen grab)
>>>>>> but time will tell if it causes any problems. I just bunged all
>>>>>> four EDS's in, and let the system allocate resources as it
>>>>>> seemed fit.
>>>>>> I did, however, disable the SATA, and the parallel port in the bios.
>>>>>> Time for bed, as it's been 12 hours since I deemed it "Beer O'clock".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>It doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5, unless
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>that's
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>just assumed...? I know often 1 shares with AGP.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Kim...........if PCI 1 and 5 "do not" share with the AGP, this is
>>>>>>>potentially a HUGE deal and this would be the most flexible (semi
current)
>>>>>>>mobo in existence today for 939 CPU's. I cannot find any reference
>to
>>>>this
>>>>>>>in the Gigabyte manual. When/if it is possible, could you insert a
>PCI
>>>>card
>>>>>>>in slot 1 or 5 (or both), then load the drivers for whatever that
device
>>>>>>
>>>>>> is,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>then go to your system info, look under system resources, navigate
>to
>>>>>>>hardware resources>IRQ and let us know if the device(s) in PCI slots
>>>1
>>>>or
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 5
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>is/are sharing an IRQ with the AGP? If not, I'm gonna be thinking
hard
>>>>about
>>>>>>>switching mobo's on my Paris rig and trying to get that duallie CPU
>>>>>>>happening with my Paris rig. Theis could conceivably allow 5 x EDS
>cards
>>>>>>
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>operate on a dual core Athlon. I would do this here, but I don't have
>>>>all
>>>>>>>the componentry that I need yet and the ergonomics of moving all of
>>my
>>>>EDS
>>>>>>>cards to a Magma chassis (which is already being used by another DAW)
>>>>is
>>>>>>>something that would take my entire studio down for a couple of days,
>>>>and
>>>>>>>I'm pretty busy right now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Deej
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:44afb30d$1@linux...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Mine doesn't show that it's sharing with AGP, though 1 does share
>with
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 5.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>It has a BIOS window you can go to which allows you to set manually
>>>which
>>>>>>>>interrupt each slot uses, and tells you what will be sharing with
>it
>>>>if
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>you
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>use that one. I have some things sharing, but everything is working
>>>fine
>>>>>>>>so I'm not concerned. Firewire shares with an EDS for example, but
>>I
>>>>never
>>>>>>>>use Paris and firewire together so that's not really a problem.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>It doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5, unless
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>that's
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>just assumed...? I know often 1 shares with AGP.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>lack of interrupt control is a deal breaker for me
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Kim wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>The biggest pitfall I found with the K8NS was that while the manual
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>states
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>you have pretty good interrupt control, they actually removed it
>>from
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>bios. The latest BIOS which gives you proper interrupt control
(unless
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>they've
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>added it back - haven't checked for months) is version F6, which
>>I
>>>>>>
>>>>>> use.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>It's
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>quite old but I haven't had any issues. The thing never crashes.
>>It's
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>maybe
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>crashed once or twice since I've had it, which is about 12 months
>>>now.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>My motherboard seems to have a quirk in the BIOS and I'm currently
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>running
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>on the backup BIOS on the board, but she runs fine like that. It
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>forgets
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>HDD's on startup. Not sure why... (unless it's a quirk of the F6
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>firmware,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>but that seems unlikely...)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Apart from that though it's great. I run only a two card system
>though,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>only dual head video (A Nvidia card currently) but have had no
issues
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>apart
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>from the BIOS losing hdd's on startup which appears to be a MB
fault
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>(should
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>take it back before my warranty runs out...).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>It's quick though, and very stable. I'm happy with it. :o)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>>>>>>>>>>>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>>>>>>>>>>>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>>>>>>>>>>>Cheers.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Hi, all.
>>>>>>>>>>>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>>>>>>>>>>>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view
>>>to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>upgrade
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>at some stage.
>>>>>>>>>>>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the
K8NS
>>>>>>>>>>>>is one of the fave mobos.
>>>>>>>>>>>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far
>>>as
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>which
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use,
>in
>>>>an
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>attempt
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>>>>>>>>>>>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>C-16's.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>>>>>>>>>>>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>>>>>>>>>>>>Did it pan out for you??
>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>Kim #2.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
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| Re: BTW: Paris XP, K8NS ultra939...any pitfalls??..IT SEEMS NOT! (yet..) [message #70130 is a reply to message #70128] |
Sat, 08 July 2006 23:17 |
Kim W
Messages: 165
Registered: July 2006
|
Senior Member |
|
|
YEEHAH!!
This is ROCKIN!
After upping the cache sizes, I have a 64 track project playing
beautifully.
Everything feels snappy!
I can drag windows anywhare whilst playing without a hiccup!
(Couldn't do that with the '98 box.
I resized the drive using Acronis.
All looking good so far.
Now for the plugins....
Kim
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>Did you format the drive using WinXP pre-SP1? I beleive that the installer
>for WinXP original version has an upper limit on hdd size... I ran into
>this with my 2 x 250Gigs...
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.
>
>
>"Kim W." <no@way> wrote:
>>
>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>From the looks of your System Devices info vs what you posted there, you're
>>Hi again, Kim.
>>Just about to start fiddling again.
>>Gotta get my lost 120gb back. Would rather not reformat.
>>Also I need to arrange the drives so that my removeable (caddy)
>>drive becomes "E" again. Don't really want to reset filepaths
>>for all projects.
>>Will keep you posted.
>>Kim
>>
>>running in the default "ACPI Uniprocessor PC" mode, not standard PC mode.
>>>From my testing and talks with DJ this means that, unfortunately, the
PCI
>>>configuration stuff in the BIOS doesn't actually function, which is
>>
>>why you'll
>>>find discrpencies between what you have configured in the BIOS (Which
I
>>assume
>>>is what you just listed) vs what you see in Windows.
>>>
>>>HOWEVER...
>>>
>>>I suggest you just keep going. It is possible to switch to Standard PC
>mode
>>>without a reinstall, though I have heard it can cause issues (never has
>>for
>>>me though). Deej and I are interested to see if you can run your NVidia
>>cards
>>>sharing with the EDS cards on IRQs, as I suspect it will actually work
>(it's
>>>working for me here fine).
>>>
>>>Slot 1 is usually next to the AGP. If you go into the system device manager
>>>IRQ screen and double click an item it tells you what slot things are
in,
>>>so this may help you confirm.
>>>
>>>On my system slot 4 on the MB seems to share with AGP, though that might
>>>be because that's how Windows decided to do it, not because they are hardwired...
>>> that's still up in the air.
>>>
>>>How's it going anyhow? Got it running? Is it stable?
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Kim.
>>>
>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Hi, John.
>>>>I can't see the PCI slot numbers on the mobo, (or in the manual),
>>>>but here is what I have in the slots starting from the one next
>>>>to the AGP slot, and the IRQ assignments in the black boot-up
>>>>screen:
>>>>
>>>>1: Nvidia Quadro PCI irq 11
>>>>2: EDS irq 9
>>>>3: EDS irq 7
>>>>4: EDS irq 5
>>>>5: EDS irq 10
>>>>
>>>>Onboard audio uses irq 12, Firewire controller uses irq 10,
>>>>ACPI controller uses irq 9.
>>>>
>>>>Is this enough info?
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>>Kim.
>>>>
>>>>BTW why would my brand new 250 gb ata drive only have been formatted
for
>>>>130gb during XP install? Only just noticed it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>What slots are each card in. Also, their manual didn't mention what
>agp
>>>>
>>>>>uses for irq and whether it shares or not. Can't you tell on boot up
>>
>>>>>when that black resource screen shows what's on what?
>>>>>
>>>>>It would be good to know if you have 4 or 5 independent IRQs
>>>>>2,3,4,1/5,agp
>>>>>
>>>>>I run my 2 eds cards on the same IRQ 3 on my box.
>>>>>
>>>>>John
>>>>>
>>>>>Kim W. wrote:
>>>>>> Just returned from "The Dungeon", and am happy to report that
>>>>>> all appears to be working.
>>>>>> (4 EDS's, 2 Nvidia Qudras).
>>>>>> Thus far I have no DX/VST plugins installed.
>>>>>> (In the past this is where my installs have come unstuck.)
>>>>>> After initial disappointment with the dreaded Crash-on-
>>>>>> exit, I remembered about the "minimum install" effects subsystem fix,
>>>>with
>>>>>> wires.
>>>>>> Applying this seems to have cured the COE.
>>>>>> I'm pretty stoked at the moment, and have ghosted.
>>>>>> All slots are full, and there appears to be some sharing going on,(I
>>>attached
>>>>>> a screen grab)
>>>>>> but time will tell if it causes any problems. I just bunged all
>>>>>> four EDS's in, and let the system allocate resources as it
>>>>>> seemed fit.
>>>>>> I did, however, disable the SATA, and the parallel port in the bios.
>>>>>> Time for bed, as it's been 12 hours since I deemed it "Beer O'clock".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>It doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5, unless
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>that's
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>just assumed...? I know often 1 shares with AGP.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Kim...........if PCI 1 and 5 "do not" share with the AGP, this is
>>>>>>>potentially a HUGE deal and this would be the most flexible (semi
current)
>>>>>>>mobo in existence today for 939 CPU's. I cannot find any reference
>to
>>>>this
>>>>>>>in the Gigabyte manual. When/if it is possible, could you insert a
>PCI
>>>>card
>>>>>>>in slot 1 or 5 (or both), then load the drivers for whatever that
device
>>>>>>
>>>>>> is,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>then go to your system info, look under system resources, navigate
>to
>>>>>>>hardware resources>IRQ and let us know if the device(s) in PCI slots
>>>1
>>>>or
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 5
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>is/are sharing an IRQ with the AGP? If not, I'm gonna be thinking
hard
>>>>about
>>>>>>>switching mobo's on my Paris rig and trying to get that duallie CPU
>>>>>>>happening with my Paris rig. Theis could conceivably allow 5 x EDS
>cards
>>>>>>
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>operate on a dual core Athlon. I would do this here, but I don't have
>>>>all
>>>>>>>the componentry that I need yet and the ergonomics of moving all of
>>my
>>>>EDS
>>>>>>>cards to a Magma chassis (which is already being used by another DAW)
>>>>is
>>>>>>>something that would take my entire studio down for a couple of days,
>>>>and
>>>>>>>I'm pretty busy right now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Deej
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:44afb30d$1@linux...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Mine doesn't show that it's sharing with AGP, though 1 does share
>with
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 5.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>It has a BIOS window you can go to which allows you to set manually
>>>which
>>>>>>>>interrupt each slot uses, and tells you what will be sharing with
>it
>>>>if
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>you
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>use that one. I have some things sharing, but everything is working
>>>fine
>>>>>>>>so I'm not concerned. Firewire shares with an EDS for example, but
>>I
>>>>never
>>>>>>>>use Paris and firewire together so that's not really a problem.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>It doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5, unless
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>that's
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>just assumed...? I know often 1 shares with AGP.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>lack of interrupt control is a deal breaker for me
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Kim wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>The biggest pitfall I found with the K8NS was that while the manual
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>states
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>you have pretty good interrupt control, they actually removed it
>>from
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>bios. The latest BIOS which gives you proper interrupt control
(unless
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>they've
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>added it back - haven't checked for months) is version F6, which
>>I
>>>>>>
>>>>>> use.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>It's
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>quite old but I haven't had any issues. The thing never crashes.
>>It's
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>maybe
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>crashed once or twice since I've had it, which is about 12 months
>>>now.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>My motherboard seems to have a quirk in the BIOS and I'm currently
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>running
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>on the backup BIOS on the board, but she runs fine like that. It
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>forgets
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>HDD's on startup. Not sure why... (unless it's a quirk of the F6
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>firmware,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>but that seems unlikely...)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Apart from that though it's great. I run only a two card system
>though,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>only dual head video (A Nvidia card currently) but have had no
issues
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>apart
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>from the BIOS losing hdd's on startup which appears to be a MB
fault
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>(should
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>take it back before my warranty runs out...).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>It's quick though, and very stable. I'm happy with it. :o)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>>>>>>>>>>>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>>>>>>>>>>>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>>>>>>>>>>>Cheers.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Hi, all.
>>>>>>>>>>>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>>>>>>>>>>>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view
>>>to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>upgrade
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>at some stage.
>>>>>>>>>>>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the
K8NS
>>>>>>>>>>>>is one of the fave mobos.
>>>>>>>>>>>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far
>>>as
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>which
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use,
>in
>>>>an
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>attempt
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>>>>>>>>>>>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>C-16's.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>>>>>>>>>>>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>>>>>>>>>>>>Did it pan out for you??
>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>Kim #2.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
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| Re: BTW: Paris XP, K8NS ultra939...any pitfalls??..IT SEEMS NOT! (yet..) [message #70132 is a reply to message #70130] |
Sat, 08 July 2006 23:57 |
Kim
Messages: 1246
Registered: October 2005
|
Senior Member |
|
|
Good to hear. Keep us updated. :o)
Cheers,
Kim.
"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>
>
>YEEHAH!!
>This is ROCKIN!
>After upping the cache sizes, I have a 64 track project playing
>beautifully.
>Everything feels snappy!
>I can drag windows anywhare whilst playing without a hiccup!
>(Couldn't do that with the '98 box.
>I resized the drive using Acronis.
>All looking good so far.
>Now for the plugins....
>Kim
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Did you format the drive using WinXP pre-SP1? I beleive that the installer
>>for WinXP original version has an upper limit on hdd size... I ran into
>>this with my 2 x 250Gigs...
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Kim.
>>
>>
>>"Kim W." <no@way> wrote:
>>>
>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>From the looks of your System Devices info vs what you posted there,
you're
>>>Hi again, Kim.
>>>Just about to start fiddling again.
>>>Gotta get my lost 120gb back. Would rather not reformat.
>>>Also I need to arrange the drives so that my removeable (caddy)
>>>drive becomes "E" again. Don't really want to reset filepaths
>>>for all projects.
>>>Will keep you posted.
>>>Kim
>>>
>>>running in the default "ACPI Uniprocessor PC" mode, not standard PC mode.
>>>>From my testing and talks with DJ this means that, unfortunately, the
>PCI
>>>>configuration stuff in the BIOS doesn't actually function, which is
>>>
>>>why you'll
>>>>find discrpencies between what you have configured in the BIOS (Which
>I
>>>assume
>>>>is what you just listed) vs what you see in Windows.
>>>>
>>>>HOWEVER...
>>>>
>>>>I suggest you just keep going. It is possible to switch to Standard PC
>>mode
>>>>without a reinstall, though I have heard it can cause issues (never has
>>>for
>>>>me though). Deej and I are interested to see if you can run your NVidia
>>>cards
>>>>sharing with the EDS cards on IRQs, as I suspect it will actually work
>>(it's
>>>>working for me here fine).
>>>>
>>>>Slot 1 is usually next to the AGP. If you go into the system device manager
>>>>IRQ screen and double click an item it tells you what slot things are
>in,
>>>>so this may help you confirm.
>>>>
>>>>On my system slot 4 on the MB seems to share with AGP, though that might
>>>>be because that's how Windows decided to do it, not because they are
hardwired...
>>>> that's still up in the air.
>>>>
>>>>How's it going anyhow? Got it running? Is it stable?
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>>Kim.
>>>>
>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Hi, John.
>>>>>I can't see the PCI slot numbers on the mobo, (or in the manual),
>>>>>but here is what I have in the slots starting from the one next
>>>>>to the AGP slot, and the IRQ assignments in the black boot-up
>>>>>screen:
>>>>>
>>>>>1: Nvidia Quadro PCI irq 11
>>>>>2: EDS irq 9
>>>>>3: EDS irq 7
>>>>>4: EDS irq 5
>>>>>5: EDS irq 10
>>>>>
>>>>>Onboard audio uses irq 12, Firewire controller uses irq 10,
>>>>>ACPI controller uses irq 9.
>>>>>
>>>>>Is this enough info?
>>>>>
>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>
>>>>>BTW why would my brand new 250 gb ata drive only have been formatted
>for
>>>>>130gb during XP install? Only just noticed it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>>What slots are each card in. Also, their manual didn't mention what
>>agp
>>>>>
>>>>>>uses for irq and whether it shares or not. Can't you tell on boot
up
>>>
>>>>>>when that black resource screen shows what's on what?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>It would be good to know if you have 4 or 5 independent IRQs
>>>>>>2,3,4,1/5,agp
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I run my 2 eds cards on the same IRQ 3 on my box.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>John
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Kim W. wrote:
>>>>>>> Just returned from "The Dungeon", and am happy to report that
>>>>>>> all appears to be working.
>>>>>>> (4 EDS's, 2 Nvidia Qudras).
>>>>>>> Thus far I have no DX/VST plugins installed.
>>>>>>> (In the past this is where my installs have come unstuck.)
>>>>>>> After initial disappointment with the dreaded Crash-on-
>>>>>>> exit, I remembered about the "minimum install" effects subsystem
fix,
>>>>>with
>>>>>>> wires.
>>>>>>> Applying this seems to have cured the COE.
>>>>>>> I'm pretty stoked at the moment, and have ghosted.
>>>>>>> All slots are full, and there appears to be some sharing going on,(I
>>>>attached
>>>>>>> a screen grab)
>>>>>>> but time will tell if it causes any problems. I just bunged all
>>>>>>> four EDS's in, and let the system allocate resources as it
>>>>>>> seemed fit.
>>>>>>> I did, however, disable the SATA, and the parallel port in the bios.
>>>>>>> Time for bed, as it's been 12 hours since I deemed it "Beer O'clock".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>It doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5, unless
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>that's
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>just assumed...? I know often 1 shares with AGP.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Kim...........if PCI 1 and 5 "do not" share with the AGP, this is
>>>>>>>>potentially a HUGE deal and this would be the most flexible (semi
>current)
>>>>>>>>mobo in existence today for 939 CPU's. I cannot find any reference
>>to
>>>>>this
>>>>>>>>in the Gigabyte manual. When/if it is possible, could you insert
a
>>PCI
>>>>>card
>>>>>>>>in slot 1 or 5 (or both), then load the drivers for whatever that
>device
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> is,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>then go to your system info, look under system resources, navigate
>>to
>>>>>>>>hardware resources>IRQ and let us know if the device(s) in PCI slots
>>>>1
>>>>>or
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 5
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>is/are sharing an IRQ with the AGP? If not, I'm gonna be thinking
>hard
>>>>>about
>>>>>>>>switching mobo's on my Paris rig and trying to get that duallie CPU
>>>>>>>>happening with my Paris rig. Theis could conceivably allow 5 x EDS
>>cards
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>operate on a dual core Athlon. I would do this here, but I don't
have
>>>>>all
>>>>>>>>the componentry that I need yet and the ergonomics of moving all
of
>>>my
>>>>>EDS
>>>>>>>>cards to a Magma chassis (which is already being used by another
DAW)
>>>>>is
>>>>>>>>something that would take my entire studio down for a couple of days,
>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>I'm pretty busy right now.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Deej
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:44afb30d$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Mine doesn't show that it's sharing with AGP, though 1 does share
>>with
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 5.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>It has a BIOS window you can go to which allows you to set manually
>>>>which
>>>>>>>>>interrupt each slot uses, and tells you what will be sharing with
>>it
>>>>>if
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>you
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>use that one. I have some things sharing, but everything is working
>>>>fine
>>>>>>>>>so I'm not concerned. Firewire shares with an EDS for example, but
>>>I
>>>>>never
>>>>>>>>>use Paris and firewire together so that's not really a problem.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>It doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5, unless
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>that's
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>just assumed...? I know often 1 shares with AGP.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>lack of interrupt control is a deal breaker for me
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Kim wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>The biggest pitfall I found with the K8NS was that while the manual
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>states
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>you have pretty good interrupt control, they actually removed
it
>>>from
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>bios. The latest BIOS which gives you proper interrupt control
>(unless
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>they've
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>added it back - haven't checked for months) is version F6, which
>>>I
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> use.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>It's
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>quite old but I haven't had any issues. The thing never crashes.
>>>It's
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>maybe
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>crashed once or twice since I've had it, which is about 12 months
>>>>now.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>My motherboard seems to have a quirk in the BIOS and I'm currently
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>running
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>on the backup BIOS on the board, but she runs fine like that.
It
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>forgets
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>HDD's on startup. Not sure why... (unless it's a quirk of the
F6
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>firmware,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>but that seems unlikely...)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Apart from that though it's great. I run only a two card system
>>though,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>only dual head video (A Nvidia card currently) but have had no
>issues
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>apart
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>from the BIOS losing hdd's on startup which appears to be a MB
>fault
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>(should
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>take it back before my warranty runs out...).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>It's quick though, and very stable. I'm happy with it. :o)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>>>>>>>>>>>>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>>>>>>>>>>>>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>>>>>>>>>>>>Cheers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hi, all.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view
>>>>to
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>upgrade
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>at some stage.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the
>K8NS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>is one of the fave mobos.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as
far
>>>>as
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>which
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use,
>>in
>>>>>an
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>attempt
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>>>>>>>>>>>>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>C-16's.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>>>>>>>>>>>>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Did it pan out for you??
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Kim #2.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
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| Re: BTW: Paris XP, K8NS ultra939...any pitfalls??..(Kim?)..thanks! [message #70134 is a reply to message #70125] |
Sun, 09 July 2006 04:22 |
John [1]
Messages: 2229
Registered: September 2005
|
Senior Member |
|
|
Well, It appears that agp is sharing with 2 and 1 and 5 are NOT sharing
IRQs. My mx800 asus mb manual is wrong. I wonder if this one is wrong
too. Pretty weird.
You should be able to assign irqs to the pci slots in the bios. The
lower number the higher priority is my understanding. That's why I put
eds cards on 3. I also disable parallel port, serial, usb and anything
else I'm not using. Sharing eds with anything seems a bad idea. My 2
eds are both on irq 3. Can you put 4 eds cards on the same irq or is it
better for each to have it's own.
Man, is there a motherboard with independent irqs on each slot without
this sharing shit !
Horseshit I tell you.
Kim W. wrote:
> Hi, John.
> I can't see the PCI slot numbers on the mobo, (or in the manual),
> but here is what I have in the slots starting from the one next
> to the AGP slot, and the IRQ assignments in the black boot-up
> screen:
>
> 1: Nvidia Quadro PCI irq 11
> 2: EDS irq 9
> 3: EDS irq 7
> 4: EDS irq 5
> 5: EDS irq 10
>
> Onboard audio uses irq 12, Firewire controller uses irq 10,
> ACPI controller uses irq 9.
>
> Is this enough info?
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.
>
> BTW why would my brand new 250 gb ata drive only have been formatted for
> 130gb during XP install? Only just noticed it.
>
>
> John <no@no.com> wrote:
>
>>What slots are each card in. Also, their manual didn't mention what agp
>
>
>>uses for irq and whether it shares or not. Can't you tell on boot up
>>when that black resource screen shows what's on what?
>>
>>It would be good to know if you have 4 or 5 independent IRQs
>>2,3,4,1/5,agp
>>
>>I run my 2 eds cards on the same IRQ 3 on my box.
>>
>>John
>>
>>Kim W. wrote:
>>
>>>Just returned from "The Dungeon", and am happy to report that
>>>all appears to be working.
>>>(4 EDS's, 2 Nvidia Qudras).
>>>Thus far I have no DX/VST plugins installed.
>>>(In the past this is where my installs have come unstuck.)
>>>After initial disappointment with the dreaded Crash-on-
>>>exit, I remembered about the "minimum install" effects subsystem fix,
>
> with
>
>>>wires.
>>>Applying this seems to have cured the COE.
>>>I'm pretty stoked at the moment, and have ghosted.
>>>All slots are full, and there appears to be some sharing going on,(I attached
>>>a screen grab)
>>>but time will tell if it causes any problems. I just bunged all
>>>four EDS's in, and let the system allocate resources as it
>>>seemed fit.
>>>I did, however, disable the SATA, and the parallel port in the bios.
>>>Time for bed, as it's been 12 hours since I deemed it "Beer O'clock".
>>>
>>>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>>It doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5, unless
>>>>
>>>>that's
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>just assumed...? I know often 1 shares with AGP.
>>>>
>>>>Kim...........if PCI 1 and 5 "do not" share with the AGP, this is
>>>>potentially a HUGE deal and this would be the most flexible (semi current)
>>>>mobo in existence today for 939 CPU's. I cannot find any reference to
>
> this
>
>>>>in the Gigabyte manual. When/if it is possible, could you insert a PCI
>
> card
>
>>>>in slot 1 or 5 (or both), then load the drivers for whatever that device
>>>
>>>is,
>>>
>>>
>>>>then go to your system info, look under system resources, navigate to
>>>>hardware resources>IRQ and let us know if the device(s) in PCI slots 1
>
> or
>
>>>5
>>>
>>>
>>>>is/are sharing an IRQ with the AGP? If not, I'm gonna be thinking hard
>
> about
>
>>>>switching mobo's on my Paris rig and trying to get that duallie CPU
>>>>happening with my Paris rig. Theis could conceivably allow 5 x EDS cards
>>>
>>>to
>>>
>>>
>>>>operate on a dual core Athlon. I would do this here, but I don't have
>
> all
>
>>>>the componentry that I need yet and the ergonomics of moving all of my
>
> EDS
>
>>>>cards to a Magma chassis (which is already being used by another DAW)
>
> is
>
>>>>something that would take my entire studio down for a couple of days,
>
> and
>
>>>>I'm pretty busy right now.
>>>>
>>>>Deej
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:44afb30d$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Mine doesn't show that it's sharing with AGP, though 1 does share with
>>>
>>>5.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>It has a BIOS window you can go to which allows you to set manually which
>>>>>interrupt each slot uses, and tells you what will be sharing with it
>
> if
>
>>>>you
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>use that one. I have some things sharing, but everything is working fine
>>>>>so I'm not concerned. Firewire shares with an EDS for example, but I
>
> never
>
>>>>>use Paris and firewire together so that's not really a problem.
>>>>>
>>>>>It doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5, unless
>>>>
>>>>that's
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>just assumed...? I know often 1 shares with AGP.
>>>>>
>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>lack of interrupt control is a deal breaker for me
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Kim wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The biggest pitfall I found with the K8NS was that while the manual
>>>>
>>>>states
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>you have pretty good interrupt control, they actually removed it from
>>>>>
>>>>>the
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>bios. The latest BIOS which gives you proper interrupt control (unless
>>>>>
>>>>>they've
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>added it back - haven't checked for months) is version F6, which I
>>>
>>>use.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>It's
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>quite old but I haven't had any issues. The thing never crashes. It's
>>>>>
>>>>>maybe
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>crashed once or twice since I've had it, which is about 12 months now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>My motherboard seems to have a quirk in the BIOS and I'm currently
>>>>
>>>>running
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>on the backup BIOS on the board, but she runs fine like that. It
>>>>
>>>>forgets
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>HDD's on startup. Not sure why... (unless it's a quirk of the F6
>>>>
>>>>firmware,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>but that seems unlikely...)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Apart from that though it's great. I run only a two card system though,
>>>>>
>>>>>and
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>only dual head video (A Nvidia card currently) but have had no issues
>>>>>
>>>>>apart
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>from the BIOS losing hdd's on startup which appears to be a MB fault
>>>>
>>>>(should
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>take it back before my warranty runs out...).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>It's quick though, and very stable. I'm happy with it. :o)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>>>>>>>>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>>>>>>>>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>>>>>>>>Cheers.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Hi, all.
>>>>>>>>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>>>>>>>>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view to
>>>>
>>>>upgrade
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>at some stage.
>>>>>>>>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>>>>>>>>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
>>>>>>>>>is one of the fave mobos.
>>>>>>>>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>>>>>>>>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far as
>>>>
>>>>which
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in
>
> an
>
>>>>attempt
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>>>>>>>>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four
>>>>
>>>>C-16's.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>>>>>>>>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>>>>>>>>>Did it pan out for you??
>>>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>Kim #2.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------
>>>>
>
>
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| Re: BTW: Paris XP, K8NS ultra939...any pitfalls??..(Kim?)..thanks! [message #70140 is a reply to message #70113] |
Sun, 09 July 2006 09:44 |
Miguel Vigil [1]
Messages: 258
Registered: July 2005
|
Senior Member |
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I have to agree with the Acronis *True Image* recommendation.
It is very easy to use and averages about seven minutes for a 5GB partition.
It can verify images in minute. The comments field lets one write plenty of
info. It has a pleasant GUI which is sizeable and there is an exceptional
amount
of sub menu choices which do not freak out like the Ghost always did.
Worst for me was Ghost started requesting 2nd, and 3rd target disks and
failed to make safe images. What I mean above is Ghost stated the target
disk is full,
while I had nearly 80GB of clean storage space available. Probably
something to do
with DOS limits or such. Many of my earliest ghost backups from many years
are
corrupt when read by ghost. In addition, Symantec changed our lovely Ghost
and
the newest version must be done while windows is running. I have not been
able to
create a startup disk version from the program (that feature has been
eliminated).
If you try the Acronis proggies *True Image* or *Disk Suite* approach with
caution
Do a Ghost or Drive Image (now swallowed by Symantec and morphed into Ghost)
because Disk Suite writes to the MBR of the system drive. This is to set up
the
OS selector menus and must be defeated with a DOS ute to write the MBR to
zero.
I love Disk Suite my go to proggy for reformating,
partitioning, erasing HDD, Multiple OS partitions etc.,
but it should not be used lightly on a trial basis. It beats
Norton Utilities hands down for my needs.
Every pig has it's kissy face...
Regards,
El Miguel
"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:44b04df7$1@linux...
> The interface is much nicer, it finds nics easily and finds my server
> network share effortlessly to put the image on.
>
> Aaron Allen wrote:
> > Define?
> >
> > AA
> >
> >
> > "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:44afac71$1@linux...
> >
> >>Acronis drive image kicks the ghosts butt. :-)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> > http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
> >
> >
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| Re: BTW: Paris XP, K8NS ultra939...any pitfalls??..(Kim?)..thanks! [message #70142 is a reply to message #70140] |
Sun, 09 July 2006 10:01 |
John [1]
Messages: 2229
Registered: September 2005
|
Senior Member |
|
|
well said Mr. Miguel !
Miguel Vigil wrote:
> I have to agree with the Acronis *True Image* recommendation.
> It is very easy to use and averages about seven minutes for a 5GB partition.
> It can verify images in minute. The comments field lets one write plenty of
> info. It has a pleasant GUI which is sizeable and there is an exceptional
> amount
> of sub menu choices which do not freak out like the Ghost always did.
>
> Worst for me was Ghost started requesting 2nd, and 3rd target disks and
> failed to make safe images. What I mean above is Ghost stated the target
> disk is full,
> while I had nearly 80GB of clean storage space available. Probably
> something to do
> with DOS limits or such. Many of my earliest ghost backups from many years
> are
> corrupt when read by ghost. In addition, Symantec changed our lovely Ghost
> and
> the newest version must be done while windows is running. I have not been
> able to
> create a startup disk version from the program (that feature has been
> eliminated).
>
> If you try the Acronis proggies *True Image* or *Disk Suite* approach with
> caution
>
> Do a Ghost or Drive Image (now swallowed by Symantec and morphed into Ghost)
> because Disk Suite writes to the MBR of the system drive. This is to set up
> the
> OS selector menus and must be defeated with a DOS ute to write the MBR to
> zero.
>
> I love Disk Suite my go to proggy for reformating,
> partitioning, erasing HDD, Multiple OS partitions etc.,
> but it should not be used lightly on a trial basis. It beats
> Norton Utilities hands down for my needs.
>
>
> Every pig has it's kissy face...
>
> Regards,
>
> El Miguel
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:44b04df7$1@linux...
>
>>The interface is much nicer, it finds nics easily and finds my server
>>network share effortlessly to put the image on.
>>
>>Aaron Allen wrote:
>>
>>>Define?
>>>
>>>AA
>>>
>>>
>>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:44afac71$1@linux...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Acronis drive image kicks the ghosts butt. :-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
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| Re: BTW: Paris XP, K8NS ultra939...any pitfalls??..(Kim?)..thanks! [message #70158 is a reply to message #70134] |
Sun, 09 July 2006 17:57 |
Mike Audet
Messages: 294
Registered: December 2008
|
Senior Member |
|
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Hi Guys,
I just thought I'd throw my 2 cents in on this.
I've never had a problem with an EDS card sharing with my AGP device or anything
else.
Maybe I've been lucky. I don't know.
Also, this is very theoretical, but my understanding is that PCI cards don't
even use IRQs the way ISA cards used them. The BIOS assignment is just for
legacy use. I suspect that Windows XP ignores them completely and directly
uses the 4 interrupts (A, B, C, and D) that PCI cards can "really" use.
The PCI spec requires interrupt sharing at the hardware level. An IRQ number
assigned in the bios is just a pointer to one of these "real" interrupts
in case old software goes looking for an ISA device.
Or, I could be completely wrong, :)
All the best,
Mike
John <no@no.com> wrote:
>Well, It appears that agp is sharing with 2 and 1 and 5 are NOT sharing
>IRQs. My mx800 asus mb manual is wrong. I wonder if this one is wrong
>too. Pretty weird.
>
>You should be able to assign irqs to the pci slots in the bios. The
>lower number the higher priority is my understanding. That's why I put
>eds cards on 3. I also disable parallel port, serial, usb and anything
>else I'm not using. Sharing eds with anything seems a bad idea. My 2
>eds are both on irq 3. Can you put 4 eds cards on the same irq or is it
>better for each to have it's own.
>
>Man, is there a motherboard with independent irqs on each slot without
>this sharing shit !
>
>Horseshit I tell you.
>
>Kim W. wrote:
>> Hi, John.
>> I can't see the PCI slot numbers on the mobo, (or in the manual),
>> but here is what I have in the slots starting from the one next
>> to the AGP slot, and the IRQ assignments in the black boot-up
>> screen:
>>
>> 1: Nvidia Quadro PCI irq 11
>> 2: EDS irq 9
>> 3: EDS irq 7
>> 4: EDS irq 5
>> 5: EDS irq 10
>>
>> Onboard audio uses irq 12, Firewire controller uses irq 10,
>> ACPI controller uses irq 9.
>>
>> Is this enough info?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kim.
>>
>> BTW why would my brand new 250 gb ata drive only have been formatted for
>> 130gb during XP install? Only just noticed it.
>>
>>
>> John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>
>>>What slots are each card in. Also, their manual didn't mention what agp
>>
>>
>>>uses for irq and whether it shares or not. Can't you tell on boot up
>>>when that black resource screen shows what's on what?
>>>
>>>It would be good to know if you have 4 or 5 independent IRQs
>>>2,3,4,1/5,agp
>>>
>>>I run my 2 eds cards on the same IRQ 3 on my box.
>>>
>>>John
>>>
>>>Kim W. wrote:
>>>
>>>>Just returned from "The Dungeon", and am happy to report that
>>>>all appears to be working.
>>>>(4 EDS's, 2 Nvidia Qudras).
>>>>Thus far I have no DX/VST plugins installed.
>>>>(In the past this is where my installs have come unstuck.)
>>>>After initial disappointment with the dreaded Crash-on-
>>>>exit, I remembered about the "minimum install" effects subsystem fix,
>>
>> with
>>
>>>>wires.
>>>>Applying this seems to have cured the COE.
>>>>I'm pretty stoked at the moment, and have ghosted.
>>>>All slots are full, and there appears to be some sharing going on,(I
attached
>>>>a screen grab)
>>>>but time will tell if it causes any problems. I just bunged all
>>>>four EDS's in, and let the system allocate resources as it
>>>>seemed fit.
>>>>I did, however, disable the SATA, and the parallel port in the bios.
>>>>Time for bed, as it's been 12 hours since I deemed it "Beer O'clock".
>>>>
>>>>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>It doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5, unless
>>>>>
>>>>>that's
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>just assumed...? I know often 1 shares with AGP.
>>>>>
>>>>>Kim...........if PCI 1 and 5 "do not" share with the AGP, this is
>>>>>potentially a HUGE deal and this would be the most flexible (semi current)
>>>>>mobo in existence today for 939 CPU's. I cannot find any reference to
>>
>> this
>>
>>>>>in the Gigabyte manual. When/if it is possible, could you insert a PCI
>>
>> card
>>
>>>>>in slot 1 or 5 (or both), then load the drivers for whatever that device
>>>>
>>>>is,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>then go to your system info, look under system resources, navigate to
>>>>>hardware resources>IRQ and let us know if the device(s) in PCI slots
1
>>
>> or
>>
>>>>5
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>is/are sharing an IRQ with the AGP? If not, I'm gonna be thinking hard
>>
>> about
>>
>>>>>switching mobo's on my Paris rig and trying to get that duallie CPU
>>>>>happening with my Paris rig. Theis could conceivably allow 5 x EDS cards
>>>>
>>>>to
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>operate on a dual core Athlon. I would do this here, but I don't have
>>
>> all
>>
>>>>>the componentry that I need yet and the ergonomics of moving all of
my
>>
>> EDS
>>
>>>>>cards to a Magma chassis (which is already being used by another DAW)
>>
>> is
>>
>>>>>something that would take my entire studio down for a couple of days,
>>
>> and
>>
>>>>>I'm pretty busy right now.
>>>>>
>>>>>Deej
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:44afb30d$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Mine doesn't show that it's sharing with AGP, though 1 does share with
>>>>
>>>>5.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>It has a BIOS window you can go to which allows you to set manually
which
>>>>>>interrupt each slot uses, and tells you what will be sharing with it
>>
>> if
>>
>>>>>you
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>use that one. I have some things sharing, but everything is working
fine
>>>>>>so I'm not concerned. Firewire shares with an EDS for example, but
I
>>
>> never
>>
>>>>>>use Paris and firewire together so that's not really a problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>It doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5, unless
>>>>>
>>>>>that's
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>just assumed...? I know often 1 shares with AGP.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>lack of interrupt control is a deal breaker for me
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Kim wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>The biggest pitfall I found with the K8NS was that while the manual
>>>>>
>>>>>states
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>you have pretty good interrupt control, they actually removed it
from
>>>>>>
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>bios. The latest BIOS which gives you proper interrupt control (unless
>>>>>>
>>>>>>they've
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>added it back - haven't checked for months) is version F6, which
I
>>>>
>>>>use.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>It's
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>quite old but I haven't had any issues. The thing never crashes.
It's
>>>>>>
>>>>>>maybe
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>crashed once or twice since I've had it, which is about 12 months
now.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>My motherboard seems to have a quirk in the BIOS and I'm currently
>>>>>
>>>>>running
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>on the backup BIOS on the board, but she runs fine like that. It
>>>>>
>>>>>forgets
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>HDD's on startup. Not sure why... (unless it's a quirk of the F6
>>>>>
>>>>>firmware,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>but that seems unlikely...)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Apart from that though it's great. I run only a two card system though,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>and
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>only dual head video (A Nvidia card currently) but have had no issues
>>>>>>
>>>>>>apart
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>from the BIOS losing hdd's on startup which appears to be a MB fault
>>>>>
>>>>>(should
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>take it back before my warranty runs out...).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>It's quick though, and very stable. I'm happy with it. :o)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>>>>>>>>>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>>>>>>>>>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>>>>>>>>>Cheers.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Hi, all.
>>>>>>>>>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>>>>>>>>>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view
to
>>>>>
>>>>>upgrade
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>at some stage.
>>>>>>>>>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>>>>>>>>>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
>>>>>>>>>>is one of the fave mobos.
>>>>>>>>>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>>>>>>>>>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far
as
>>>>>
>>>>>which
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in
>>
>> an
>>
>>>>>attempt
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>>>>>>>>>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four
>>>>>
>>>>>C-16's.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>>>>>>>>>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>>>>>>>>>>Did it pan out for you??
>>>>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>Kim #2.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------
>>>>>
>>
>>
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| Re: BTW: Paris XP, K8NS ultra939...any pitfalls??..(Kim?)..thanks! [message #70159 is a reply to message #70158] |
Sun, 09 July 2006 18:03 |
Kim
Messages: 1246
Registered: October 2005
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Senior Member |
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I understand the Matrox cards did have an issue with this. Brian Tankersley
and Deej, among others I think, have confimed this. I am running an NVidia
dual head and it seems fine sharing with an EDS, and Kim W's system so far
seems happy with it also.
It looks as if Deej is planning to, as the brave soldier he is, also delve
into experimenting on this MB with NVidia graphics cards and see what comes
of it. It's looking like, at least on this MB with NVidia chipset and graphics
cards, you can fairly much do as you please.
I'm suspicious that it's just the Matrox cards which had the issue. Also
I had a bad time with an ATI card there for a while. NVidia cards are shaping
up as the new way to go I think.
Cheers,
Kim.
"Mike Audet" <mike@mikeF-SPAMaudet.com> wrote:
>
>Hi Guys,
>
>I just thought I'd throw my 2 cents in on this.
>
>I've never had a problem with an EDS card sharing with my AGP device or
anything
>else.
>
>Maybe I've been lucky. I don't know.
>
>Also, this is very theoretical, but my understanding is that PCI cards don't
>even use IRQs the way ISA cards used them. The BIOS assignment is just for
>legacy use. I suspect that Windows XP ignores them completely and directly
>uses the 4 interrupts (A, B, C, and D) that PCI cards can "really" use.
>The PCI spec requires interrupt sharing at the hardware level. An IRQ number
>assigned in the bios is just a pointer to one of these "real" interrupts
>in case old software goes looking for an ISA device.
>
>Or, I could be completely wrong, :)
>
>All the best,
>
>Mike
>
>John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>Well, It appears that agp is sharing with 2 and 1 and 5 are NOT sharing
>
>>IRQs. My mx800 asus mb manual is wrong. I wonder if this one is wrong
>
>>too. Pretty weird.
>>
>>You should be able to assign irqs to the pci slots in the bios. The
>>lower number the higher priority is my understanding. That's why I put
>
>>eds cards on 3. I also disable parallel port, serial, usb and anything
>
>>else I'm not using. Sharing eds with anything seems a bad idea. My 2
>>eds are both on irq 3. Can you put 4 eds cards on the same irq or is it
>
>>better for each to have it's own.
>>
>>Man, is there a motherboard with independent irqs on each slot without
>>this sharing shit !
>>
>>Horseshit I tell you.
>>
>>Kim W. wrote:
>>> Hi, John.
>>> I can't see the PCI slot numbers on the mobo, (or in the manual),
>>> but here is what I have in the slots starting from the one next
>>> to the AGP slot, and the IRQ assignments in the black boot-up
>>> screen:
>>>
>>> 1: Nvidia Quadro PCI irq 11
>>> 2: EDS irq 9
>>> 3: EDS irq 7
>>> 4: EDS irq 5
>>> 5: EDS irq 10
>>>
>>> Onboard audio uses irq 12, Firewire controller uses irq 10,
>>> ACPI controller uses irq 9.
>>>
>>> Is this enough info?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Kim.
>>>
>>> BTW why would my brand new 250 gb ata drive only have been formatted
for
>>> 130gb during XP install? Only just noticed it.
>>>
>>>
>>> John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>What slots are each card in. Also, their manual didn't mention what
agp
>>>
>>>
>>>>uses for irq and whether it shares or not. Can't you tell on boot up
>
>>>>when that black resource screen shows what's on what?
>>>>
>>>>It would be good to know if you have 4 or 5 independent IRQs
>>>>2,3,4,1/5,agp
>>>>
>>>>I run my 2 eds cards on the same IRQ 3 on my box.
>>>>
>>>>John
>>>>
>>>>Kim W. wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Just returned from "The Dungeon", and am happy to report that
>>>>>all appears to be working.
>>>>>(4 EDS's, 2 Nvidia Qudras).
>>>>>Thus far I have no DX/VST plugins installed.
>>>>>(In the past this is where my installs have come unstuck.)
>>>>>After initial disappointment with the dreaded Crash-on-
>>>>>exit, I remembered about the "minimum install" effects subsystem fix,
>>>
>>> with
>>>
>>>>>wires.
>>>>>Applying this seems to have cured the COE.
>>>>>I'm pretty stoked at the moment, and have ghosted.
>>>>>All slots are full, and there appears to be some sharing going on,(I
>attached
>>>>>a screen grab)
>>>>>but time will tell if it causes any problems. I just bunged all
>>>>>four EDS's in, and let the system allocate resources as it
>>>>>seemed fit.
>>>>>I did, however, disable the SATA, and the parallel port in the bios.
>>>>>Time for bed, as it's been 12 hours since I deemed it "Beer O'clock".
>>>>>
>>>>>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>It doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5, unless
>>>>>>
>>>>>>that's
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>just assumed...? I know often 1 shares with AGP.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Kim...........if PCI 1 and 5 "do not" share with the AGP, this is
>>>>>>potentially a HUGE deal and this would be the most flexible (semi current)
>>>>>>mobo in existence today for 939 CPU's. I cannot find any reference
to
>>>
>>> this
>>>
>>>>>>in the Gigabyte manual. When/if it is possible, could you insert a
PCI
>>>
>>> card
>>>
>>>>>>in slot 1 or 5 (or both), then load the drivers for whatever that device
>>>>>
>>>>>is,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>then go to your system info, look under system resources, navigate
to
>>>>>>hardware resources>IRQ and let us know if the device(s) in PCI slots
>1
>>>
>>> or
>>>
>>>>>5
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>is/are sharing an IRQ with the AGP? If not, I'm gonna be thinking hard
>>>
>>> about
>>>
>>>>>>switching mobo's on my Paris rig and trying to get that duallie CPU
>>>>>>happening with my Paris rig. Theis could conceivably allow 5 x EDS
cards
>>>>>
>>>>>to
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>operate on a dual core Athlon. I would do this here, but I don't have
>>>
>>> all
>>>
>>>>>>the componentry that I need yet and the ergonomics of moving all of
>my
>>>
>>> EDS
>>>
>>>>>>cards to a Magma chassis (which is already being used by another DAW)
>>>
>>> is
>>>
>>>>>>something that would take my entire studio down for a couple of days,
>>>
>>> and
>>>
>>>>>>I'm pretty busy right now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Deej
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:44afb30d$1@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Mine doesn't show that it's sharing with AGP, though 1 does share
with
>>>>>
>>>>>5.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>It has a BIOS window you can go to which allows you to set manually
>which
>>>>>>>interrupt each slot uses, and tells you what will be sharing with
it
>>>
>>> if
>>>
>>>>>>you
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>use that one. I have some things sharing, but everything is working
>fine
>>>>>>>so I'm not concerned. Firewire shares with an EDS for example, but
>I
>>>
>>> never
>>>
>>>>>>>use Paris and firewire together so that's not really a problem.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>It doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5, unless
>>>>>>
>>>>>>that's
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>just assumed...? I know often 1 shares with AGP.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>lack of interrupt control is a deal breaker for me
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Kim wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>The biggest pitfall I found with the K8NS was that while the manual
>>>>>>
>>>>>>states
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>you have pretty good interrupt control, they actually removed it
>from
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>bios. The latest BIOS which gives you proper interrupt control (unless
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>they've
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>added it back - haven't checked for months) is version F6, which
>I
>>>>>
>>>>>use.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>It's
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>quite old but I haven't had any issues. The thing never crashes.
>It's
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>maybe
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>crashed once or twice since I've had it, which is about 12 months
>now.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>My motherboard seems to have a quirk in the BIOS and I'm currently
>>>>>>
>>>>>>running
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>on the backup BIOS on the board, but she runs fine like that. It
>>>>>>
>>>>>>forgets
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>HDD's on startup. Not sure why... (unless it's a quirk of the F6
>>>>>>
>>>>>>firmware,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>but that seems unlikely...)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Apart from that though it's great. I run only a two card system
though,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>only dual head video (A Nvidia card currently) but have had no issues
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>apart
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>from the BIOS losing hdd's on startup which appears to be a MB fault
>>>>>>
>>>>>>(should
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>take it back before my warranty runs out...).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>It's quick though, and very stable. I'm happy with it. :o)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>>>>>>>>>>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>>>>>>>>>>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>>>>>>>>>>Cheers.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Hi, all.
>>>>>>>>>>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>>>>>>>>>>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view
>to
>>>>>>
>>>>>>upgrade
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>at some stage.
>>>>>>>>>>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>>>>>>>>>>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
>>>>>>>>>>>is one of the fave mobos.
>>>>>>>>>>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>>>>>>>>>>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far
>as
>>>>>>
>>>>>>which
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use,
in
>>>
>>> an
>>>
>>>>>>attempt
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>>>>>>>>>>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four
>>>>>>
>>>>>>C-16's.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>>>>>>>>>>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>>>>>>>>>>>Did it pan out for you??
>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>Kim #2.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------
>>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
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| Re: BTW: Paris XP, K8NS ultra939...any pitfalls??..(Kim?)..thanks! [message #70161 is a reply to message #70140] |
Sun, 09 July 2006 18:51 |
Chris Ludwig
Messages: 868
Registered: May 2006
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Senior Member |
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Hi Miguel,
Acronis is by far the best. We use it extensively here at ADK and ship
all of our machines with a OEM version with the secure zones and
recovery CD/DVD s included. Its been the most reliable and cost
effective recover software we've ever used. It;s the only program that
I've sen that can make a reliable OS image while Booted into the OS.
Its works flawlessly over networks too which is great for us.
Chris
Miguel Vigil wrote:
> I have to agree with the Acronis *True Image* recommendation.
> It is very easy to use and averages about seven minutes for a 5GB partition.
> It can verify images in minute. The comments field lets one write plenty of
> info. It has a pleasant GUI which is sizeable and there is an exceptional
> amount
> of sub menu choices which do not freak out like the Ghost always did.
>
> Worst for me was Ghost started requesting 2nd, and 3rd target disks and
> failed to make safe images. What I mean above is Ghost stated the target
> disk is full,
> while I had nearly 80GB of clean storage space available. Probably
> something to do
> with DOS limits or such. Many of my earliest ghost backups from many years
> are
> corrupt when read by ghost. In addition, Symantec changed our lovely Ghost
> and
> the newest version must be done while windows is running. I have not been
> able to
> create a startup disk version from the program (that feature has been
> eliminated).
>
> If you try the Acronis proggies *True Image* or *Disk Suite* approach with
> caution
>
> Do a Ghost or Drive Image (now swallowed by Symantec and morphed into Ghost)
> because Disk Suite writes to the MBR of the system drive. This is to set up
> the
> OS selector menus and must be defeated with a DOS ute to write the MBR to
> zero.
>
> I love Disk Suite my go to proggy for reformating,
> partitioning, erasing HDD, Multiple OS partitions etc.,
> but it should not be used lightly on a trial basis. It beats
> Norton Utilities hands down for my needs.
>
>
> Every pig has it's kissy face...
>
> Regards,
>
> El Miguel
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:44b04df7$1@linux...
>
>>The interface is much nicer, it finds nics easily and finds my server
>>network share effortlessly to put the image on.
>>
>>Aaron Allen wrote:
>>
>>>Define?
>>>
>>>AA
>>>
>>>
>>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:44afac71$1@linux...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Acronis drive image kicks the ghosts butt. :-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK
chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
(859) 635-5762
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| Re: BTW: Paris XP, K8NS ultra939...any pitfalls??..(Kim?)..thanks! [message #70162 is a reply to message #70159] |
Sun, 09 July 2006 19:35 |
Tom Bruhl
Messages: 1368
Registered: June 2007
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Senior Member |
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Kim,
I had no luck with Matrox 550 sharing with EDS. They must be
using different IRQs or the system is useless. I also couldn't
get an ati card to work at all in XP with Paris but that was two years
ago on an ASUS P4 mobo.
Tom
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message =
news:44b1a758$1@linux...
I understand the Matrox cards did have an issue with this. Brian =
Tankersley
and Deej, among others I think, have confimed this. I am running an =
NVidia
dual head and it seems fine sharing with an EDS, and Kim W's system so =
far
seems happy with it also.
It looks as if Deej is planning to, as the brave soldier he is, also =
delve
into experimenting on this MB with NVidia graphics cards and see what =
comes
of it. It's looking like, at least on this MB with NVidia chipset and =
graphics
cards, you can fairly much do as you please.
I'm suspicious that it's just the Matrox cards which had the issue. =
Also
I had a bad time with an ATI card there for a while. NVidia cards are =
shaping
up as the new way to go I think.
Cheers,
Kim.
"Mike Audet" <mike@mikeF-SPAMaudet.com> wrote:
>
>Hi Guys,
>
>I just thought I'd throw my 2 cents in on this.
>
>I've never had a problem with an EDS card sharing with my AGP device =
or
anything
>else.
>
>Maybe I've been lucky. I don't know.
>
>Also, this is very theoretical, but my understanding is that PCI =
cards don't
>even use IRQs the way ISA cards used them. The BIOS assignment is =
just for
>legacy use. I suspect that Windows XP ignores them completely and =
directly
>uses the 4 interrupts (A, B, C, and D) that PCI cards can "really" =
use.
>The PCI spec requires interrupt sharing at the hardware level. An =
IRQ number
>assigned in the bios is just a pointer to one of these "real" =
interrupts
>in case old software goes looking for an ISA device.
>
>Or, I could be completely wrong, :)
>
>All the best,
>
>Mike
>
>John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>Well, It appears that agp is sharing with 2 and 1 and 5 are NOT =
sharing
>
>>IRQs. My mx800 asus mb manual is wrong. I wonder if this one is =
wrong
>
>>too. Pretty weird.
>>
>>You should be able to assign irqs to the pci slots in the bios. The =
>>lower number the higher priority is my understanding. That's why I =
put
>
>>eds cards on 3. I also disable parallel port, serial, usb and =
anything
>
>>else I'm not using. Sharing eds with anything seems a bad idea. My =
2
>>eds are both on irq 3. Can you put 4 eds cards on the same irq or =
is it
>
>>better for each to have it's own.
>>
>>Man, is there a motherboard with independent irqs on each slot =
without
>>this sharing shit !
>>
>>Horseshit I tell you.
>>
>>Kim W. wrote:
>>> Hi, John.
>>> I can't see the PCI slot numbers on the mobo, (or in the manual),
>>> but here is what I have in the slots starting from the one next
>>> to the AGP slot, and the IRQ assignments in the black boot-up=20
>>> screen:
>>>=20
>>> 1: Nvidia Quadro PCI irq 11
>>> 2: EDS irq 9
>>> 3: EDS irq 7
>>> 4: EDS irq 5
>>> 5: EDS irq 10
>>>=20
>>> Onboard audio uses irq 12, Firewire controller uses irq 10,
>>> ACPI controller uses irq 9.
>>>=20
>>> Is this enough info?
>>>=20
>>> Cheers,
>>> Kim.
>>>=20
>>> BTW why would my brand new 250 gb ata drive only have been =
formatted
for
>>> 130gb during XP install? Only just noticed it.
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>=20
>>>>What slots are each card in. Also, their manual didn't mention =
what
agp
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>>uses for irq and whether it shares or not. Can't you tell on boot =
up
>
>>>>when that black resource screen shows what's on what?
>>>>
>>>>It would be good to know if you have 4 or 5 independent IRQs
>>>>2,3,4,1/5,agp
>>>>
>>>>I run my 2 eds cards on the same IRQ 3 on my box.
>>>>
>>>>John
>>>>
>>>>Kim W. wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Just returned from "The Dungeon", and am happy to report that
>>>>>all appears to be working.
>>>>>(4 EDS's, 2 Nvidia Qudras).=20
>>>>>Thus far I have no DX/VST plugins installed.
>>>>>(In the past this is where my installs have come unstuck.)
>>>>>After initial disappointment with the dreaded Crash-on-
>>>>>exit, I remembered about the "minimum install" effects subsystem =
fix,
>>>=20
>>> with
>>>=20
>>>>>wires.
>>>>>Applying this seems to have cured the COE.=20
>>>>>I'm pretty stoked at the moment, and have ghosted.
>>>>>All slots are full, and there appears to be some sharing going =
on,(I
>attached
>>>>>a screen grab)
>>>>>but time will tell if it causes any problems. I just bunged all
>>>>>four EDS's in, and let the system allocate resources as it=20
>>>>>seemed fit.
>>>>>I did, however, disable the SATA, and the parallel port in the =
bios.
>>>>>Time for bed, as it's been 12 hours since I deemed it "Beer =
O'clock".
>>>>>
>>>>>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>It doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5, =
unless
>>>>>>
>>>>>>that's
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>just assumed...? I know often 1 shares with AGP.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Kim...........if PCI 1 and 5 "do not" share with the AGP, this =
is
>>>>>>potentially a HUGE deal and this would be the most flexible =
(semi current)
>>>>>>mobo in existence today for 939 CPU's. I cannot find any =
reference
to
>>>=20
>>> this
>>>=20
>>>>>>in the Gigabyte manual. When/if it is possible, could you insert =
a
PCI
>>>=20
>>> card
>>>=20
>>>>>>in slot 1 or 5 (or both), then load the drivers for whatever =
that device
>>>>>
>>>>>is,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>then go to your system info, look under system resources, =
navigate
to
>>>>>>hardware resources>IRQ and let us know if the device(s) in PCI =
slots
>1
>>>=20
>>> or
>>>=20
>>>>>5
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>is/are sharing an IRQ with the AGP? If not, I'm gonna be =
thinking hard
>>>=20
>>> about
>>>=20
>>>>>>switching mobo's on my Paris rig and trying to get that duallie =
CPU
>>>>>>happening with my Paris rig. Theis could conceivably allow 5 x =
EDS
cards
>>>>>
>>>>>to
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>operate on a dual core Athlon. I would do this here, but I don't =
have
>>>=20
>>> all
>>>=20
>>>>>>the componentry that I need yet and the ergonomics of moving all =
of
>my
>>>=20
>>> EDS
>>>=20
>>>>>>cards to a Magma chassis (which is already being used by another =
DAW)
>>>=20
>>> is
>>>=20
>>>>>>something that would take my entire studio down for a couple of =
days,
>>>=20
>>> and
>>>=20
>>>>>>I'm pretty busy right now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Deej
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message =
news:44afb30d$1@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Mine doesn't show that it's sharing with AGP, though 1 does =
share
with
>>>>>
>>>>>5.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>It has a BIOS window you can go to which allows you to set =
manually
>which
>>>>>>>interrupt each slot uses, and tells you what will be sharing =
with
it
>>>=20
>>> if
>>>=20
>>>>>>you
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>use that one. I have some things sharing, but everything is =
working
>fine
>>>>>>>so I'm not concerned. Firewire shares with an EDS for example, =
but
>I
>>>=20
>>> never
>>>=20
>>>>>>>use Paris and firewire together so that's not really a problem.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>It doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5, =
unless
>>>>>>
>>>>>>that's
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>just assumed...? I know often 1 shares with AGP.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>lack of interrupt control is a deal breaker for me
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Kim wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>The biggest pitfall I found with the K8NS was that while the =
manual
>>>>>>
>>>>>>states
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>you have pretty good interrupt control, they actually removed =
it
>from
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>bios. The latest BIOS which gives you proper interrupt =
control (unless
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>they've
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>added it back - haven't checked for months) is version F6, =
which
>I
>>>>>
>>>>>use.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>It's
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>quite old but I haven't had any issues. The thing never =
crashes.
>It's
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>maybe
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>crashed once or twice since I've had it, which is about 12 =
months
>now.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>My motherboard seems to have a quirk in the BIOS and I'm =
currently
>>>>>>
>>>>>>running
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>on the backup BIOS on the board, but she runs fine like that. =
It
>>>>>>
>>>>>>forgets
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>HDD's on startup. Not sure why... (unless it's a quirk of the =
F6
>>>>>>
>>>>>>firmware,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>but that seems unlikely...)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Apart from that though it's great. I run only a two card =
system
though,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>only dual head video (A Nvidia card currently) but have had =
no issues
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>apart
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>from the BIOS losing hdd's on startup which appears to be a =
MB fault
>>>>>>
>>>>>>(should
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>take it back before my warranty runs out...).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>It's quick though, and very stable. I'm happy with it. :o)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>>>>>>>>>>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>>>>>>>>>>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>>>>>>>>>>Cheers.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Hi, all.
>>>>>>>>>>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>>>>>>>>>>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a =
view
>to
>>>>>>
>>>>>>upgrade
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>at some stage.
>>>>>>>>>>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>>>>>>>>>>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and =
the K8NS
>>>>>>>>>>>is one of the fave mobos.
>>>>>>>>>>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the =
Gigabyte.)
>>>>>>>>>>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as =
far
>as
>>>>>>
>>>>>>which
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't =
use,
in
>>>=20
>>> an
>>>=20
>>>>>>attempt
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>>>>>>>>>>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and =
four
>>>>>>
>>>>>>C-16's.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>>>>>>>>>>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>>>>>>>>>>>Did it pan out for you??
>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>Kim #2.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
=
>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ -------=
-----
>>>>>>
>>>=20
>>>=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Kim,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I had no luck with Matrox 550 sharing =
with=20
EDS. They must be</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>using different IRQs or the system is=20
useless. I also couldn't</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>get an ati card to work at all in XP =
with Paris but=20
that was two years</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ago on an ASUS P4 mobo.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Kim" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:hiddensounds@hotmail.com">hiddensounds@hotmail.com</A>>=
wrote=20
in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:44b1a758$1@linux">news:44b1a758$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR><BR>=
I=20
understand the Matrox cards did have an issue with this. Brian=20
Tankersley<BR>and Deej, among others I think, have confimed this. I am =
running=20
an NVidia<BR>dual head and it seems fine sharing with an EDS, and Kim =
W's=20
system so far<BR>seems happy with it also.<BR><BR>It looks as if Deej =
is=20
planning to, as the brave soldier he is, also delve<BR>into =
experimenting on=20
this MB with NVidia graphics cards and see what comes<BR>of it. It's =
looking=20
like, at least on this MB with NVidia chipset and graphics<BR>cards, =
you can=20
fairly much do as you please.<BR><BR>I'm suspicious that it's just the =
Matrox=20
cards which had the issue. Also<BR>I had a bad time with an ATI card =
there for=20
a while. NVidia cards are shaping<BR>up as the new way to go I=20
think.<BR><BR>Cheers,<BR>Kim.<BR><BR><BR>"Mike Audet" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:mike@mikeF-SPAMaudet.com">mike@mikeF-SPAMaudet.com</A>>=
=20
wrote:<BR>><BR>>Hi Guys,<BR>><BR>>I just thought I'd throw =
my 2=20
cents in on this.<BR>><BR>>I've never had a problem with an EDS =
card=20
sharing with my AGP device =
or<BR>anything<BR>>else.<BR>><BR>>Maybe=20
I've been lucky. I don't know.<BR>><BR>>Also, this is very =
theoretical, but my understanding is that PCI cards don't<BR>>even =
use IRQs=20
the way ISA cards used them. The BIOS assignment is just =
for<BR>>legacy=20
use. I suspect that Windows XP ignores them completely and=20
directly<BR>>uses the 4 interrupts (A, B, C, and D) that PCI cards =
can=20
"really" use.<BR><BR>>The PCI spec requires interrupt sharing at =
the=20
hardware level. An IRQ number<BR>>assigned in the bios is =
just a=20
pointer to one of these "real" interrupts<BR>>in case old software =
goes=20
looking for an ISA device.<BR>><BR>>Or, I could be completely =
wrong,=20
:)<BR>><BR>>All the =
best,<BR>><BR>>Mike<BR>><BR>>John <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:no@no.com">no@no.com</A>> wrote:<BR>>>Well, It =
appears=20
that agp is sharing with 2 and 1 and 5 are NOT=20
sharing<BR>><BR>>>IRQs. My mx800 asus mb manual is =
wrong. =20
I wonder if this one is wrong<BR>><BR>>>too. Pretty=20
weird.<BR>>><BR>>>You should be able to assign irqs to the =
pci=20
slots in the bios. The <BR>>>lower number the higher =
priority is=20
my understanding. That's why I put<BR>><BR>>>eds cards =
on=20
3. I also disable parallel port, serial, usb and=20
anything<BR>><BR>>>else I'm not using. Sharing eds with =
anything seems a bad idea. My 2<BR><BR>>>eds are both on =
irq=20
3. Can you put 4 eds cards on the same irq or is=20
it<BR>><BR>>>better for each to have it's=20
own.<BR>>><BR>>>Man, is there a motherboard with =
independent irqs=20
on each slot without<BR><BR>>>this sharing shit=20
!<BR>>><BR>>>Horseshit I tell =
you.<BR>>><BR>>>Kim W.=20
wrote:<BR>>>> Hi, John.<BR>>>> I can't see the PCI =
slot=20
numbers on the mobo, (or in the manual),<BR>>>> but here is =
what I=20
have in the slots starting from the one next<BR>>>> to the =
AGP slot,=20
and the IRQ assignments in the black boot-up <BR>>>>=20
screen:<BR>>>> <BR>>>> 1: Nvidia Quadro PCI irq=20
11<BR>>>> 2: EDS irq 9<BR>>>> 3: EDS irq =
7<BR>>>>=20
4: EDS irq 5<BR>>>> 5: EDS irq 10<BR>>>> =
<BR>>>>=20
Onboard audio uses irq 12, Firewire controller uses irq =
10,<BR>>>>=20
ACPI controller uses irq 9.<BR>>>> <BR>>>> Is this =
enough=20
info?<BR>>>> <BR>>>> Cheers,<BR>>>>=20
Kim.<BR>>>> <BR>>>> BTW why would my brand new 250 =
gb ata=20
drive only have been formatted<BR>for<BR>>>> 130gb during XP =
install?=20
Only just noticed it.<BR>>>> <BR>>>> =
<BR>>>> John=20
<<A href=3D"mailto:no@no.com">no@no.com</A>> =
wrote:<BR>>>>=20
<BR>>>>>What slots are each card in. Also, their =
manual=20
didn't mention what<BR>agp<BR>>>> <BR>>>>=20
<BR>>>>>uses for irq and whether it shares or not. =
Can't you=20
tell on boot up<BR>><BR>>>>>when that black resource =
screen=20
shows what's on what?<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>It would =
be good=20
to know if you have 4 or 5 independent=20
=
IRQs<BR>>>>>2,3,4,1/5,agp<BR>>>>> <BR>>>>=
>I=20
run my 2 eds cards on the same IRQ 3 on my=20
=
box.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>John <BR>>>>><BR>&=
gt;>>>Kim=20
W. wrote:<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>>Just returned =
from "The=20
Dungeon", and am happy to report that<BR>>>>>>all =
appears to be=20
working.<BR>>>>>>(4 EDS's, 2 Nvidia Qudras).=20
<BR>>>>>>Thus far I have no DX/VST plugins=20
installed.<BR>>>>>>(In the past this is where my =
installs have=20
come unstuck.)<BR>>>>>>After initial disappointment =
with the=20
dreaded Crash-on-<BR>>>>>>exit, I remembered about the =
"minimum=20
install" effects subsystem fix,<BR>>>> <BR>>>>=20
with<BR>>>>=20
<BR>>>>>>wires.<BR>>>>>>Applying this =
seems to=20
have cured the COE. <BR>>>>>>I'm pretty stoked at the =
moment,=20
and have ghosted.<BR>>>>>>All slots are full, and there =
appears=20
to be some sharing going =
on,(I<BR>>attached<BR>>>>>>a screen=20
grab)<BR>>>>>>but time will tell if it causes any =
problems. I=20
just bunged all<BR>>>>>>four EDS's in, and let the =
system=20
allocate resources as it <BR>>>>>>seemed=20
fit.<BR>>>>>>I did, however, disable the SATA, and the =
parallel=20
port in the bios.<BR>>>>>>Time for bed, as it's been 12 =
hours=20
since I deemed it "Beer=20
O'clock".<BR>>>>>><BR >>>>>>"DJ" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net">animix_spam-this-ahole=
_@animas.net</A>>=20
=
wrote:<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>> <BR>>>>>=
;>>>It=20
doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5,=20
=
unless<BR>>>>>>> <BR>>>>>>>that's<BR >&=
gt;>>>>><BR>>>>>>> <BR>>>>>&g=
t;>>just=20
assumed...? I know often 1 shares with=20
=
AGP.<BR>>>>>>><BR > >>>>>>Kim......... .=
..if=20
PCI 1 and 5 "do not" share with the AGP, this=20
is<BR>>>>>>>potentially a HUGE deal and this would =
be the=20
most flexible (semi current)<BR>>>>>>>mobo in =
existence=20
today for 939 CPU's. I cannot find any reference<BR>to<BR>>>> =
<BR>>>> this<BR>>>> <BR>>>>>>>in =
the=20
Gigabyte manual. When/if it is possible, could you insert=20
a<BR>PCI<BR>>>> <BR>>>> card<BR>>>>=20
<BR>>>>>>>in slot 1 or 5 (or both), then load the =
drivers=20
for whatever that=20
=
device<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>>is, <BR>>>>=
>><BR>>>>>> <BR>>>>>>>then=20
go to your system info, look under system resources,=20
navigate<BR>to<BR>>>>>>>hardware resources>IRQ =
and let us=20
know if the device(s) in PCI slots<BR>>1<BR>>>> =
<BR>>>>=20
or<BR>>>>=20
=
<BR>>>>>>5<BR>>>>>> <BR>>>>>>=
<BR>>>>>>>is/are=20
sharing an IRQ with the AGP? If not, I'm gonna be thinking=20
hard<BR>>>> <BR>>>> about<BR>>>>=20
<BR>>>>>>>switching mobo's on my Paris rig and =
trying to get=20
that duallie CPU<BR>>>>>>>happening with my Paris =
rig. Theis=20
could conceivably allow 5 x=20
=
EDS<BR>cards<BR>>>>>> <BR>>>>>>to<BR>>>=
;>>><BR>>>>>> <BR>>>>>>>operate =
on a dual core Athlon. I would do this here, but I don't =
have<BR>>>>=20
<BR>>>> all<BR>>>> <BR>>>>>>>the=20
componentry that I need yet and the ergonomics of moving all=20
of<BR>>my<BR>>>> <BR>>>> EDS<BR>>>>=20
<BR>>>>>>>cards to a Magma chassis (which is already =
being=20
used by another DAW)<BR>>>> <BR>>>> =
is<BR>>>>=20
<BR>>>>>>>something that would take my entire studio =
down=20
for a couple of days,<BR>>>> <BR>>>> =
and<BR>>>>=20
<BR>>>>>>>I'm pretty busy right=20
=
now.<BR>>>>>>><BR >>>>>>>Deej<BR>>&=
gt;>>>><BR>>>>>>> <BR>>>>>>&g=
t;<BR>>>>>>><BR >>>>>>>"Kim"=20
<<A =
href=3D"mailto:hiddensounds@hotmail.com">hiddensounds@hotmail.com</A>>=
=20
wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:44afb30d$1@linux">news:44afb30d$1@linux</A>...<BR>>>&g=
t;>>><BR>>>>>>> <BR>>>>>>>>=
;Mine=20
doesn't show that it's sharing with AGP, though 1 does=20
=
share<BR>with<BR>>>>>> <BR>>>>>>5.<BR>>&g=
t;>>><BR>>>>>> <BR>>>>>>>>It =
has a BIOS window you can go to which allows you to set=20
manually<BR>>which<BR> >>>>>>>inte rrupt each =
slot uses,=20
and tells you what will be sharing with<BR>it<BR>>>> =
<BR>>>>=20
if<BR>>>>=20
=
<BR>>>>>>>you<BR >>>>>>><BR>>>&g=
t;>>><BR> >>>>>>>use= 20
that one. I have some things sharing, but everything is=20
working<BR>>fine<BR>>>>>>>>so I'm not =
concerned.=20
Firewire shares with an EDS for example, but<BR>>I<BR>>>>=20
<BR>>>> never<BR>>>> =
<BR> >>>>>>>use= 20
Paris and firewire together so that's not really a=20
=
problem.<BR>>>>>>>> <BR>>>>>>>>I=
t=20
doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5,=20
=
unless<BR>>>>>>> <BR>>>>>>>that's<BR >&=
gt;>>>>><BR>>>>>>> <BR>>>>>&g=
t;>>just=20
assumed...? I know often 1 shares with=20
=
AGP.<BR>>>>>>>> <BR> >>>>>>>Chee r=
s,<BR> >>>>>>>Kim. <BR>>>>>>>> <BR=
>>>>>>>><BR >>>>>>>><BR >>>=
>>>>>John=20
<<A href=3D"mailto:no@no.com">no@no.com</A>>=20
=
wrote:<BR>>>>>>>> <BR>>>>>>>> <BR=
> >>>>>>>& ;gt;lack=20
of interrupt control is a deal breaker for=20
=
me<BR> >>>>>>>& ;gt; <BR> >>>>>>>& ;gt=
;Kim=20
=
wrote:<BR> >>>>>>>& ;gt; <BR>>>>>>>>=
;><BR> >>>>>>>& ;gt;>The=20
biggest pitfall I found with the K8NS was that while the=20
=
manual<BR>>>>>>> <BR>>>>>>>states<BR >&=
gt;>>>>><BR>>>>>>> <BR>>>>>&g=
t;>>>>you=20
have pretty good interrupt control, they actually removed=20
=
it<BR>>from<BR>>>>>>>> <BR>>>>>>>=
;>the<BR>>>>>>>> <BR>>>>>>>> <=
BR> >>>>>>>& ;gt;>bios.=20
The latest BIOS which gives you proper interrupt control=20
=
(unless<BR>>>>>>>> <BR>>>>>>>>th=
ey've<BR>>>>>>>> <BR>>>>>>>> <BR>=
>>>>>>>& ;gt;>added=20
it back - haven't checked for months) is version F6,=20
=
which<BR>>I<BR>>>>>> <BR>>>>>>use.<BR>>=
;>>>><BR>>>>>> <BR>>>>>>>>=
It's<BR>>>>>>>> <BR>>>>>>>> <BR>&=
gt;>>>>>>>& amp;gt;quite=20
old but I haven't had any issues. The thing never=20
=
crashes.<BR>>It's<BR>>>>>>>> <BR>>>>>&=
gt;>>maybe<BR>>>>>>>> <BR>>>>>>&=
gt;><BR> >>>>>>>& ;gt;>crashed=20
once or twice since I've had it, which is about 12=20
=
months<BR>>now.<BR> >>>>>>>& ;gt;> <BR>>>>=
;>>>>>>My=20
motherboard seems to have a quirk in the BIOS and I'm=20
=
currently<BR>>>>>>> <BR>>>>>>>running <=
BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>> <BR>>>>&g=
t;>>>>>on=20
the backup BIOS on the board, but she runs fine like that.=20
=
It<BR>>>>>>><BR >>>>>>>forgets<BR >>=
>>>>><BR>>>>>>> <BR>>>>>>&=
gt;>>>HDD's=20
on startup. Not sure why... (unless it's a quirk of the=20
=
F6<BR>>>>>>><BR >>>>>>>firmware,<BR >&g=
t;>>>>><BR>>>>>>> <BR>>>>>>=
;>>>>but=20
that seems=20
=
unlikely...)<BR> >>>>>>>& ;gt;> <BR>>>>>&=
gt;>>>>Apart=20
from that though it's great. I run only a two card=20
=
system<BR>though,<BR>>>>>>>> <BR>>>>>>=
>>and<BR>>>>>>>> <BR>>>>>>>&g=
t;<BR> >>>>>>>& ;gt;>only=20
dual head video (A Nvidia card currently) but have had no=20
=
issues<BR>>>>>>>> <BR> >>>>>>>apa=
rt<BR>>>>>>>> <BR>>>>>>>> <BR>>=
;>>>>>>>&am p;gt;from=20
the BIOS losing hdd's on startup which appears to be a MB=20
=
fault<BR>>>>>>><BR >>>>>>>(should<BR >&=
gt;>>>>><BR>>>>>>> <BR>>>>>&g=
t;>>>>take=20
it back before my warranty runs=20
=
out...).<BR> >>>>>>>& ;gt;> <BR>>>>>>&=
gt;>>>It's=20
quick though, and very stable. I'm happy with it.=20
=
:o)<BR> >>>>>>>& ;gt;> <BR>>>>>>>&g=
t;>>Cheers,<BR> >>>>>>>& ;gt;>Kim. <BR>>>=
>>>>>>><BR > >>>>>>>& ;gt;> "Kim =
W." <<A href=3D"mailto:no@way.com">no@way.com</A>>=20
=
wrote:<BR> >>>>>>>& ;gt;> <BR>>>>>>>=
;>>><BR> >>>>>>>& ;gt;> <BR>>>>>=
>>>>>>Forgot=20
to mention I am running four 19"=20
monitors,<BR> >>>>>>>& ;gt;>>using AGP/PCI =
Nvidia=20
Quadro cards.<BR> >>>>>>>& ;gt;>>This has =
worked well=20
with my old ASUS p4=20
=
system.<BR> >>>>>>>& ;gt;>>Cheers. <BR>>>>=
;>>>>>>><BR > >>>>>>>& ;gt;>>=
"Kim=20
W." <<A href=3D"mailto:no@way.com">no@way.com</A>>=20
=
wrote:<BR> >>>>>>>& ;gt;>> <BR>>>>>>=
;>>>>><BR> >>>>>>>& ;gt;>> <BR>>=
>>>>>>>& ;gt;>>Hi,=20
all.<BR> >>>>>>>& ;gt;>>>My Paris (win98) =
rig=20
refused to boot the other=20
day.<BR> >>>>>>>& ;gt;>>>I bought a =
Gigabyte K8NS=20
ultra 939 some months ago, with a=20
=
view<BR>>to<BR>>>>>>> <BR>>>>>>>upg=
rade<BR>>>>>>><BR >>>>>>><BR>>>&=
gt;>>>>>>>& amp;gt;at=20
some stage.<BR> >>>>>>>& ;gt;>>>It appears =
the time=20
is nigh!!<BR> >>>>>>>& ;gt;>>>I know many =
of you=20
have successfully migrated to XP, and the=20
K8NS<BR> >>>>>>>& ;gt;>>>is one of the fave =
mobos.<BR> >>>>>>>& ;gt;>>>(I also have an =
Epox=20
9NDA3, in case I get grief with the=20
Gigabyte.)<BR> >>>>>>>& ;gt;>>>Are there =
any=20
shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as=20
=
far<BR>>as<BR>>>>>>> <BR>>>>>>>whic=
h<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>> <BR>>>>=
>>>>>>>& ;gt;drivers,=20
service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't =
use,<BR>in<BR>>>>=20
<BR>>>> an<BR>>>>=20
=
<BR>>>>>>>attempt <BR>>>>>>><BR>>&g=
t;>>>><BR> >>>>>>>& ;gt;>>>to=20
preserve what's left of my=20
hair??<BR> >>>>>>>& ;gt;>>>I have four EDS =
cards,=20
two MECs, (only one adat card), and=20
=
four<BR>>>>>>><BR >>>>>>>C-16's.<BR >&g=
t;>>>>><BR>>>>>>> <BR>>>>>>=
;>>>>>>Or......=20
should I stick with 98 or=20
ME???<BR> >>>>>>>& ;gt;>>>I remember Kim =
having=20
teething problems with this=20
combo.<BR> >>>>>>>& ;gt;>>>Did it pan out =
for=20
=
you??<BR> >>>>>>>& ;gt;>>>Thanks, <BR>>>&=
gt;>>>>>>>& amp;gt;Kim=20
=
#2.<BR> >>>>>>>& ;gt;>>> <BR>>>>>&g=
t;>>>>>><BR> >>>>>>>& ;gt;>> <BR=
>>>>>>><BR> >>>>>>------------ --------=
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gt;><BR>>>>=20
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I remember with my ATI card that XP (pre SP-1) wouldn't even load. There
was a trick I used to get around it which I don't now recall, but if you
just loaded the OS it wouldn't work even without EDS cards in the system.
Cheers,
Kim.
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Kim,
>I had no luck with Matrox 550 sharing with EDS. They must be
>using different IRQs or the system is useless. I also couldn't
>get an ati card to work at all in XP with Paris but that was two years
>ago on an ASUS P4 mobo.
>Tom
>
>
> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message =
>news:44b1a758$1@linux...
>
>
> I understand the Matrox cards did have an issue with this. Brian =
>Tankersley
> and Deej, among others I think, have confimed this. I am running an =
>NVidia
> dual head and it seems fine sharing with an EDS, and Kim W's system so
=
>far
> seems happy with it also.
>
> It looks as if Deej is planning to, as the brave soldier he is, also =
>delve
> into experimenting on this MB with NVidia graphics cards and see what
=
>comes
> of it. It's looking like, at least on this MB with NVidia chipset and
=
>graphics
> cards, you can fairly much do as you please.
>
> I'm suspicious that it's just the Matrox cards which had the issue. =
>Also
> I had a bad time with an ATI card there for a while. NVidia cards are
=
>shaping
> up as the new way to go I think.
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.
>
>
> "Mike Audet" <mike@mikeF-SPAMaudet.com> wrote:
> >
> >Hi Guys,
> >
> >I just thought I'd throw my 2 cents in on this.
> >
> >I've never had a problem with an EDS card sharing with my AGP device
=
>or
> anything
> >else.
> >
> >Maybe I've been lucky. I don't know.
> >
> >Also, this is very theoretical, but my understanding is that PCI =
>cards don't
> >even use IRQs the way ISA cards used them. The BIOS assignment is =
>just for
> >legacy use. I suspect that Windows XP ignores them completely and =
>directly
> >uses the 4 interrupts (A, B, C, and D) that PCI cards can "really" =
>use.
>
> >The PCI spec requires interrupt sharing at the hardware level. An =
>IRQ number
> >assigned in the bios is just a pointer to one of these "real" =
>interrupts
> >in case old software goes looking for an ISA device.
> >
> >Or, I could be completely wrong, :)
> >
> >All the best,
> >
> >Mike
> >
> >John <no@no.com> wrote:
> >>Well, It appears that agp is sharing with 2 and 1 and 5 are NOT =
>sharing
> >
> >>IRQs. My mx800 asus mb manual is wrong. I wonder if this one is =
>wrong
> >
> >>too. Pretty weird.
> >>
> >>You should be able to assign irqs to the pci slots in the bios. The
=
>
> >>lower number the higher priority is my understanding. That's why I
=
>put
> >
> >>eds cards on 3. I also disable parallel port, serial, usb and =
>anything
> >
> >>else I'm not using. Sharing eds with anything seems a bad idea. My
=
>2
>
> >>eds are both on irq 3. Can you put 4 eds cards on the same irq or =
>is it
> >
> >>better for each to have it's own.
> >>
> >>Man, is there a motherboard with independent irqs on each slot =
>without
>
> >>this sharing shit !
> >>
> >>Horseshit I tell you.
> >>
> >>Kim W. wrote:
> >>> Hi, John.
> >>> I can't see the PCI slot numbers on the mobo, (or in the manual),
> >>> but here is what I have in the slots starting from the one next
> >>> to the AGP slot, and the IRQ assignments in the black boot-up=20
> >>> screen:
> >>>=20
> >>> 1: Nvidia Quadro PCI irq 11
> >>> 2: EDS irq 9
> >>> 3: EDS irq 7
> >>> 4: EDS irq 5
> >>> 5: EDS irq 10
> >>>=20
> >>> Onboard audio uses irq 12, Firewire controller uses irq 10,
> >>> ACPI controller uses irq 9.
> >>>=20
> >>> Is this enough info?
> >>>=20
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Kim.
> >>>=20
> >>> BTW why would my brand new 250 gb ata drive only have been =
>formatted
> for
> >>> 130gb during XP install? Only just noticed it.
> >>>=20
> >>>=20
> >>> John <no@no.com> wrote:
> >>>=20
> >>>>What slots are each card in. Also, their manual didn't mention =
>what
> agp
> >>>=20
> >>>=20
> >>>>uses for irq and whether it shares or not. Can't you tell on boot
=
>up
> >
> >>>>when that black resource screen shows what's on what?
> >>>>
> >>>>It would be good to know if you have 4 or 5 independent IRQs
> >>>>2,3,4,1/5,agp
> >>>>
> >>>>I run my 2 eds cards on the same IRQ 3 on my box.
> >>>>
> >>>>John
> >>>>
> >>>>Kim W. wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>Just returned from "The Dungeon", and am happy to report that
> >>>>>all appears to be working.
> >>>>>(4 EDS's, 2 Nvidia Qudras).=20
> >>>>>Thus far I have no DX/VST plugins installed.
> >>>>>(In the past this is where my installs have come unstuck.)
> >>>>>After initial disappointment with the dreaded Crash-on-
> >>>>>exit, I remembered about the "minimum install" effects subsystem
=
>fix,
> >>>=20
> >>> with
> >>>=20
> >>>>>wires.
> >>>>>Applying this seems to have cured the COE.=20
> >>>>>I'm pretty stoked at the moment, and have ghosted.
> >>>>>All slots are full, and there appears to be some sharing going =
>on,(I
> >attached
> >>>>>a screen grab)
> >>>>>but time will tell if it causes any problems. I just bunged all
> >>>>>four EDS's in, and let the system allocate resources as it=20
> >>>>>seemed fit.
> >>>>>I did, however, disable the SATA, and the parallel port in the =
>bios.
> >>>>>Time for bed, as it's been 12 hours since I deemed it "Beer =
>O'clock".
> >>>>>
> >>>>>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>It doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5, =
>unless
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>that's
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>just assumed...? I know often 1 shares with AGP.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Kim...........if PCI 1 and 5 "do not" share with the AGP, this =
>is
> >>>>>>potentially a HUGE deal and this would be the most flexible =
>(semi current)
> >>>>>>mobo in existence today for 939 CPU's. I cannot find any =
>reference
> to
> >>>=20
> >>> this
> >>>=20
> >>>>>>in the Gigabyte manual. When/if it is possible, could you insert
=
>a
> PCI
> >>>=20
> >>> card
> >>>=20
> >>>>>>in slot 1 or 5 (or both), then load the drivers for whatever =
>that device
> >>>>>
> >>>>>is,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>then go to your system info, look under system resources, =
>navigate
> to
> >>>>>>hardware resources>IRQ and let us know if the device(s) in PCI =
>slots
> >1
> >>>=20
> >>> or
> >>>=20
> >>>>>5
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>is/are sharing an IRQ with the AGP? If not, I'm gonna be =
>thinking hard
> >>>=20
> >>> about
> >>>=20
> >>>>>>switching mobo's on my Paris rig and trying to get that duallie
=
>CPU
> >>>>>>happening with my Paris rig. Theis could conceivably allow 5 x =
>EDS
> cards
> >>>>>
> >>>>>to
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>operate on a dual core Athlon. I would do this here, but I don't
=
>have
> >>>=20
> >>> all
> >>>=20
> >>>>>>the componentry that I need yet and the ergonomics of moving all
=
>of
> >my
> >>>=20
> >>> EDS
> >>>=20
> >>>>>>cards to a Magma chassis (which is already being used by another
=
>DAW)
> >>>=20
> >>> is
> >>>=20
> >>>>>>something that would take my entire studio down for a couple of
=
>days,
> >>>=20
> >>> and
> >>>=20
> >>>>>>I'm pretty busy right now.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Deej
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message =
>news:44afb30d$1@linux...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Mine doesn't show that it's sharing with AGP, though 1 does =
>share
> with
> >>>>>
> >>>>>5.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>It has a BIOS window you can go to which allows you to set =
>manually
> >which
> >>>>>>>interrupt each slot uses, and tells you what will be sharing =
>with
> it
> >>>=20
> >>> if
> >>>=20
> >>>>>>you
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>use that one. I have some things sharing, but everything is =
>working
> >fine
> >>>>>>>so I'm not concerned. Firewire shares with an EDS for example,
=
>but
> >I
> >>>=20
> >>> never
> >>>=20
> >>>>>>>use Paris and firewire together so that's not really a problem.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>It doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5, =
>unless
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>that's
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>just assumed...? I know often 1 shares with AGP.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Cheers,
> >>>>>>>Kim.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>John <no@no.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>lack of interrupt control is a deal breaker for me
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Kim wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>The biggest pitfall I found with the K8NS was that while the
=
>manual
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>states
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>you have pretty good interrupt control, they actually removed
=
>it
> >from
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>the
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>bios. The latest BIOS which gives you proper interrupt =
>control (unless
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>they've
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>added it back - haven't checked for months) is version F6, =
>which
> >I
> >>>>>
> >>>>>use.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>It's
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>quite old but I haven't had any issues. The thing never =
>crashes.
> >It's
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>maybe
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>crashed once or twice since I've had it, which is about 12 =
>months
> >now.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>My motherboard seems to have a quirk in the BIOS and I'm =
>currently
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>running
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>on the backup BIOS on the board, but she runs fine like that.
=
>It
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>forgets
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>HDD's on startup. Not sure why... (unless it's a quirk of the
=
>F6
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>firmware,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>but that seems unlikely...)
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>Apart from that though it's great. I run only a two card =
>system
> though,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>and
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>only dual head video (A Nvidia card currently) but have had =
>no issues
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>apart
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>from the BIOS losing hdd's on startup which appears to be a =
>MB fault
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>(should
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>take it back before my warranty runs out...).
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>It's quick though, and very stable. I'm happy with it. :o)
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>Cheers,
> >>>>>>>>>Kim.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
> >>>>>>>>>>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
> >>>>>>>>>>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
> >>>>>>>>>>Cheers.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>Hi, all.
> >>>>>>>>>>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
> >>>>>>>>>>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a
=
>view
> >to
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>upgrade
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>at some stage.
> >>>>>>>>>>>It appears the time is nigh!!
> >>>>>>>>>>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and =
>the K8NS
> >>>>>>>>>>>is one of the fave mobos.
> >>>>>>>>>>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the =
>Gigabyte.)
> >>>>>>>>>>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as
=
>far
> >as
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>which
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't =
>use,
> in
> >>>=20
> >>> an
> >>>=20
> >>>>>>attempt
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
> >>>>>>>>>>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and
=
>four
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>C-16's.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
> >>>>>>>>>>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
> >>>>>>>>>>>Did it pan out for you??
> >>>>>>>>>>>Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>>>>Kim #2.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> =
>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ -------=
>-----
> >>>>>>
> >>>=20
> >>>=20
> >
>
>
>
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><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Kim,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I had no luck with Matrox 550 sharing =
>with=20
>EDS. They must be</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>using different IRQs or the system is=20
>useless. I also couldn't</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>get an ati card to work at all in XP =
>with Paris but=20
>that was two years</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ago on an ASUS P4 mobo.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV> </DIV>
><BLOCKQUOTE=20
>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> <DIV>"Kim" <<A=20
> =
>href=3D"mailto:hiddensounds@hotmail.com">hiddensounds@hotmail.com</A>>=
> wrote=20
> in message <A=20
> =
>href=3D"news:44b1a758$1@linux">news:44b1a758$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR><BR>=
>I=20
> understand the Matrox cards did have an issue with this. Brian=20
> Tankersley<BR>and Deej, among others I think, have confimed this. I am
=
>running=20
> an NVidia<BR>dual head and it seems fine sharing with an EDS, and Kim
=
>W's=20
> system so far<BR>seems happy with it also.<BR><BR>It looks as if Deej
=
>is=20
> planning to, as the brave soldier he is, also delve<BR>into =
>experimenting on=20
> this MB with NVidia graphics cards and see what comes<BR>of it. It's =
>looking=20
> like, at least on this MB with NVidia chipset and graphics<BR>cards, =
>you can=20
> fairly much do as you please.<BR><BR>I'm suspicious that it's just the
=
>Matrox=20
> cards which had the issue. Also<BR>I had a bad time with an ATI card =
>there for=20
> a while. NVidia cards are shaping<BR>up as the new way to go I=20
> think.<BR><BR>Cheers,<BR>Kim.<BR><BR><BR>"Mike Audet" <<A=20
> =
>href=3D"mailto:mike@mikeF-SPAMaudet.com">mike@mikeF-SPAMaudet.com</A>>=
>=20
> wrote:<BR>><BR>>Hi Guys,<BR>><BR>>I just thought I'd throw =
>my 2=20
> cents in on this.<BR>><BR>>I've never had a problem with an EDS =
>card=20
> sharing with my AGP device =
>or<BR>anything<BR>>else.<BR>><BR>>Maybe=20
> I've been lucky. I don't know.<BR>><BR>>Also, this is very =
>
> theoretical, but my understanding is that PCI cards don't<BR>>even =
>use IRQs=20
> the way ISA cards used them. The BIOS assignment is just =
>for<BR>>legacy=20
> use. I suspect that Windows XP ignores them completely and=20
> directly<BR>>uses the 4 interrupts (A, B, C, and D) that PCI cards =
>can=20
> "really" use.<BR><BR>>The PCI spec requires interrupt sharing at =
>the=20
> hardware level. An IRQ number<BR>>assigned in the bios is =
>just a=20
> pointer to one of these "real" interrupts<BR>>in case old software =
>goes=20
> looking for an ISA device.<BR>><BR>>Or, I could be completely =
>wrong,=20
> :)<BR>><BR>>All the =
>best,<BR>><BR>>Mike<BR>><BR>>John <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:no@no.com">no@no.com</A>> wrote:<BR>>>Well, It =
>appears=20
> that agp is sharing with 2 and 1 and 5 are NOT=20
> sharing<BR>><BR>>>IRQs. My mx800 asus mb manual is =
>wrong. =20
> I wonder if this one is wrong<BR>><BR>>>too. Pretty=20
> weird.<BR>>><BR>>>You should be able to assign irqs to the =
>pci=20
> slots in the bios. The <BR>>>lower number the higher =
>priority is=20
> my understanding. That's why I put<BR>><BR>>>eds cards =
>on=20
> 3. I also disable parallel port, serial, usb and=20
> anything<BR>><BR>>>else I'm not using. Sharing eds with =
>
> anything seems a bad idea. My 2<BR><BR>>>eds are both on =
>irq=20
> 3. Can you put 4 eds cards on the same irq or is=20
> it<BR>><BR>>>better for each to have it's=20
> own.<BR>>><BR>>>Man, is there a motherboard with =
>independent irqs=20
> on each slot without<BR><BR>>>this sharing shit=20
> !<BR>>><BR>>>Horseshit I tell =
>you.<BR>>><BR>>>Kim W.=20
> wrote:<BR>>>> Hi, John.<BR>>>> I can't see the PCI =
>slot=20
> numbers on the mobo, (or in the manual),<BR>>>> but here is =
>what I=20
> have in the slots starting from the one next<BR>>>> to the =
>AGP slot,=20
> and the IRQ assignments in the black boot-up <BR>>>>=20
> screen:<BR>>>> <BR>>>> 1: Nvidia Quadro PCI irq=20
> 11<BR>>>> 2: EDS irq 9<BR>>>> 3: EDS irq =
>7<BR>>>>=20
> 4: EDS irq 5<BR>>>> 5: EDS irq 10<BR>>>> =
><BR>>>>=20
> Onboard audio uses irq 12, Firewire controller uses irq =
>10,<BR>>>>=20
> ACPI controller uses irq 9.<BR>>>> <BR>>>> Is this =
>enough=20
> info?<BR>>>> <BR>>>> Cheers,<BR>>>>=20
> Kim.<BR>>>> <BR>>>> BTW why would my brand new 250 =
>gb ata=20
> drive only have been formatted<BR>for<BR>>>> 130gb during XP =
>install?=20
> Only just noticed it.<BR>>>> <BR>>>> =
><BR>>>> John=20
> <<A href=3D"mailto:no@no.com">no@no.com</A>> =
>wrote:<BR>>>>=20
> <BR>>>>>What slots are each card in. Also, their =
>manual=20
> didn't mention what<BR>agp<BR>>>> <BR>>>>=20
> <BR>>>>>uses for irq and whether it shares or not. =
>Can't you=20
> tell on boot up<BR>><BR>>>>>when that black resource =
>screen=20
> shows what's on what?<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>It would =
>be good=20
> to know if you have 4 or 5 independent=20
> =
>IRQs<BR>>>>>2,3,4,1/5,agp<BR>>>>><BR>>>>=
>>I=20
> run my 2 eds cards on the same IRQ 3 on my=20
> =
>box.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>John<BR>>>>><BR>&=
>gt;>>>Kim=20
> W. wrote:<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>>Just returned =
>from "The=20
> Dungeon", and am happy to report that<BR>>>>>>all =
>appears to be=20
> working.<BR>>>>>>(4 EDS's, 2 Nvidia Qudras).=20
> <BR>>>>>>Thus far I have no DX/VST plugins=20
> installed.<BR>>>>>>(In the past this is where my =
>installs have=20
> come unstuck.)<BR>>>>>>After initial disappointment =
>with the=20
> dreaded Crash-on-<BR>>>>>>exit, I remembered about the =
>"minimum=20
> install" effects subsystem fix,<BR>>>> <BR>>>>=20
> with<BR>>>>=20
> <BR>>>>>>wires.<BR>>>>>>Applying this =
>seems to=20
> have cured the COE. <BR>>>>>>I'm pretty stoked at the =
>moment,=20
> and have ghosted.<BR>>>>>>All slots are full, and there =
>appears=20
> to be some sharing going =
>on,(I<BR>>attached<BR>>>>>>a screen=20
> grab)<BR>>>>>>but time will tell if it causes any =
>problems. I=20
> just bunged all<BR>>>>>>four EDS's in, and let the =
>system=20
> allocate resources as it <BR>>>>>>seemed=20
> fit.<BR>>>>>>I did, however, disable the SATA, and the =
>parallel=20
> port in the bios.<BR>>>>>>Time for bed, as it's been 12 =
>hours=20
> since I deemed it "Beer=20
> O'clock".<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>>"DJ" <<A=20
> =
>href=3D"mailto:animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net">animix_spam-this-ahole=
>_@animas.net</A>>=20
> =
>wrote:<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>=
>;>>>It=20
> doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5,=20
> =
>unless<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>that's<BR>&=
>gt;>>>>><BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>&g=
>t;>>just=20
> assumed...? I know often 1 shares with=20
> =
>AGP.<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>Kim..........=
>.if=20
> PCI 1 and 5 "do not" share with the AGP, this=20
> is<BR>>>>>>>potentially a HUGE deal and this would =
>be the=20
> most flexible (semi current)<BR>>>>>>>mobo in =
>existence=20
> today for 939 CPU's. I cannot find any reference<BR>to<BR>>>> =
>
> <BR>>>> this<BR>>>> <BR>>>>>>>in =
>the=20
> Gigabyte manual. When/if it is possible, could you insert=20
> a<BR>PCI<BR>>>> <BR>>>> card<BR>>>>=20
> <BR>>>>>>>in slot 1 or 5 (or both), then load the =
>drivers=20
> for whatever that=20
> =
>device<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>>is,<BR>>>>=
>>><BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>then=20
> go to your system info, look under system resources,=20
> navigate<BR>to<BR>>>>>>>hardware resources>IRQ =
>and let us=20
> know if the device(s) in PCI slots<BR>>1<BR>>>> =
><BR>>>>=20
> or<BR>>>>=20
> =
><BR>>>>>>5<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>>=
><BR>>>>>>>is/are=20
> sharing an IRQ with the AGP? If not, I'm gonna be thinking=20
> hard<BR>>>> <BR>>>> about<BR>>>>=20
> <BR>>>>>>>switching mobo's on my Paris rig and =
>trying to get=20
> that duallie CPU<BR>>>>>>>happening with my Paris =
>rig. Theis=20
> could conceivably allow 5 x=20
> =
>EDS<BR>cards<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>>to<BR>>>=
>;>>><BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>operate =
>
> on a dual core Athlon. I would do this here, but I don't =
>have<BR>>>>=20
> <BR>>>> all<BR>>>> <BR>>>>>>>the=20
> componentry that I need yet and the ergonomics of moving all=20
> of<BR>>my<BR>>>> <BR>>>> EDS<BR>>>>=20
> <BR>>>>>>>cards to a Magma chassis (which is already =
>being=20
> used by another DAW)<BR>>>> <BR>>>> =
>is<BR>>>>=20
> <BR>>>>>>>something that would take my entire studio =
>down=20
> for a couple of days,<BR>>>> <BR>>>> =
>and<BR>>>>=20
> <BR>>>>>>>I'm pretty busy right=20
> =
>now.<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>Deej<BR>>&=
>gt;>>>><BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>&g=
>t;<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>"Kim"=20
> <<A =
>href=3D"mailto:hiddensounds@hotmail.com">hiddensounds@hotmail.com</A>>=
>=20
> wrote in message <A=20
> =
>href=3D"news:44afb30d$1@linux">news:44afb30d$1@linux</A>...<BR>>>&g=
>t;>>><BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>=
>;Mine=20
> doesn't show that it's sharing with AGP, though 1 does=20
> =
>share<BR>with<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>>5.<BR>>&g=
>t;>>><BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>It =
>
> has a BIOS window you can go to which allows you to set=20
> manually<BR>>which<BR>>>>>>>>interrupt each =
>slot uses,=20
> and tells you what will be sharing with<BR>it<BR>>>> =
><BR>>>>=20
> if<BR>>>>=20
> =
><BR>>>>>>>you<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>&g=
>t;>>><BR>>>>>>>>use=20
> that one. I have some things sharing, but everything is=20
> working<BR>>fine<BR>>>>>>>>so I'm not =
>concerned.=20
> Firewire shares with an EDS for example, but<BR>>I<BR>>>>=20
> <BR>>>> never<BR>>>> =
><BR>>>>>>>>use=20
> Paris and firewire together so that's not really a=20
> =
>problem.<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>I=
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> doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5,=20
> =
>unless<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>that's<BR>&=
>gt;>>>>><BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>&g=
>t;>>just=20
> assumed...? I know often 1 shares with=20
> =
>AGP.<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>Cheer=
>s,<BR>>>>>>>>Kim.<BR>>>>>>>><BR=
>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>=
>>>>>>John=20
> <<A href=3D"mailto:no@no.com">no@no.com</A>>=20
> =
>wrote:<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>><BR=
>>>>>>>>>>lack=20
> of interrupt control is a deal breaker for=20
> =
>me<BR>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>=
>;Kim=20
> =
>wrote:<BR>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>=
>;><BR>>>>>>>>>>The=20
> biggest pitfall I found with the K8NS was that while the=20
> =
>manual<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>states<BR>&=
>gt;>>>>><BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>&g=
>t;>>>>you=20
> have pretty good interrupt control, they actually removed=20
> =
>it<BR>>from<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>=
>;>the<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>><=
>BR>>>>>>>>>>bios.=20
> The latest BIOS which gives you proper interrupt control=20
> =
>(unless<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>th=
>ey've<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>><BR>=
>>>>>>>>>>added=20
> it back - haven't checked for months) is version F6,=20
> =
>which<BR>>I<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>>use.<BR>>=
>;>>>><BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>=
>It's<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>><BR>&=
>gt;>>>>>>>>quite=20
> old but I haven't had any issues. The thing never=20
> =
>crashes.<BR>>It's<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>&=
>gt;>>maybe<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>&=
>gt;><BR>>>>>>>>>>crashed=20
> once or twice since I've had it, which is about 12=20
> =
>months<BR>>now.<BR>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>=
>;>>>>>>My=20
> motherboard seems to have a quirk in the BIOS and I'm=20
> =
>currently<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>running<=
>BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>&g=
>t;>>>>>on=20
> the backup BIOS on the board, but she runs fine like that.=20
> =
>It<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>forgets<BR>>=
>>>>>><BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>&=
>gt;>>>HDD's=20
> on startup. Not sure why... (unless it's a quirk of the=20
> =
>F6<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>firmware,<BR>&g=
>t;>>>>><BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>=
>;>>>>but=20
> that seems=20
> =
>unlikely...)<BR>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>&=
>gt;>>>>Apart=20
> from that though it's great. I run only a two card=20
> =
>system<BR>though,<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>=
>>>and<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>&g=
>t;<BR>>>>>>>>>>only=20
> dual head video (A Nvidia card currently) but have had no=20
> =
>issues<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>apa=
>rt<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>><BR>>=
>;>>>>>>>>from=20
> the BIOS losing hdd's on startup which appears to be a MB=20
> =
>fault<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>(should<BR>&=
>gt;>>>>><BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>&g=
>t;>>>>take=20
> it back before my warranty runs=20
> =
>out...).<BR>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>&=
>gt;>>>It's=20
> quick though, and very stable. I'm happy with it.=20
> =
>:o)<BR>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>&g=
>t;>>Cheers,<BR>>>>>>>>>>Kim.<BR>>>=
>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>"Kim =
>
> W." <<A href=3D"mailto:no@way.com">no@way.com</A>>=20
> =
>wrote:<BR>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>=
>;>>><BR>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>=
>>>>>>>Forgot=20
> to mention I am running four 19"=20
> monitors,<BR>>>>>>>>>>>using AGP/PCI =
>Nvidia=20
> Quadro cards.<BR>>>>>>>>>>>This has =
>worked well=20
> with my old ASUS p4=20
> =
>system.<BR>>>>>>>>>>>Cheers.<BR>>>>=
>;>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>>=
>"Kim=20
> W." <<A href=3D"mailto:no@way.com">no@way.com</A>>=20
> =
>wrote:<BR>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>=
>;>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>=
>>>>>>>>>>>Hi,=20
> all.<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>My Paris (win98) =
>rig=20
> refused to boot the other=20
> day.<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>I bought a =
>Gigabyte K8NS=20
> ultra 939 some months ago, with a=20
> =
>view<BR>>to<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>upg=
>rade<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>><BR>>>&=
>gt;>>>>>>>>at=20
> some stage.<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>It appears =
>the time=20
> is nigh!!<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>I know many =
>of you=20
> have successfully migrated to XP, and the=20
> K8NS<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>is one of the fave =
>
> mobos.<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>(I also have an =
>Epox=20
> 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the=20
> Gigabyte.)<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>Are there =
>any=20
> shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as=20
> =
>far<BR>>as<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>whic=
>h<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>=
>>>>>>>>>drivers,=20
> service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't =
>use,<BR>in<BR>>>>=20
> <BR>>>> an<BR>>>>=20
> =
><BR>>>>>>>attempt<BR>>>>>>><BR>>&g=
>t;>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>>>to=20
> preserve what's left of my=20
> hair??<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>I have four EDS =
>cards,=20
> two MECs, (only one adat card), and=20
> =
>four<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>C-16's.<BR>&g=
>t;>>>>><BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>=
>;>>>>>>Or......=20
> should I stick with 98 or=20
> ME???<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>I remember Kim =
>having=20
> teething problems with this=20
> combo.<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>Did it pan out =
>for=20
> =
>you??<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks,<BR>>>&=
>gt;>>>>>>>>Kim=20
> =
>#2.<BR>>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>&g=
>t;>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>><BR=
>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>--------------------=
>----------------------------------------------------<BR>>> >>&=
>gt;><BR>>>>=20
> <BR>>>> <BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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| Re: BTW: Paris XP, K8NS ultra939...any pitfalls??..(Kim?)..thanks! [message #70167 is a reply to message #70165] |
Sun, 09 July 2006 21:10 |
Deej [1]
Messages: 2149
Registered: January 2006
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That's really a bummer. There's a Colorgraphics Xentera (4 x displays) on
EBay, but it uses the ATI chipset. I've scoped Brian T"s posts about his
super computers on the Menudo forum and he's not using the Xentera either.
It's a shame such a cool graphics card turned out to be such a bust for
audio.
Deej
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:44b1c135$1@linux...
>
>
> I remember with my ATI card that XP (pre SP-1) wouldn't even load. There
> was a trick I used to get around it which I don't now recall, but if you
> just loaded the OS it wouldn't work even without EDS cards in the system.
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >Kim,
> >I had no luck with Matrox 550 sharing with EDS. They must be
> >using different IRQs or the system is useless. I also couldn't
> >get an ati card to work at all in XP with Paris but that was two years
> >ago on an ASUS P4 mobo.
> >Tom
> >
> >
> > "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message =
> >news:44b1a758$1@linux...
> >
> >
> > I understand the Matrox cards did have an issue with this. Brian =
> >Tankersley
> > and Deej, among others I think, have confimed this. I am running an =
> >NVidia
> > dual head and it seems fine sharing with an EDS, and Kim W's system so
> =
> >far
> > seems happy with it also.
> >
> > It looks as if Deej is planning to, as the brave soldier he is, also =
> >delve
> > into experimenting on this MB with NVidia graphics cards and see what
> =
> >comes
> > of it. It's looking like, at least on this MB with NVidia chipset and
> =
> >graphics
> > cards, you can fairly much do as you please.
> >
> > I'm suspicious that it's just the Matrox cards which had the issue. =
> >Also
> > I had a bad time with an ATI card there for a while. NVidia cards are
> =
> >shaping
> > up as the new way to go I think.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Kim.
> >
> >
> > "Mike Audet" <mike@mikeF-SPAMaudet.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >Hi Guys,
> > >
> > >I just thought I'd throw my 2 cents in on this.
> > >
> > >I've never had a problem with an EDS card sharing with my AGP device
> =
> >or
> > anything
> > >else.
> > >
> > >Maybe I've been lucky. I don't know.
> > >
> > >Also, this is very theoretical, but my understanding is that PCI =
> >cards don't
> > >even use IRQs the way ISA cards used them. The BIOS assignment is =
> >just for
> > >legacy use. I suspect that Windows XP ignores them completely and =
> >directly
> > >uses the 4 interrupts (A, B, C, and D) that PCI cards can "really" =
> >use.
> >
> > >The PCI spec requires interrupt sharing at the hardware level. An =
> >IRQ number
> > >assigned in the bios is just a pointer to one of these "real" =
> >interrupts
> > >in case old software goes looking for an ISA device.
> > >
> > >Or, I could be completely wrong, :)
> > >
> > >All the best,
> > >
> > >Mike
> > >
> > >John <no@no.com> wrote:
> > >>Well, It appears that agp is sharing with 2 and 1 and 5 are NOT =
> >sharing
> > >
> > >>IRQs. My mx800 asus mb manual is wrong. I wonder if this one is =
> >wrong
> > >
> > >>too. Pretty weird.
> > >>
> > >>You should be able to assign irqs to the pci slots in the bios. The
> =
> >
> > >>lower number the higher priority is my understanding. That's why I
> =
> >put
> > >
> > >>eds cards on 3. I also disable parallel port, serial, usb and =
> >anything
> > >
> > >>else I'm not using. Sharing eds with anything seems a bad idea. My
> =
> >2
> >
> > >>eds are both on irq 3. Can you put 4 eds cards on the same irq or =
> >is it
> > >
> > >>better for each to have it's own.
> > >>
> > >>Man, is there a motherboard with independent irqs on each slot =
> >without
> >
> > >>this sharing shit !
> > >>
> > >>Horseshit I tell you.
> > >>
> > >>Kim W. wrote:
> > >>> Hi, John.
> > >>> I can't see the PCI slot numbers on the mobo, (or in the manual),
> > >>> but here is what I have in the slots starting from the one next
> > >>> to the AGP slot, and the IRQ assignments in the black boot-up=20
> > >>> screen:
> > >>>=20
> > >>> 1: Nvidia Quadro PCI irq 11
> > >>> 2: EDS irq 9
> > >>> 3: EDS irq 7
> > >>> 4: EDS irq 5
> > >>> 5: EDS irq 10
> > >>>=20
> > >>> Onboard audio uses irq 12, Firewire controller uses irq 10,
> > >>> ACPI controller uses irq 9.
> > >>>=20
> > >>> Is this enough info?
> > >>>=20
> > >>> Cheers,
> > >>> Kim.
> > >>>=20
> > >>> BTW why would my brand new 250 gb ata drive only have been =
> >formatted
> > for
> > >>> 130gb during XP install? Only just noticed it.
> > >>>=20
> > >>>=20
> > >>> John <no@no.com> wrote:
> > >>>=20
> > >>>>What slots are each card in. Also, their manual didn't mention =
> >what
> > agp
> > >>>=20
> > >>>=20
> > >>>>uses for irq and whether it shares or not. Can't you tell on boot
> =
> >up
> > >
> > >>>>when that black resource screen shows what's on what?
> > >>>>
> > >>>>It would be good to know if you have 4 or 5 independent IRQs
> > >>>>2,3,4,1/5,agp
> > >>>>
> > >>>>I run my 2 eds cards on the same IRQ 3 on my box.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>John
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Kim W. wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>Just returned from "The Dungeon", and am happy to report that
> > >>>>>all appears to be working.
> > >>>>>(4 EDS's, 2 Nvidia Qudras).=20
> > >>>>>Thus far I have no DX/VST plugins installed.
> > >>>>>(In the past this is where my installs have come unstuck.)
> > >>>>>After initial disappointment with the dreaded Crash-on-
> > >>>>>exit, I remembered about the "minimum install" effects subsystem
> =
> >fix,
> > >>>=20
> > >>> with
> > >>>=20
> > >>>>>wires.
> > >>>>>Applying this seems to have cured the COE.=20
> > >>>>>I'm pretty stoked at the moment, and have ghosted.
> > >>>>>All slots are full, and there appears to be some sharing going =
> >on,(I
> > >attached
> > >>>>>a screen grab)
> > >>>>>but time will tell if it causes any problems. I just bunged all
> > >>>>>four EDS's in, and let the system allocate resources as it=20
> > >>>>>seemed fit.
> > >>>>>I did, however, disable the SATA, and the parallel port in the =
> >bios.
> > >>>>>Time for bed, as it's been 12 hours since I deemed it "Beer =
> >O'clock".
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>>It doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5, =
> >unless
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>that's
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>just assumed...? I know often 1 shares with AGP.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>Kim...........if PCI 1 and 5 "do not" share with the AGP, this =
> >is
> > >>>>>>potentially a HUGE deal and this would be the most flexible =
> >(semi current)
> > >>>>>>mobo in existence today for 939 CPU's. I cannot find any =
> >reference
> > to
> > >>>=20
> > >>> this
> > >>>=20
> > >>>>>>in the Gigabyte manual. When/if it is possible, could you insert
> =
> >a
> > PCI
> > >>>=20
> > >>> card
> > >>>=20
> > >>>>>>in slot 1 or 5 (or both), then load the drivers for whatever =
> >that device
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>is,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>then go to your system info, look under system resources, =
> >navigate
> > to
> > >>>>>>hardware resources>IRQ and let us know if the device(s) in PCI =
> >slots
> > >1
> > >>>=20
> > >>> or
> > >>>=20
> > >>>>>5
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>is/are sharing an IRQ with the AGP? If not, I'm gonna be =
> >thinking hard
> > >>>=20
> > >>> about
> > >>>=20
> > >>>>>>switching mobo's on my Paris rig and trying to get that duallie
> =
> >CPU
> > >>>>>>happening with my Paris rig. Theis could conceivably allow 5 x =
> >EDS
> > cards
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>to
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>operate on a dual core Athlon. I would do this here, but I don't
> =
> >have
> > >>>=20
> > >>> all
> > >>>=20
> > >>>>>>the componentry that I need yet and the ergonomics of moving all
> =
> >of
> > >my
> > >>>=20
> > >>> EDS
> > >>>=20
> > >>>>>>cards to a Magma chassis (which is already being used by another
> =
> >DAW)
> > >>>=20
> > >>> is
> > >>>=20
> > >>>>>>something that would take my entire studio down for a couple of
> =
> >days,
> > >>>=20
> > >>> and
> > >>>=20
> > >>>>>>I'm pretty busy right now.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>Deej
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message =
> >news:44afb30d$1@linux...
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>Mine doesn't show that it's sharing with AGP, though 1 does =
> >share
> > with
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>5.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>>It has a BIOS window you can go to which allows you to set =
> >manually
> > >which
> > >>>>>>>interrupt each slot uses, and tells you what will be sharing =
> >with
> > it
> > >>>=20
> > >>> if
> > >>>=20
> > >>>>>>you
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>use that one. I have some things sharing, but everything is =
> >working
> > >fine
> > >>>>>>>so I'm not concerned. Firewire shares with an EDS for example,
> =
> >but
> > >I
> > >>>=20
> > >>> never
> > >>>=20
> > >>>>>>>use Paris and firewire together so that's not really a problem.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>It doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5, =
> >unless
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>that's
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>just assumed...? I know often 1 shares with AGP.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>Cheers,
> > >>>>>>>Kim.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>John <no@no.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>lack of interrupt control is a deal breaker for me
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>Kim wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>The biggest pitfall I found with the K8NS was that while the
> =
> >manual
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>states
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>you have pretty good interrupt control, they actually removed
> =
> >it
> > >from
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>the
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>bios. The latest BIOS which gives you proper interrupt =
> >control (unless
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>they've
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>added it back - haven't checked for months) is version F6, =
> >which
> > >I
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>use.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>>It's
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>quite old but I haven't had any issues. The thing never =
> >crashes.
> > >It's
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>maybe
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>crashed once or twice since I've had it, which is about 12 =
> >months
> > >now.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>My motherboard seems to have a quirk in the BIOS and I'm =
> >currently
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>running
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>on the backup BIOS on the board, but she runs fine like that.
> =
> >It
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>forgets
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>HDD's on startup. Not sure why... (unless it's a quirk of the
> =
> >F6
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>firmware,
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>but that seems unlikely...)
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>Apart from that though it's great. I run only a two card =
> >system
> > though,
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>and
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>only dual head video (A Nvidia card currently) but have had =
> >no issues
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>apart
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>from the BIOS losing hdd's on startup which appears to be a =
> >MB fault
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>(should
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>take it back before my warranty runs out...).
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>It's quick though, and very stable. I'm happy with it. :o)
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>Cheers,
> > >>>>>>>>>Kim.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
> > >>>>>>>>>>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
> > >>>>>>>>>>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
> > >>>>>>>>>>Cheers.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>Hi, all.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a
> =
> >view
> > >to
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>upgrade
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>at some stage.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>It appears the time is nigh!!
> > >>>>>>>>>>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and =
> >the K8NS
> > >>>>>>>>>>>is one of the fave mobos.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the =
> >Gigabyte.)
> > >>>>>>>>>>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as
> =
> >far
> > >as
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>which
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't =
> >use,
> > in
> > >>>=20
> > >>> an
> > >>>=20
> > >>>>>>attempt
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
> > >>>>>>>>>>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and
> =
> >four
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>C-16's.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
> > >>>>>>>>>>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>Did it pan out for you??
> > >>>>>>>>>>>Thanks,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>Kim #2.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > =
>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ -------=
> >-----
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>=20
> > >>>=20
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
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> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Kim,</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I had no luck with Matrox 550 sharing =
> >with=20
> >EDS. They must be</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>using different IRQs or the system is=20
> >useless. I also couldn't</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>get an ati card to work at all in XP =
> >with Paris but=20
> >that was two years</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ago on an ASUS P4 mobo.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV> </DIV>
> ><BLOCKQUOTE=20
> >style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > <DIV>"Kim" <<A=20
> > =
> >href=3D"mailto:hiddensounds@hotmail.com">hiddensounds@hotmail.com</A>>=
> > wrote=20
> > in message <A=20
> > =
>
>href=3D"news:44b1a758$1@linux">news:44b1a758$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR><BR>=
> >I=20
> > understand the Matrox cards did have an issue with this. Brian=20
> > Tankersley<BR>and Deej, among others I think, have confimed this. I am
> =
> >running=20
> > an NVidia<BR>dual head and it seems fine sharing with an EDS, and Kim
> =
> >W's=20
> > system so far<BR>seems happy with it also.<BR><BR>It looks as if Deej
> =
> >is=20
> > planning to, as the brave soldier he is, also delve<BR>into =
> >experimenting on=20
> > this MB with NVidia graphics cards and see what comes<BR>of it. It's =
> >looking=20
> > like, at least on this MB with NVidia chipset and graphics<BR>cards, =
> >you can=20
> > fairly much do as you please.<BR><BR>I'm suspicious that it's just the
> =
> >Matrox=20
> > cards which had the issue. Also<BR>I had a bad time with an ATI card =
> >there for=20
> > a while. NVidia cards are shaping<BR>up as the new way to go I=20
> > think.<BR><BR>Cheers,<BR>Kim.<BR><BR><BR>"Mike Audet" <<A=20
> > =
> >href=3D"mailto:mike@mikeF-SPAMaudet.com">mike@mikeF-SPAMaudet.com</A>>=
> >=20
> > wrote:<BR>><BR>>Hi Guys,<BR>><BR>>I just thought I'd throw =
> >my 2=20
> > cents in on this.<BR>><BR>>I've never had a problem with an EDS =
> >card=20
> > sharing with my AGP device =
> >or<BR>anything<BR>>else.<BR>><BR>>Maybe=20
> > I've been lucky. I don't know.<BR>><BR>>Also, this is very =
> >
> > theoretical, but my understanding is that PCI cards don't<BR>>even =
> >use IRQs=20
> > the way ISA cards used them. The BIOS assignment is just =
> >for<BR>>legacy=20
> > use. I suspect that Windows XP ignores them completely and=20
> > directly<BR>>uses the 4 interrupts (A, B, C, and D) that PCI cards =
> >can=20
> > "really" use.<BR><BR>>The PCI spec requires interrupt sharing at =
> >the=20
> > hardware level. An IRQ number<BR>>assigned in the bios is =
> >just a=20
> > pointer to one of these "real" interrupts<BR>>in case old software =
> >goes=20
> > looking for an ISA device.<BR>><BR>>Or, I could be completely =
> >wrong,=20
> > :)<BR>><BR>>All the =
> >best,<BR>><BR>>Mike<BR>><BR>>John <<A=20
> > href=3D"mailto:no@no.com">no@no.com</A>> wrote:<BR>>>Well, It =
> >appears=20
> > that agp is sharing with 2 and 1 and 5 are NOT=20
> > sharing<BR>><BR>>>IRQs. My mx800 asus mb manual is =
> >wrong. =20
> > I wonder if this one is wrong<BR>><BR>>>too. Pretty=20
> > weird.<BR>>><BR>>>You should be able to assign irqs to the =
> >pci=20
> > slots in the bios. The <BR>>>lower number the higher =
> >priority is=20
> > my understanding. That's why I put<BR>><BR>>>eds cards =
> >on=20
> > 3. I also disable parallel port, serial, usb and=20
> > anything<BR>><BR>>>else I'm not using. Sharing eds with =
> >
> > anything seems a bad idea. My 2<BR><BR>>>eds are both on =
> >irq=20
> > 3. Can you put 4 eds cards on the same irq or is=20
> > it<BR>><BR>>>better for each to have it's=20
> > own.<BR>>><BR>>>Man, is there a motherboard with =
> >independent irqs=20
> > on each slot without<BR><BR>>>this sharing shit=20
> > !<BR>>><BR>>>Horseshit I tell =
> >you.<BR>>><BR>>>Kim W.=20
> > wrote:<BR>>>> Hi, John.<BR>>>> I can't see the PCI =
> >slot=20
> > numbers on the mobo, (or in the manual),<BR>>>> but here is =
> >what I=20
> > have in the slots starting from the one next<BR>>>> to the =
> >AGP slot,=20
> > and the IRQ assignments in the black boot-up <BR>>>>=20
> > screen:<BR>>>> <BR>>>> 1: Nvidia Quadro PCI irq=20
> > 11<BR>>>> 2: EDS irq 9<BR>>>> 3: EDS irq =
> >7<BR>>>>=20
> > 4: EDS irq 5<BR>>>> 5: EDS irq 10<BR>>>> =
> ><BR>>>>=20
> > Onboard audio uses irq 12, Firewire controller uses irq =
> >10,<BR>>>>=20
> > ACPI controller uses irq 9.<BR>>>> <BR>>>> Is this =
> >enough=20
> > info?<BR>>>> <BR>>>> Cheers,<BR>>>>=20
> > Kim.<BR>>>> <BR>>>> BTW why would my brand new 250 =
> >gb ata=20
> > drive only have been formatted<BR>for<BR>>>> 130gb during XP =
> >install?=20
> > Only just noticed it.<BR>>>> <BR>>>> =
> ><BR>>>> John=20
> > <<A href=3D"mailto:no@no.com">no@no.com</A>> =
> >wrote:<BR>>>>=20
> > <BR>>>>>What slots are each card in. Also, their =
> >manual=20
> > didn't mention what<BR>agp<BR>>>> <BR>>>>=20
> > <BR>>>>>uses for irq and whether it shares or not. =
> >Can't you=20
> > tell on boot up<BR>><BR>>>>>when that black resource =
> >screen=20
> > shows what's on what?<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>It would =
> >be good=20
> > to know if you have 4 or 5 independent=20
> > =
> >IRQs<BR>>>>>2,3,4,1/5,agp<BR>>>>><BR>>>>=
> >>I=20
> > run my 2 eds cards on the same IRQ 3 on my=20
> > =
> >box.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>John<BR>>>>><BR>&=
> >gt;>>>Kim=20
> > W. wrote:<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>>Just returned =
> >from "The=20
> > Dungeon", and am happy to report that<BR>>>>>>all =
> >appears to be=20
> > working.<BR>>>>>>(4 EDS's, 2 Nvidia Qudras).=20
> > <BR>>>>>>Thus far I have no DX/VST plugins=20
> > installed.<BR>>>>>>(In the past this is where my =
> >installs have=20
> > come unstuck.)<BR>>>>>>After initial disappointment =
> >with the=20
> > dreaded Crash-on-<BR>>>>>>exit, I remembered about the =
> >"minimum=20
> > install" effects subsystem fix,<BR>>>> <BR>>>>=20
> > with<BR>>>>=20
> > <BR>>>>>>wires.<BR>>>>>>Applying this =
> >seems to=20
> > have cured the COE. <BR>>>>>>I'm pretty stoked at the =
> >moment,=20
> > and have ghosted.<BR>>>>>>All slots are full, and there =
> >appears=20
> > to be some sharing going =
> >on,(I<BR>>attached<BR>>>>>>a screen=20
> > grab)<BR>>>>>>but time will tell if it causes any =
> >problems. I=20
> > just bunged all<BR>>>>>>four EDS's in, and let the =
> >system=20
> > allocate resources as it <BR>>>>>>seemed=20
> > fit.<BR>>>>>>I did, however, disable the SATA, and the =
> >parallel=20
> > port in the bios.<BR>>>>>>Time for bed, as it's been 12 =
> >hours=20
> > since I deemed it "Beer=20
> > O'clock".<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>>"DJ" <<A=20
> > =
>
>href=3D"mailto:animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net">animix_spam-this-ahole=
> >_@animas.net</A>>=20
> > =
> >wrote:<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>=
> >;>>>It=20
> > doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5,=20
> > =
> >unless<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>that's<BR>&=
> >gt;>>>>><BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>&g=
> >t;>>just=20
> > assumed...? I know often 1 shares with=20
> > =
> >AGP.<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>Kim..........=
> >.if=20
> > PCI 1 and 5 "do not" share with the AGP, this=20
> > is<BR>>>>>>>potentially a HUGE deal and this would =
> >be the=20
> > most flexible (semi current)<BR>>>>>>>mobo in =
> >existence=20
> > today for 939 CPU's. I cannot find any reference<BR>to<BR>>>> =
> >
> > <BR>>>> this<BR>>>> <BR>>>>>>>in =
> >the=20
> > Gigabyte manual. When/if it is possible, could you insert=20
> > a<BR>PCI<BR>>>> <BR>>>> card<BR>>>>=20
> > <BR>>>>>>>in slot 1 or 5 (or both), then load the =
> >drivers=20
> > for whatever that=20
> > =
> >device<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>>is,<BR>>>>=
> >>><BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>then=20
> > go to your system info, look under system resources,=20
> > navigate<BR>to<BR>>>>>>>hardware resources>IRQ =
> >and let us=20
> > know if the device(s) in PCI slots<BR>>1<BR>>>> =
> ><BR>>>>=20
> > or<BR>>>>=20
> > =
> ><BR>>>>>>5<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>>=
> ><BR>>>>>>>is/are=20
> > sharing an IRQ with the AGP? If not, I'm gonna be thinking=20
> > hard<BR>>>> <BR>>>> about<BR>>>>=20
> > <BR>>>>>>>switching mobo's on my Paris rig and =
> >trying to get=20
> > that duallie CPU<BR>>>>>>>happening with my Paris =
> >rig. Theis=20
> > could conceivably allow 5 x=20
> > =
> >EDS<BR>cards<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>>to<BR>>>=
> >;>>><BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>operate =
> >
> > on a dual core Athlon. I would do this here, but I don't =
> >have<BR>>>>=20
> > <BR>>>> all<BR>>>> <BR>>>>>>>the=20
> > componentry that I need yet and the ergonomics of moving all=20
> > of<BR>>my<BR>>>> <BR>>>> EDS<BR>>>>=20
> > <BR>>>>>>>cards to a Magma chassis (which is already =
> >being=20
> > used by another DAW)<BR>>>> <BR>>>> =
> >is<BR>>>>=20
> > <BR>>>>>>>something that would take my entire studio =
> >down=20
> > for a couple of days,<BR>>>> <BR>>>> =
> >and<BR>>>>=20
> > <BR>>>>>>>I'm pretty busy right=20
> > =
> >now.<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>Deej<BR>>&=
> >gt;>>>><BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>&g=
> >t;<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>"Kim"=20
> > <<A =
> >href=3D"mailto:hiddensounds@hotmail.com">hiddensounds@hotmail.com</A>>=
> >=20
> > wrote in message <A=20
> > =
> >href=3D"news:44afb30d$1@linux">news:44afb30d$1@linux</A>...<BR>>>&g=
> >t;>>><BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>=
> >;Mine=20
> > doesn't show that it's sharing with AGP, though 1 does=20
> > =
> >share<BR>with<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>>5.<BR>>&g=
> >t;>>><BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>It =
> >
> > has a BIOS window you can go to which allows you to set=20
> > manually<BR>>which<BR>>>>>>>>interrupt each =
> >slot uses,=20
> > and tells you what will be sharing with<BR>it<BR>>>> =
> ><BR>>>>=20
> > if<BR>>>>=20
> > =
> ><BR>>>>>>>you<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>&g=
> >t;>>><BR>>>>>>>>use=20
> > that one. I have some things sharing, but everything is=20
> > working<BR>>fine<BR>>>>>>>>so I'm not =
> >concerned.=20
> > Firewire shares with an EDS for example, but<BR>>I<BR>>>>=20
> > <BR>>>> never<BR>>>> =
> ><BR>>>>>>>>use=20
> > Paris and firewire together so that's not really a=20
> > =
> >problem.<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>I=
> >t=20
> > doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5,=20
> > =
> >unless<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>that's<BR>&=
> >gt;>>>>><BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>&g=
> >t;>>just=20
> > assumed...? I know often 1 shares with=20
> > =
> >AGP.<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>Cheer=
> >s,<BR>>>>>>>>Kim.<BR>>>>>>>><BR=
> >>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>=
> >>>>>>John=20
> > <<A href=3D"mailto:no@no.com">no@no.com</A>>=20
> > =
> >wrote:<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>><BR=
> >>>>>>>>>>lack=20
> > of interrupt control is a deal breaker for=20
> > =
> >me<BR>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>=
> >;Kim=20
> > =
> >wrote:<BR>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>=
> >;><BR>>>>>>>>>>The=20
> > biggest pitfall I found with the K8NS was that while the=20
> > =
> >manual<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>states<BR>&=
> >gt;>>>>><BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>&g=
> >t;>>>>you=20
> > have pretty good interrupt control, they actually removed=20
> > =
> >it<BR>>from<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>=
> >;>the<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>><=
> >BR>>>>>>>>>>bios.=20
> > The latest BIOS which gives you proper interrupt control=20
> > =
> >(unless<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>th=
> >ey've<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>><BR>=
> >>>>>>>>>>added=20
> > it back - haven't checked for months) is version F6,=20
> > =
> >which<BR>>I<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>>use.<BR>>=
> >;>>>><BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>=
> >It's<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>><BR>&=
> >gt;>>>>>>>>quite=20
> > old but I haven't had any issues. The thing never=20
> > =
> >crashes.<BR>>It's<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>&=
> >gt;>>maybe<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>&=
> >gt;><BR>>>>>>>>>>crashed=20
> > once or twice since I've had it, which is about 12=20
> > =
> >months<BR>>now.<BR>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>=
> >;>>>>>>My=20
> > motherboard seems to have a quirk in the BIOS and I'm=20
> > =
> >currently<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>running<=
> >BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>&g=
> >t;>>>>>on=20
> > the backup BIOS on the board, but she runs fine like that.=20
> > =
> >It<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>forgets<BR>>=
> >>>>>><BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>&=
> >gt;>>>HDD's=20
> > on startup. Not sure why... (unless it's a quirk of the=20
> > =
> >F6<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>firmware,<BR>&g=
> >t;>>>>><BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>=
> >;>>>>but=20
> > that seems=20
> > =
> >unlikely...)<BR>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>&=
> >gt;>>>>Apart=20
> > from that though it's great. I run only a two card=20
> > =
> >system<BR>though,<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>=
> >>>and<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>&g=
> >t;<BR>>>>>>>>>>only=20
> > dual head video (A Nvidia card currently) but have had no=20
> > =
> >issues<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>apa=
> >rt<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>><BR>>=
> >;>>>>>>>>from=20
> > the BIOS losing hdd's on startup which appears to be a MB=20
> > =
> >fault<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>(should<BR>&=
> >gt;>>>>><BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>&g=
> >t;>>>>take=20
> > it back before my warranty runs=20
> > =
> >out...).<BR>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>&=
> >gt;>>>It's=20
> > quick though, and very stable. I'm happy with it.=20
> > =
> >:o)<BR>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>&g=
> >t;>>Cheers,<BR>>>>>>>>>>Kim.<BR>>>=
> >>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>"Kim =
> >
> > W." <<A href=3D"mailto:no@way.com">no@way.com</A>>=20
> > =
> >wrote:<BR>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>=
> >;>>><BR>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>=
> >>>>>>>Forgot=20
> > to mention I am running four 19"=20
> > monitors,<BR>>>>>>>>>>>using AGP/PCI =
> >Nvidia=20
> > Quadro cards.<BR>>>>>>>>>>>This has =
> >worked well=20
> > with my old ASUS p4=20
> > =
> >system.<BR>>>>>>>>>>>Cheers.<BR>>>>=
> >;>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>>=
> >"Kim=20
> > W." <<A href=3D"mailto:no@way.com">no@way.com</A>>=20
> > =
> >wrote:<BR>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>=
> >;>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>=
> >>>>>>>>>>>Hi,=20
> > all.<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>My Paris (win98) =
> >rig=20
> > refused to boot the other=20
> > day.<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>I bought a =
> >Gigabyte K8NS=20
> > ultra 939 some months ago, with a=20
> > =
> >view<BR>>to<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>upg=
> >rade<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>><BR>>>&=
> >gt;>>>>>>>>at=20
> > some stage.<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>It appears =
> >the time=20
> > is nigh!!<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>I know many =
> >of you=20
> > have successfully migrated to XP, and the=20
> > K8NS<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>is one of the fave =
> >
> > mobos.<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>(I also have an =
> >Epox=20
> > 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the=20
> > Gigabyte.)<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>Are there =
> >any=20
> > shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as=20
> > =
> >far<BR>>as<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>whic=
> >h<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>=
> >>>>>>>>>drivers,=20
> > service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't =
> >use,<BR>in<BR>>>>=20
> > <BR>>>> an<BR>>>>=20
> > =
> ><BR>>>>>>>attempt<BR>>>>>>><BR>>&g=
> >t;>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>>>to=20
> > preserve what's left of my=20
> > hair??<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>I have four EDS =
> >cards,=20
> > two MECs, (only one adat card), and=20
> > =
> >four<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>C-16's.<BR>&g=
> >t;>>>>><BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>=
> >;>>>>>>Or......=20
> > should I stick with 98 or=20
> > ME???<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>I remember Kim =
> >having=20
> > teething problems with this=20
> > combo.<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>Did it pan out =
> >for=20
> > =
> >you??<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks,<BR>>>&=
> >gt;>>>>>>>>Kim=20
> > =
> >#2.<BR>>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>&g=
> >t;>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>><BR=
> >>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>--------------------=
> >----------------------------------------------------<BR>>> >>&=
> >gt;><BR>>>>=20
> > <BR>>>> <BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
> ><DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, =
> >and=20
> >you?<BR><A=20
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| Re: BTW: Paris XP, K8NS ultra939...any pitfalls??..IT SEEMS NOT! (yet..) [message #70254 is a reply to message #70132] |
Wed, 12 July 2006 04:21 |
Kim W
Messages: 165
Registered: July 2006
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Well, after my first tracking session with the new comp, I am
(extremely) happy to report Paris XP is finally working for me.
It feels smoother, quicker, and more robust than ever before.
I did nothing as far as irq assigning, tweaks etc.
(I did disable the SATA,.. as I still use PATA, and also the parallel port.)
I'm running in APIC mode, (not standard PC),
I even bunged all four EDS's in at once, and let windows assign
resources as it seemed fit.
It's NEVER been this easy with any other comp. (I've been running
Paris pretty much since it was released...
starting with a 686 200 cyrix).
The IRQ sharing seems to have no negative effects, and both
dual-head Nvidia Quadras are happy.
To those thinking of upgrading their Paris boxes, grab one of
these mobos while/if you can, and XP3500+'s are cheap as chips
now.
Rave over :-))))
Kim W.
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>Good to hear. Keep us updated. :o)
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.
>
>
>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>YEEHAH!!
>>This is ROCKIN!
>>After upping the cache sizes, I have a 64 track project playing
>>beautifully.
>>Everything feels snappy!
>>I can drag windows anywhare whilst playing without a hiccup!
>>(Couldn't do that with the '98 box.
>>I resized the drive using Acronis.
>>All looking good so far.
>>Now for the plugins....
>>Kim
>>
>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>Did you format the drive using WinXP pre-SP1? I beleive that the installer
>>>for WinXP original version has an upper limit on hdd size... I ran into
>>>this with my 2 x 250Gigs...
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Kim.
>>>
>>>
>>>"Kim W." <no@way> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>From the looks of your System Devices info vs what you posted there,
>you're
>>>>Hi again, Kim.
>>>>Just about to start fiddling again.
>>>>Gotta get my lost 120gb back. Would rather not reformat.
>>>>Also I need to arrange the drives so that my removeable (caddy)
>>>>drive becomes "E" again. Don't really want to reset filepaths
>>>>for all projects.
>>>>Will keep you posted.
>>>>Kim
>>>>
>>>>running in the default "ACPI Uniprocessor PC" mode, not standard PC mode.
>>>>>From my testing and talks with DJ this means that, unfortunately, the
>>PCI
>>>>>configuration stuff in the BIOS doesn't actually function, which is
>>>>
>>>>why you'll
>>>>>find discrpencies between what you have configured in the BIOS (Which
>>I
>>>>assume
>>>>>is what you just listed) vs what you see in Windows.
>>>>>
>>>>>HOWEVER...
>>>>>
>>>>>I suggest you just keep going. It is possible to switch to Standard
PC
>>>mode
>>>>>without a reinstall, though I have heard it can cause issues (never
has
>>>>for
>>>>>me though). Deej and I are interested to see if you can run your NVidia
>>>>cards
>>>>>sharing with the EDS cards on IRQs, as I suspect it will actually work
>>>(it's
>>>>>working for me here fine).
>>>>>
>>>>>Slot 1 is usually next to the AGP. If you go into the system device
manager
>>>>>IRQ screen and double click an item it tells you what slot things are
>>in,
>>>>>so this may help you confirm.
>>>>>
>>>>>On my system slot 4 on the MB seems to share with AGP, though that might
>>>>>be because that's how Windows decided to do it, not because they are
>hardwired...
>>>>> that's still up in the air.
>>>>>
>>>>>How's it going anyhow? Got it running? Is it stable?
>>>>>
>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>
>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi, John.
>>>>>>I can't see the PCI slot numbers on the mobo, (or in the manual),
>>>>>>but here is what I have in the slots starting from the one next
>>>>>>to the AGP slot, and the IRQ assignments in the black boot-up
>>>>>>screen:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>1: Nvidia Quadro PCI irq 11
>>>>>>2: EDS irq 9
>>>>>>3: EDS irq 7
>>>>>>4: EDS irq 5
>>>>>>5: EDS irq 10
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Onboard audio uses irq 12, Firewire controller uses irq 10,
>>>>>>ACPI controller uses irq 9.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Is this enough info?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>BTW why would my brand new 250 gb ata drive only have been formatted
>>for
>>>>>>130gb during XP install? Only just noticed it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>What slots are each card in. Also, their manual didn't mention what
>>>agp
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>uses for irq and whether it shares or not. Can't you tell on boot
>up
>>>>
>>>>>>>when that black resource screen shows what's on what?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>It would be good to know if you have 4 or 5 independent IRQs
>>>>>>>2,3,4,1/5,agp
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I run my 2 eds cards on the same IRQ 3 on my box.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>John
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Kim W. wrote:
>>>>>>>> Just returned from "The Dungeon", and am happy to report that
>>>>>>>> all appears to be working.
>>>>>>>> (4 EDS's, 2 Nvidia Qudras).
>>>>>>>> Thus far I have no DX/VST plugins installed.
>>>>>>>> (In the past this is where my installs have come unstuck.)
>>>>>>>> After initial disappointment with the dreaded Crash-on-
>>>>>>>> exit, I remembered about the "minimum install" effects subsystem
>fix,
>>>>>>with
>>>>>>>> wires.
>>>>>>>> Applying this seems to have cured the COE.
>>>>>>>> I'm pretty stoked at the moment, and have ghosted.
>>>>>>>> All slots are full, and there appears to be some sharing going on,(I
>>>>>attached
>>>>>>>> a screen grab)
>>>>>>>> but time will tell if it causes any problems. I just bunged all
>>>>>>>> four EDS's in, and let the system allocate resources as it
>>>>>>>> seemed fit.
>>>>>>>> I did, however, disable the SATA, and the parallel port in the bios.
>>>>>>>> Time for bed, as it's been 12 hours since I deemed it "Beer O'clock".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>It doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5, unless
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>that's
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>just assumed...? I know often 1 shares with AGP.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Kim...........if PCI 1 and 5 "do not" share with the AGP, this is
>>>>>>>>>potentially a HUGE deal and this would be the most flexible (semi
>>current)
>>>>>>>>>mobo in existence today for 939 CPU's. I cannot find any reference
>>>to
>>>>>>this
>>>>>>>>>in the Gigabyte manual. When/if it is possible, could you insert
>a
>>>PCI
>>>>>>card
>>>>>>>>>in slot 1 or 5 (or both), then load the drivers for whatever that
>>device
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> is,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>then go to your system info, look under system resources, navigate
>>>to
>>>>>>>>>hardware resources>IRQ and let us know if the device(s) in PCI slots
>>>>>1
>>>>>>or
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 5
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>is/are sharing an IRQ with the AGP? If not, I'm gonna be thinking
>>hard
>>>>>>about
>>>>>>>>>switching mobo's on my Paris rig and trying to get that duallie
CPU
>>>>>>>>>happening with my Paris rig. Theis could conceivably allow 5 x EDS
>>>cards
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>operate on a dual core Athlon. I would do this here, but I don't
>have
>>>>>>all
>>>>>>>>>the componentry that I need yet and the ergonomics of moving all
>of
>>>>my
>>>>>>EDS
>>>>>>>>>cards to a Magma chassis (which is already being used by another
>DAW)
>>>>>>is
>>>>>>>>>something that would take my entire studio down for a couple of
days,
>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>I'm pretty busy right now.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Deej
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:44afb30d$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Mine doesn't show that it's sharing with AGP, though 1 does share
>>>with
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 5.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>It has a BIOS window you can go to which allows you to set manually
>>>>>which
>>>>>>>>>>interrupt each slot uses, and tells you what will be sharing with
>>>it
>>>>>>if
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>you
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>use that one. I have some things sharing, but everything is working
>>>>>fine
>>>>>>>>>>so I'm not concerned. Firewire shares with an EDS for example,
but
>>>>I
>>>>>>never
>>>>>>>>>>use Paris and firewire together so that's not really a problem.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>It doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5, unless
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>that's
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>just assumed...? I know often 1 shares with AGP.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>lack of interrupt control is a deal breaker for me
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Kim wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>The biggest pitfall I found with the K8NS was that while the
manual
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>states
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>you have pretty good interrupt control, they actually removed
>it
>>>>from
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>bios. The latest BIOS which gives you proper interrupt control
>>(unless
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>they've
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>added it back - haven't checked for months) is version F6, which
>>>>I
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> use.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>It's
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>quite old but I haven't had any issues. The thing never crashes.
>>>>It's
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>maybe
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>crashed once or twice since I've had it, which is about 12 months
>>>>>now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>My motherboard seems to have a quirk in the BIOS and I'm currently
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>running
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>on the backup BIOS on the board, but she runs fine like that.
>It
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>forgets
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>HDD's on startup. Not sure why... (unless it's a quirk of the
>F6
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>firmware,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>but that seems unlikely...)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Apart from that though it's great. I run only a two card system
>>>though,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>only dual head video (A Nvidia card currently) but have had no
>>issues
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>apart
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>from the BIOS losing hdd's on startup which appears to be a MB
>>fault
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>(should
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>take it back before my warranty runs out...).
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>It's quick though, and very stable. I'm happy with it. :o)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Cheers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hi, all.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a
view
>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>upgrade
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>at some stage.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the
>>K8NS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>is one of the fave mobos.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as
>far
>>>>>as
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>which
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use,
>>>in
>>>>>>an
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>attempt
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and
four
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>C-16's.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Did it pan out for you??
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Kim #2.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
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| Re: BTW: Paris XP, K8NS ultra939...any pitfalls??..IT SEEMS NOT! (yet..) [message #70258 is a reply to message #70254] |
Wed, 12 July 2006 07:14 |
John [1]
Messages: 2229
Registered: September 2005
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Senior Member |
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How about posting up your final config, what slots things are in, any tweaks.
Do you have a sound card? Ram, drive types, etc.
Glad you're cooking with hot weasel grease ! Image that sucka !
John
"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>
>Well, after my first tracking session with the new comp, I am
>(extremely) happy to report Paris XP is finally working for me.
>It feels smoother, quicker, and more robust than ever before.
>I did nothing as far as irq assigning, tweaks etc.
>(I did disable the SATA,.. as I still use PATA, and also the parallel port.)
>I'm running in APIC mode, (not standard PC),
>I even bunged all four EDS's in at once, and let windows assign
>resources as it seemed fit.
>It's NEVER been this easy with any other comp. (I've been running
>Paris pretty much since it was released...
>starting with a 686 200 cyrix).
>The IRQ sharing seems to have no negative effects, and both
>dual-head Nvidia Quadras are happy.
>To those thinking of upgrading their Paris boxes, grab one of
>these mobos while/if you can, and XP3500+'s are cheap as chips
>now.
>Rave over :-))))
>Kim W.
>
>
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Good to hear. Keep us updated. :o)
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Kim.
>>
>>
>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>YEEHAH!!
>>>This is ROCKIN!
>>>After upping the cache sizes, I have a 64 track project playing
>>>beautifully.
>>>Everything feels snappy!
>>>I can drag windows anywhare whilst playing without a hiccup!
>>>(Couldn't do that with the '98 box.
>>>I resized the drive using Acronis.
>>>All looking good so far.
>>>Now for the plugins....
>>>Kim
>>>
>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Did you format the drive using WinXP pre-SP1? I beleive that the installer
>>>>for WinXP original version has an upper limit on hdd size... I ran
into
>>>>this with my 2 x 250Gigs...
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>>Kim.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Kim W." <no@way> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>From the looks of your System Devices info vs what you posted there,
>>you're
>>>>>Hi again, Kim.
>>>>>Just about to start fiddling again.
>>>>>Gotta get my lost 120gb back. Would rather not reformat.
>>>>>Also I need to arrange the drives so that my removeable (caddy)
>>>>>drive becomes "E" again. Don't really want to reset filepaths
>>>>>for all projects.
>>>>>Will keep you posted.
>>>>>Kim
>>>>>
>>>>>running in the default "ACPI Uniprocessor PC" mode, not standard PC
mode.
>>>>>>From my testing and talks with DJ this means that, unfortunately, the
>>>PCI
>>>>>>configuration stuff in the BIOS doesn't actually function, which is
>
>>>>>
>>>>>why you'll
>>>>>>find discrpencies between what you have configured in the BIOS (Which
>>>I
>>>>>assume
>>>>>>is what you just listed) vs what you see in Windows.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>HOWEVER...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I suggest you just keep going. It is possible to switch to Standard
>PC
>>>>mode
>>>>>>without a reinstall, though I have heard it can cause issues (never
>has
>>>>>for
>>>>>>me though). Deej and I are interested to see if you can run your NVidia
>>>>>cards
>>>>>>sharing with the EDS cards on IRQs, as I suspect it will actually work
>>>>(it's
>>>>>>working for me here fine).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Slot 1 is usually next to the AGP. If you go into the system device
>manager
>>>>>>IRQ screen and double click an item it tells you what slot things are
>>>in,
>>>>>>so this may help you confirm.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>On my system slot 4 on the MB seems to share with AGP, though that
might
>>>>>>be because that's how Windows decided to do it, not because they are
>>hardwired...
>>>>>> that's still up in the air.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>How's it going anyhow? Got it running? Is it stable?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hi, John.
>>>>>>>I can't see the PCI slot numbers on the mobo, (or in the manual),
>>>>>>>but here is what I have in the slots starting from the one next
>>>>>>>to the AGP slot, and the IRQ assignments in the black boot-up
>>>>>>>screen:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>1: Nvidia Quadro PCI irq 11
>>>>>>>2: EDS irq 9
>>>>>>>3: EDS irq 7
>>>>>>>4: EDS irq 5
>>>>>>>5: EDS irq 10
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Onboard audio uses irq 12, Firewire controller uses irq 10,
>>>>>>>ACPI controller uses irq 9.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Is this enough info?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>BTW why would my brand new 250 gb ata drive only have been formatted
>>>for
>>>>>>>130gb during XP install? Only just noticed it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>What slots are each card in. Also, their manual didn't mention what
>>>>agp
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>uses for irq and whether it shares or not. Can't you tell on boot
>>up
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>when that black resource screen shows what's on what?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>It would be good to know if you have 4 or 5 independent IRQs
>>>>>>>>2,3,4,1/5,agp
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I run my 2 eds cards on the same IRQ 3 on my box.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>John
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Kim W. wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Just returned from "The Dungeon", and am happy to report that
>>>>>>>>> all appears to be working.
>>>>>>>>> (4 EDS's, 2 Nvidia Qudras).
>>>>>>>>> Thus far I have no DX/VST plugins installed.
>>>>>>>>> (In the past this is where my installs have come unstuck.)
>>>>>>>>> After initial disappointment with the dreaded Crash-on-
>>>>>>>>> exit, I remembered about the "minimum install" effects subsystem
>>fix,
>>>>>>>with
>>>>>>>>> wires.
>>>>>>>>> Applying this seems to have cured the COE.
>>>>>>>>> I'm pretty stoked at the moment, and have ghosted.
>>>>>>>>> All slots are full, and there appears to be some sharing going
on,(I
>>>>>>attached
>>>>>>>>> a screen grab)
>>>>>>>>> but time will tell if it causes any problems. I just bunged all
>>>>>>>>> four EDS's in, and let the system allocate resources as it
>>>>>>>>> seemed fit.
>>>>>>>>> I did, however, disable the SATA, and the parallel port in the
bios.
>>>>>>>>> Time for bed, as it's been 12 hours since I deemed it "Beer O'clock".
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>It doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5,
unless
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>that's
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>just assumed...? I know often 1 shares with AGP.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Kim...........if PCI 1 and 5 "do not" share with the AGP, this
is
>>>>>>>>>>potentially a HUGE deal and this would be the most flexible (semi
>>>current)
>>>>>>>>>>mobo in existence today for 939 CPU's. I cannot find any reference
>>>>to
>>>>>>>this
>>>>>>>>>>in the Gigabyte manual. When/if it is possible, could you insert
>>a
>>>>PCI
>>>>>>>card
>>>>>>>>>>in slot 1 or 5 (or both), then load the drivers for whatever that
>>>device
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> is,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>then go to your system info, look under system resources, navigate
>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>hardware resources>IRQ and let us know if the device(s) in PCI
slots
>>>>>>1
>>>>>>>or
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 5
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>is/are sharing an IRQ with the AGP? If not, I'm gonna be thinking
>>>hard
>>>>>>>about
>>>>>>>>>>switching mobo's on my Paris rig and trying to get that duallie
>CPU
>>>>>>>>>>happening with my Paris rig. Theis could conceivably allow 5 x
EDS
>>>>cards
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>operate on a dual core Athlon. I would do this here, but I don't
>>have
>>>>>>>all
>>>>>>>>>>the componentry that I need yet and the ergonomics of moving all
>>of
>>>>>my
>>>>>>>EDS
>>>>>>>>>>cards to a Magma chassis (which is already being used by another
>>DAW)
>>>>>>>is
>>>>>>>>>>something that would take my entire studio down for a couple of
>days,
>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>I'm pretty busy right now.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Deej
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:44afb30d$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Mine doesn't show that it's sharing with AGP, though 1 does share
>>>>with
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 5.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>It has a BIOS window you can go to which allows you to set manually
>>>>>>which
>>>>>>>>>>>interrupt each slot uses, and tells you what will be sharing with
>>>>it
>>>>>>>if
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>you
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>use that one. I have some things sharing, but everything is working
>>>>>>fine
>>>>>>>>>>>so I'm not concerned. Firewire shares with an EDS for example,
>but
>>>>>I
>>>>>>>never
>>>>>>>>>>>use Paris and firewire together so that's not really a problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>It doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5,
unless
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>that's
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>just assumed...? I know often 1 shares with AGP.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>lack of interrupt control is a deal breaker for me
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Kim wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>The biggest pitfall I found with the K8NS was that while the
>manual
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>states
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>you have pretty good interrupt control, they actually removed
>>it
>>>>>from
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>bios. The latest BIOS which gives you proper interrupt control
>>>(unless
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>they've
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>added it back - haven't checked for months) is version F6, which
>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> use.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>It's
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>quite old but I haven't had any issues. The thing never crashes.
>>>>>It's
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>maybe
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>crashed once or twice since I've had it, which is about 12 months
>>>>>>now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>My motherboard seems to have a quirk in the BIOS and I'm currently
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>running
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>on the backup BIOS on the board, but she runs fine like that.
>>It
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>forgets
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>HDD's on startup. Not sure why... (unless it's a quirk of the
>>F6
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>firmware,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>but that seems unlikely...)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Apart from that though it's great. I run only a two card system
>>>>though,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>only dual head video (A Nvidia card currently) but have had
no
>>>issues
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>apart
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>from the BIOS losing hdd's on startup which appears to be a
MB
>>>fault
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>(should
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>take it back before my warranty runs out...).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>It's quick though, and very stable. I'm happy with it. :o)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Cheers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hi, all.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a
>view
>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>upgrade
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>at some stage.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the
>>>K8NS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>is one of the fave mobos.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as
>>far
>>>>>>as
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>which
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use,
>>>>in
>>>>>>>an
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>attempt
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and
>four
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>C-16's.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Did it pan out for you??
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Kim #2.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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| Re: BTW: Paris XP, K8NS ultra939...any pitfalls??..IT SEEMS NOT! (yet..) [message #70259 is a reply to message #70258] |
Wed, 12 July 2006 11:22 |
Deej [1]
Messages: 2149
Registered: January 2006
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Senior Member |
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Hot weasel grease? I'm having a Zappa moment!
;o)
"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:44b503dc$1@linux...
>
> How about posting up your final config, what slots things are in, any
tweaks.
> Do you have a sound card? Ram, drive types, etc.
>
> Glad you're cooking with hot weasel grease ! Image that sucka !
> John
>
> "Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
> >
> >Well, after my first tracking session with the new comp, I am
> >(extremely) happy to report Paris XP is finally working for me.
> >It feels smoother, quicker, and more robust than ever before.
> >I did nothing as far as irq assigning, tweaks etc.
> >(I did disable the SATA,.. as I still use PATA, and also the parallel
port.)
> >I'm running in APIC mode, (not standard PC),
> >I even bunged all four EDS's in at once, and let windows assign
> >resources as it seemed fit.
> >It's NEVER been this easy with any other comp. (I've been running
> >Paris pretty much since it was released...
> >starting with a 686 200 cyrix).
> >The IRQ sharing seems to have no negative effects, and both
> >dual-head Nvidia Quadras are happy.
> >To those thinking of upgrading their Paris boxes, grab one of
> >these mobos while/if you can, and XP3500+'s are cheap as chips
> >now.
> >Rave over :-))))
> >Kim W.
> >
> >
> >
> >"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>Good to hear. Keep us updated. :o)
> >>
> >>Cheers,
> >>Kim.
> >>
> >>
> >>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>YEEHAH!!
> >>>This is ROCKIN!
> >>>After upping the cache sizes, I have a 64 track project playing
> >>>beautifully.
> >>>Everything feels snappy!
> >>>I can drag windows anywhare whilst playing without a hiccup!
> >>>(Couldn't do that with the '98 box.
> >>>I resized the drive using Acronis.
> >>>All looking good so far.
> >>>Now for the plugins....
> >>>Kim
> >>>
> >>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Did you format the drive using WinXP pre-SP1? I beleive that the
installer
> >>>>for WinXP original version has an upper limit on hdd size... I ran
> into
> >>>>this with my 2 x 250Gigs...
> >>>>
> >>>>Cheers,
> >>>>Kim.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>"Kim W." <no@way> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>From the looks of your System Devices info vs what you posted there,
> >>you're
> >>>>>Hi again, Kim.
> >>>>>Just about to start fiddling again.
> >>>>>Gotta get my lost 120gb back. Would rather not reformat.
> >>>>>Also I need to arrange the drives so that my removeable (caddy)
> >>>>>drive becomes "E" again. Don't really want to reset filepaths
> >>>>>for all projects.
> >>>>>Will keep you posted.
> >>>>>Kim
> >>>>>
> >>>>>running in the default "ACPI Uniprocessor PC" mode, not standard PC
> mode.
> >>>>>>From my testing and talks with DJ this means that, unfortunately,
the
> >>>PCI
> >>>>>>configuration stuff in the BIOS doesn't actually function, which is
> >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>why you'll
> >>>>>>find discrpencies between what you have configured in the BIOS
(Which
> >>>I
> >>>>>assume
> >>>>>>is what you just listed) vs what you see in Windows.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>HOWEVER...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>I suggest you just keep going. It is possible to switch to Standard
> >PC
> >>>>mode
> >>>>>>without a reinstall, though I have heard it can cause issues (never
> >has
> >>>>>for
> >>>>>>me though). Deej and I are interested to see if you can run your
NVidia
> >>>>>cards
> >>>>>>sharing with the EDS cards on IRQs, as I suspect it will actually
work
> >>>>(it's
> >>>>>>working for me here fine).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Slot 1 is usually next to the AGP. If you go into the system device
> >manager
> >>>>>>IRQ screen and double click an item it tells you what slot things
are
> >>>in,
> >>>>>>so this may help you confirm.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>On my system slot 4 on the MB seems to share with AGP, though that
> might
> >>>>>>be because that's how Windows decided to do it, not because they are
> >>hardwired...
> >>>>>> that's still up in the air.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>How's it going anyhow? Got it running? Is it stable?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Cheers,
> >>>>>>Kim.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Hi, John.
> >>>>>>>I can't see the PCI slot numbers on the mobo, (or in the manual),
> >>>>>>>but here is what I have in the slots starting from the one next
> >>>>>>>to the AGP slot, and the IRQ assignments in the black boot-up
> >>>>>>>screen:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>1: Nvidia Quadro PCI irq 11
> >>>>>>>2: EDS irq 9
> >>>>>>>3: EDS irq 7
> >>>>>>>4: EDS irq 5
> >>>>>>>5: EDS irq 10
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Onboard audio uses irq 12, Firewire controller uses irq 10,
> >>>>>>>ACPI controller uses irq 9.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Is this enough info?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Cheers,
> >>>>>>>Kim.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>BTW why would my brand new 250 gb ata drive only have been
formatted
> >>>for
> >>>>>>>130gb during XP install? Only just noticed it.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>John <no@no.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>What slots are each card in. Also, their manual didn't mention
what
> >>>>agp
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>uses for irq and whether it shares or not. Can't you tell on boot
> >>up
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>when that black resource screen shows what's on what?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>It would be good to know if you have 4 or 5 independent IRQs
> >>>>>>>>2,3,4,1/5,agp
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>I run my 2 eds cards on the same IRQ 3 on my box.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>John
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Kim W. wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Just returned from "The Dungeon", and am happy to report that
> >>>>>>>>> all appears to be working.
> >>>>>>>>> (4 EDS's, 2 Nvidia Qudras).
> >>>>>>>>> Thus far I have no DX/VST plugins installed.
> >>>>>>>>> (In the past this is where my installs have come unstuck.)
> >>>>>>>>> After initial disappointment with the dreaded Crash-on-
> >>>>>>>>> exit, I remembered about the "minimum install" effects subsystem
> >>fix,
> >>>>>>>with
> >>>>>>>>> wires.
> >>>>>>>>> Applying this seems to have cured the COE.
> >>>>>>>>> I'm pretty stoked at the moment, and have ghosted.
> >>>>>>>>> All slots are full, and there appears to be some sharing going
> on,(I
> >>>>>>attached
> >>>>>>>>> a screen grab)
> >>>>>>>>> but time will tell if it causes any problems. I just bunged all
> >>>>>>>>> four EDS's in, and let the system allocate resources as it
> >>>>>>>>> seemed fit.
> >>>>>>>>> I did, however, disable the SATA, and the parallel port in the
> bios.
> >>>>>>>>> Time for bed, as it's been 12 hours since I deemed it "Beer
O'clock".
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>It doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5,
> unless
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>that's
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>just assumed...? I know often 1 shares with AGP.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>Kim...........if PCI 1 and 5 "do not" share with the AGP, this
> is
> >>>>>>>>>>potentially a HUGE deal and this would be the most flexible
(semi
> >>>current)
> >>>>>>>>>>mobo in existence today for 939 CPU's. I cannot find any
reference
> >>>>to
> >>>>>>>this
> >>>>>>>>>>in the Gigabyte manual. When/if it is possible, could you insert
> >>a
> >>>>PCI
> >>>>>>>card
> >>>>>>>>>>in slot 1 or 5 (or both), then load the drivers for whatever
that
> >>>device
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> is,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>then go to your system info, look under system resources,
navigate
> >>>>to
> >>>>>>>>>>hardware resources>IRQ and let us know if the device(s) in PCI
> slots
> >>>>>>1
> >>>>>>>or
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> 5
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>is/are sharing an IRQ with the AGP? If not, I'm gonna be
thinking
> >>>hard
> >>>>>>>about
> >>>>>>>>>>switching mobo's on my Paris rig and trying to get that duallie
> >CPU
> >>>>>>>>>>happening with my Paris rig. Theis could conceivably allow 5 x
> EDS
> >>>>cards
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>operate on a dual core Athlon. I would do this here, but I don't
> >>have
> >>>>>>>all
> >>>>>>>>>>the componentry that I need yet and the ergonomics of moving all
> >>of
> >>>>>my
> >>>>>>>EDS
> >>>>>>>>>>cards to a Magma chassis (which is already being used by another
> >>DAW)
> >>>>>>>is
> >>>>>>>>>>something that would take my entire studio down for a couple of
> >days,
> >>>>>>>and
> >>>>>>>>>>I'm pretty busy right now.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>Deej
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:44afb30d$1@linux...
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>Mine doesn't show that it's sharing with AGP, though 1 does
share
> >>>>with
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> 5.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>It has a BIOS window you can go to which allows you to set
manually
> >>>>>>which
> >>>>>>>>>>>interrupt each slot uses, and tells you what will be sharing
with
> >>>>it
> >>>>>>>if
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>you
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>use that one. I have some things sharing, but everything is
working
> >>>>>>fine
> >>>>>>>>>>>so I'm not concerned. Firewire shares with an EDS for example,
> >but
> >>>>>I
> >>>>>>>never
> >>>>>>>>>>>use Paris and firewire together so that's not really a problem.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>It doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5,
> unless
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>that's
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>just assumed...? I know often 1 shares with AGP.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>Cheers,
> >>>>>>>>>>>Kim.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>John <no@no.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>lack of interrupt control is a deal breaker for me
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>Kim wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>The biggest pitfall I found with the K8NS was that while the
> >manual
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>states
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>you have pretty good interrupt control, they actually removed
> >>it
> >>>>>from
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>the
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>bios. The latest BIOS which gives you proper interrupt
control
> >>>(unless
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>they've
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>added it back - haven't checked for months) is version F6,
which
> >>>>>I
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> use.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>It's
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>quite old but I haven't had any issues. The thing never
crashes.
> >>>>>It's
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>maybe
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>crashed once or twice since I've had it, which is about 12
months
> >>>>>>now.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>My motherboard seems to have a quirk in the BIOS and I'm
currently
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>running
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>on the backup BIOS on the board, but she runs fine like that.
> >>It
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>forgets
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>HDD's on startup. Not sure why... (unless it's a quirk of the
> >>F6
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>firmware,
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>but that seems unlikely...)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Apart from that though it's great. I run only a two card
system
> >>>>though,
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>and
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>only dual head video (A Nvidia card currently) but have had
> no
> >>>issues
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>apart
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>from the BIOS losing hdd's on startup which appears to be a
> MB
> >>>fault
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>(should
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>take it back before my warranty runs out...).
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>It's quick though, and very stable. I'm happy with it. :o)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Cheers,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Kim.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Cheers.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hi, all.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a
> >view
> >>>>>>to
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>upgrade
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>at some stage.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>It appears the time is nigh!!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and
the
> >>>K8NS
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>is one of the fave mobos.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the
Gigabyte.)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as
> >>far
> >>>>>>as
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>which
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't
use,
> >>>>in
> >>>>>>>an
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>attempt
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and
> >four
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>C-16's.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Did it pan out for you??
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Kim #2.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
>
>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ -----
-------
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
>
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| Re: BTW: Paris XP, K8NS ultra939...any pitfalls??..IT SEEMS NOT! (yet..) [message #70260 is a reply to message #70259] |
Wed, 12 July 2006 11:27 |
John [1]
Messages: 2229
Registered: September 2005
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They're like baby snakes, you look around and there's a couple right near
ya !
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>Hot weasel grease? I'm having a Zappa moment!
>
>;o)
>
>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:44b503dc$1@linux...
>>
>> How about posting up your final config, what slots things are in, any
>tweaks.
>> Do you have a sound card? Ram, drive types, etc.
>>
>> Glad you're cooking with hot weasel grease ! Image that sucka !
>> John
>>
>> "Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >Well, after my first tracking session with the new comp, I am
>> >(extremely) happy to report Paris XP is finally working for me.
>> >It feels smoother, quicker, and more robust than ever before.
>> >I did nothing as far as irq assigning, tweaks etc.
>> >(I did disable the SATA,.. as I still use PATA, and also the parallel
>port.)
>> >I'm running in APIC mode, (not standard PC),
>> >I even bunged all four EDS's in at once, and let windows assign
>> >resources as it seemed fit.
>> >It's NEVER been this easy with any other comp. (I've been running
>> >Paris pretty much since it was released...
>> >starting with a 686 200 cyrix).
>> >The IRQ sharing seems to have no negative effects, and both
>> >dual-head Nvidia Quadras are happy.
>> >To those thinking of upgrading their Paris boxes, grab one of
>> >these mobos while/if you can, and XP3500+'s are cheap as chips
>> >now.
>> >Rave over :-))))
>> >Kim W.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>Good to hear. Keep us updated. :o)
>> >>
>> >>Cheers,
>> >>Kim.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>YEEHAH!!
>> >>>This is ROCKIN!
>> >>>After upping the cache sizes, I have a 64 track project playing
>> >>>beautifully.
>> >>>Everything feels snappy!
>> >>>I can drag windows anywhare whilst playing without a hiccup!
>> >>>(Couldn't do that with the '98 box.
>> >>>I resized the drive using Acronis.
>> >>>All looking good so far.
>> >>>Now for the plugins....
>> >>>Kim
>> >>>
>> >>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Did you format the drive using WinXP pre-SP1? I beleive that the
>installer
>> >>>>for WinXP original version has an upper limit on hdd size... I ran
>> into
>> >>>>this with my 2 x 250Gigs...
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Cheers,
>> >>>>Kim.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>"Kim W." <no@way> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>From the looks of your System Devices info vs what you posted there,
>> >>you're
>> >>>>>Hi again, Kim.
>> >>>>>Just about to start fiddling again.
>> >>>>>Gotta get my lost 120gb back. Would rather not reformat.
>> >>>>>Also I need to arrange the drives so that my removeable (caddy)
>> >>>>>drive becomes "E" again. Don't really want to reset filepaths
>> >>>>>for all projects.
>> >>>>>Will keep you posted.
>> >>>>>Kim
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>running in the default "ACPI Uniprocessor PC" mode, not standard
PC
>> mode.
>> >>>>>>From my testing and talks with DJ this means that, unfortunately,
>the
>> >>>PCI
>> >>>>>>configuration stuff in the BIOS doesn't actually function, which
is
>> >
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>why you'll
>> >>>>>>find discrpencies between what you have configured in the BIOS
>(Which
>> >>>I
>> >>>>>assume
>> >>>>>>is what you just listed) vs what you see in Windows.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>HOWEVER...
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>I suggest you just keep going. It is possible to switch to Standard
>> >PC
>> >>>>mode
>> >>>>>>without a reinstall, though I have heard it can cause issues (never
>> >has
>> >>>>>for
>> >>>>>>me though). Deej and I are interested to see if you can run your
>NVidia
>> >>>>>cards
>> >>>>>>sharing with the EDS cards on IRQs, as I suspect it will actually
>work
>> >>>>(it's
>> >>>>>>working for me here fine).
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>Slot 1 is usually next to the AGP. If you go into the system device
>> >manager
>> >>>>>>IRQ screen and double click an item it tells you what slot things
>are
>> >>>in,
>> >>>>>>so this may help you confirm.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>On my system slot 4 on the MB seems to share with AGP, though that
>> might
>> >>>>>>be because that's how Windows decided to do it, not because they
are
>> >>hardwired...
>> >>>>>> that's still up in the air.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>How's it going anyhow? Got it running? Is it stable?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>Cheers,
>> >>>>>>Kim.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>Hi, John.
>> >>>>>>>I can't see the PCI slot numbers on the mobo, (or in the manual),
>> >>>>>>>but here is what I have in the slots starting from the one next
>> >>>>>>>to the AGP slot, and the IRQ assignments in the black boot-up
>> >>>>>>>screen:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>1: Nvidia Quadro PCI irq 11
>> >>>>>>>2: EDS irq 9
>> >>>>>>>3: EDS irq 7
>> >>>>>>>4: EDS irq 5
>> >>>>>>>5: EDS irq 10
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>Onboard audio uses irq 12, Firewire controller uses irq 10,
>> >>>>>>>ACPI controller uses irq 9.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>Is this enough info?
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>Cheers,
>> >>>>>>>Kim.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>BTW why would my brand new 250 gb ata drive only have been
>formatted
>> >>>for
>> >>>>>>>130gb during XP install? Only just noticed it.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>John <no@no.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>What slots are each card in. Also, their manual didn't mention
>what
>> >>>>agp
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>uses for irq and whether it shares or not. Can't you tell on
boot
>> >>up
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>when that black resource screen shows what's on what?
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>It would be good to know if you have 4 or 5 independent IRQs
>> >>>>>>>>2,3,4,1/5,agp
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>I run my 2 eds cards on the same IRQ 3 on my box.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>John
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>Kim W. wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>> Just returned from "The Dungeon", and am happy to report that
>> >>>>>>>>> all appears to be working.
>> >>>>>>>>> (4 EDS's, 2 Nvidia Qudras).
>> >>>>>>>>> Thus far I have no DX/VST plugins installed.
>> >>>>>>>>> (In the past this is where my installs have come unstuck.)
>> >>>>>>>>> After initial disappointment with the dreaded Crash-on-
>> >>>>>>>>> exit, I remembered about the "minimum install" effects subsystem
>> >>fix,
>> >>>>>>>with
>> >>>>>>>>> wires.
>> >>>>>>>>> Applying this seems to have cured the COE.
>> >>>>>>>>> I'm pretty stoked at the moment, and have ghosted.
>> >>>>>>>>> All slots are full, and there appears to be some sharing going
>> on,(I
>> >>>>>>attached
>> >>>>>>>>> a screen grab)
>> >>>>>>>>> but time will tell if it causes any problems. I just bunged
all
>> >>>>>>>>> four EDS's in, and let the system allocate resources as it
>> >>>>>>>>> seemed fit.
>> >>>>>>>>> I did, however, disable the SATA, and the parallel port in the
>> bios.
>> >>>>>>>>> Time for bed, as it's been 12 hours since I deemed it "Beer
>O'clock".
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>It doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5,
>> unless
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>that's
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>just assumed...? I know often 1 shares with AGP.
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>Kim...........if PCI 1 and 5 "do not" share with the AGP, this
>> is
>> >>>>>>>>>>potentially a HUGE deal and this would be the most flexible
>(semi
>> >>>current)
>> >>>>>>>>>>mobo in existence today for 939 CPU's. I cannot find any
>reference
>> >>>>to
>> >>>>>>>this
>> >>>>>>>>>>in the Gigabyte manual. When/if it is possible, could you insert
>> >>a
>> >>>>PCI
>> >>>>>>>card
>> >>>>>>>>>>in slot 1 or 5 (or both), then load the drivers for whatever
>that
>> >>>device
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> is,
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>then go to your system info, look under system resources,
>navigate
>> >>>>to
>> >>>>>>>>>>hardware resources>IRQ and let us know if the device(s) in PCI
>> slots
>> >>>>>>1
>> >>>>>>>or
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> 5
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>is/are sharing an IRQ with the AGP? If not, I'm gonna be
>thinking
>> >>>hard
>> >>>>>>>about
>> >>>>>>>>>>switching mobo's on my Paris rig and trying to get that duallie
>> >CPU
>> >>>>>>>>>>happening with my Paris rig. Theis could conceivably allow 5
x
>> EDS
>> >>>>cards
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> to
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>operate on a dual core Athlon. I would do this here, but I don't
>> >>have
>> >>>>>>>all
>> >>>>>>>>>>the componentry that I need yet and the ergonomics of moving
all
>> >>of
>> >>>>>my
>> >>>>>>>EDS
>> >>>>>>>>>>cards to a Magma chassis (which is already being used by another
>> >>DAW)
>> >>>>>>>is
>> >>>>>>>>>>something that would take my entire studio down for a couple
of
>> >days,
>> >>>>>>>and
>> >>>>>>>>>>I'm pretty busy right now.
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>Deej
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:44afb30d$1@linux...
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>Mine doesn't show that it's sharing with AGP, though 1 does
>share
>> >>>>with
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> 5.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>It has a BIOS window you can go to which allows you to set
>manually
>> >>>>>>which
>> >>>>>>>>>>>interrupt each slot uses, and tells you what will be sharing
>with
>> >>>>it
>> >>>>>>>if
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>you
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>use that one. I have some things sharing, but everything is
>working
>> >>>>>>fine
>> >>>>>>>>>>>so I'm not concerned. Firewire shares with an EDS for example,
>> >but
>> >>>>>I
>> >>>>>>>never
>> >>>>>>>>>>>use Paris and firewire together so that's not really a problem.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>It doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5,
>> unless
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>that's
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>just assumed...? I know often 1 shares with AGP.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>Cheers,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>Kim.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>John <no@no.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>lack of interrupt control is a deal breaker for me
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>Kim wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>The biggest pitfall I found with the K8NS was that while
the
>> >manual
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>states
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>you have pretty good interrupt control, they actually removed
>> >>it
>> >>>>>from
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>the
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>bios. The latest BIOS which gives you proper interrupt
>control
>> >>>(unless
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>they've
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>added it back - haven't checked for months) is version F6,
>which
>> >>>>>I
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> use.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>It's
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>quite old but I haven't had any issues. The thing never
>crashes.
>> >>>>>It's
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>maybe
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>crashed once or twice since I've had it, which is about 12
>months
>> >>>>>>now.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>My motherboard seems to have a quirk in the BIOS and I'm
>currently
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>running
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>on the backup BIOS on the board, but she runs fine like that.
>> >>It
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>forgets
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>HDD's on startup. Not sure why... (unless it's a quirk of
the
>> >>F6
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>firmware,
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>but that seems unlikely...)
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Apart from that though it's great. I run only a two card
>system
>> >>>>though,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>and
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>only dual head video (A Nvidia card currently) but have had
>> no
>> >>>issues
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>apart
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>from the BIOS losing hdd's on startup which appears to be
a
>> MB
>> >>>fault
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>(should
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>take it back before my warranty runs out...).
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>It's quick though, and very stable. I'm happy with it. :o)
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Cheers,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Kim.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Cheers.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hi, all.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with
a
>> >view
>> >>>>>>to
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>upgrade
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>at some stage.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and
>the
>> >>>K8NS
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>is one of the fave mobos.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the
>Gigabyte.)
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way
as
>> >>far
>> >>>>>>as
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>which
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't
>use,
>> >>>>in
>> >>>>>>>an
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>attempt
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card),
and
>> >four
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>C-16's.
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Did it pan out for you??
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Kim #2.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ -----
>-------
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>
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| Re: BTW: Paris XP, K8NS ultra939...any pitfalls??..IT SEEMS NOT! (yet..) [message #70265 is a reply to message #70260] |
Wed, 12 July 2006 14:57 |
Aaron Allen
Messages: 1988
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yes, but you only want to pick them up with zircon encrusted tweezers man.
AA
"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:44b53f04$1@linux...
>
> They're like baby snakes, you look around and there's a couple right
> near
> ya !
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>Hot weasel grease? I'm having a Zappa moment!
>>
>>;o)
>>
>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:44b503dc$1@linux...
>>>
>>> How about posting up your final config, what slots things are in, any
>>tweaks.
>>> Do you have a sound card? Ram, drive types, etc.
>>>
>>> Glad you're cooking with hot weasel grease ! Image that sucka !
>>> John
>>>
>>> "Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >Well, after my first tracking session with the new comp, I am
>>> >(extremely) happy to report Paris XP is finally working for me.
>>> >It feels smoother, quicker, and more robust than ever before.
>>> >I did nothing as far as irq assigning, tweaks etc.
>>> >(I did disable the SATA,.. as I still use PATA, and also the parallel
>>port.)
>>> >I'm running in APIC mode, (not standard PC),
>>> >I even bunged all four EDS's in at once, and let windows assign
>>> >resources as it seemed fit.
>>> >It's NEVER been this easy with any other comp. (I've been running
>>> >Paris pretty much since it was released...
>>> >starting with a 686 200 cyrix).
>>> >The IRQ sharing seems to have no negative effects, and both
>>> >dual-head Nvidia Quadras are happy.
>>> >To those thinking of upgrading their Paris boxes, grab one of
>>> >these mobos while/if you can, and XP3500+'s are cheap as chips
>>> >now.
>>> >Rave over :-))))
>>> >Kim W.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>Good to hear. Keep us updated. :o)
>>> >>
>>> >>Cheers,
>>> >>Kim.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>YEEHAH!!
>>> >>>This is ROCKIN!
>>> >>>After upping the cache sizes, I have a 64 track project playing
>>> >>>beautifully.
>>> >>>Everything feels snappy!
>>> >>>I can drag windows anywhare whilst playing without a hiccup!
>>> >>>(Couldn't do that with the '98 box.
>>> >>>I resized the drive using Acronis.
>>> >>>All looking good so far.
>>> >>>Now for the plugins....
>>> >>>Kim
>>> >>>
>>> >>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>Did you format the drive using WinXP pre-SP1? I beleive that the
>>installer
>>> >>>>for WinXP original version has an upper limit on hdd size... I ran
>>> into
>>> >>>>this with my 2 x 250Gigs...
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>Cheers,
>>> >>>>Kim.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>"Kim W." <no@way> wrote:
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>From the looks of your System Devices info vs what you posted
>>> >>>>>>there,
>>> >>you're
>>> >>>>>Hi again, Kim.
>>> >>>>>Just about to start fiddling again.
>>> >>>>>Gotta get my lost 120gb back. Would rather not reformat.
>>> >>>>>Also I need to arrange the drives so that my removeable (caddy)
>>> >>>>>drive becomes "E" again. Don't really want to reset filepaths
>>> >>>>>for all projects.
>>> >>>>>Will keep you posted.
>>> >>>>>Kim
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>running in the default "ACPI Uniprocessor PC" mode, not standard
> PC
>>> mode.
>>> >>>>>>From my testing and talks with DJ this means that, unfortunately,
>>the
>>> >>>PCI
>>> >>>>>>configuration stuff in the BIOS doesn't actually function, which
> is
>>> >
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>why you'll
>>> >>>>>>find discrpencies between what you have configured in the BIOS
>>(Which
>>> >>>I
>>> >>>>>assume
>>> >>>>>>is what you just listed) vs what you see in Windows.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>HOWEVER...
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>I suggest you just keep going. It is possible to switch to
>>> >>>>>>Standard
>>> >PC
>>> >>>>mode
>>> >>>>>>without a reinstall, though I have heard it can cause issues
>>> >>>>>>(never
>>> >has
>>> >>>>>for
>>> >>>>>>me though). Deej and I are interested to see if you can run your
>>NVidia
>>> >>>>>cards
>>> >>>>>>sharing with the EDS cards on IRQs, as I suspect it will actually
>>work
>>> >>>>(it's
>>> >>>>>>working for me here fine).
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>Slot 1 is usually next to the AGP. If you go into the system
>>> >>>>>>device
>>> >manager
>>> >>>>>>IRQ screen and double click an item it tells you what slot things
>>are
>>> >>>in,
>>> >>>>>>so this may help you confirm.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>On my system slot 4 on the MB seems to share with AGP, though that
>>> might
>>> >>>>>>be because that's how Windows decided to do it, not because they
> are
>>> >>hardwired...
>>> >>>>>> that's still up in the air.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>How's it going anyhow? Got it running? Is it stable?
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>Cheers,
>>> >>>>>>Kim.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>Hi, John.
>>> >>>>>>>I can't see the PCI slot numbers on the mobo, (or in the manual),
>>> >>>>>>>but here is what I have in the slots starting from the one next
>>> >>>>>>>to the AGP slot, and the IRQ assignments in the black boot-up
>>> >>>>>>>screen:
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>1: Nvidia Quadro PCI irq 11
>>> >>>>>>>2: EDS irq 9
>>> >>>>>>>3: EDS irq 7
>>> >>>>>>>4: EDS irq 5
>>> >>>>>>>5: EDS irq 10
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>Onboard audio uses irq 12, Firewire controller uses irq 10,
>>> >>>>>>>ACPI controller uses irq 9.
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>Is this enough info?
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>Cheers,
>>> >>>>>>>Kim.
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>BTW why would my brand new 250 gb ata drive only have been
>>formatted
>>> >>>for
>>> >>>>>>>130gb during XP install? Only just noticed it.
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>What slots are each card in. Also, their manual didn't mention
>>what
>>> >>>>agp
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>uses for irq and whether it shares or not. Can't you tell on
> boot
>>> >>up
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>when that black resource screen shows what's on what?
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>It would be good to know if you have 4 or 5 independent IRQs
>>> >>>>>>>>2,3,4,1/5,agp
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>I run my 2 eds cards on the same IRQ 3 on my box.
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>John
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>Kim W. wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>> Just returned from "The Dungeon", and am happy to report that
>>> >>>>>>>>> all appears to be working.
>>> >>>>>>>>> (4 EDS's, 2 Nvidia Qudras).
>>> >>>>>>>>> Thus far I have no DX/VST plugins installed.
>>> >>>>>>>>> (In the past this is where my installs have come unstuck.)
>>> >>>>>>>>> After initial disappointment with the dreaded Crash-on-
>>> >>>>>>>>> exit, I remembered about the "minimum install" effects
>>> >>>>>>>>> subsystem
>>> >>fix,
>>> >>>>>>>with
>>> >>>>>>>>> wires.
>>> >>>>>>>>> Applying this seems to have cured the COE.
>>> >>>>>>>>> I'm pretty stoked at the moment, and have ghosted.
>>> >>>>>>>>> All slots are full, and there appears to be some sharing going
>>> on,(I
>>> >>>>>>attached
>>> >>>>>>>>> a screen grab)
>>> >>>>>>>>> but time will tell if it causes any problems. I just bunged
> all
>>> >>>>>>>>> four EDS's in, and let the system allocate resources as it
>>> >>>>>>>>> seemed fit.
>>> >>>>>>>>> I did, however, disable the SATA, and the parallel port in the
>>> bios.
>>> >>>>>>>>> Time for bed, as it's been 12 hours since I deemed it "Beer
>>O'clock".
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>It doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5,
>>> unless
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>that's
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>just assumed...? I know often 1 shares with AGP.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>Kim...........if PCI 1 and 5 "do not" share with the AGP, this
>>> is
>>> >>>>>>>>>>potentially a HUGE deal and this would be the most flexible
>>(semi
>>> >>>current)
>>> >>>>>>>>>>mobo in existence today for 939 CPU's. I cannot find any
>>reference
>>> >>>>to
>>> >>>>>>>this
>>> >>>>>>>>>>in the Gigabyte manual. When/if it is possible, could you
>>> >>>>>>>>>>insert
>>> >>a
>>> >>>>PCI
>>> >>>>>>>card
>>> >>>>>>>>>>in slot 1 or 5 (or both), then load the drivers for whatever
>>that
>>> >>>device
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> is,
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>then go to your system info, look under system resources,
>>navigate
>>> >>>>to
>>> >>>>>>>>>>hardware resources>IRQ and let us know if the device(s) in PCI
>>> slots
>>> >>>>>>1
>>> >>>>>>>or
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> 5
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>is/are sharing an IRQ with the AGP? If not, I'm gonna be
>>thinking
>>> >>>hard
>>> >>>>>>>about
>>> >>>>>>>>>>switching mobo's on my Paris rig and trying to get that
>>> >>>>>>>>>>duallie
>>> >CPU
>>> >>>>>>>>>>happening with my Paris rig. Theis could conceivably allow 5
> x
>>> EDS
>>> >>>>cards
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> to
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>operate on a dual core Athlon. I would do this here, but I
>>> >>>>>>>>>>don't
>>> >>have
>>> >>>>>>>all
>>> >>>>>>>>>>the componentry that I need yet and the ergonomics of moving
> all
>>> >>of
>>> >>>>>my
>>> >>>>>>>EDS
>>> >>>>>>>>>>cards to a Magma chassis (which is already being used by
>>> >>>>>>>>>>another
>>> >>DAW)
>>> >>>>>>>is
>>> >>>>>>>>>>something that would take my entire studio down for a couple
> of
>>> >days,
>>> >>>>>>>and
>>> >>>>>>>>>>I'm pretty busy right now.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>Deej
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:44afb30d$1@linux...
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Mine doesn't show that it's sharing with AGP, though 1 does
>>share
>>> >>>>with
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> 5.
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>It has a BIOS window you can go to which allows you to set
>>manually
>>> >>>>>>which
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>interrupt each slot uses, and tells you what will be sharing
>>with
>>> >>>>it
>>> >>>>>>>if
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>you
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>use that one. I have some things sharing, but everything is
>>working
>>> >>>>>>fine
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>so I'm not concerned. Firewire shares with an EDS for
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>example,
>>> >but
>>> >>>>>I
>>> >>>>>>>never
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>use Paris and firewire together so that's not really a
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>problem.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>It doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5,
>>> unless
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>that's
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>just assumed...? I know often 1 shares with AGP.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Kim.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>lack of interrupt control is a deal breaker for me
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>Kim wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>The biggest pitfall I found with the K8NS was that while
> the
>>> >manual
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>states
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>you have pretty good interrupt control, they actually
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>removed
>>> >>it
>>> >>>>>from
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>the
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>bios. The latest BIOS which gives you proper interrupt
>>control
>>> >>>(unless
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>they've
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>added it back - haven't checked for months) is version F6,
>>which
>>> >>>>>I
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> use.
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>It's
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>quite old but I haven't had any issues. The thing never
>>crashes.
>>> >>>>>It's
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>maybe
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>crashed once or twice since I've had it, which is about 12
>>months
>>> >>>>>>now.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>My motherboard seems to have a quirk in the BIOS and I'm
>>currently
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>running
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>on the backup BIOS on the board, but she runs fine like
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>that.
>>> >>It
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>forgets
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>HDD's on startup. Not sure why... (unless it's a quirk of
> the
>>> >>F6
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>firmware,
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>but that seems unlikely...)
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Apart from that though it's great. I run only a two card
>>system
>>> >>>>though,
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>and
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>only dual head video (A Nvidia card currently) but have had
>>> no
>>> >>>issues
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>apart
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>from the BIOS losing hdd's on startup which appears to be
> a
>>> MB
>>> >>>fault
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>(should
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>take it back before my warranty runs out...).
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>It's quick though, and very stable. I'm happy with it. :o)
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Kim.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Cheers.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hi, all.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with
> a
>>> >view
>>> >>>>>>to
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>upgrade
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>at some stage.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and
>>the
>>> >>>K8NS
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>is one of the fave mobos.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the
>>Gigabyte.)
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way
> as
>>> >>far
>>> >>>>>>as
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>which
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't
>>use,
>>> >>>>in
>>> >>>>>>>an
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>attempt
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card),
> and
>>> >four
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>C-16's.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Did it pan out for you??
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Kim #2.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ -----
>>-------
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>>
>>
>>
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| Re: BTW: Paris XP, K8NS ultra939...any pitfalls??..IT SEEMS NOT! (yet..) [message #70281 is a reply to message #70258] |
Thu, 13 July 2006 05:02 |
Kim W
Messages: 165
Registered: July 2006
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Hi, John.
No sound card, as all slots are full.
For any multimedia sound, I use the spdif out into my old Sony
DAT recorder.
The first two slots have the Nvidia Quadro dual heads.
(Obviously the first slot being the AGP, and the PCI version is
next to it.)
The other four PCI slots (The K8NS ultra 939 has five), have
my four EDS 1000 cards.
As mentioned, I disabled SATA, as I don't use it, and also the
parallel and game ports.
Firewire is active, so if I need to I can hook up my Maudio
Firewire Audiophile. (The K8NS has the Texas Instruments 1394
chipset, which is cool!).
RAM is generic 768mb DDR in DDR slots 1&3. (Dual channel would be
better ofcourse, but I used what I had in my old comp.)
Drives are Western Digital 2500JB (boot) and whatever else I have in my removeable
caddies (Mainly WD's), for audio. I use the boot
drive as backup storage for works in progress.
Nice and quick, as the two are on seperate IDE channels.
One thing I did initially during windows install, was to use a
single Nvidia MX400 geforce graphics card. After a flawless setup,
I then installed both Quadras with drivers, then the EDS's.
Yes, and I HAVE imaged every step of the way.
(Haven't had to roll-back yet.)
Now for MY favourite FZ quote:
"If it sounds good, it's BITCHEN', If it don't it's SHITTY!
Kim
"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>
>How about posting up your final config, what slots things are in, any
tweaks.
> Do you have a sound card? Ram, drive types, etc.
>
>Glad you're cooking with hot weasel grease ! Image that sucka !
>John
>
>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>
>>Well, after my first tracking session with the new comp, I am
>>(extremely) happy to report Paris XP is finally working for me.
>>It feels smoother, quicker, and more robust than ever before.
>>I did nothing as far as irq assigning, tweaks etc.
>>(I did disable the SATA,.. as I still use PATA, and also the parallel port.)
>>I'm running in APIC mode, (not standard PC),
>>I even bunged all four EDS's in at once, and let windows assign
>>resources as it seemed fit.
>>It's NEVER been this easy with any other comp. (I've been running
>>Paris pretty much since it was released...
>>starting with a 686 200 cyrix).
>>The IRQ sharing seems to have no negative effects, and both
>>dual-head Nvidia Quadras are happy.
>>To those thinking of upgrading their Paris boxes, grab one of
>>these mobos while/if you can, and XP3500+'s are cheap as chips
>>now.
>>Rave over :-))))
>>Kim W.
>>
>>
>>
>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>Good to hear. Keep us updated. :o)
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Kim.
>>>
>>>
>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>YEEHAH!!
>>>>This is ROCKIN!
>>>>After upping the cache sizes, I have a 64 track project playing
>>>>beautifully.
>>>>Everything feels snappy!
>>>>I can drag windows anywhare whilst playing without a hiccup!
>>>>(Couldn't do that with the '98 box.
>>>>I resized the drive using Acronis.
>>>>All looking good so far.
>>>>Now for the plugins....
>>>>Kim
>>>>
>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Did you format the drive using WinXP pre-SP1? I beleive that the installer
>>>>>for WinXP original version has an upper limit on hdd size... I ran
>into
>>>>>this with my 2 x 250Gigs...
>>>>>
>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>From the looks of your System Devices info vs what you posted there,
>>>you're
>>>>>>Hi again, Kim.
>>>>>>Just about to start fiddling again.
>>>>>>Gotta get my lost 120gb back. Would rather not reformat.
>>>>>>Also I need to arrange the drives so that my removeable (caddy)
>>>>>>drive becomes "E" again. Don't really want to reset filepaths
>>>>>>for all projects.
>>>>>>Will keep you posted.
>>>>>>Kim
>>>>>>
>>>>>>running in the default "ACPI Uniprocessor PC" mode, not standard PC
>mode.
>>>>>>>From my testing and talks with DJ this means that, unfortunately,
the
>>>>PCI
>>>>>>>configuration stuff in the BIOS doesn't actually function, which is
>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>why you'll
>>>>>>>find discrpencies between what you have configured in the BIOS (Which
>>>>I
>>>>>>assume
>>>>>>>is what you just listed) vs what you see in Windows.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>HOWEVER...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I suggest you just keep going. It is possible to switch to Standard
>>PC
>>>>>mode
>>>>>>>without a reinstall, though I have heard it can cause issues (never
>>has
>>>>>>for
>>>>>>>me though). Deej and I are interested to see if you can run your NVidia
>>>>>>cards
>>>>>>>sharing with the EDS cards on IRQs, as I suspect it will actually
work
>>>>>(it's
>>>>>>>working for me here fine).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Slot 1 is usually next to the AGP. If you go into the system device
>>manager
>>>>>>>IRQ screen and double click an item it tells you what slot things
are
>>>>in,
>>>>>>>so this may help you confirm.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On my system slot 4 on the MB seems to share with AGP, though that
>might
>>>>>>>be because that's how Windows decided to do it, not because they are
>>>hardwired...
>>>>>>> that's still up in the air.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>How's it going anyhow? Got it running? Is it stable?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Hi, John.
>>>>>>>>I can't see the PCI slot numbers on the mobo, (or in the manual),
>>>>>>>>but here is what I have in the slots starting from the one next
>>>>>>>>to the AGP slot, and the IRQ assignments in the black boot-up
>>>>>>>>screen:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>1: Nvidia Quadro PCI irq 11
>>>>>>>>2: EDS irq 9
>>>>>>>>3: EDS irq 7
>>>>>>>>4: EDS irq 5
>>>>>>>>5: EDS irq 10
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Onboard audio uses irq 12, Firewire controller uses irq 10,
>>>>>>>>ACPI controller uses irq 9.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Is this enough info?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>BTW why would my brand new 250 gb ata drive only have been formatted
>>>>for
>>>>>>>>130gb during XP install? Only just noticed it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>What slots are each card in. Also, their manual didn't mention
what
>>>>>agp
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>uses for irq and whether it shares or not. Can't you tell on boot
>>>up
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>when that black resource screen shows what's on what?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>It would be good to know if you have 4 or 5 independent IRQs
>>>>>>>>>2,3,4,1/5,agp
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I run my 2 eds cards on the same IRQ 3 on my box.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>John
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Kim W. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Just returned from "The Dungeon", and am happy to report that
>>>>>>>>>> all appears to be working.
>>>>>>>>>> (4 EDS's, 2 Nvidia Qudras).
>>>>>>>>>> Thus far I have no DX/VST plugins installed.
>>>>>>>>>> (In the past this is where my installs have come unstuck.)
>>>>>>>>>> After initial disappointment with the dreaded Crash-on-
>>>>>>>>>> exit, I remembered about the "minimum install" effects subsystem
>>>fix,
>>>>>>>>with
>>>>>>>>>> wires.
>>>>>>>>>> Applying this seems to have cured the COE.
>>>>>>>>>> I'm pretty stoked at the moment, and have ghosted.
>>>>>>>>>> All slots are full, and there appears to be some sharing going
>on,(I
>>>>>>>attached
>>>>>>>>>> a screen grab)
>>>>>>>>>> but time will tell if it causes any problems. I just bunged all
>>>>>>>>>> four EDS's in, and let the system allocate resources as it
>>>>>>>>>> seemed fit.
>>>>>>>>>> I did, however, disable the SATA, and the parallel port in the
>bios.
>>>>>>>>>> Time for bed, as it's been 12 hours since I deemed it "Beer O'clock".
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>It doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5,
>unless
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>that's
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>just assumed...? I know often 1 shares with AGP.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Kim...........if PCI 1 and 5 "do not" share with the AGP, this
>is
>>>>>>>>>>>potentially a HUGE deal and this would be the most flexible (semi
>>>>current)
>>>>>>>>>>>mobo in existence today for 939 CPU's. I cannot find any reference
>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>this
>>>>>>>>>>>in the Gigabyte manual. When/if it is possible, could you insert
>>>a
>>>>>PCI
>>>>>>>>card
>>>>>>>>>>>in slot 1 or 5 (or both), then load the drivers for whatever that
>>>>device
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> is,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>then go to your system info, look under system resources, navigate
>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>>hardware resources>IRQ and let us know if the device(s) in PCI
>slots
>>>>>>>1
>>>>>>>>or
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 5
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>is/are sharing an IRQ with the AGP? If not, I'm gonna be thinking
>>>>hard
>>>>>>>>about
>>>>>>>>>>>switching mobo's on my Paris rig and trying to get that duallie
>>CPU
>>>>>>>>>>>happening with my Paris rig. Theis could conceivably allow 5 x
>EDS
>>>>>cards
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>operate on a dual core Athlon. I would do this here, but I don't
>>>have
>>>>>>>>all
>>>>>>>>>>>the componentry that I need yet and the ergonomics of moving all
>>>of
>>>>>>my
>>>>>>>>EDS
>>>>>>>>>>>cards to a Magma chassis (which is already being used by another
>>>DAW)
>>>>>>>>is
>>>>>>>>>>>something that would take my entire studio down for a couple of
>>days,
>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>I'm pretty busy right now.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Deej
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:44afb30d$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Mine doesn't show that it's sharing with AGP, though 1 does share
>>>>>with
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 5.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>It has a BIOS window you can go to which allows you to set manually
>>>>>>>which
>>>>>>>>>>>>interrupt each slot uses, and tells you what will be sharing
with
>>>>>it
>>>>>>>>if
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>you
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>use that one. I have some things sharing, but everything is working
>>>>>>>fine
>>>>>>>>>>>>so I'm not concerned. Firewire shares with an EDS for example,
>>but
>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>never
>>>>>>>>>>>>use Paris and firewire together so that's not really a problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>It doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5,
>unless
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>that's
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>just assumed...? I know often 1 shares with AGP.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>lack of interrupt control is a deal breaker for me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Kim wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The biggest pitfall I found with the K8NS was that while the
>>manual
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>states
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>you have pretty good interrupt control, they actually removed
>>>it
>>>>>>from
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>bios. The latest BIOS which gives you proper interrupt control
>>>>(unless
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>they've
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>added it back - haven't checked for months) is version F6,
which
>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> use.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>It's
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>quite old but I haven't had any issues. The thing never crashes.
>>>>>>It's
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>maybe
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>crashed once or twice since I've had it, which is about 12
months
>>>>>>>now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>My motherboard seems to have a quirk in the BIOS and I'm currently
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>running
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>on the backup BIOS on the board, but she runs fine like that.
>>>It
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>forgets
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>HDD's on startup. Not sure why... (unless it's a quirk of the
>>>F6
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>firmware,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>but that seems unlikely...)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Apart from that though it's great. I run only a two card system
>>>>>though,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>only dual head video (A Nvidia card currently) but have had
>no
>>>>issues
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>apart
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>from the BIOS losing hdd's on startup which appears to be a
>MB
>>>>fault
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>(should
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>take it back before my warranty runs out...).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>It's quick though, and very stable. I'm happy with it. :o)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Cheers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hi, all.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with
a
>>view
>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>upgrade
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>at some stage.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and
the
>>>>K8NS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>is one of the fave mobos.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the
Gigabyte.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way
as
>>>far
>>>>>>>as
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>which
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't
use,
>>>>>in
>>>>>>>>an
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>attempt
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and
>>four
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>C-16's.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Did it pan out for you??
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Kim #2.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
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| Re: BTW: Paris XP, K8NS ultra939...any pitfalls??..IT SEEMS NOT! (yet..) [message #70283 is a reply to message #70281] |
Thu, 13 July 2006 05:17 |
Kim W
Messages: 165
Registered: July 2006
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BTW John,
In case you were referring to my actual Paris.cfg when you
asked about my final config, here is a cut/paste:
***************************
*** PARIS Configuration ***
***************************
*** ENGINE configuration parameters ***
* Cache Size in MB
CacheSize=40
* Overview cache size in KB
OvwCacheSize=8192
* I/O configuration
IOSize=96
* SubMix Cache Size in KB
SubMixCacheSize=256
ManualRecDelay=8192
RecXFadeLen=20
Use32BitWinMTC=0
DisableDirectX=0
MIDIPlayDisabled=1
MasterOutputCard=0
ScrubMaxRate=1
WheelSensitivity=20
WheelInertia=68
CSProVersion=EFGH
VSTDirectory=C:\Program Files\E-MU\PARIS Pro\Vstplugins\
Cheers.
"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>
>Hi, John.
>No sound card, as all slots are full.
>For any multimedia sound, I use the spdif out into my old Sony
>DAT recorder.
>The first two slots have the Nvidia Quadro dual heads.
>(Obviously the first slot being the AGP, and the PCI version is
>next to it.)
>The other four PCI slots (The K8NS ultra 939 has five), have
>my four EDS 1000 cards.
>As mentioned, I disabled SATA, as I don't use it, and also the
>parallel and game ports.
>Firewire is active, so if I need to I can hook up my Maudio
>Firewire Audiophile. (The K8NS has the Texas Instruments 1394
>chipset, which is cool!).
>RAM is generic 768mb DDR in DDR slots 1&3. (Dual channel would be
>better ofcourse, but I used what I had in my old comp.)
>Drives are Western Digital 2500JB (boot) and whatever else I have in my
removeable
>caddies (Mainly WD's), for audio. I use the boot
>drive as backup storage for works in progress.
>Nice and quick, as the two are on seperate IDE channels.
>
>One thing I did initially during windows install, was to use a
>single Nvidia MX400 geforce graphics card. After a flawless setup,
>I then installed both Quadras with drivers, then the EDS's.
>Yes, and I HAVE imaged every step of the way.
>(Haven't had to roll-back yet.)
>
>Now for MY favourite FZ quote:
>
>"If it sounds good, it's BITCHEN', If it don't it's SHITTY!
>
>Kim
>
>
>"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>
>>How about posting up your final config, what slots things are in, any
>tweaks.
>> Do you have a sound card? Ram, drive types, etc.
>>
>>Glad you're cooking with hot weasel grease ! Image that sucka !
>>John
>>
>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Well, after my first tracking session with the new comp, I am
>>>(extremely) happy to report Paris XP is finally working for me.
>>>It feels smoother, quicker, and more robust than ever before.
>>>I did nothing as far as irq assigning, tweaks etc.
>>>(I did disable the SATA,.. as I still use PATA, and also the parallel
port.)
>>>I'm running in APIC mode, (not standard PC),
>>>I even bunged all four EDS's in at once, and let windows assign
>>>resources as it seemed fit.
>>>It's NEVER been this easy with any other comp. (I've been running
>>>Paris pretty much since it was released...
>>>starting with a 686 200 cyrix).
>>>The IRQ sharing seems to have no negative effects, and both
>>>dual-head Nvidia Quadras are happy.
>>>To those thinking of upgrading their Paris boxes, grab one of
>>>these mobos while/if you can, and XP3500+'s are cheap as chips
>>>now.
>>>Rave over :-))))
>>>Kim W.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Good to hear. Keep us updated. :o)
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>>Kim.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>YEEHAH!!
>>>>>This is ROCKIN!
>>>>>After upping the cache sizes, I have a 64 track project playing
>>>>>beautifully.
>>>>>Everything feels snappy!
>>>>>I can drag windows anywhare whilst playing without a hiccup!
>>>>>(Couldn't do that with the '98 box.
>>>>>I resized the drive using Acronis.
>>>>>All looking good so far.
>>>>>Now for the plugins....
>>>>>Kim
>>>>>
>>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Did you format the drive using WinXP pre-SP1? I beleive that the installer
>>>>>>for WinXP original version has an upper limit on hdd size... I ran
>>into
>>>>>>this with my 2 x 250Gigs...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>From the looks of your System Devices info vs what you posted there,
>>>>you're
>>>>>>>Hi again, Kim.
>>>>>>>Just about to start fiddling again.
>>>>>>>Gotta get my lost 120gb back. Would rather not reformat.
>>>>>>>Also I need to arrange the drives so that my removeable (caddy)
>>>>>>>drive becomes "E" again. Don't really want to reset filepaths
>>>>>>>for all projects.
>>>>>>>Will keep you posted.
>>>>>>>Kim
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>running in the default "ACPI Uniprocessor PC" mode, not standard PC
>>mode.
>>>>>>>>From my testing and talks with DJ this means that, unfortunately,
>the
>>>>>PCI
>>>>>>>>configuration stuff in the BIOS doesn't actually function, which
is
>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>why you'll
>>>>>>>>find discrpencies between what you have configured in the BIOS (Which
>>>>>I
>>>>>>>assume
>>>>>>>>is what you just listed) vs what you see in Windows.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>HOWEVER...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I suggest you just keep going. It is possible to switch to Standard
>>>PC
>>>>>>mode
>>>>>>>>without a reinstall, though I have heard it can cause issues (never
>>>has
>>>>>>>for
>>>>>>>>me though). Deej and I are interested to see if you can run your
NVidia
>>>>>>>cards
>>>>>>>>sharing with the EDS cards on IRQs, as I suspect it will actually
>work
>>>>>>(it's
>>>>>>>>working for me here fine).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Slot 1 is usually next to the AGP. If you go into the system device
>>>manager
>>>>>>>>IRQ screen and double click an item it tells you what slot things
>are
>>>>>in,
>>>>>>>>so this may help you confirm.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On my system slot 4 on the MB seems to share with AGP, though that
>>might
>>>>>>>>be because that's how Windows decided to do it, not because they
are
>>>>hardwired...
>>>>>>>> that's still up in the air.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>How's it going anyhow? Got it running? Is it stable?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Hi, John.
>>>>>>>>>I can't see the PCI slot numbers on the mobo, (or in the manual),
>>>>>>>>>but here is what I have in the slots starting from the one next
>>>>>>>>>to the AGP slot, and the IRQ assignments in the black boot-up
>>>>>>>>>screen:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>1: Nvidia Quadro PCI irq 11
>>>>>>>>>2: EDS irq 9
>>>>>>>>>3: EDS irq 7
>>>>>>>>>4: EDS irq 5
>>>>>>>>>5: EDS irq 10
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Onboard audio uses irq 12, Firewire controller uses irq 10,
>>>>>>>>>ACPI controller uses irq 9.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Is this enough info?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>BTW why would my brand new 250 gb ata drive only have been formatted
>>>>>for
>>>>>>>>>130gb during XP install? Only just noticed it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>What slots are each card in. Also, their manual didn't mention
>what
>>>>>>agp
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>uses for irq and whether it shares or not. Can't you tell on boot
>>>>up
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>when that black resource screen shows what's on what?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>It would be good to know if you have 4 or 5 independent IRQs
>>>>>>>>>>2,3,4,1/5,agp
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I run my 2 eds cards on the same IRQ 3 on my box.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>John
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Kim W. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Just returned from "The Dungeon", and am happy to report that
>>>>>>>>>>> all appears to be working.
>>>>>>>>>>> (4 EDS's, 2 Nvidia Qudras).
>>>>>>>>>>> Thus far I have no DX/VST plugins installed.
>>>>>>>>>>> (In the past this is where my installs have come unstuck.)
>>>>>>>>>>> After initial disappointment with the dreaded Crash-on-
>>>>>>>>>>> exit, I remembered about the "minimum install" effects subsystem
>>>>fix,
>>>>>>>>>with
>>>>>>>>>>> wires.
>>>>>>>>>>> Applying this seems to have cured the COE.
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm pretty stoked at the moment, and have ghosted.
>>>>>>>>>>> All slots are full, and there appears to be some sharing going
>>on,(I
>>>>>>>>attached
>>>>>>>>>>> a screen grab)
>>>>>>>>>>> but time will tell if it causes any problems. I just bunged all
>>>>>>>>>>> four EDS's in, and let the system allocate resources as it
>>>>>>>>>>> seemed fit.
>>>>>>>>>>> I did, however, disable the SATA, and the parallel port in the
>>bios.
>>>>>>>>>>> Time for bed, as it's been 12 hours since I deemed it "Beer O'clock".
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>It doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5,
>>unless
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>that's
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>just assumed...? I know often 1 shares with AGP.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Kim...........if PCI 1 and 5 "do not" share with the AGP, this
>>is
>>>>>>>>>>>>potentially a HUGE deal and this would be the most flexible (semi
>>>>>current)
>>>>>>>>>>>>mobo in existence today for 939 CPU's. I cannot find any reference
>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>this
>>>>>>>>>>>>in the Gigabyte manual. When/if it is possible, could you insert
>>>>a
>>>>>>PCI
>>>>>>>>>card
>>>>>>>>>>>>in slot 1 or 5 (or both), then load the drivers for whatever
that
>>>>>device
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> is,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>then go to your system info, look under system resources, navigate
>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>>>hardware resources>IRQ and let us know if the device(s) in PCI
>>slots
>>>>>>>>1
>>>>>>>>>or
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 5
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>is/are sharing an IRQ with the AGP? If not, I'm gonna be thinking
>>>>>hard
>>>>>>>>>about
>>>>>>>>>>>>switching mobo's on my Paris rig and trying to get that duallie
>>>CPU
>>>>>>>>>>>>happening with my Paris rig. Theis could conceivably allow 5
x
>>EDS
>>>>>>cards
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>operate on a dual core Athlon. I would do this here, but I don't
>>>>have
>>>>>>>>>all
>>>>>>>>>>>>the componentry that I need yet and the ergonomics of moving
all
>>>>of
>>>>>>>my
>>>>>>>>>EDS
>>>>>>>>>>>>cards to a Magma chassis (which is already being used by another
>>>>DAW)
>>>>>>>>>is
>>>>>>>>>>>>something that would take my entire studio down for a couple
of
>>>days,
>>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>>I'm pretty busy right now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Deej
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:44afb30d$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Mine doesn't show that it's sharing with AGP, though 1 does
share
>>>>>>with
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 5.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>It has a BIOS window you can go to which allows you to set manually
>>>>>>>>which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>interrupt each slot uses, and tells you what will be sharing
>with
>>>>>>it
>>>>>>>>>if
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>you
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>use that one. I have some things sharing, but everything is
working
>>>>>>>>fine
>>>>>>>>>>>>>so I'm not concerned. Firewire shares with an EDS for example,
>>>but
>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>never
>>>>>>>>>>>>>use Paris and firewire together so that's not really a problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>It doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5,
>>unless
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>that's
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>just assumed...? I know often 1 shares with AGP.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>lack of interrupt control is a deal breaker for me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Kim wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The biggest pitfall I found with the K8NS was that while the
>>>manual
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>states
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>you have pretty good interrupt control, they actually removed
>>>>it
>>>>>>>from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>bios. The latest BIOS which gives you proper interrupt control
>>>>>(unless
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>they've
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>added it back - haven't checked for months) is version F6,
>which
>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> use.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>It's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>quite old but I haven't had any issues. The thing never crashes.
>>>>>>>It's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>maybe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>crashed once or twice since I've had it, which is about 12
>months
>>>>>>>>now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>My motherboard seems to have a quirk in the BIOS and I'm currently
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>running
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>on the backup BIOS on the board, but she runs fine like that.
>>>>It
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>forgets
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>HDD's on startup. Not sure why... (unless it's a quirk of
the
>>>>F6
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>firmware,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>but that seems unlikely...)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Apart from that though it's great. I run only a two card system
>>>>>>though,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>only dual head video (A Nvidia card currently) but have had
>>no
>>>>>issues
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>apart
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>from the BIOS losing hdd's on startup which appears to be
a
>>MB
>>>>>fault
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>(should
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>take it back before my warranty runs out...).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>It's quick though, and very stable. I'm happy with it. :o)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Cheers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hi, all.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with
>a
>>>view
>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>upgrade
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>at some stage.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and
>the
>>>>>K8NS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>is one of the fave mobos.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the
>Gigabyte.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way
>as
>>>>far
>>>>>>>>as
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>which
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't
>use,
>>>>>>in
>>>>>>>>>an
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>attempt
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and
>>>four
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>C-16's.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Did it pan out for you??
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Kim #2.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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