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Re: West Nile virus???-it looks pretty grim around here [message #62150 is a reply to message #62145] |
Sat, 31 December 2005 14:16 |
Deej [1]
Messages: 2149 Registered: January 2006
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I'm up and about...bracing for a 44C degree day...9.20am and it's =
already=20
31C
Happy New Year to you all
--=20
Martin Harrington
www.lendanear-sound.com
"DC" <dc@spamdickclark.org> wrote in message news:43b6feb0$1@linux...
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> You Ozzies are probably sleeping it off already.
>
> Here in SoCal, it's a good time to stay off the freeways.
>
> And, psst, no one in NYC actually goes to Times Square; it's all
> tourists from Jersey!
>
> To each and every one of you, may your new year be filled with
> happiness, better music, and even better recordings!
>
> DC=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Playing tonight for 6 hours starting at =
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<DIV>"Martin Harrington" <<A=20
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Are you talking Apple Lossless or the highest AAC?
Thanks,
Pete
"cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote:
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>
>We select highest quality.,
>Pretty good, I'd do full Aiff, but it is my wife's, she wants more tunes
>at work.
>
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>"Jpmoss" <jp@ncounty.net> wrote:
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>> I use full aiff files.
>> I use Itunes as my main Play back at home so i want the best sound I have
>>a pc the I riged with a emu 1404 through a bench mark. I dont buy song
from
>>Itunes as I find it wrong to charge top dooler for files that are less
in
>>quility than cd. j"Pete Ruthenburg" <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Just got a 60gig Ipod and I'm going to start importing my cd
>>>collection tonight.Just wondering which formats are used most and
>>>which bit rates.Seems like AAC might be the way to go.I could
>>>also see doing a mixture of AAC and Wavs or Apple Lossless.
>>> One thing that confused me;it says Apple Lossless gives you the
>>>same quality as AIFF and Wav,but is half the size.Can it really
>>>be the same quality in half the size?
>>>
>>> Anyw
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Re: West Nile virus???-it looks pretty grim around here [message #62185 is a reply to message #62150] |
Sun, 01 January 2006 09:34 |
uptown jimmy
Messages: 441 Registered: September 2005
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gt; should look like similar to
> > "multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
> > Professional" /3GB /fastdetect...."
> > 9. If you have a UAD-1 card, you also need to add "/Userva=2900" after
the
> > /3GB switch, so it should look like similar to
> > "multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
> > Professional" /3GB /Userva=2900 /fastdetect...."
> > 10. Save the modified boot.ini file
> > 11. Reboot
> >
> > I tried this switch before and it didn't work for me. I found out it was
> > because I had a UAD-1 card and I didn't have the "/Userva=2900" switch
in
> > there. Now it works just fine for me. Now I can go past the ~1.3GB
> > threshold without crashes. This should also work for any sampler
(Halion,
> > Kontakt, etc.).
> >
> > If upon reboot your system is sluggish and nearly useless, just open
your
> > boot.ini file and take the switch(es) back out, save it, and reboot.
Also
> > don't forget to replace the Nuendo3.exe file with the backup you
created.
> >
> > Hope it helps
> >
> > Happy new-year
> >
> > Jorsi
> >
> > "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> skrev i en meddelelse
> > news:43b6d24b@linux...
> >> And remember to tell
> >>> windows to use more than 3gigs of ram.
> >>
> >> What if I tell it and it refuses? Is there some way I can force it to
do
> >> this whether it likes it or not? If so, how?
> >>
> >> ;o)
> >>
> >>
> >> "Jorsi" <studios@greennet.gl> wrote in message news:43b68078@linux...
> >>> Sometimes the DVD/CD-drives don't like to be secondary slave, maybe
you
> >>> should get an firmware-update for your DVD-drive. And remember to tell
> >>> windows to use more than 3gigs of ram.
> >>> make sure you are using a good ide-cable
> >>> hope it helps
> >>> Jorsi
> >>>
> >>> "Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> skrev i en meddelelse
> >>> news:43b56d2a$1@linux...
> >>> > Speak English DJ! Oh, never mind. I forgot I was a Mac guy for
second
> >>> > there! ;>)
> >>> >
> >>> > Tony
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> >>> > news:43b4c491@linux...
> >>> >> It gets wierder. I just shuffled the drives. I hung the DVDR on IDE
2
> >> as
> >>> >> master and the sample drive as IDE2 slave. Now IDE2 master mode is
> >>> >> showing
> >>> >> up DMA2 and the sample drive is DMA5. I don't know enough about
this
> >>> >> situation to know if the DMA2 on the IDE2 master will bottleneck
the
> >>> >> sample
> >>> >> drive, or not, but right now, it's streaming samples from BFD
without
> >>> >> breathing hard at all. Are all computers this bizarre or just *my*
> >>> >> computers?
> >>> >>
> >>> >> ;oP
> >>> >>
> >>> >> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> >>> >> news:43b4a4f1$1@linux...
> >>> >>> I think I may have a defective mobo. I've been chasing too many
> >>> >>> gremlins.
> >>> >>> I've managed to kill off all but two, as follows-
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> 1. Gremlin #1-I have a 400G drive dedicated to samples. It's a
> >>> >>> 7200RPM
> >>> >>> Seagate Barracuda and is IDE2 master. All of my samples for BFD
are
> >>> >>> on
> >>> >> this
> >>> >>> drive. All will be well for a couple of days and then suddenly,
for
> >>> >>> no
> >>> >>> discernable reason, BFD loses the ability to load and stream
samples
> >>> >>> with
> >>> >>> any speed at all. CPU usage goes to around 50% and life just plain
> >>> >>> sucks.
> >>> >>> Restoring a Ghost of my system drive wherein BFD was working
> >>> >>> properly
> >>> >> prior
> >>> >>> to the Ghosting will fix the problem.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> I'm wondering if maybe DMA isn't enabled or there is some bus
> >> mastering
> >>> >>> wierdness happening. I can't find the DMA or bus mastering options
> >>> >> anywhere.
> >>> >>> I'm running win XPSP1a with DX9 installed. Where the heck do I
check
> >>> >>> this?
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> 2. Gremlin #2-I've got 4 x matched 1G RAM sticks. This is good
CAS2
> >>> >> Corsair
> >>> >>> XMS stuff. They all are functioning normally in pairs and three
at
> >>> >>> a
> >>> >> time.
> >>> >>> Any three sticks will show up in any three of my RAM
slots......plus
> >>> >>> I
> >>> >> have
> >>> >>> tested all of them singly to make sure they show up and are doing
> >>> >>> the
> >>> >> things
> >>> >>> that RAM is supposed to do. However, after adding all four RAM
> >>> >>> sticks
> >> to
> >>> >> the
> >>> >>> 4 x RAM slots on the mobo, only 3 gigs of system memory shows up.
I
> >> have
> >>> >>> tested every RAM slot in the mobo individually in singles, pairs
and
> >>> >>> configurations of three and all four of the slots work fine, but
> >>> >>> when
> >> a
> >>> >>> fourth RAM stick is added, only three G of RAM are available as
> >>> >>> system
> >>> >>> memory. This su
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Re: West Nile virus???-it looks pretty grim around here [message #62189 is a reply to message #62185] |
Sun, 01 January 2006 12:06 |
Deej [1]
Messages: 2149 Registered: January 2006
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<DIV>"DJ" <<A=20
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href=3D"mailto:animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net">animix_spam-this-ahole=
_@animas.net</A>>=20
wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:43b6f3e8$1@linux">news:43b6f3e8$1@linux</A>...</DIV>I've =
been=20
puttering around inthe yard today doing this and that. There =
are<BR>dead=20
birds all over the place. It's not from cold. These birds =
are<BR>year=20
-round species and it hasn't been cold enough to hurt these=20
little<BR>critters. This looks like a classic West Nile die=20
off.......either that or<BR>our little cat has been working =
triple=20
overtime (she's a major predator, but<BR>this is too much, even =
for=20
her). Strange that it should happen at this time<BR>of year =
though. It's=20
too cold for mosquitoes. I wonder if the infection can<BR>lie =
dormant=20
and then pop up later. We've called the health=20
=
department.<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE ></BLOCKQUOTE></=
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------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C60ED4.24FAA720--Never mind...it's the ROM SIMM boards that are missing
Don
"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:43b7e9d5@linux...
>I have a line on a B3 module on ebay but it comes without any ROM cards.
>
> My question is can I load this with sounds (from a music store) and then
> walk away or do the ROM cards need to be in the unit for it to play sounds
>
> Don
>Woa...what a party last night. Only about 20 of us but holy moly did we
have fun. It was our "canadian xmas" combined...which ended only a few
minutes ago (4:30est)...lol....
I hope you all had a great time and that your new year brings you much
happiness.
jef
DC wrote:
>You Ozzies are probably sleeping it off already.
>
>Here in SoCal, it's a good time to stay off the freeways.
>
>And, psst, no one in NYC actually goes to Times Square; it's all
>tourists from Jersey!
>
>To each and every one of you, may your new year be filled with
>happiness, better music, and even better recordings!
>
>DC
>
>Happy New Year to you too!
Greenland. wow. I did not know there were any Paris users there.
If this is your first time here, let me say welcome!
Don
"Jorsi" <studios@greennet.gl> wrote:
>Happy New Year to all from Greenland.
>Jorsi
>
>"DC" <dc@spamdickclark.org> skrev i en meddelelse news:43b6feb0$1@linux...
>>
>> You Ozzies are probably sleeping it off already.
>>
>> Here in SoCal, it's a good time to stay off the freeways.
>>
>> And, psst, no one in NYC actually goes to Times Square; it's all
>> tourists from Jersey!
>>
>> To each and every one of you, may your new year be filled with
>> happiness, better music, and even better recordings!
>>
>> DC
>
>I've been with you for many years, I got my paris in 98
Jorsi
"DC" <dc@spamdickclark.com> skrev i en meddelelse news:43b8539f$1@linux...
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> Happy New Year to you too!
>
> Greenland. wow. I did not know there were any Paris users there.
>
> If this is your first time here, let me say welcome!
>
> Don
>
>
> "Jorsi" <studios@greennet.gl> wrote:
>>Happy New Year to all from Greenland.
>>Jorsi
>>
>>"DC" <dc@spamdickclark.org> skrev i en meddelelse news:43b6feb0$1@linux...
>>>
>>> You Ozzies are probably sleeping it off already.
>>>
>>> Here in SoCal, it's a good time to stay off the freeways.
>>>
>>> And, psst, no one in NYC actually goes to Times Square; it's all
>>> tourists from Jersey!
>>>
>>> To each and every one of you, may your new year be filled with
>>> happiness, better music, and even better recordings!
>>>
>>> DC
>>
>>
>So, how was New Years Day in Greenland?
DC
"Jorsi" <studios@greennet.gl> wrote:
>I've been with you for many years, I got my paris in 98
>
>Jorsi
>
>"DC" <dc@spamdickclark.com> skrev i en meddelelse news:43b8539f$1@linux...
>>
>> Happy New Year to you too!
>>
>> Greenland. wow. I did not know there were any Paris users there.
>>
>> If this is your first time here, let me say welcome!
>>
>> Don
>>
>>
>> "Jorsi" <studios@greennet.gl> wrote:
>>>Happy New Year to all from Greenland.
>>>Jorsi
>>>
>>>"DC" <dc@spamdickclark.org> skrev i en meddelelse news:43b6feb0$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> You Ozzies are probably sleeping it off already.
>>>>
>>>> Here in SoCal, it's a good time to stay off the freeways.
>>>>
>>>> And, psst, no one in NYC actually goes to Times Square; it's all
>>>> tourists from Jersey!
>>>>
>>>> To each and every one of you, may your new year be filled with
>>>> happiness, better music, and even better recordings!
>>>>
>>>> DC
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>I am really amazed as what Chainer can do with Paris.
Not only it is a very very stable VST chainer that can load and save its
own presets of your vst's on specific Paris tracks with exact vst own presets
on a push of a button but it can be handy for other things too.
One great thing is to use Chainer to achieve the "New York" type of mixing.
Means to have the unprocessed and the processed (heavily compressed and eq'ed)
version of the audio tracks at the same "no latency"
Of course for this you will be needing 0 latency VST compressors but most
of the VST compressors available including many freeones are 0 latency.
C1 from Waves (not Rcomp )
Dave Brown comp
Sonalksis
TC works from TC electronics
mda comp
D_limiter
Camelphatfree
Classic compressor
Neodynium
etc
You can easily check if your favoured comp is 0 latency.
T-racks are not 0 latency (64 samples) same as Rcomp from waves.
Now inside Chainer you do the following.
Put an input module on first slot.
Then your comp on second slot
Your EQ on third slot
Compress heavily and eq to taste...
Then put AGAIN on fourth slot the input module.
This adds again the "dry" sound along with your processed.
You can only imagine what you can do.
Thre-four compressors to really smash your sound then your EQ (all eq's are
0 latency) you can use here the Paris VST eq if you like...
Thus by trimming the volumes you can add more or less dry or wet sound...
If you wanna do it on more than one drumtrack copy the chainer preset to
have the exact processing...
If you wanna use DX inside Chainer just use the free FFX-4 DX chainer to
have your DX along with your vst's and save all of them under the same Chainer
preset.!
Happy New Year
DimitriosIt was cold and sunny, not much wind. It was nice with all the fireworks.
Had a nice dinner with my family and listened to some good old music, had a
lot of fun.
Jorsi
"DC" <dc@spamdickclark.com> skrev i en meddelelse news:43b85b54$1@linux...
>
> So, how was New Years Day in Greenland?
>
> DC
>
>
> "Jorsi" <studios@greennet.gl> wrote:
>>I've been with you for many years, I got my paris in 98
>>
>>Jorsi
>>
>>"DC" <dc@spamdickclark.com> skrev i en meddelelse news:43b8539f$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Happy New Year to you too!
>>>
>>> Greenland. wow. I did not know there were any Paris users there.
>>>
>>> If this is your first time here, let me say welcome!
>>>
>>> Don
>>>
>>>
>>> "Jorsi" <studios@greennet.gl> wrote:
>>>>Happy New Year to all from Greenland.
>>>>Jorsi
>>>>
>>>>"DC" <dc@spamdickclark.org> skrev i en meddelelse
>>>>news:43b6feb0$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> You Ozzies are probably sleeping it off already.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here in SoCal, it's a good time to stay off the freeways.
>>>>>
>>>>> And, psst, no one in NYC actually goes to Times Square; it's all
>>>>> tourists from Jersey!
>>>>>
>>>>> To each and every one of you, may your new year be filled with
>>>>> happiness, better music, and even better recordings!
>>>>>
>>>>> DC
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: West Nile virus???-it looks pretty grim around here [message #62197 is a reply to message #62189] |
Sun, 01 January 2006 16:54 |
uptown jimmy
Messages: 441 Registered: September 2005
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life in the tropics and having survived some pretty nasty bugs, =
I've got a=20
pretty strong constitution/immune system. Summer of 2003 I got =
really sick=20
for a few days. Never felt anything like it before, but then it =
cleared=20
up. </FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>No self respecting bug =
hangs around me=20
for long, but I worry a lot about my wife.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Deej,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I hope you're =
wrong.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"DJ" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net">animix_spam-this-ahole=
_@animas.net</A>>=20
wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:43b6f3e8$1@linux">news:43b6f3e8$1@linux</A>...</DIV>I've=20
been puttering around inthe yard today doing this and that. =
There=20
are<BR>dead birds all over the place. It's not from cold. =
These birds=20
are<BR>year -round species and it hasn't been cold enough to =
hurt=20
these little<BR>critters. This looks like a classic West Nile =
die=20
off.......either that or<BR>our little cat has been working =
triple=20
overtime (she's a major predator, but<BR>this is too much, =
even for=20
her). Strange that it should happen at this time<BR>of year =
though.=20
It's too cold for mosquitoes. I wonder if the infection =
can<BR>lie=20
dormant and then pop up later. We've called the health=20
=
department.<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE ></BLOCKQUOTE></=
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------=_NextPart_000_002F_01C60F0D.269ECA50--Thanks for the info Dimitrios do you have a link to this chainer and ff4 you
mentioned?
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>
>I am really amazed as what Chainer can do with Paris.
>Not only it is a very very stable VST chainer that can load and save its
>own presets of your vst's on specific Paris tracks with exact vst own presets
>on a push of a button but it can be handy for other things too.
>One great thing is to use Chainer to achieve the "New York" type of mixing.
>Means to have the unprocessed and the processed (heavily compressed and
eq'ed)
>version of the audio tracks at the same "no latency"
>Of course for this you will be needing 0 latency VST compressors but most
>of the VST compressors available including many freeones are 0 latency.
>C1 from Waves (not Rcomp )
>Dave Brown comp
>Sonalksis
>TC works from TC electronics
>mda comp
>D_limiter
>Camelphatfree
>Classic compressor
>Neodynium
>etc
>
>You can easily check if your favoured comp is 0 latency.
>T-racks are not 0 latency (64 samples) same as Rcomp from waves.
>
>Now inside Chainer you do the following.
>Put an input module on first slot.
>Then your comp on second slot
>Your EQ on third slot
>Compress heavily and eq to taste...
>Then put AGAIN on fourth slot the input module.
>This adds again the "dry" sound along with your processed.
>You can only imagine what you can do.
>Thre-four compressors to really smash your sound then your EQ (all eq's
are
>0 latency) you can use here the Paris VST eq if you like...
>Thus by trimming the volumes you can add more or less dry or wet sound...
>If you wanna do it on more than one drumtrack copy the chainer preset to
>have the exact processing...
>If you wanna use DX inside Chainer just use the free FFX-4 DX chainer to
>have your DX along with your vst's and save all of them under the same Chainer
>preset.!
>Happy New Year
>Dimitrios
>This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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Like I said earlier.......no self respecting bug will live in my body.
;o)
"uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message =
news:43b87a51$1@linux...
Hmmmmmm... partying like a Roman as vaccination plan....
I like you more and more all the time.
Jimmy
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message =
news:43b8370c@linux...
Pack your bags and go here:
http://community-2.webtv.net/ivanjay/IVANJSNAVELYHOMEPORT/
Stay for about 3-6 months. If you survive the malaria, dengue fever, =
staph, intestinal parisites, wild dogs that roam the beach in packs at =
night, violent drunks, violent drug dealers, corrupt police and soldiers =
and the incredibly deadly undertow right off the beach, nothing will be =
able to kill you except perhaps yourself or your wife/better half, of =
course.
Last time I was there I arrived on New Years Eve 1994. We partied =
until early AM and were lying naked as a bunch of jaybirds on the beach =
the next morning when the helicopter gunships flew over on their way to =
put down the Zapatista uprising.
Fun place actually.........
;o)
"uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message =
news:43b81324@linux...
I've always been a pathetic, sickly thing. If any of these bugs =
gets to GA, I'm in trouble....
Jimmy
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message =
news:43b7041e$1@linux...
It's very prevalent in this area. We've had our horses =
vaccinated, but there is no vaccination for humans. People have died =
around here from this. I know a couple of folks who caught it a couple =
of years ago and are still sick. Having lived a good part of my life in =
the tropics and having survived some pretty nasty bugs, I've got a =
pretty strong constitution/immune system. Summer of 2003 I got really =
sick for a few days. Never felt anything like it before, but then it =
cleared up. No self respecting bug hangs around me for long, but I worry =
a lot about my wife.
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:43b6f6fb@linux...
Deej,
I hope you're wrong.
Tom
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message =
news:43b6f3e8$1@linux...
I've been puttering around inthe yard today doing this and =
that. There are
dead birds all over the place. It's not from cold. These =
birds are
year -round species and it hasn't been cold enough to hurt =
these little
critters. This looks like a classic West Nile die =
off.......either that or
our little cat has been working triple overtime (she's a =
major predator, but
this is too much, even for her). Strange that it should =
happen at this time
of year though. It's too cold for mosquitoes. I wonder if =
the infection can
lie dormant and then pop up later. We've called the health =
department.
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Pack your bags and go =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I've always been a pathetic, =
sickly thing. If=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jimmy</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It's very prevalent in this =
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really=20
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then it=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Deej,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I hope you're =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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much,=20
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behind the wheel while dodging the drunks was a bit much to hang
out and play "Old Time Rock n' Roll" again...
grrrr
Here in Riverside, (southern California) is was warm and very noisy
with the neighbors just blasting Mexican music for 4 hours.
I like some of that stuff, but not the rap... But they never complain
when I blast the Marshall amp, so I did not complain either.
Felt guilty for not going out. Well, not that guilty. Hung with
the family, went to bed at 12:15.
And you know what? It's 2006 and we all survived!
best
DC
"Jorsi" <studios@greennet.gl> wrote:
>It was cold and sunny, not much wind. It was nice with all the fireworks.
>Had a nice dinner with my family and listened to some good old music, had
a
>lot of fun.
>
>Jorsi
>
>"DC" <dc@spamdickclark.com> skrev i en meddelelse news:43b85b54$1@linux...
>>
>> So, how was New Years Day in Greenland?
>>
>> DC
>>
>>
>> "Jorsi" <studios@greennet.gl> wrote:
>>>I've been with you for many years, I got my paris in 98
>>>
>>>Jorsi
>>>
>>>"DC" <dc@spamdickclark.com> skrev i en meddelelse news:43b8539f$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Happy New Year to you too!
>>>>
>>>> Greenland. wow. I did not know there were any Paris users there.
>>>>
>>>> If this is your first time here, let me say welcome!
>>>>
>>>> Don
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Jorsi" <studios@greennet.gl> wrote:
>>>>>Happy New Year to all from Greenland.
>>>>>Jorsi
>>>>>
>>>>>"DC" <dc@spamdickclark.org> skrev i en meddelelse
>>>>>news:43b6feb0$1@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You Ozzies are probably sleeping it off already.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here in SoCal, it's a good time to stay off the freeways.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And, psst, no one in NYC actually goes to Times Square; it's all
>>>>>> tourists from Jersey!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To each and every one of you, may your new year be filled with
>>>>>> happiness, better music, and even better recordings!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> DC
>>>>>
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>>>>
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>
>Hey Deej, did you get "Patches"?
Have fun last night?
DCI just set up my network connections between both my DAWs. They are seeing
each other's HD's and I have unrestricted sharing set. However, I can't
transfer files from my Paris DAW anymore. For some reason, even though the
folders are set up for sharing, the sub directories and the folders within
these subdirectories have somehow been set to where I have to go into every
subdirectory level and set each folder to share. This machine is running
Windows ME. I have literally hundreds of subdirectories and sub-sub
directories within my main directories. How could this happen? Prior to
hooking up this new DAW, I just set my main directories to share on both
machines and I could shuttle stuff back and forth all day long. The current
situation sucks most seriously..........(sigh)..........what else can
happen????.......wait.........don't answer that!!!!I'm fairly sure it's too late, but, anyway, we were recording a gaming
session (long story) using PARIS and the game ran around 5 hours. We went
to dinner, I forgot to stop the recording, and only much later looked at the
screen to see an assertion error at 6 hrs, 45 minutes into it. I clicked
the acknowledging button and then was shocked to see no file at all had been
written, and no apparent hidden file that I could tell was anywhere. Anyone
know any way to recover this, if at all possible?This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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Rendering Cubase SX files for PARIS importYou just select a track go to =
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from paris first or run wavelab and make the paf file a wav file.
Dan
"Craig Mitchell" <camitchell@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message =
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My drummer has a new Cubase SX based DAW and I'd like to clarify how =
to render a track so I can import it into my PARIS system.=20
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However, looking through the Cubase manual, I have not seen the PARIS =
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Many thanks!
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before clicking on the assertion message I can't help.
Did you check the folder where the record path was set to?
Have you shut down your computer?
Hopefully one of our more computer savey guys will chime in with some good
news
Don
"zornwil" <wilson.zorn@takeout_asterick_theobvious.com> wrote in message
news:43b8dab7$1@linux...
> I'm fairly sure it's too late, but, anyway, we were recording a gaming
> session (long story) using PARIS and the game ran around 5 hours. We went
> to dinner, I forgot to stop the recording, and only much later looked at
> the
> screen to see an assertion error at 6 hrs, 45 minutes into it. I clicked
> the acknowledging button and then was shocked to see no file at all had
> been
> written, and no apparent hidden file that I could tell was anywhere.
> Anyone
> know any way to recover this, if at all possible?
>
>check the f
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Re: West Nile virus???-it looks pretty grim around here [message #62220 is a reply to message #62217] |
Mon, 02 January 2006 09:54 |
Deej [1]
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ze with highest at 7. This brings
> >down all faders by 3. (To bring them back up to where they were,
normalize
> >to 10.)
> >Edna
> >
> >"Ed" <askme@email.com> wrote in message news:43b952d0$1@linux...
> >>
> >> Hi All. Perhaps a quick n' easy question for you Paris power users. I
> >mainly
> >> use the mouse for controlling everything on the mixer(s) and such.
> >Anyway,
> >> I was working on a few projects and found that I sonically liked the
> >levels
> >> of one of the projects. It is very frustrating going back through all
> the
> >> other songs in the other projects to bring down each channel fader
> >individually.
> >> My question is... is there a way to control all active (active meaning
> >there
> >> is something on the channel) channel faders at the same time? Another
> >words,
> >> I have all the channel faders set properly, but I want to bring them
all
> >> down a few db's. Is there a way to bring them all down at the same
time
> >> without doing them individually?
> >>
> >> Lastly, I don't have any automation set, so that won't be effected by
> >this.
> >> In fact, I try to stay away from automation because of this reason.
> >There
> >> may be an easy way to "edit" the automation, but I haven't figured it
> out.
> >> I just try to stay away from it. Some day I may delve into that
learning
> >> process... lol. I am old school. Just use Paris for basic recording,
> >mixing....
> >> thanks in advance... and Happy New Year (2006)!
> >
> >
>The automation is a great feature, but I too stay away from it cause everytime
I sit through mixing.. I end up changing things... and I haven't figured
out how to "edit" the automation either. Funny thing.. I been using my Paris
since 2001 and I just use it for basic tracking/mixing. I never got into
all the features... but it's on my list too.. lol. By the time I learn,
Paris will be obsolete. Oh! it IS obsolete... lol. So, what do you use Paris
for? You got a band, or just play with it, like me? I don't go out much
(not too many places to go in southern MD.. lol.) So this is my hobby and
my little get-away. It's been fun. I started out with a Roland system.
But I knew I had to move to a DAW since it wasn't easy to edit single files/channels
on the Roland. Ok.. I bored ya enough... Thanks again and I'll try the normalize
funtion... ~ Ed
"Edna" <edna@texomaonline.com> wrote:
>You bet! Actually, you don't have to do it that way. You could just
>normalize down/up from the highest fader value in the mix.
>
>I haven't gotten in to the automation or the automation editor yet either,
>except to just make sure the automation worked after my install of Paris.
>But its on my list.
>Edna
>
>"Ed" <askme@email.com> wrote in message news:43b9652e$1@linux...
>>
>> Thanks Edna... I'll try that. I seen the normalize button, but was unsure
>> how it operated. In fact, I wished I known this option a few days ago...
>> would have saved me lots of time. I was trying to remix/remaster some
>older
>> projects and songs.. and it was very time consuming to individually adjust
>> each channel. Thanks again... :)
>>
>>
>> "Edna" <edna@texomaonline.com> wrote:
>> >Yes, you can use the normalize function to do this - bring them up or
>down.
>> >For example say you want to lower them all by 3db. On an unused channel
>> >move its fader to 10 and then normalize with highest at 7. This brings
>> >down all faders by 3. (To bring them back up to where they were,
>normalize
>> >to 10.)
>> >Edna
>> >
>> >"Ed" <Report message to a moderator
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Mon, 02 January 2006 13:13 |
zornwil
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through all my projects again and remastering them... I tried to do all my
mastering myself... I've learned alot about it since I been doing it for
years now... Having the proper tools (and knowing how to use them) is the
trick. Having good ears and having a multitude of playback devices and speakers
to listen. As I read one article, you certainly don't want little suzie's
boombox to be farting... lol Sorry, but I found that ironic and very true.
My normal routine is to find a great mixdown in Paris with decent studio
speakers (believe it or not, I currently use Behringer B-300's for this).
Then, I use the old CoolEdit Pro and convert the mixdown to a .wav. In
CoolEdit I use a touch of iZotope Ozone plugin (which has a great equalizer,
maximizer, etc.) and then convert to 16 bit in Cool Edit. Burn it and listen
in the car, the truck, the boombox, home stereo, even put it in the DvD player
and listen through the home theatre system. Of course, to be honest, you'll
always find things to adjust or wrong.. you have to know how to say to yourself...
enough... even put it away for a week sometimes helps. Mastering is very
time consuming, frustrating and sometimes down right the nasty part of a
recording session. But it's either pay piles of money for a professional
master house or learn and do it yourself. If you wanna talk more, we can
exchange email addys instead of clogging up the newsgroup... but if not,
tis ok... anyway, thanks for the help and nice little chat... :)
"Edna" <edna@texomaonline.com> wrote:
>Well I just got into Paris a couple months ago. Its my first DAW. I am
>amazed at what all it can do. I did try out a Roland unit one time but
was
>disappointed with the sound - dead, cold, etc. I am using Paris to track
>vocals and synth mainly for church related things, BG tracks, CDs, etc.
>Also for writing my own stuff - I play kybds/sing. Used to play in bands.
>I got Paris for the sound. I prefer analog, and Paris was touted as the
>nearest to that. It certainly wipes the floor with the Roland, IMHO. And
I
>love the editing features. At the moment I am experimenting with mixdowns,
>trying to get the exported stereo files to sound as good as the original
mix
>and as loud as comm cds - when I bring the stereo wav back to the project
>and a/b with the original, it doesn't sound quite as open and clear.
>Edna
> "Ed" <askme@email.com> wrote in message news:43b9713f$1@linux...
>>
>> The automation is a great feature, but I too stay away from it cause
>everytime
>> I sit through mixing.. I end up changing things... and I haven't figured
>> out how to "edit" the automation either. Funny thing.. I been using my
>Paris
>> since 2001 and I just use it for basic tracking/mixing. I never got into
>> all the features... but it's on my list too.. lol. By the time I learn,
>> Paris will be obsolete. Oh! it IS obsolete... lol. So, what do you use
>Paris
>> for? You got a band, or just play with it, like me? I don't go out much
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Re: West Nile virus???-it looks pretty grim around here [message #62241 is a reply to message #62217] |
Mon, 02 January 2006 16:10 |
TCB
Messages: 1261 Registered: July 2007
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the same time? Another
>>> >words,
>>> >> I have all the channel faders set properly, but I want to bring them
>>all
>>> >> down a few db's. Is there a way to bring them all down at the same
>>time
>>> >> without doing them individually?
>>> >>
>>> >> Lastly, I don't have any automation set, so that won't be effected
>by
>>> >this.
>>> >> In fact, I try to stay away from automation because of this reason.
>>> >There
>>> >> may be an easy way to "edit" the automation, but I haven't figured
>it
>>> out.
>>> >> I just try to stay away from it. Some day I may delve into that
>>learning
>>> >> process... lol. I am old school. Just use Paris for basic recording,
>>> >mixing....
>>> >> thanks in advance... and Happy New Year (2006)!
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>
>>
>Hey Cujo
You *can* "shift" to get smaller values when moving the automation
points. Also, if you click on the track number in the editor, all of
that tracks auto points turn red allowing you to move them all at
once. Further, you can "shift select" additional tracks... all 16 of
them actually, and move the whole shebang up or down.
David.
cujo wrote:
> The automation editor is pretty cool. I only wish I could type in values.
> For instance on bringing an entire track with automation up by .5 db.
> Also, the shift/ fader for .1 db tweaks trick would be nice in the automation
> editor,
> Check it out though
>
> "Ed" <askme@email.com> wrote:
>
>>The automation is a great feature, but I too stay away from it cause everytime
>>I sit through mixing.. I end up changing things... and I haven't figured
>>out how to "edit" the automation either. Funny thing.. I been using my
>
> Paris
>
>>since 2001 and I just use it for basic tracking/mixing. I never got into
>>all the features... but it's on my list too.. lol. By the time I learn,
>>Paris will be obsolete. Oh! it IS obsolete... lol. So, what do you use
>
> Paris
>
>>for? You got a band, or just play with it, like me? I don't go out much
>>(not too many places to go in southern MD.. lol.) So this is my hobby and
>>my little get-away. It's been fun. I started out with a Roland system.
>>But I knew I had to move to a DAW since it wasn't easy to edit single files/channels
>>on the Roland. Ok.. I bored ya enough... Thanks again and I'll try the
>
> normalize
>
>>funtion... ~ Ed
>>
>>
>>"Edna" <edna@texomaonline.com> wrote:
>>
>>>You bet! Actually, you don't have to do it that way. You could just
>>>normalize down/up from the highest fader value in the mix.
>>>
>>>I haven't gotten in to the automation or the automation editor yet either,
>>>except to just make sure the automation worked after my install of Paris.
>>>But its on my list.
>>>Edna
>>>
>>>"Ed" <askme@email.com> wrote in message news:43b9652e$1@linux...
>>>
>>>>Thanks Edna... I'll try that. I seen the normalize button, but was unsure
>>>>how it operated. In fact, I wished I known this option a few days ago...
>>>>would have saved me lots of time. I was trying to remix/remaster some
>>>
>>>older
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>>>>projects and songs.. and it was very time consuming to individually adjust
>>>>each channel. Thanks again... :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Edna" <Report message to a moderator
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