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| Just curious who is still using and who's moved on? [message #87633] |
Thu, 05 July 2007 20:29  |
BradLyons
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For those that don't know me, I had one of the largest Paris systems in use
out there and well while @ another music retailer, I sold Paris sytems by
the boatloads, to many of ya'll I'm sure! So I'm curious, since Paris is
long gone, how many here are still using Paris? And how many have moved
on to other systems? If you've moved on, what are you using now?
Brad Lyons-Sweetwater
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| Re: Just curious who is still using and who's moved on? [message #87635 is a reply to message #87633] |
Thu, 05 July 2007 20:52  |
jp
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yeah, brad--
i remember you--
you helped me out years ago when i first had paris--
fyi--
i just bought a g4 quicksilver so i can continue on--
i'm a singer/songwriter
www.jpjones.net
who still has trouble getting my head around tech stuff.
paris, edmund, what's his name(ID), was the greatest thing i ever encountered.
and paris was so much less expensive(and at the time, better sounding than
pro tools-- didn't they reverse engineer everyting?)
so i am eternally grateful to those guys and people like you
who made it possible.
(let's bot forget chuck duffy!)
after 10 or more professionally produced and released CD's,
i am
yours
jp
"Brad Lyons" <brad@audioandmidi.com> wrote:
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>For those that don't know me, I had one of the largest Paris systems in
use
>out there and well while @ another music retailer, I sold Paris sytems by
>the boatloads, to many of ya'll I'm sure! So I'm curious, since Paris is
>long gone, how many here are still using Paris? And how many have moved
>on to other systems? If you've moved on, what are you using now?
>
>Brad Lyons-Sweetwater
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| Re: Just curious who is still using and who's moved on? [message #87638 is a reply to message #87633] |
Thu, 05 July 2007 21:22 |
LaMont
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Hey Brad...
I'm still using Paris. But, I also, use PT(HD,M-Powered), Nuendo.
Later this year, I will be re-building my Win 98 PC and insalling my 5 card
Paris rig on it..And, that PC will just be for Paris...
"Brad Lyons" <brad@audioandmidi.com> wrote:
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>For those that don't know me, I had one of the largest Paris systems in
use
>out there and well while @ another music retailer, I sold Paris sytems by
>the boatloads, to many of ya'll I'm sure! So I'm curious, since Paris is
>long gone, how many here are still using Paris? And how many have moved
>on to other systems? If you've moved on, what are you using now?
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>Brad Lyons-Sweetwater
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| Re: Just curious who is still using and who's moved on? [message #87639 is a reply to message #87633] |
Thu, 05 July 2007 21:18 |
Dedric Terry
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Hey Brad,
Good to see you around here again. I think I bought my rig from you (ECMM
at least). I sold it probably 2-3 years ago now.
I'm using Nuendo now - loving it for composing, sound design and post.
Regards,
Dedric
On 7/5/07 9:29 PM, in article 468db712$1@linux, "Brad Lyons"
<brad@audioandmidi.com> wrote:
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> For those that don't know me, I had one of the largest Paris systems in use
> out there and well while @ another music retailer, I sold Paris sytems by
> the boatloads, to many of ya'll I'm sure! So I'm curious, since Paris is
> long gone, how many here are still using Paris? And how many have moved
> on to other systems? If you've moved on, what are you using now?
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> Brad Lyons-Sweetwater
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| Re: Just curious who is still using and who's moved on? [message #87640 is a reply to message #87633] |
Thu, 05 July 2007 21:25 |
Paul Braun
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On 6 Jul 2007 13:29:22 +1000, "Brad Lyons" <brad@audioandmidi.com>
wrote:
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>For those that don't know me, I had one of the largest Paris systems in use
>out there and well while @ another music retailer, I sold Paris sytems by
>the boatloads, to many of ya'll I'm sure! So I'm curious, since Paris is
>long gone, how many here are still using Paris? And how many have moved
>on to other systems? If you've moved on, what are you using now?
>
>Brad Lyons-Sweetwater
I'm still using Paris. I still have the cobbled-together Bundle II
you sold me, and I've added another EDS, three MEC's, 4 C16's, one
ADAT and 2 8iT cards over the years.
Next up is to pick up a third EDS and some more input cards.
It still does what I need - which is primarily tracking live off the
board during concerts, and then playing at being a mix engineer in my
spare time.
pab
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| Re: Just curious who is still using and who's moved on? [message #87643 is a reply to message #87633] |
Thu, 05 July 2007 22:14 |
Kim
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I've changed work flows somewhat, but I'm still using Paris as the final
editor and mixdown system. I can see advantages to other systems, but I think
there comes a time when you have to say "My gear does so much that I don't
need anything else".
If I was running a pro studio with clients it would be different I guess,
but given I'm 70% just doing my own stuff, it really suits me just to use
Paris, especially with the prices these days. Still sounds great to me too.
Cheers,
Kim.
"Brad Lyons" <brad@audioandmidi.com> wrote:
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>For those that don't know me, I had one of the largest Paris systems in
use
>out there and well while @ another music retailer, I sold Paris sytems by
>the boatloads, to many of ya'll I'm sure! So I'm curious, since Paris is
>long gone, how many here are still using Paris? And how many have moved
>on to other systems? If you've moved on, what are you using now?
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>Brad Lyons-Sweetwater
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| Re: Just curious who is still using and who's moved on? [message #87646 is a reply to message #87633] |
Thu, 05 July 2007 22:22 |
audioguy_editout_
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Hey Brad,
Nuendo3, SX3, PTHD3 Accell and 7 bundle III's at the
moment... Lots of 3's around here...
David.
Brad Lyons wrote:
> For those that don't know me, I had one of the largest Paris systems in use
> out there and well while @ another music retailer, I sold Paris sytems by
> the boatloads, to many of ya'll I'm sure! So I'm curious, since Paris is
> long gone, how many here are still using Paris? And how many have moved
> on to other systems? If you've moved on, what are you using now?
>
> Brad Lyons-Sweetwater
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| Re: Just curious who is still using and who's moved on? [message #87649 is a reply to message #87633] |
Thu, 05 July 2007 23:53 |
erlilo
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Hei Brad.
Welcome back and good to see you again here.
I'm still using Paris with two one card system's, one in Denmark and one
here in Norway. But I have buyed Cubase SX2/3 some years ago, without
learning or using them at all and have now upgrated to version 4, where I've
just have started the learning curve. So, I think Paris will be faded more
and more out when "old me" have learned the basics with Cubase 4. ....But
who knows....;-)
Erling
"Brad Lyons" <brad@audioandmidi.com> skrev i melding
news:468db712$1@linux...
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> For those that don't know me, I had one of the largest Paris systems in
> use
> out there and well while @ another music retailer, I sold Paris sytems by
> the boatloads, to many of ya'll I'm sure! So I'm curious, since Paris is
> long gone, how many here are still using Paris? And how many have moved
> on to other systems? If you've moved on, what are you using now?
>
> Brad Lyons-Sweetwater
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| Re: Just curious who is still using and who's moved on? [message #87650 is a reply to message #87640] |
Fri, 06 July 2007 00:08 |
jp
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i've been using PARIS for almost 9 years and only had it balk once(one time)
during live 16 track recording. 10 pro CD releases. not bad.
jp
Paul Braun <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote:
>On 6 Jul 2007 13:29:22 +1000, "Brad Lyons" <brad@audioandmidi.com>
>wrote:
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>>For those that don't know me, I had one of the largest Paris systems in
use
>>out there and well while @ another music retailer, I sold Paris sytems
by
>>the boatloads, to many of ya'll I'm sure! So I'm curious, since Paris
is
>>long gone, how many here are still using Paris? And how many have moved
>>on to other systems? If you've moved on, what are you using now?
>>
>>Brad Lyons-Sweetwater
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>I'm still using Paris. I still have the cobbled-together Bundle II
>you sold me, and I've added another EDS, three MEC's, 4 C16's, one
>ADAT and 2 8iT cards over the years.
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>Next up is to pick up a third EDS and some more input cards.
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>It still does what I need - which is primarily tracking live off the
>board during concerts, and then playing at being a mix engineer in my
>spare time.
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>pab
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| Re: Just curious who is still using and who's moved on? [message #87652 is a reply to message #87649] |
Fri, 06 July 2007 00:14 |
jp
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hey da Erling--
having this issue opened up once again,
i have to wonder why edmund and what's his name(ID) couldn't hang in with
us a little longer-- they
created a beautiful recording system, and then,
i guess, because of the money, had to
abandoned us.
jp
"erlilo" <erlilo@nospamonline.no> wrote:
>Hei Brad.
>Welcome back and good to see you again here.
>I'm still using Paris with two one card system's, one in Denmark and one
>here in Norway. But I have buyed Cubase SX2/3 some years ago, without
>learning or using them at all and have now upgrated to version 4, where
I've
>just have started the learning curve. So, I think Paris will be faded more
>and more out when "old me" have learned the basics with Cubase 4. ....But
>who knows....;-)
>
>Erling
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>"Brad Lyons" <brad@audioandmidi.com> skrev i melding
>news:468db712$1@linux...
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>> For those that don't know me, I had one of the largest Paris systems in
>> use
>> out there and well while @ another music retailer, I sold Paris sytems
by
>> the boatloads, to many of ya'll I'm sure! So I'm curious, since Paris
is
>> long gone, how many here are still using Paris? And how many have moved
>> on to other systems? If you've moved on, what are you using now?
>>
>> Brad Lyons-Sweetwater
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| Re: Just curious who is still using and who's moved on? [message #87658 is a reply to message #87652] |
Fri, 06 July 2007 02:07 |
erlilo
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Hei da John Paul...
I can follow you here and I think the price to survive had to be payed in
what has happened with Paris. As we can see here, the life is getting
foreward for most of us, with or without Paris. So I'm not speculating
anymore in what could have happened if Ensoniq and ID had making enough
money to make Paris the way they wanted for us.
Erling
"jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> skrev i melding news:468debe4$1@linux...
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> hey da Erling--
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> having this issue opened up once again,
> i have to wonder why edmund and what's his name(ID) couldn't hang in with
> us a little longer-- they
> created a beautiful recording system, and then,
> i guess, because of the money, had to
> abandoned us.
>
> jp
> "erlilo" <erlilo@nospamonline.no> wrote:
>>Hei Brad.
>>Welcome back and good to see you again here.
>>I'm still using Paris with two one card system's, one in Denmark and one
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>>here in Norway. But I have buyed Cubase SX2/3 some years ago, without
>>learning or using them at all and have now upgrated to version 4, where
> I've
>>just have started the learning curve. So, I think Paris will be faded more
>
>>and more out when "old me" have learned the basics with Cubase 4. ....But
>
>>who knows....;-)
>>
>>Erling
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>>"Brad Lyons" <brad@audioandmidi.com> skrev i melding
>>news:468db712$1@linux...
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>>> For those that don't know me, I had one of the largest Paris systems in
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>>> use
>>> out there and well while @ another music retailer, I sold Paris sytems
> by
>>> the boatloads, to many of ya'll I'm sure! So I'm curious, since Paris
> is
>>> long gone, how many here are still using Paris? And how many have moved
>>> on to other systems? If you've moved on, what are you using now?
>>>
>>> Brad Lyons-Sweetwater
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| Re: Just curious who is still using and who's moved on? [message #87671 is a reply to message #87646] |
Fri, 06 July 2007 07:02 |
BradLyons
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Wow, that's a lot of Paris systems!! LOL
Brad
"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>Hey Brad,
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>Nuendo3, SX3, PTHD3 Accell and 7 bundle III's at the
>moment... Lots of 3's around here...
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>David.
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>Brad Lyons wrote:
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>> For those that don't know me, I had one of the largest Paris systems in
use
>> out there and well while @ another music retailer, I sold Paris sytems
by
>> the boatloads, to many of ya'll I'm sure! So I'm curious, since Paris
is
>> long gone, how many here are still using Paris? And how many have moved
>> on to other systems? If you've moved on, what are you using now?
>>
>> Brad Lyons-Sweetwater
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| Re: Just curious who is still using and who's moved on? [message #87673 is a reply to message #87633] |
Fri, 06 July 2007 07:08 |
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Hi Brad,
I'm still using Paris. Two MECs + four EDS cards + two UAD-1 cards. I've
been thinking long and hard about what I'll be moving to but so far inertia
and lack of spare change has prevented me from making any big changes. Plus,
in spite of all it's quirks and irritations, Paris still sounds great!
I think you tried to sell me something way back when. Was it a Panasonic
digi board? Can't remember!
Gantt
"Brad Lyons" <brad@audioandmidi.com> wrote:
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>For those that don't know me, I had one of the largest Paris systems in
use
>out there and well while @ another music retailer, I sold Paris sytems by
>the boatloads, to many of ya'll I'm sure! So I'm curious, since Paris is
>long gone, how many here are still using Paris? And how many have moved
>on to other systems? If you've moved on, what are you using now?
>
>Brad Lyons-Sweetwater
Gantt Kushner
Gizmo Recording Company
Silver Spring, MD
www.gizmorecording.com
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| Re: Just curious who is still using and who's moved on? [message #87674 is a reply to message #87633] |
Fri, 06 July 2007 07:09 |
gene lennon
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Hi Brad,Long time.
I always used a hybrid system with Paris. I still do. Can’t get completely
away from the sound. Sometimes Paris is a DSP mix engine, sometimes it’s
an effects rack and sometimes I do projects “All Paris”. Particularly when
working with other Paris producers. Joshua P. Thompson still uses Paris rigs,
(He also has HD now) and David Conley still has Paris rigs.(Many others too,
but I still work with Josh and “Pic”, a fair amount.)
Gene
"Brad Lyons" <brad@audioandmidi.com> wrote:
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>For those that don't know me, I had one of the largest Paris systems in
use
>out there and well while @ another music retailer, I sold Paris sytems by
>the boatloads, to many of ya'll I'm sure! So I'm curious, since Paris is
>long gone, how many here are still using Paris? And how many have moved
>on to other systems? If you've moved on, what are you using now?
>
>Brad Lyons-Sweetwater
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| Re: Just curious who is still using and who's moved on? [message #87675 is a reply to message #87633] |
Fri, 06 July 2007 07:09 |
BradLyons
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I absolutely LOVED Paris at the time--but as we started to need more things,
it just couldn't keep up. The bouncing down was getting annoying, so we got
more DSP cards. But then trying to do independant headphone mixes became
an issue, then expanding into more tracks was a problem, many native plugins
were giving me issues, etc.
When I left Connecticut in 2000 to come to Sweetwater (wow, I've been here
7-years now???), I also left the studio and Paris systems behind. I was
burned out on audio, I took some time off--but not am back into it.
I use (2) ProToolsHD3 Accel's, each with a Control24. I also use the Digidesign
DShow Venue live tied to an HD system. I have another PC running Nuendo,
Sonar, Cubase4 and a few other programs (all 100% legit) as testing setups
so I can better understand the programs and plugins for my clients. I'm
mixing television post and live broadcast, as well as tracking and mixing
live concerts where I regularly work with 48-80 tracks live. LOL I sometimes
am recording as much as 800MB of data PER MINUTE! :-)
Here's the control room at my home studio:
http://www.audioandmidi.com/studio/homestudio.html
And the control room at my church:
http://www.audioandmidi.com/BLACKHAWK/brad_blackhawk1.jpg
Brad Lyons
Sweetwater
"Brad Lyons" <brad@audioandmidi.com> wrote:
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>For those that don't know me, I had one of the largest Paris systems in
use
>out there and well while @ another music retailer, I sold Paris sytems by
>the boatloads, to many of ya'll I'm sure! So I'm curious, since Paris is
>long gone, how many here are still using Paris? And how many have moved
>on to other systems? If you've moved on, what are you using now?
>
>Brad Lyons-Sweetwater
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| Re: Just curious who is still using and who's moved on? [message #87676 is a reply to message #87673] |
Fri, 06 July 2007 07:11 |
BradLyons
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I tried to sell you A LOT of things way back when, after several years of
trying to earn your business--I finally gave up ;-)
Brad
"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
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>Hi Brad,
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>I'm still using Paris. Two MECs + four EDS cards + two UAD-1 cards. I've
>been thinking long and hard about what I'll be moving to but so far inertia
>and lack of spare change has prevented me from making any big changes.
Plus,
>in spite of all it's quirks and irritations, Paris still sounds great!
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>I think you tried to sell me something way back when. Was it a Panasonic
>digi board? Can't remember!
>
>Gantt
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>"Brad Lyons" <brad@audioandmidi.com> wrote:
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>>For those that don't know me, I had one of the largest Paris systems in
>use
>>out there and well while @ another music retailer, I sold Paris sytems
by
>>the boatloads, to many of ya'll I'm sure! So I'm curious, since Paris
is
>>long gone, how many here are still using Paris? And how many have moved
>>on to other systems? If you've moved on, what are you using now?
>>
>>Brad Lyons-Sweetwater
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| Re: Just curious who is still using and who's moved on? [message #87681 is a reply to message #87633] |
Fri, 06 July 2007 07:38 |
Jamie K
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Glad to hear you're still alive and kickin', Brad!
My main Mac G4-based Paris system went to a very talented musician in
Colorado who plays mainly acoustic music. AFAIK it lives on with him.
Various other PARIS pieces went to folks on this forum.
Although I remain a PARIS fan for multitrack recording and mixing, I
moved on due to the failed MIDI implementation in PARIS and the lack of
OSX support.
I now use Logic Pro along with a boatload of astonishing synth/FX
plugins. My MOTU 828MII along with eight extra mic pres and outputs on
the ADAT i/o gives me more inputs and outputs than I had with PARIS.
Moving synths/samplers and FX into the computer allowed me to lose
several full racks of outboard gear while gaining the ability to run
more iterations of whatever the song calls for. All is now running
comfortably on a dual G5, which is also a great platform for my hard
working video editing, compositing, graphics and animation software.
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
Brad Lyons wrote:
> For those that don't know me, I had one of the largest Paris systems in use
> out there and well while @ another music retailer, I sold Paris sytems by
> the boatloads, to many of ya'll I'm sure! So I'm curious, since Paris is
> long gone, how many here are still using Paris? And how many have moved
> on to other systems? If you've moved on, what are you using now?
>
> Brad Lyons-Sweetwater
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| Re: Just curious who is still using and who's moved on? [message #87683 is a reply to message #87633] |
Fri, 06 July 2007 08:19 |
Paul Artola
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Brad -
As you know, I am still using Paris in my little studio, however, I am
migrating away from it as the centerpiece. Earlier this year, I put
together a PC to host my UAD card, and I will likely make that the
central recorder soon.
I plan to pick up a Tascam DM4800 digital mixer to server as the
frontend for the new PC. Currently it has an RME Multiface as its i/o
and is running Samplitude, Reaper, and N-Tracks. When the DM4800 makes
it into the studio, I may consider Sonar or Cubase for tighter control
surface integration. Also, I have a Muse Receptor, and would like to
get it more in the signal path too.
At that time, Paris will move over to be the mixdown system, so I will
have a 2-card setup with ADAT + analog transfer capability of up to 32
tracks.
As always, we make this up as we go, so who knows what the final
configuration will be, but I am really looking forward to getting the
DM4800 here and playing with it.
- Paul Artola
Ellicott City, Maryland
On 6 Jul 2007 13:29:22 +1000, "Brad Lyons" <brad@audioandmidi.com>
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>For those that don't know me, I had one of the largest Paris systems in use
>out there and well while @ another music retailer, I sold Paris sytems by
>the boatloads, to many of ya'll I'm sure! So I'm curious, since Paris is
>long gone, how many here are still using Paris? And how many have moved
>on to other systems? If you've moved on, what are you using now?
>
>Brad Lyons-Sweetwater
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Fri, 06 July 2007 09:20 |
Gary Flanigan
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PT M-Powered with Project Mix I/O and Rosetta 800, plus the usual assortment
of mics, pres, and compressors.
"Brad Lyons" <brad@audioandmidi.com> wrote:
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>For those that don't know me, I had one of the largest Paris systems in
use
>out there and well while @ another music retailer, I sold Paris sytems by
>the boatloads, to many of ya'll I'm sure! So I'm curious, since Paris is
>long gone, how many here are still using Paris? And how many have moved
>on to other systems? If you've moved on, what are you using now?
>
>Brad Lyons-Sweetwater
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Fri, 06 July 2007 09:41 |
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Hi Brad,
Good to see you are alive, well and having fun!
Chuck
"Brad Lyons" <brad@audioandmidi.com> wrote:
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>I absolutely LOVED Paris at the time--but as we started to need more things,
>it just couldn't keep up. The bouncing down was getting annoying, so we
got
>more DSP cards. But then trying to do independant headphone mixes became
>an issue, then expanding into more tracks was a problem, many native plugins
>were giving me issues, etc.
>
>When I left Connecticut in 2000 to come to Sweetwater (wow, I've been here
>7-years now???), I also left the studio and Paris systems behind. I was
>burned out on audio, I took some time off--but not am back into it.
>
>I use (2) ProToolsHD3 Accel's, each with a Control24. I also use the Digidesign
>DShow Venue live tied to an HD system. I have another PC running Nuendo,
>Sonar, Cubase4 and a few other programs (all 100% legit) as testing setups
>so I can better understand the programs and plugins for my clients. I'm
>mixing television post and live broadcast, as well as tracking and mixing
>live concerts where I regularly work with 48-80 tracks live. LOL I sometimes
>am recording as much as 800MB of data PER MINUTE! :-)
>
>Here's the control room at my home studio:
>
>http://www.audioandmidi.com/studio/homestudio.html
>
>
>And the control room at my church:
>
>http://www.audioandmidi.com/BLACKHAWK/brad_blackhawk1.jpg
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>
>
>Brad Lyons
>Sweetwater
>
>"Brad Lyons" <brad@audioandmidi.com> wrote:
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>>For those that don't know me, I had one of the largest Paris systems in
>use
>>out there and well while @ another music retailer, I sold Paris sytems
by
>>the boatloads, to many of ya'll I'm sure! So I'm curious, since Paris
is
>>long gone, how many here are still using Paris? And how many have moved
>>on to other systems? If you've moved on, what are you using now?
>>
>>Brad Lyons-Sweetwater
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| Re: Just curious who is still using and who's moved on? [message #87692 is a reply to message #87691] |
Fri, 06 July 2007 10:47 |
BradLyons
Messages: 36
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LOL everyone keeps writing "good to see you're alive", I didn't realize just
how sick I was! Actually, I've had (3) ambulance rides, one of which I arrived
at the ER with a temp of 105, believe it or not. The funny thing was I was
going in and out of things but I remember them asking me which hospital I
wanted to go to.....I said "McDonalds" :-)
"chuck duffy" <c@c.om> wrote:
>
>Hi Brad,
>
>Good to see you are alive, well and having fun!
>
>Chuck
>"Brad Lyons" <brad@audioandmidi.com> wrote:
>>
>>I absolutely LOVED Paris at the time--but as we started to need more things,
>>it just couldn't keep up. The bouncing down was getting annoying, so we
>got
>>more DSP cards. But then trying to do independant headphone mixes became
>>an issue, then expanding into more tracks was a problem, many native plugins
>>were giving me issues, etc.
>>
>>When I left Connecticut in 2000 to come to Sweetwater (wow, I've been here
>>7-years now???), I also left the studio and Paris systems behind. I was
>>burned out on audio, I took some time off--but not am back into it.
>>
>>I use (2) ProToolsHD3 Accel's, each with a Control24. I also use the Digidesign
>>DShow Venue live tied to an HD system. I have another PC running Nuendo,
>>Sonar, Cubase4 and a few other programs (all 100% legit) as testing setups
>>so I can better understand the programs and plugins for my clients. I'm
>>mixing television post and live broadcast, as well as tracking and mixing
>>live concerts where I regularly work with 48-80 tracks live. LOL I sometimes
>>am recording as much as 800MB of data PER MINUTE! :-)
>>
>>Here's the control room at my home studio:
>>
>>http://www.audioandmidi.com/studio/homestudio.html
>>
>>
>>And the control room at my church:
>>
>>http://www.audioandmidi.com/BLACKHAWK/brad_blackhawk1.jpg
>>
>>
>>
>>Brad Lyons
>>Sweetwater
>>
>>"Brad Lyons" <brad@audioandmidi.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>For those that don't know me, I had one of the largest Paris systems in
>>use
>>>out there and well while @ another music retailer, I sold Paris sytems
>by
>>>the boatloads, to many of ya'll I'm sure! So I'm curious, since Paris
>is
>>>long gone, how many here are still using Paris? And how many have moved
>>>on to other systems? If you've moved on, what are you using now?
>>>
>>>Brad Lyons-Sweetwater
>>
>
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| Re: Just curious who is still using and who's moved on? [message #87693 is a reply to message #87633] |
Fri, 06 July 2007 11:06 |
DJ
Messages: 1124
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in use
> out there and well while @ another music retailer, I sold Paris sytems =
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> the boatloads, to many of ya'll I'm sure! So I'm curious, since Paris =
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> Brad Lyons-Sweetwater
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| Re: Just curious who is still using and who's moved on? [message #87694 is a reply to message #87693] |
Fri, 06 July 2007 11:27 |
mikep[1]
Messages: 27
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I am still a faithful user. I use Paris everyday. Last year I upgraded to
a dual core PC running XP and ran into a few glitches to get it to work properly,
but now it is very stable. I still love working with Paris, and although
I've thought about moving to a different system, I haven't needed to just
yet.
"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
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>"Brad Lyons" <brad@audioandmidi.com> wrote in message =
>news:468db712$1@linux...
>>=20
>> For those that don't know me, I had one of the largest Paris systems =
>in use
>> out there and well while @ another music retailer, I sold Paris sytems
=
>by
>> the boatloads, to many of ya'll I'm sure! So I'm curious, since Paris
=
>is
>> long gone, how many here are still using Paris? And how many have =
>moved
>> on to other systems? If you've moved on, what are you using now?=20
>>=20
>> Brad Lyons-Sweetwater
>
>3 x HDSP 9652's and one Multiface PCI
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>many of=20
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| Re: Just curious who is still using and who's moved on? [message #87698 is a reply to message #87683] |
Fri, 06 July 2007 14:28 |
Cujjo
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Funny, I'd rather track in Paris and mix where I can have a bit more flexibilty.
Paul Artola <artola@comcast.net> wrote:
>Brad -
>
>As you know, I am still using Paris in my little studio, however, I am
>migrating away from it as the centerpiece. Earlier this year, I put
>together a PC to host my UAD card, and I will likely make that the
>central recorder soon.
>
>I plan to pick up a Tascam DM4800 digital mixer to server as the
>frontend for the new PC. Currently it has an RME Multiface as its i/o
>and is running Samplitude, Reaper, and N-Tracks. When the DM4800 makes
>it into the studio, I may consider Sonar or Cubase for tighter control
>surface integration. Also, I have a Muse Receptor, and would like to
>get it more in the signal path too.
>
>At that time, Paris will move over to be the mixdown system, so I will
>have a 2-card setup with ADAT + analog transfer capability of up to 32
>tracks.
>
>As always, we make this up as we go, so who knows what the final
>configuration will be, but I am really looking forward to getting the
>DM4800 here and playing with it.
>
>- Paul Artola
> Ellicott City, Maryland
>
>On 6 Jul 2007 13:29:22 +1000, "Brad Lyons" <brad@audioandmidi.com>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>For those that don't know me, I had one of the largest Paris systems in
use
>>out there and well while @ another music retailer, I sold Paris sytems
by
>>the boatloads, to many of ya'll I'm sure! So I'm curious, since Paris
is
>>long gone, how many here are still using Paris? And how many have moved
>>on to other systems? If you've moved on, what are you using now?
>>
>>Brad Lyons-Sweetwater
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| Re: Just curious who is still using and who's moved on? [message #87707 is a reply to message #87692] |
Fri, 06 July 2007 16:36 |
jp
Messages: 65
Registered: June 2005
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Brad--
trying to remember(my mind is a fine mind, as Jimmy Cliff
might say, but not what it used to be)
i think i got my system through you--
in any case I remember some of the help you gave me through this site
when i first started out with PARIS
thanks,
jp
"Brad Lyons" <brad@audioandmidi.com> wrote:
>
>LOL everyone keeps writing "good to see you're alive", I didn't realize
just
>how sick I was! Actually, I've had (3) ambulance rides, one of which I
arrived
>at the ER with a temp of 105, believe it or not. The funny thing was I
was
>going in and out of things but I remember them asking me which hospital
I
>wanted to go to.....I said "McDonalds" :-)
>
>"chuck duffy" <c@c.om> wrote:
>>
>>Hi Brad,
>>
>>Good to see you are alive, well and having fun!
>>
>>Chuck
>>"Brad Lyons" <brad@audioandmidi.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>I absolutely LOVED Paris at the time--but as we started to need more things,
>>>it just couldn't keep up. The bouncing down was getting annoying, so we
>>got
>>>more DSP cards. But then trying to do independant headphone mixes became
>>>an issue, then expanding into more tracks was a problem, many native plugins
>>>were giving me issues, etc.
>>>
>>>When I left Connecticut in 2000 to come to Sweetwater (wow, I've been
here
>>>7-years now???), I also left the studio and Paris systems behind. I was
>>>burned out on audio, I took some time off--but not am back into it.
>>>
>>>I use (2) ProToolsHD3 Accel's, each with a Control24. I also use the
Digidesign
>>>DShow Venue live tied to an HD system. I have another PC running Nuendo,
>>>Sonar, Cubase4 and a few other programs (all 100% legit) as testing setups
>>>so I can better understand the programs and plugins for my clients. I'm
>>>mixing television post and live broadcast, as well as tracking and mixing
>>>live concerts where I regularly work with 48-80 tracks live. LOL I sometimes
>>>am recording as much as 800MB of data PER MINUTE! :-)
>>>
>>>Here's the control room at my home studio:
>>>
>>>http://www.audioandmidi.com/studio/homestudio.html
>>>
>>>
>>>And the control room at my church:
>>>
>>>http://www.audioandmidi.com/BLACKHAWK/brad_blackhawk1.jpg
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Brad Lyons
>>>Sweetwater
>>>
>>>"Brad Lyons" <brad@audioandmidi.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>For those that don't know me, I had one of the largest Paris systems
in
>>>use
>>>>out there and well while @ another music retailer, I sold Paris sytems
>>by
>>>>the boatloads, to many of ya'll I'm sure! So I'm curious, since Paris
>>is
>>>>long gone, how many here are still using Paris? And how many have moved
>>>>on to other systems? If you've moved on, what are you using now?
>>>>
>>>>Brad Lyons-Sweetwater
>>>
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| Re: Just curious who is still using and who's moved on? [message #87713 is a reply to message #87675] |
Fri, 06 July 2007 19:11 |
Neil
Messages: 1645
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Brad, you of course know I migrated over to Cubase a while
ago. Currently running SX3 on:
* Intel Dual-Core 2 x 2.8 Gigger
* 2 gigs of RAM (off-the-shelf Gateway PC, actually... got a
screamin' deal recently on the last of the XP boxes).
* 2x RME Multifaces
* But still have Paris & Pulsar cards on a separate PC running
WinME - Paris system has 2 EDS cards/MEC/8-in module/ADAT
module. The two PC's are ethernetted together for easy
fileswapping.
Thinking about getting a 2nd 8-in module just in case I have a
band project come up where I need that Paris convertor sound.
Gang, Brad actually "sold" me my first Paris system - although
he did so just as he was leaving Caruso, so when I actually
made the purchase, he had already left for greener, "sweeter"
pastures.
Neil
(who has probably put Brad's soon-to-be two kids through at
least one year of college since he's been at SW, though! lol)
"Brad Lyons" <brad@audioandmidi.com> wrote:
>
>I absolutely LOVED Paris at the time--but as we started to need more things,
>it just couldn't keep up. The bouncing down was getting annoying, so we
got
>more DSP cards. But then trying to do independant headphone mixes became
>an issue, then expanding into more tracks was a problem, many native plugins
>were giving me issues, etc.
>
>When I left Connecticut in 2000 to come to Sweetwater (wow, I've been here
>7-years now???), I also left the studio and Paris systems behind. I was
>burned out on audio, I took some time off--but not am back into it.
>
>I use (2) ProToolsHD3 Accel's, each with a Control24. I also use the Digidesign
>DShow Venue live tied to an HD system. I have another PC running Nuendo,
>Sonar, Cubase4 and a few other programs (all 100% legit) as testing setups
>so I can better understand the programs and plugins for my clients. I'm
>mixing television post and live broadcast, as well as tracking and mixing
>live concerts where I regularly work with 48-80 tracks live. LOL I sometimes
>am recording as much as 800MB of data PER MINUTE! :-)
>
>Here's the control room at my home studio:
>
>http://www.audioandmidi.com/studio/homestudio.html
>
>
>And the control room at my church:
>
>http://www.audioandmidi.com/BLACKHAWK/brad_blackhawk1.jpg
>
>
>
>Brad Lyons
>Sweetwater
>
>"Brad Lyons" <brad@audioandmidi.com> wrote:
>>
>>For those that don't know me, I had one of the largest Paris systems in
>use
>>out there and well while @ another music retailer, I sold Paris sytems
by
>>the boatloads, to many of ya'll I'm sure! So I'm curious, since Paris
is
>>long gone, how many here are still using Paris? And how many have moved
>>on to other systems? If you've moved on, what are you using now?
>>
>>Brad Lyons-Sweetwater
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