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$2000 daw ? [message #63262]

Tue, 17 January 2006 15:01

John [1]

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Registered: September 2005

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Can you get a daw with plug in compensation that is rock solid for $2000
not counting the computer?

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Re: $2000 daw ? [message #63273 is a reply to message #63262]

Tue, 17 January 2006 17:54

Jeremy Luzier

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Registered: November 2005

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Cubase SX

"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:43cd77b2@linux...
> Can you get a daw with plug in compensation that is rock solid for $2000
> not counting the computer?

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Re: $2000 daw ? [message #63274 is a reply to message #63273]

Tue, 17 January 2006 19:07

jjdpro
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I would agree that Steignber's Cubase SX & Nuendo are one thee most stable
DAW's in the business. Logic Audio on a good fast Mac is solid. As is Sonar
& Digital Performer. All i al, I would have to say that all of today's native
DAWs, including ProTools LE & M-Powered are rock solid stable.

"Jeremy Luzier" <j.luzier@comcast.net> wrote:
>Cubase SX
>
>
>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:43cd77b2@linux...
>> Can you get a daw with plug in compensation that is rock solid for $2000
>> not counting the computer?
>
>

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Re: $2000 daw ? [message #63297 is a reply to message #63273]

Wed, 18 January 2006 04:06

John [1]

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you forgot the I/O

Jeremy Luzier wrote:
> Cubase SX
>
>
> "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:43cd77b2@linux...
>
>>Can you get a daw with plug in compensation that is rock solid for $2000
>> not counting the computer?
>
>
>

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Re: $2000 daw ? [message #63298 is a reply to message #63274]

Wed, 18 January 2006 04:08

John [1]

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So pretty much everything is rock solid except paris. hahaha

LaMont wrote:
> I would agree that Steignber's Cubase SX & Nuendo are one thee most stable
> DAW's in the business. Logic Audio on a good fast Mac is solid. As is Sonar
> & Digital Performer. All i al, I would have to say that all of today's native
> DAWs, including ProTools LE & M-Powered are rock solid stable.
>
>
> "Jeremy Luzier" <j.luzier@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>Cubase SX
>>
>>
>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:43cd77b2@linux...
>>
>>>Can you get a daw with plug in compensation that is rock solid for $2000
>>> not counting the computer?
>>
>>
>

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Re: $2000 daw ? [message #63299 is a reply to message #63262]

Wed, 18 January 2006 04:21

Bill Lorentzen

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I would recommend Samplitude and either an RME or Emu I/O. One of Sam's
virtues is that it contains very good effects and EQs, so there is no
*necessity* to buy plugs. You will need to buy VSTis if you want them.

Bill

"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:43cd77b2@linux...
> Can you get a daw with plug in compensation that is rock solid for $2000
> not counting the computer?

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Re: $2000 daw ? [message #63302 is a reply to message #63262]

Wed, 18 January 2006 06:44

Chris Ludwig

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Registered: May 2006

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HI John,
Hell Yeah.

Street prices-
Cubase SX 599.00
(Nobody does it better)
RME Multiface2 w/ HDSP PCI card - 899.00
(Best sounding AD/DA for the money)

This leave you 500.00 bucks to buy plugins or something.
If you want a control surface then the Mackie Control will be your best
bet. 999.00

Chris

John wrote:
> Can you get a daw with plug in compensation that is rock solid for $2000
> not counting the computer?

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Re: $2000 daw ? [message #63304 is a reply to message #63302]

Wed, 18 January 2006 07:37

John [1]

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So are you still using paris? If so why?

Chris Ludwig wrote:
> HI John,
> Hell Yeah.
>
> Street prices-
> Cubase SX 599.00
> (Nobody does it better)
> RME Multiface2 w/ HDSP PCI card - 899.00
> (Best sounding AD/DA for the money)
>
> This leave you 500.00 bucks to buy plugins or something.
> If you want a control surface then the Mackie Control will be your best
> bet. 999.00
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
> John wrote:
>
>> Can you get a daw with plug in compensation that is rock solid for
>> $2000 not counting the computer?
>
>

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Re: $2000 daw ? [message #63308 is a reply to message #63298]

Wed, 18 January 2006 09:27

LaMont
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Registered: October 2005

Senior Member

I thought you meant what native app would I recommend.

John <no@no.com> wrote:
>So pretty much everything is rock solid except paris. hahaha
>
>LaMont wrote:
>> I would agree that Steignber's Cubase SX & Nuendo are one thee most stable
>> DAW's in the business. Logic Audio on a good fast Mac is solid. As is
Sonar
>> & Digital Performer. All i al, I would have to say that all of today's
native
>> DAWs, including ProTools LE & M-Powered are rock solid stable.
>>
>>
>> "Jeremy Luzier" <j.luzier@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>>Cubase SX
>>>
>>>
>>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:43cd77b2@linux...
>>>
>>>>Can you get a daw with plug in compensation that is rock solid for $2000
>>>> not counting the computer?
>>>
>>>
>>

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Re: $2000 daw ? [message #63315 is a reply to message #63274]

Wed, 18 January 2006 10:06

Gary Flanigan
Messages: 181
Registered: June 2006

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"LaMont" <jjdpro@amerietch.net> wrote:
>
>I would agree that Steignber's Cubase SX & Nuendo are one thee most stable
>DAW's in the business. Logic Audio on a good fast Mac is solid. As is Sonar
>& Digital Performer. All i al, I would have to say that all of today's native
>DAWs, including ProTools LE & M-Powered are rock solid stable.

Does Pro Tools LE & M-Powered have plugin latency compensation?

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Re: $2000 daw ? [message #63317 is a reply to message #63315]

Wed, 18 January 2006 09:44

John [1]

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no it does not

Gary Flanigan wrote:
> "LaMont" <jjdpro@amerietch.net> wrote:
>
>>I would agree that Steignber's Cubase SX & Nuendo are one thee most stable
>>DAW's in the business. Logic Audio on a good fast Mac is solid. As is Sonar
>>& Digital Performer. All i al, I would have to say that all of today's native
>>DAWs, including ProTools LE & M-Powered are rock solid stable.
>
>
> Does Pro Tools LE & M-Powered have plugin latency compensation?

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Re: $2000 daw ? [message #63318 is a reply to message #63308]

Wed, 18 January 2006 09:53

John [1]

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what defines a native app Lamont, whether any processing is done on
external hardware or not? native meaning all processing is done by the
pc right?

LaMont wrote:
> I thought you meant what native app would I recommend.
>
> John <no@no.com> wrote:
>
>>So pretty much everything is rock solid except paris. hahaha
>>
>>LaMont wrote:
>>
>>>I would agree that Steignber's Cubase SX & Nuendo are one thee most stable
>>>DAW's in the business. Logic Audio on a good fast Mac is solid. As is
>
> Sonar
>
>>>& Digital Performer. All i al, I would have to say that all of today's
>
> native
>
>>>DAWs, including ProTools LE & M-Powered are rock solid stable.
>>>
>>>
>>>"Jeremy Luzier" <j.luzier@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Cubase SX
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:43cd77b2@linux...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Can you get a daw with plug in compensation that is rock solid for $2000
>>>>> not counting the computer?
>>>>
>>>>
>

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Re: $2000 daw ? [message #63319 is a reply to message #63315]

Wed, 18 January 2006 09:58

John [1]

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Cubase forums say "You wont be able to hear any effects whilst
recording, but you can keep the buffers high in cubase"

Sound like daws are still in the dark ages. Do any of them let you hear
the effects whilst recording not to mention having plugin latency
compensation. 16 i/os would be nice too.

Gary Flanigan wrote:
> "LaMont" <jjdpro@amerietch.net> wrote:
>
>>I would agree that Steignber's Cubase SX & Nuendo are one thee most stable
>>DAW's in the business. Logic Audio on a good fast Mac is solid. As is Sonar
>>& Digital Performer. All i al, I would have to say that all of today's native
>>DAWs, including ProTools LE & M-Powered are rock solid stable.
>
>
> Does Pro Tools LE & M-Powered have plugin latency compensation?

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Re: $2000 daw ? [message #63323 is a reply to message #63318]

Wed, 18 January 2006 11:11

LaMont
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Registered: October 2005

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or a Mac :)

Stragngley Paris & Pt uses a little bit of native processing,like in PAris
Intelligent mixing or native submixes, DX & VST plugins.. In PT ,Rtas & HTDM
plugsings

John <no@no.com> wrote:
>what defines a native app Lamont, whether any processing is done on
>external hardware or not? native meaning all processing is done by the

>pc right?
>
>LaMont wrote:
>> I thought you meant what native app would I recommend.
>>
>> John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>
>>>So pretty much everything is rock solid except paris. hahaha
>>>
>>>LaMont wrote:
>>>
>>>>I would agree that Steignber's Cubase SX & Nuendo are one thee most stable
>>>>DAW's in the business. Logic Audio on a good fast Mac is solid. As is
>>
>> Sonar
>>
>>>>& Digital Performer. All i al, I would have to say that all of today's
>>
>> native
>>
>>>>DAWs, including ProTools LE & M-Powered are rock solid stable.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Jeremy Luzier" <j.luzier@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Cubase SX
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:43cd77b2@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Can you get a daw with plug in compensation that is rock solid for
$2000
>>>>>> not counting the computer?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>

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Re: $2000 daw ? [message #63325 is a reply to message #63315]

Wed, 18 January 2006 11:19

LaMont
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Registered: October 2005

Senior Member

I don't think so.. but, I may be wrong in Version 7

"Gary Flanigan" <gary_flanigan@ce9.uscourts.gov> wrote:
>
>"LaMont" <jjdpro@amerietch.net> wrote:
>>
>>I would agree that Steignber's Cubase SX & Nuendo are one thee most stable
>>DAW's in the business. Logic Audio on a good fast Mac is solid. As is Sonar
>>& Digital Performer. All i al, I would have to say that all of today's
native
>>DAWs, including ProTools LE & M-Powered are rock solid stable.
>
>Does Pro Tools LE & M-Powered have plugin latency compensation?

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Re: $2000 daw ? [message #63355 is a reply to message #63319]

Wed, 18 January 2006 19:52

Jamie K

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Registered: July 2006

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For me, a dual G5 with Logic is low latency enough to record with
software monitoring enabled, which allows plugin FX to be heard during
tracking (they don't get recorded of course, you can change them later).

Alternatively, some interfaces (MOTU 828MII, for example) offer hardware
monitoring with a set of sends/returns so you can dedicate a hardware
reverb for tracking - if you want the lowest latency, essentially no
latency, signal path.

Cheers,
-Jamie
http://www.JamieKrutz.com

John wrote:
> Cubase forums say "You wont be able to hear any effects whilst
> recording, but you can keep the buffers high in cubase"
>
> Sound like daws are still in the dark ages. Do any of them let you hear
> the effects whilst recording not to mention having plugin latency
> compensation. 16 i/os would be nice too.
>
> Gary Flanigan wrote:
>
>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@amerietch.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I would agree that Steignber's Cubase SX & Nuendo are one thee most
>>> stable
>>> DAW's in the business. Logic Audio on a good fast Mac is solid. As is
>>> Sonar
>>> & Digital Performer. All i al, I would have to say that all of
>>> today's native
>>> DAWs, including ProTools LE & M-Powered are rock solid stable.
>>
>>
>>
>> Does Pro Tools LE & M-Powered have plugin latency compensation?

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