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| Re: Well.........damn!!!.....this sucks....... [message #67622 is a reply to message #67620] |
Wed, 03 May 2006 19:46   |
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Deej [1]
Messages: 2149
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> What does "sucked a valve" mean?
It's an old Texas generality meaning "I'm not sure WTF is going on until I
look but copuld be either a broken valve, burned valve, a worn or broken
camshaft, bent or worn out push rods bad hydraulic lifters or some
combination of all of the above. It could be even worse.....crankshaft woes.
All fluid levels are normal, but when I accellerate it sounds like a small
jackhammer is doing a number under the hood. It gets louder until I get to
between 2500 and 3000 RPM, then it stops when the automatic tranny shifts,
then it stops....then when the RPM's have dropped below 2500 RPM, it starts
again. I haven't noticed any power loss, but it's not good, whatever it
is............so for now, it's a sucked valve. I did notice it blowing a
little bit of blue smoke this morning, but it was cold and I was thinking
condensation.
;oP
"uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:44596730$1@linux...
> So many dogs need major surgery these days, especially the ones who are
> pure-breeds, or close there-to.
>
> You own two of the world's biggest lap-dogs, Deej.
>
> What does "sucked a valve" mean?
>
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> news:44595a69@linux...
> > Sucked a valve in my Honda Passport today. Also, my puppy Crashbasket is
> > gettin' a major hitch in his gitalong and is probably gonna need a hip
> > replacement pretty soon.
> >
> >
>
clicketyclackclicketyclackclicketyclackclicketyclackclickety clackclicketycla
> > ck.....woofwoof!!
> >
> > Maybe I can find a shop to do a two'fer.
> >
> > ;oP
> >
> >
> >
>
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| Re: Well.........damn!!!.....this sucks....... [message #67623 is a reply to message #67622] |
Wed, 03 May 2006 20:12 |
Aaron Allen
Messages: 1988
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Got a oil pressure gauge on that Honda? You might also check the harmonic
balancer, make sure it isn't trying to spin off the crank and into the
radiator (ack!). As I recall my ex had one of these SUV's and it started
puffing blue at less than 100k, and apparantly ( her ex wrecked it for
her... long story ) those motors have a bit of a history with oil pressure
and spun bearings when I started asking around.
Hopin for the best man,
AA
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:44596cab$1@linux...
>> What does "sucked a valve" mean?
>
> It's an old Texas generality meaning "I'm not sure WTF is going on until I
> look but copuld be either a broken valve, burned valve, a worn or broken
> camshaft, bent or worn out push rods bad hydraulic lifters or some
> combination of all of the above. It could be even worse.....crankshaft
> woes.
> All fluid levels are normal, but when I accellerate it sounds like a small
> jackhammer is doing a number under the hood. It gets louder until I get to
> between 2500 and 3000 RPM, then it stops when the automatic tranny shifts,
> then it stops....then when the RPM's have dropped below 2500 RPM, it
> starts
> again. I haven't noticed any power loss, but it's not good, whatever it
> is............so for now, it's a sucked valve. I did notice it blowing a
> little bit of blue smoke this morning, but it was cold and I was thinking
> condensation.
>
> ;oP
>
>
> "uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:44596730$1@linux...
>> So many dogs need major surgery these days, especially the ones who are
>> pure-breeds, or close there-to.
>>
>> You own two of the world's biggest lap-dogs, Deej.
>>
>> What does "sucked a valve" mean?
>>
>>
>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>> news:44595a69@linux...
>> > Sucked a valve in my Honda Passport today. Also, my puppy Crashbasket
>> > is
>> > gettin' a major hitch in his gitalong and is probably gonna need a hip
>> > replacement pretty soon.
>> >
>> >
>>
> clicketyclackclicketyclackclicketyclackclicketyclackclickety clackclicketycla
>> > ck.....woofwoof!!
>> >
>> > Maybe I can find a shop to do a two'fer.
>> >
>> > ;oP
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
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| Re: Well.........damn!!!.....this sucks....... [message #67624 is a reply to message #67623] |
Wed, 03 May 2006 20:38 |
Deej [1]
Messages: 2149
Registered: January 2006
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It may well be spun bearings. I did that to a Mercedes once and the sound is
sorta familiar (shit......I'd forgotten about that, but I'll bet'cha that's
what it is. It's got 143000 miles on it. I really like this old truck. It's
the perfect size for my needs and gets great gas mileage. The pirates down
at the shop where I took it told me that a new engine costs $6800 plus 20
hours @ $70.00 per to install it. He said he could get me a short block for
$4000.00. I've already found a long block for $2800.00 (I return the core in
the shipping crate) with a 3 year warranty. I've also found another one with
40K miles for $1300.00. I know that there are other issues that *always*
come up and that it's always a crapshoot to do this, but this puppy is paid
off and I like it better than the new trucks I've driven recently (Dodge
Durango and some Ford thing that I can't remember the name of). Dropping $3k
to get a few years more out of this truck would be fine by me. I've not
really spent anything on it in 3 years other than for routine maintenance.
I know guys in this town who can literally yank the engine and install a
rebuilt engine in 8 hours. They are the best of the best and are on
permanent retainer to maintain multimillion dollar engines that power the
big Halliburton equipment that is used in drilling and completing gas wells.
One of these guys has a complete machine shop and could probably just fix it
better than it was when it was new. He also repairs farm equipment (those
giant, incredibly expensive harvesters/combines/bailing machines) and just
abount anything you can think of. He's got it all and could repair something
like this blindfolded.
;o)
"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
news:44597032$1@linux...
> Got a oil pressure gauge on that Honda? You might also check the harmonic
> balancer, make sure it isn't trying to spin off the crank and into the
> radiator (ack!). As I recall my ex had one of these SUV's and it started
> puffing blue at less than 100k, and apparantly ( her ex wrecked it for
> her... long story ) those motors have a bit of a history with oil pressure
> and spun bearings when I started asking around.
>
> Hopin for the best man,
> AA
>
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> news:44596cab$1@linux...
> >> What does "sucked a valve" mean?
> >
> > It's an old Texas generality meaning "I'm not sure WTF is going on until
I
> > look but copuld be either a broken valve, burned valve, a worn or broken
> > camshaft, bent or worn out push rods bad hydraulic lifters or some
> > combination of all of the above. It could be even worse.....crankshaft
> > woes.
> > All fluid levels are normal, but when I accellerate it sounds like a
small
> > jackhammer is doing a number under the hood. It gets louder until I get
to
> > between 2500 and 3000 RPM, then it stops when the automatic tranny
shifts,
> > then it stops....then when the RPM's have dropped below 2500 RPM, it
> > starts
> > again. I haven't noticed any power loss, but it's not good, whatever it
> > is............so for now, it's a sucked valve. I did notice it blowing a
> > little bit of blue smoke this morning, but it was cold and I was
thinking
> > condensation.
> >
> > ;oP
> >
> >
> > "uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> > news:44596730$1@linux...
> >> So many dogs need major surgery these days, especially the ones who are
> >> pure-breeds, or close there-to.
> >>
> >> You own two of the world's biggest lap-dogs, Deej.
> >>
> >> What does "sucked a valve" mean?
> >>
> >>
> >> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> >> news:44595a69@linux...
> >> > Sucked a valve in my Honda Passport today. Also, my puppy Crashbasket
> >> > is
> >> > gettin' a major hitch in his gitalong and is probably gonna need a
hip
> >> > replacement pretty soon.
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
clicketyclackclicketyclackclicketyclackclicketyclackclickety clackclicketycla
> >> > ck.....woofwoof!!
> >> >
> >> > Maybe I can find a shop to do a two'fer.
> >> >
> >> > ;oP
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
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| Re: Well.........damn!!!.....this sucks....... [message #67629 is a reply to message #67624] |
Wed, 03 May 2006 22:56 |
RZ
Messages: 61
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Does he make house calls?
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:44597904@linux...
> It may well be spun bearings. I did that to a Mercedes once and the sound
> is
> sorta familiar (shit......I'd forgotten about that, but I'll bet'cha
> that's
> what it is. It's got 143000 miles on it. I really like this old truck.
> It's
> the perfect size for my needs and gets great gas mileage. The pirates down
> at the shop where I took it told me that a new engine costs $6800 plus 20
> hours @ $70.00 per to install it. He said he could get me a short block
> for
> $4000.00. I've already found a long block for $2800.00 (I return the core
> in
> the shipping crate) with a 3 year warranty. I've also found another one
> with
> 40K miles for $1300.00. I know that there are other issues that *always*
> come up and that it's always a crapshoot to do this, but this puppy is
> paid
> off and I like it better than the new trucks I've driven recently (Dodge
> Durango and some Ford thing that I can't remember the name of). Dropping
> $3k
> to get a few years more out of this truck would be fine by me. I've not
> really spent anything on it in 3 years other than for routine maintenance.
> I know guys in this town who can literally yank the engine and install a
> rebuilt engine in 8 hours. They are the best of the best and are on
> permanent retainer to maintain multimillion dollar engines that power the
> big Halliburton equipment that is used in drilling and completing gas
> wells.
> One of these guys has a complete machine shop and could probably just fix
> it
> better than it was when it was new. He also repairs farm equipment (those
> giant, incredibly expensive harvesters/combines/bailing machines) and just
> abount anything you can think of. He's got it all and could repair
> something
> like this blindfolded.
>
> ;o)
>
> "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
> news:44597032$1@linux...
>> Got a oil pressure gauge on that Honda? You might also check the harmonic
>> balancer, make sure it isn't trying to spin off the crank and into the
>> radiator (ack!). As I recall my ex had one of these SUV's and it started
>> puffing blue at less than 100k, and apparantly ( her ex wrecked it for
>> her... long story ) those motors have a bit of a history with oil
>> pressure
>> and spun bearings when I started asking around.
>>
>> Hopin for the best man,
>> AA
>>
>>
>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>> news:44596cab$1@linux...
>> >> What does "sucked a valve" mean?
>> >
>> > It's an old Texas generality meaning "I'm not sure WTF is going on
>> > until
> I
>> > look but copuld be either a broken valve, burned valve, a worn or
>> > broken
>> > camshaft, bent or worn out push rods bad hydraulic lifters or some
>> > combination of all of the above. It could be even worse.....crankshaft
>> > woes.
>> > All fluid levels are normal, but when I accellerate it sounds like a
> small
>> > jackhammer is doing a number under the hood. It gets louder until I get
> to
>> > between 2500 and 3000 RPM, then it stops when the automatic tranny
> shifts,
>> > then it stops....then when the RPM's have dropped below 2500 RPM, it
>> > starts
>> > again. I haven't noticed any power loss, but it's not good, whatever it
>> > is............so for now, it's a sucked valve. I did notice it blowing
>> > a
>> > little bit of blue smoke this morning, but it was cold and I was
> thinking
>> > condensation.
>> >
>> > ;oP
>> >
>> >
>> > "uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>> > news:44596730$1@linux...
>> >> So many dogs need major surgery these days, especially the ones who
>> >> are
>> >> pure-breeds, or close there-to.
>> >>
>> >> You own two of the world's biggest lap-dogs, Deej.
>> >>
>> >> What does "sucked a valve" mean?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>> >> news:44595a69@linux...
>> >> > Sucked a valve in my Honda Passport today. Also, my puppy
>> >> > Crashbasket
>> >> > is
>> >> > gettin' a major hitch in his gitalong and is probably gonna need a
> hip
>> >> > replacement pretty soon.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
> clicketyclackclicketyclackclicketyclackclicketyclackclickety clackclicketycla
>> >> > ck.....woofwoof!!
>> >> >
>> >> > Maybe I can find a shop to do a two'fer.
>> >> >
>> >> > ;oP
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
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| Re: Well.........damn!!!.....this sucks....... [message #67655 is a reply to message #67629] |
Thu, 04 May 2006 06:48 |
Deej [1]
Messages: 2149
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Nope.....but he's got a tow truck.
;o)
"RZ" <pearlmusic@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:445996b7@linux...
> Does he make house calls?
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> news:44597904@linux...
> > It may well be spun bearings. I did that to a Mercedes once and the
sound
> > is
> > sorta familiar (shit......I'd forgotten about that, but I'll bet'cha
> > that's
> > what it is. It's got 143000 miles on it. I really like this old truck.
> > It's
> > the perfect size for my needs and gets great gas mileage. The pirates
down
> > at the shop where I took it told me that a new engine costs $6800 plus
20
> > hours @ $70.00 per to install it. He said he could get me a short block
> > for
> > $4000.00. I've already found a long block for $2800.00 (I return the
core
> > in
> > the shipping crate) with a 3 year warranty. I've also found another one
> > with
> > 40K miles for $1300.00. I know that there are other issues that *always*
> > come up and that it's always a crapshoot to do this, but this puppy is
> > paid
> > off and I like it better than the new trucks I've driven recently (Dodge
> > Durango and some Ford thing that I can't remember the name of). Dropping
> > $3k
> > to get a few years more out of this truck would be fine by me. I've not
> > really spent anything on it in 3 years other than for routine
maintenance.
> > I know guys in this town who can literally yank the engine and install a
> > rebuilt engine in 8 hours. They are the best of the best and are on
> > permanent retainer to maintain multimillion dollar engines that power
the
> > big Halliburton equipment that is used in drilling and completing gas
> > wells.
> > One of these guys has a complete machine shop and could probably just
fix
> > it
> > better than it was when it was new. He also repairs farm equipment
(those
> > giant, incredibly expensive harvesters/combines/bailing machines) and
just
> > abount anything you can think of. He's got it all and could repair
> > something
> > like this blindfolded.
> >
> > ;o)
> >
> > "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
> > news:44597032$1@linux...
> >> Got a oil pressure gauge on that Honda? You might also check the
harmonic
> >> balancer, make sure it isn't trying to spin off the crank and into the
> >> radiator (ack!). As I recall my ex had one of these SUV's and it
started
> >> puffing blue at less than 100k, and apparantly ( her ex wrecked it for
> >> her... long story ) those motors have a bit of a history with oil
> >> pressure
> >> and spun bearings when I started asking around.
> >>
> >> Hopin for the best man,
> >> AA
> >>
> >>
> >> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> >> news:44596cab$1@linux...
> >> >> What does "sucked a valve" mean?
> >> >
> >> > It's an old Texas generality meaning "I'm not sure WTF is going on
> >> > until
> > I
> >> > look but copuld be either a broken valve, burned valve, a worn or
> >> > broken
> >> > camshaft, bent or worn out push rods bad hydraulic lifters or some
> >> > combination of all of the above. It could be even
worse.....crankshaft
> >> > woes.
> >> > All fluid levels are normal, but when I accellerate it sounds like a
> > small
> >> > jackhammer is doing a number under the hood. It gets louder until I
get
> > to
> >> > between 2500 and 3000 RPM, then it stops when the automatic tranny
> > shifts,
> >> > then it stops....then when the RPM's have dropped below 2500 RPM, it
> >> > starts
> >> > again. I haven't noticed any power loss, but it's not good, whatever
it
> >> > is............so for now, it's a sucked valve. I did notice it
blowing
> >> > a
> >> > little bit of blue smoke this morning, but it was cold and I was
> > thinking
> >> > condensation.
> >> >
> >> > ;oP
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> >> > news:44596730$1@linux...
> >> >> So many dogs need major surgery these days, especially the ones who
> >> >> are
> >> >> pure-breeds, or close there-to.
> >> >>
> >> >> You own two of the world's biggest lap-dogs, Deej.
> >> >>
> >> >> What does "sucked a valve" mean?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> >> >> news:44595a69@linux...
> >> >> > Sucked a valve in my Honda Passport today. Also, my puppy
> >> >> > Crashbasket
> >> >> > is
> >> >> > gettin' a major hitch in his gitalong and is probably gonna need a
> > hip
> >> >> > replacement pretty soon.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >
> >
clicketyclackclicketyclackclicketyclackclicketyclackclickety clackclicketycla
> >> >> > ck.....woofwoof!!
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Maybe I can find a shop to do a two'fer.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > ;oP
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
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| Re: Well.........damn!!!.....this sucks....... [message #67659 is a reply to message #67622] |
Thu, 04 May 2006 07:31 |
EK Sound
Messages: 939
Registered: June 2005
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Knocking under acceleration generally points to a con-rod bearing...
deceleration, a wrist pin.
David.
DJ wrote:
>>What does "sucked a valve" mean?
>
>
> It's an old Texas generality meaning "I'm not sure WTF is going on until I
> look but copuld be either a broken valve, burned valve, a worn or broken
> camshaft, bent or worn out push rods bad hydraulic lifters or some
> combination of all of the above. It could be even worse.....crankshaft woes.
> All fluid levels are normal, but when I accellerate it sounds like a small
> jackhammer is doing a number under the hood. It gets louder until I get to
> between 2500 and 3000 RPM, then it stops when the automatic tranny shifts,
> then it stops....then when the RPM's have dropped below 2500 RPM, it starts
> again. I haven't noticed any power loss, but it's not good, whatever it
> is............so for now, it's a sucked valve. I did notice it blowing a
> little bit of blue smoke this morning, but it was cold and I was thinking
> condensation.
>
> ;oP
>
>
> "uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:44596730$1@linux...
>
>>So many dogs need major surgery these days, especially the ones who are
>>pure-breeds, or close there-to.
>>
>>You own two of the world's biggest lap-dogs, Deej.
>>
>>What does "sucked a valve" mean?
>>
>>
>>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>>news:44595a69@linux...
>>
>>>Sucked a valve in my Honda Passport today. Also, my puppy Crashbasket is
>>>gettin' a major hitch in his gitalong and is probably gonna need a hip
>>>replacement pretty soon.
>>>
>>>
>>
> clicketyclackclicketyclackclicketyclackclicketyclackclickety clackclicketycla
>
>>>ck.....woofwoof!!
>>>
>>>Maybe I can find a shop to do a two'fer.
>>>
>>>;oP
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
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| Re: Well.........damn!!!.....this sucks....... [message #67698 is a reply to message #67624] |
Thu, 04 May 2006 20:03 |
Mike Claytor
Messages: 32
Registered: October 2006
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Collapsed lifter?
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>It may well be spun bearings. I did that to a Mercedes once and the sound
is
>sorta familiar (shit......I'd forgotten about that, but I'll bet'cha that's
>what it is. It's got 143000 miles on it. I really like this old truck. It's
>the perfect size for my needs and gets great gas mileage. The pirates down
>at the shop where I took it told me that a new engine costs $6800 plus 20
>hours @ $70.00 per to install it. He said he could get me a short block
for
>$4000.00. I've already found a long block for $2800.00 (I return the core
in
>the shipping crate) with a 3 year warranty. I've also found another one
with
>40K miles for $1300.00. I know that there are other issues that *always*
>come up and that it's always a crapshoot to do this, but this puppy is paid
>off and I like it better than the new trucks I've driven recently (Dodge
>Durango and some Ford thing that I can't remember the name of). Dropping
$3k
>to get a few years more out of this truck would be fine by me. I've not
>really spent anything on it in 3 years other than for routine maintenance.
>I know guys in this town who can literally yank the engine and install a
>rebuilt engine in 8 hours. They are the best of the best and are on
>permanent retainer to maintain multimillion dollar engines that power the
>big Halliburton equipment that is used in drilling and completing gas wells.
>One of these guys has a complete machine shop and could probably just fix
it
>better than it was when it was new. He also repairs farm equipment (those
>giant, incredibly expensive harvesters/combines/bailing machines) and just
>abount anything you can think of. He's got it all and could repair something
>like this blindfolded.
>
>;o)
>
>"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>news:44597032$1@linux...
>> Got a oil pressure gauge on that Honda? You might also check the harmonic
>> balancer, make sure it isn't trying to spin off the crank and into the
>> radiator (ack!). As I recall my ex had one of these SUV's and it started
>> puffing blue at less than 100k, and apparantly ( her ex wrecked it for
>> her... long story ) those motors have a bit of a history with oil pressure
>> and spun bearings when I started asking around.
>>
>> Hopin for the best man,
>> AA
>>
>>
>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>> news:44596cab$1@linux...
>> >> What does "sucked a valve" mean?
>> >
>> > It's an old Texas generality meaning "I'm not sure WTF is going on until
>I
>> > look but copuld be either a broken valve, burned valve, a worn or broken
>> > camshaft, bent or worn out push rods bad hydraulic lifters or some
>> > combination of all of the above. It could be even worse.....crankshaft
>> > woes.
>> > All fluid levels are normal, but when I accellerate it sounds like a
>small
>> > jackhammer is doing a number under the hood. It gets louder until I
get
>to
>> > between 2500 and 3000 RPM, then it stops when the automatic tranny
>shifts,
>> > then it stops....then when the RPM's have dropped below 2500 RPM, it
>> > starts
>> > again. I haven't noticed any power loss, but it's not good, whatever
it
>> > is............so for now, it's a sucked valve. I did notice it blowing
a
>> > little bit of blue smoke this morning, but it was cold and I was
>thinking
>> > condensation.
>> >
>> > ;oP
>> >
>> >
>> > "uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>> > news:44596730$1@linux...
>> >> So many dogs need major surgery these days, especially the ones who
are
>> >> pure-breeds, or close there-to.
>> >>
>> >> You own two of the world's biggest lap-dogs, Deej.
>> >>
>> >> What does "sucked a valve" mean?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>> >> news:44595a69@linux...
>> >> > Sucked a valve in my Honda Passport today. Also, my puppy Crashbasket
>> >> > is
>> >> > gettin' a major hitch in his gitalong and is probably gonna need
a
>hip
>> >> > replacement pretty soon.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
> clicketyclackclicketyclackclicketyclackclicketyclackclickety clackclicketycla
>> >> > ck.....woofwoof!!
>> >> >
>> >> > Maybe I can find a shop to do a two'fer.
>> >> >
>> >> > ;oP
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>> http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>>
>>
>
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