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Paris Configuration settings [message #79420] Fri, 02 February 2007 12:37 Go to next message
RZ is currently offline  RZ   UNITED STATES
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Registered: July 2005
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I should probably know this since I've been using Paris for almost 8 years,
but can anyone enlighten me on ideal configuration settings (disk I/O, disk
cache size)? Are there any issues with standard format NTFS drives? I've
been using a 3 card system on XP for a couple years and now use the Seagate
drives with 16MB cache, but still have problems doing punches with more than
2 tracks. I always get the pesky "data could not be streamed fast enough,
set playback for a slower machine", message as the playback chokes. It
seems I got better performance years ago on a Pentium II. And what the heck
is a manual punch delay? Any input would be much appreciated, thanks.
Richard
Re: Paris Configuration settings [message #79422 is a reply to message #79420] Fri, 02 February 2007 15:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John [1] is currently offline  John [1]
Messages: 2229
Registered: September 2005
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Some samples are under Setup / paris.cfg at http://www.kfocus.com/paris/
Also, set your punch in to medium or long

"RZ" <pearlmusic@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>I should probably know this since I've been using Paris for almost 8 years,

>but can anyone enlighten me on ideal configuration settings (disk I/O, disk

>cache size)? Are there any issues with standard format NTFS drives? I've

>been using a 3 card system on XP for a couple years and now use the Seagate

>drives with 16MB cache, but still have problems doing punches with more
than
>2 tracks. I always get the pesky "data could not be streamed fast enough,

>set playback for a slower machine", message as the playback chokes. It

>seems I got better performance years ago on a Pentium II. And what the
heck
>is a manual punch delay? Any input would be much appreciated, thanks.
>Richard
>
>
>
>
Re: Paris Configuration settings [message #79423 is a reply to message #79422] Fri, 02 February 2007 14:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
RZ is currently offline  RZ   UNITED STATES
Messages: 61
Registered: July 2005
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Thanks John,
There's a whole lot of interesting info on that site. I still don't know
what a manual punch delay is, but I think it being set to short was my
problem. Easy fix. Thanks again.


"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:45c3b574$1@linux...
>
> Some samples are under Setup / paris.cfg at http://www.kfocus.com/paris/
> Also, set your punch in to medium or long
>
> "RZ" <pearlmusic@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>I should probably know this since I've been using Paris for almost 8
>>years,
>
>>but can anyone enlighten me on ideal configuration settings (disk I/O,
>>disk
>
>>cache size)? Are there any issues with standard format NTFS drives? I've
>
>>been using a 3 card system on XP for a couple years and now use the
>>Seagate
>
>>drives with 16MB cache, but still have problems doing punches with more
> than
>>2 tracks. I always get the pesky "data could not be streamed fast enough,
>
>>set playback for a slower machine", message as the playback chokes. It
>
>>seems I got better performance years ago on a Pentium II. And what the
> heck
>>is a manual punch delay? Any input would be much appreciated, thanks.
>>Richard
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
Re: Paris Configuration settings [message #79427 is a reply to message #79423] Fri, 02 February 2007 16:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John [1] is currently offline  John [1]
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Registered: September 2005
Senior Member
I think it means when you do a punch by pressing record while in play or by
enabling through the jack on the back of the C16 that Paris will have a slight
delay before the punch happens and this setting deterimes that. For a screaming
pc with nothing going in short would work. Medium and long have been most
popular though and if you just pick long you can always slide the ends of
the track to adjust it to be just right after the recording is done.

"RZ" <pearlmusic@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>Thanks John,
>There's a whole lot of interesting info on that site. I still don't know

>what a manual punch delay is, but I think it being set to short was my
>problem. Easy fix. Thanks again.
>
>
>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:45c3b574$1@linux...
>>
>> Some samples are under Setup / paris.cfg at http://www.kfocus.com/paris/
>> Also, set your punch in to medium or long
>>
>> "RZ" <pearlmusic@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>I should probably know this since I've been using Paris for almost 8
>>>years,
>>
>>>but can anyone enlighten me on ideal configuration settings (disk I/O,

>>>disk
>>
>>>cache size)? Are there any issues with standard format NTFS drives?
I've
>>
>>>been using a 3 card system on XP for a couple years and now use the
>>>Seagate
>>
>>>drives with 16MB cache, but still have problems doing punches with more
>> than
>>>2 tracks. I always get the pesky "data could not be streamed fast enough,
>>
>>>set playback for a slower machine", message as the playback chokes. It
>>
>>>seems I got better performance years ago on a Pentium II. And what the
>> heck
>>>is a manual punch delay? Any input would be much appreciated, thanks.
>>>Richard
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
Re: Paris Configuration settings [message #79428 is a reply to message #79423] Fri, 02 February 2007 15:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
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Registered: May 2008
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It has to do with record ready buffer.. short delay means the time between
when you hit 'record' and when it actually starts to record is a shorter
time than say medium or long. On a smaller EDS system, short is cool but get
past a 2 or 3 card system and things start getting a little whacky. Besides,
Paris' punch isn't exactly super tight so generally you'll end up punching a
little early and peeling back in the editor anyway.

AA

"RZ" <pearlmusic@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:45c3bb7b$1@linux...
> Thanks John,
> There's a whole lot of interesting info on that site. I still don't know
> what a manual punch delay is, but I think it being set to short was my
> problem. Easy fix. Thanks again.
>
>
> "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:45c3b574$1@linux...
>>
>> Some samples are under Setup / paris.cfg at
>> http://www.kfocus.com/paris/
>> Also, set your punch in to medium or long
>>
>> "RZ" <pearlmusic@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>I should probably know this since I've been using Paris for almost 8
>>>years,
>>
>>>but can anyone enlighten me on ideal configuration settings (disk I/O,
>>>disk
>>
>>>cache size)? Are there any issues with standard format NTFS drives?
>>>I've
>>
>>>been using a 3 card system on XP for a couple years and now use the
>>>Seagate
>>
>>>drives with 16MB cache, but still have problems doing punches with more
>> than
>>>2 tracks. I always get the pesky "data could not be streamed fast
>>>enough,
>>
>>>set playback for a slower machine", message as the playback chokes. It
>>
>>>seems I got better performance years ago on a Pentium II. And what the
>> heck
>>>is a manual punch delay? Any input would be much appreciated, thanks.
>>>Richard
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
Re: Paris Configuration settings [message #79432 is a reply to message #79428] Fri, 02 February 2007 19:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John Macy is currently offline  John Macy
Messages: 242
Registered: April 2006
Senior Member
Also for me, doing a bunch of tracks like a drum punch,
using autopunch works a whole lot better than manual...


"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>It has to do with record ready buffer.. short delay means the time between

>when you hit 'record' and when it actually starts to record is a shorter

>time than say medium or long. On a smaller EDS system, short is cool but
get
>past a 2 or 3 card system and things start getting a little whacky. Besides,

>Paris' punch isn't exactly super tight so generally you'll end up punching
a
>little early and peeling back in the editor anyway.
>
>AA
>
>"RZ" <pearlmusic@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:45c3bb7b$1@linux...
>> Thanks John,
>> There's a whole lot of interesting info on that site. I still don't know

>> what a manual punch delay is, but I think it being set to short was my

>> problem. Easy fix. Thanks again.
>>
>>
>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:45c3b574$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Some samples are under Setup / paris.cfg at
>>> http://www.kfocus.com/paris/
>>> Also, set your punch in to medium or long
>>>
>>> "RZ" <pearlmusic@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>I should probably know this since I've been using Paris for almost 8

>>>>years,
>>>
>>>>but can anyone enlighten me on ideal configuration settings (disk I/O,

>>>>disk
>>>
>>>>cache size)? Are there any issues with standard format NTFS drives?

>>>>I've
>>>
>>>>been using a 3 card system on XP for a couple years and now use the
>>>>Seagate
>>>
>>>>drives with 16MB cache, but still have problems doing punches with more
>>> than
>>>>2 tracks. I always get the pesky "data could not be streamed fast
>>>>enough,
>>>
>>>>set playback for a slower machine", message as the playback chokes.
It
>>>
>>>>seems I got better performance years ago on a Pentium II. And what the
>>> heck
>>>>is a manual punch delay? Any input would be much appreciated, thanks.
>>>>Richard
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Re: Paris Configuration settings [message #79434 is a reply to message #79432] Sat, 03 February 2007 03:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John [1] is currently offline  John [1]
Messages: 2229
Registered: September 2005
Senior Member
I always liked to set the punch a couple bars ahead of my desired point so
I could monitor the instrument up to the punch. The let me play on the groove
instead of being silent and then being told GO!

Then just slide the object's left edge to the right covering up the "pre-roll"
part.

John
Re: Paris Configuration settings [message #79449 is a reply to message #79427] Sat, 03 February 2007 17:17 Go to previous message
Rob Arsenault is currently offline  Rob Arsenault   CANADA
Messages: 152
Registered: September 2005
Senior Member
One thing I noticed and could reproduce while tracking drums last week was
that Paris will punchin better and not show its ugly "data could not be
streamed...yadayada error" as much if you clear all takes/splices after the
now line on the tracks being recorded. Must be a HD seek / through-put
issues.

3 card sys on ME, 1.4Gig Athlon

Rob


"john" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:45c3c777$1@linux...
>
> I think it means when you do a punch by pressing record while in play or
> by
> enabling through the jack on the back of the C16 that Paris will have a
> slight
> delay before the punch happens and this setting deterimes that. For a
> screaming
> pc with nothing going in short would work. Medium and long have been most
> popular though and if you just pick long you can always slide the ends of
> the track to adjust it to be just right after the recording is done.
>
> "RZ" <pearlmusic@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>Thanks John,
>>There's a whole lot of interesting info on that site. I still don't know
>
>>what a manual punch delay is, but I think it being set to short was my
>>problem. Easy fix. Thanks again.
>>
>>
>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:45c3b574$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Some samples are under Setup / paris.cfg at
>>> http://www.kfocus.com/paris/
>>> Also, set your punch in to medium or long
>>>
>>> "RZ" <pearlmusic@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>I should probably know this since I've been using Paris for almost 8
>>>>years,
>>>
>>>>but can anyone enlighten me on ideal configuration settings (disk I/O,
>
>>>>disk
>>>
>>>>cache size)? Are there any issues with standard format NTFS drives?
> I've
>>>
>>>>been using a 3 card system on XP for a couple years and now use the
>>>>Seagate
>>>
>>>>drives with 16MB cache, but still have problems doing punches with more
>>> than
>>>>2 tracks. I always get the pesky "data could not be streamed fast
>>>>enough,
>>>
>>>>set playback for a slower machine", message as the playback chokes. It
>>>
>>>>seems I got better performance years ago on a Pentium II. And what the
>>> heck
>>>>is a manual punch delay? Any input would be much appreciated, thanks.
>>>>Richard
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
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