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OT: KSP8 vs. TC M3000 vs......? [message #85549] Tue, 29 May 2007 13:31 Go to next message
Dale is currently offline  Dale   
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I do mostly acoustic music, and I’ve not been blown away with the
reverb I’ve gotten from the Lexicon PCM70 (I’ve heard people
love them on drums & certain things) and am thinking to
sell/trade it towards something else. I’ve heard great things
about TC M3000 and Kurzweil KSP8. I’m wondering if the KSP8 has
enough advantages over the M3000 to justify the higher price tag,
when what I basically need are nice reverbs for acoustic music.
Or is there another killer unit out there that might accomplish
this (for, say under a grand)?

Thanks,
Dale
Re: KSP8 vs. TC M3000 vs......? [message #85552 is a reply to message #85549] Tue, 29 May 2007 13:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sanbar is currently offline  Sanbar   UNITED STATES
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"dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:465c8db2$1@linux...
>
> I do mostly acoustic music, and I've not been blown away with the
> reverb I've gotten from the Lexicon PCM70 (I've heard people
> love them on drums & certain things) and am thinking to
> sell/trade it towards something else. I've heard great things
> about TC M3000 and Kurzweil KSP8. I'm wondering if the KSP8 has
> enough advantages over the M3000 to justify the higher price tag,
> when what I basically need are nice reverbs for acoustic music.
> Or is there another killer unit out there that might accomplish
> this (for, say under a grand)?
>
> Thanks,
> Dale

I have the M3000 and love it. It's very clean. I do mostly acoustic stuff
myself.
Re: KSP8 vs. TC M3000 vs......? [message #85563 is a reply to message #85549] Tue, 29 May 2007 16:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Deej [4] is currently offline  Deej [4]   UNITED STATES
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The Kurzweil Rumor might be all you need.....if Kurzweil is your choice.

Deej

"dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> I do mostly acoustic music, and I've not been blown away with the
> reverb I've gotten from the Lexicon PCM70 (I've heard people
> love them on drums & certain things) and am thinking to
> sell/trade it towards something else. I've heard great things
> about TC M3000 and Kurzweil KSP8. I'm wondering if the KSP8 has
> enough advantages over the M3000 to justify the higher price tag,
> when what I basically need are nice reverbs for acoustic music.
> Or is there another killer unit out there that might accomplish
> this (for, say under a grand)?
>
> Thanks,
> Dale
Re: KSP8 vs. TC M3000 vs......? [message #85568 is a reply to message #85563] Tue, 29 May 2007 17:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
George Axon is currently offline  George Axon
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I also have the M3000 - it's very nice!

"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>The Kurzweil Rumor might be all you need.....if Kurzweil is your choice.
>
>Deej
>
>"dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:465c8db2$1@linux...
>>
>> I do mostly acoustic music, and I've not been blown away with the
>> reverb I've gotten from the Lexicon PCM70 (I've heard people
>> love them on drums & certain things) and am thinking to
>> sell/trade it towards something else. I've heard great things
>> about TC M3000 and Kurzweil KSP8. I'm wondering if the KSP8 has
>> enough advantages over the M3000 to justify the higher price tag,
>> when what I basically need are nice reverbs for acoustic music.
>> Or is there another killer unit out there that might accomplish
>> this (for, say under a grand)?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Dale
>
>
Re: KSP8 vs. TC M3000 vs......? [message #85575 is a reply to message #85568] Tue, 29 May 2007 19:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chris Lang is currently offline  Chris Lang
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Another vote for the M3000-

If you like the Paris EDS plate reverb at all, you will
LOVE the M3000- it is so unobtrusive but real.

However, my friend Darren Rahn makes a living as a producer,
among other things, and really loves the KSP8...

Chris



"George Axon" <georgeaxon@rogers.com> wrote:
>
>I also have the M3000 - it's very nice!
>
>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>The Kurzweil Rumor might be all you need.....if Kurzweil is your choice.
>>
>>Deej
>>
>>"dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:465c8db2$1@linux...
>>>
>>> I do mostly acoustic music, and I've not been blown away with the
>>> reverb I've gotten from the Lexicon PCM70 (I've heard people
>>> love them on drums & certain things) and am thinking to
>>> sell/trade it towards something else. I've heard great things
>>> about TC M3000 and Kurzweil KSP8. I'm wondering if the KSP8 has
>>> enough advantages over the M3000 to justify the higher price tag,
>>> when what I basically need are nice reverbs for acoustic music.
>>> Or is there another killer unit out there that might accomplish
>>> this (for, say under a grand)?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Dale
>>
>>
>
Re: KSP8 vs. TC M3000 vs......? [message #85583 is a reply to message #85575] Tue, 29 May 2007 20:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I've heard the KSP-8 and it is very nice and natural. Brian T sold his =
M 6000 as I recall
after substituting it's reverbs with the KSP-8. I think that was the =
deal anyway.
Kurly Rumor is serious bang/buck if reverb is the only thing you're =
looking for.
Tom

"Chris Lang" <yo@yo.yo> wrote in message news:465cdf13$1@linux...

Another vote for the M3000-

If you like the Paris EDS plate reverb at all, you will
LOVE the M3000- it is so unobtrusive but real.

However, my friend Darren Rahn makes a living as a producer,
among other things, and really loves the KSP8...

Chris



"George Axon" <georgeaxon@rogers.com> wrote:
>
>I also have the M3000 - it's very nice!
>
>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>The Kurzweil Rumor might be all you need.....if Kurzweil is your =
choice.
>>
>>Deej
>>
>>"dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote in message=20
>>news:465c8db2$1@linux...
>>>
>>> I do mostly acoustic music, and I've not been blown away with the
>>> reverb I've gotten from the Lexicon PCM70 (I've heard people
>>> love them on drums & certain things) and am thinking to
>>> sell/trade it towards something else. I've heard great things
>>> about TC M3000 and Kurzweil KSP8. I'm wondering if the KSP8 has
>>> enough advantages over the M3000 to justify the higher price tag,
>>> when what I basically need are nice reverbs for acoustic music.
>>> Or is there another killer unit out there that might accomplish
>>> this (for, say under a grand)?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Dale=20
>>
>>
>



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Re: KSP8 vs. TC M3000 vs......? [message #85639 is a reply to message #85575] Wed, 30 May 2007 08:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gary Flanigan is currently offline  Gary Flanigan
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I love my M3000. But depending on how you plan to use it, a good convolution
reverb might work as well for you and cost less.
Re: KSP8 vs. TC M3000 vs......? [message #85669 is a reply to message #85549] Wed, 30 May 2007 14:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mikael Bergstrom is currently offline  Mikael Bergstrom   SWEDEN
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Hello Dale

Go for the TC M3000, i just love it.

Regards
Mikael
Sweden

"dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:465c8db2$1@linux...
>
> I do mostly acoustic music, and I’ve not been blown away with the
> reverb I’ve gotten from the Lexicon PCM70 (I’ve heard people
> love them on drums & certain things) and am thinking to
> sell/trade it towards something else. I’ve heard great things
> about TC M3000 and Kurzweil KSP8. I’m wondering if the KSP8 has
> enough advantages over the M3000 to justify the higher price tag,
> when what I basically need are nice reverbs for acoustic music.
> Or is there another killer unit out there that might accomplish
> this (for, say under a grand)?
>
> Thanks,
> Dale
Re: OT: KSP8 vs. TC M3000 vs......? [message #85671 is a reply to message #85549] Wed, 30 May 2007 14:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
LaMont is currently offline  LaMont
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The Kurzweil is much more versatile. Rooms and plates, halls are all winners.
The TC is 2 trick pony in comparison.


"dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>I do mostly acoustic music, and I’ve not been blown away with the
> reverb I’ve gotten from the Lexicon PCM70 (I’ve heard people
>love them on drums & certain things) and am thinking to
>sell/trade it towards something else. I’ve heard great things
>about TC M3000 and Kurzweil KSP8. I’m wondering if the KSP8 has
>enough advantages over the M3000 to justify the higher price tag,
> when what I basically need are nice reverbs for acoustic music.
>Or is there another killer unit out there that might accomplish
>this (for, say under a grand)?
>
>Thanks,
>Dale
Re: OT: KSP8 vs. TC M3000 vs......? [message #85717 is a reply to message #85671] Thu, 31 May 2007 11:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John Macy is currently offline  John Macy
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I have both units interfaced on my mix rig all
the time. If I had to give up one, the TC would
get the walking papers, even though I love it, too...:)



"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>The Kurzweil is much more versatile. Rooms and plates, halls are all winners.
>The TC is 2 trick pony in comparison.
>
>
>"dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>I do mostly acoustic music, and I’ve not been blown away with the
>> reverb I’ve gotten from the Lexicon PCM70 (I’ve heard people
>>love them on drums & certain things) and am thinking to
>>sell/trade it towards something else. I’ve heard great things
>>about TC M3000 and Kurzweil KSP8. I’m wondering if the KSP8 has
>>enough advantages over the M3000 to justify the higher price tag,
>> when what I basically need are nice reverbs for acoustic music.
>>Or is there another killer unit out there that might accomplish
>>this (for, say under a grand)?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Dale
>
Re: KSP8 vs. TC M3000 vs......? [message #85762 is a reply to message #85639] Fri, 01 June 2007 11:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dale is currently offline  Dale   
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Is "convolution reverb" hardware or a plug? If the latter, my options may
be limited since I'm on a mac


"Gary Flanigan" <gary_flanigan@ce9.uscourts.gov> wrote:
>
>I love my M3000. But depending on how you plan to use it, a good convolution
>reverb might work as well for you and cost less.
Re: Rumour vs. TC M3000 vs......? [message #85763 is a reply to message #85583] Fri, 01 June 2007 11:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dale is currently offline  Dale   
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Is the Rumour's verbs the same as the KSP8's?


"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>I've heard the KSP-8 and it is very nice and natural. Brian T sold his
=
>M 6000 as I recall
>after substituting it's reverbs with the KSP-8. I think that was the =
>deal anyway.
>Kurly Rumor is serious bang/buck if reverb is the only thing you're =
>looking for.
>Tom
>
> "Chris Lang" <yo@yo.yo> wrote in message news:465cdf13$1@linux...
>
> Another vote for the M3000-
>
> If you like the Paris EDS plate reverb at all, you will
> LOVE the M3000- it is so unobtrusive but real.
>
> However, my friend Darren Rahn makes a living as a producer,
> among other things, and really loves the KSP8...
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> "George Axon" <georgeaxon@rogers.com> wrote:
> >
> >I also have the M3000 - it's very nice!
> >
> >"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
> >>The Kurzweil Rumor might be all you need.....if Kurzweil is your =
>choice.
> >>
> >>Deej
> >>
> >>"dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote in message=20
> >>news:465c8db2$1@linux...
> >>>
> >>> I do mostly acoustic music, and I've not been blown away with the
> >>> reverb I've gotten from the Lexicon PCM70 (I've heard people
> >>> love them on drums & certain things) and am thinking to
> >>> sell/trade it towards something else. I've heard great things
> >>> about TC M3000 and Kurzweil KSP8. I'm wondering if the KSP8 has
> >>> enough advantages over the M3000 to justify the higher price tag,
> >>> when what I basically need are nice reverbs for acoustic music.
> >>> Or is there another killer unit out there that might accomplish
> >>> this (for, say under a grand)?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Dale=20
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
>
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><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I've heard the KSP-8 and it is very =
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> =
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> vote for the M3000-<BR><BR>If you like the Paris EDS plate reverb at =
>all, you=20
> will<BR>LOVE the M3000- it is so unobtrusive but real.<BR><BR>However,
=
>my=20
> friend Darren Rahn makes a living as a producer,<BR>among other =
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> =
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> wrote:<BR>>>The Kurzweil Rumor might be all you need.....if =
>Kurzweil is=20
> your choice.<BR>>><BR>>>Deej<BR>>><BR>>>"dale" =
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> =
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>>=20
> wrote in message=20
> <BR>>>news:465c8db2$1@linux...<BR>>>><BR>>>> I =
>do=20
> mostly acoustic music, and I've not been blown away with =
>the<BR>>>>=20
> reverb I've gotten from the Lexicon PCM70 (I've heard =
>people<BR>>>>=20
> love them on drums & certain things) and am thinking =
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>things<BR>>>>=20
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>higher=20
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>for=20
> acoustic music.<BR>>>> Or is there another killer unit out =
>there that=20
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Re: KSP8 vs. TC M3000 vs......? [message #85791 is a reply to message #85762] Sat, 02 June 2007 11:00 Go to previous message
excelav is currently offline  excelav   
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There is Altiverb and others on the Mac side.

"dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>Is "convolution reverb" hardware or a plug? If the latter, my options may
>be limited since I'm on a mac
>
>
>"Gary Flanigan" <gary_flanigan@ce9.uscourts.gov> wrote:
>>
>>I love my M3000. But depending on how you plan to use it, a good convolution
>>reverb might work as well for you and cost less.
>
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