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OT: Waves plugins and CPU use [message #64671]

Sun, 19 February 2006 08:05

Don Nafe

Messages: 1206
Registered: July 2005

Senior Member

Hi all

Got an upgrade to Waves 3.5 and many of the plugs I used in 3.0 are now
stereo plugs in 3.5

Does the stereo plug use more HP than it's mono counterpart?

And if so is there a way to copy user settings from a stereo plug to a mono
version of the same plug

Don

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Re: Waves plugins and CPU use [message #64675 is a reply to message #64671]

Sun, 19 February 2006 11:20

Messages: 61
Registered: July 2005

Member

I have Waves 3.6 (free upgrade from 3.5) that has mono versions not avaiable
in 3.5. The theory is that it takes more cpu to process half of a stereo
plug-in when you only need a mono. As far as presets; they have separate
libraries which I assume makes them incompatible.

Just a side note: Since I did my last computer upgrade I get a DC pop at
the beginning of a track playing back with DX plug-ins. Some plug-ins are
worse than others with the Waves RComp being most offensive. This can be
eliminated by placing a mute at the beginning of the track, but this doesn't
prevent it when starting mid-song. I would sure like to know if anyone has
ever experienced this before.

RZ

"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:43f8989e@linux...
> Hi all
>
> Got an upgrade to Waves 3.5 and many of the plugs I used in 3.0 are now
> stereo plugs in 3.5
>
> Does the stereo plug use more HP than it's mono counterpart?
>
> And if so is there a way to copy user settings from a stereo plug to a
> mono version of the same plug
>
> Don
>

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Re: Waves plugins and CPU use [message #64677 is a reply to message #64675]

Sun, 19 February 2006 12:44

Don Nafe

Messages: 1206
Registered: July 2005

Senior Member

I occasionally get the odd pop here and there and have always used your
method of adding dead air just before the offending section...especially mid
track

Don

"RZ" <pearlmusic@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:43f8c66f$1@linux...
>I have Waves 3.6 (free upgrade from 3.5) that has mono versions not
>avaiable in 3.5. The theory is that it takes more cpu to process half of a
>stereo plug-in when you only need a mono. As far as presets; they have
>separate libraries which I assume makes them incompatible.
>
> Just a side note: Since I did my last computer upgrade I get a DC pop at
> the beginning of a track playing back with DX plug-ins. Some plug-ins are
> worse than others with the Waves RComp being most offensive. This can be
> eliminated by placing a mute at the beginning of the track, but this
> doesn't prevent it when starting mid-song. I would sure like to know if
> anyone has ever experienced this before.
>
> RZ
>
> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:43f8989e@linux...
>> Hi all
>>
>> Got an upgrade to Waves 3.5 and many of the plugs I used in 3.0 are now
>> stereo plugs in 3.5
>>
>> Does the stereo plug use more HP than it's mono counterpart?
>>
>> And if so is there a way to copy user settings from a stereo plug to a
>> mono version of the same plug
>>
>> Don
>>
>
>

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Re: Waves plugins and CPU use [message #64678 is a reply to message #64677]

Sun, 19 February 2006 13:06

Tom Bruhl

Messages: 1368
Registered: June 2007

Senior Member

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Don,
Render your Waves plugin tracks so you can still use
live plugins during mixdown but with only one
possible pop at the beginning in the track where the
object starts.
Tom
"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:43f8da00@linux...
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Don

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> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:43f8989e@linux...
>> Hi all
>>
>> Got an upgrade to Waves 3.5 and many of the plugs I used in 3.0 are =
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>>
>> Does the stereo plug use more HP than it's mono counterpart?
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>> And if so is there a way to copy user settings from a stereo plug =
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>> Don
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Re: Waves plugins and CPU use [message #64680 is a reply to message #64675]

Sun, 19 February 2006 13:10

Aaron Allen

Messages: 1988
Registered: May 2008

Senior Member

Yup. The way I handle it is I keep a blank audio file to put 'behind' the
partial audio you want to keep. Make sure to lock your crossfade handles on
the audio track you want to put on top of the blank before laying it back
over.

Lock audio handles in editor
Move audio to jail
Import one 'blank' audio (I think I built mind by recording silence on a
digital input... been a few years) and copy/paste it into the track you are
experiencing track popping on
Pull the audio back out of the jail and put it back on top of the
blank/silent track

The problem is that the audio stream does not exist if there is no track.
Once it starts to stream, you will hear a pop at the beginning. Typically I
preroll anyway (to get all the midi locked/sync'd) at the top so this isn't
a big deal to have it at the first of the song, and I just automate mutes.

May this find use for you,
AA

"RZ" <pearlmusic@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:43f8c66f$1@linux...
>I have Waves 3.6 (free upgrade from 3.5) that has mono versions not
>avaiable in 3.5. The theory is that it takes more cpu to process half of a
>stereo plug-in when you only need a mono. As far as presets; they have
>separate libraries which I assume makes them incompatible.
>
> Just a side note: Since I did my last computer upgrade I get a DC pop at
> the beginning of a track playing back with DX plug-ins. Some plug-ins are
> worse than others with the Waves RComp being most offensive. This can be
> eliminated by placing a mute at the beginning of the track, but this
> doesn't prevent it when starting mid-song. I would sure like to know if
> anyone has ever experienced this before.
>
> RZ
>
> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:43f8989e@linux...
>> Hi all
>>
>> Got an upgrade to Waves 3.5 and many of the plugs I used in 3.0 are now
>> stereo plugs in 3.5
>>
>> Does the stereo plug use more HP than it's mono counterpart?
>>
>> And if so is there a way to copy user settings from a stereo plug to a
>> mono version of the same plug
>>
>> Don
>>
>
>

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Re: Waves plugins and CPU use [message #64686 is a reply to message #64671]

Sun, 19 February 2006 14:45

Messages: 51
Registered: December 2005

Member

I had a case of the pops with 3.5 as well. Did the workarounds, then worked
back around to 3.0.

Kent

"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:43f8989e@linux...
> Hi all
>
> Got an upgrade to Waves 3.5 and many of the plugs I used in 3.0 are now
> stereo plugs in 3.5
>
> Does the stereo plug use more HP than it's mono counterpart?
>
> And if so is there a way to copy user settings from a stereo plug to a
mono
> version of the same plug
>
> Don
>
>

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Re: Waves plugins and CPU use [message #64865 is a reply to message #64686]

Thu, 23 February 2006 12:42

Suad

Messages: 62
Registered: October 2005

Member

I found that any Waves newer than 3.2 can crash PARIS
when switching submixes from virtual to card and sometimes
on project startup. More when there is many plugins...
BBE sonic maximizer DX is the same story...
VST works fine.
.....and on 98 or ME everything works fine... (even Waves 5.0)

I stuck on 3.2 DX on Win XP.

Cheers.

Suad

"Kent" <kent510745@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:43f8f64a@linux...
> I had a case of the pops with 3.5 as well. Did the workarounds, then
worked
> back around to 3.0.
>
> Kent
>
> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:43f8989e@linux...
> > Hi all
> >
> > Got an upgrade to Waves 3.5 and many of the plugs I used in 3.0 are now
> > stereo plugs in 3.5
> >
> > Does the stereo plug use more HP than it's mono counterpart?
> >
> > And if so is there a way to copy user settings from a stereo plug to a
> mono
> > version of the same plug
> >
> > Don
> >
> >
>
>

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