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| Re: HELP-IN SESSION EMERGENCY [message #58166 is a reply to message #58165] |
Wed, 14 September 2005 08:46   |
Dimitrios
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info@studiomanitou.com> wrote:
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>>Pete, do you hear the first beep (post) power-on-self-test when booting?
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>>"Pete Ruthenburg" <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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>>> SO I turn on my PC and everything comes on,fans,lights,but
>>>nothing comes on the monitor.It doesn't sound like the computer
>>>is going through its normal boot sequence either.I tried the
>>>reset button,nothing happens.
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>>>I'm not too PC savvy as this is my first PC.
>>>
>>>Any help PLEASE?!
>>>
>>>Pete
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>Pete,
If everything is black and no beep at power up, there can be so much that's
doing the trouble. First of all I think you shall take of the powercable
back on the computer and let it rest some minutes without any passive power
at all. Controll all the cables to see that they're OK inside and outside
and try starting once again. If nothing's yet happening and it's all black
yet, there can be many different faults. First of all, control the
powersupply that it's OK. If so, it can be a bad seated or collapsed graphic
card or a collapsed chipset on the motherboard. It's not good to say at all,
this is just some ideas I have that I know can make these kind of problems.
Erling
"Pete Ruthenburg" <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> skrev i en meddelelse
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> Rob,no I'm not getting any beeps after hitting the start button;
> just lights and fans thats it.
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> Pete
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| Re: HELP-IN SESSION EMERGENCY [message #58174 is a reply to message #58171] |
Wed, 14 September 2005 09:46 |
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------=_NextPart_000_006A_01C5B923.EB8B5C60--Hi Pete-
IMO, this is absolutely a power supply issue. I went through
two of them, with the exact symptoms you have described.
Get a 550W supply, and you should be fine.
Chris
"Pete Ruthenburg" <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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> SO I turn on my PC and everything comes on,fans,lights,but
>nothing comes on the monitor.It doesn't sound like the computer
>is going through its normal boot sequence either.I tried the
>reset button,nothing happens.
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> I'm not too PC savvy as this is my first PC.
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>Any help PLEASE?!
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>PeteThree things I would try:
1- Strip it down to a bare box, vid card, HD, Ram...etc
2- Try swapping video card
3- Try another pwr supply
If you still cant get a beep out of it at this point and this box was
running perfectly before, I think you may need to go shopping for a new
MoBrd my friend.
Good luck
Rob_A
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| Re: HELP-IN SESSION EMERGENCY [message #58180 is a reply to message #58172] |
Wed, 14 September 2005 12:02 |
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------=_NextPart_000_0402_01C5B95A.4949DDA0--I have found the Avalon stuff to be seriously unimpressive.
One man's opinion, FWIW!
Jimmy
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:43283da4@linux...
> Hi,
> I advise if you want forward for the Avalon M5.
> This is the most forwarding preamp to my eras, aggresive and in front not
> brilliant but in your face with great great bottom.
> I have Great River (not the NV) with Lundahl transformers.
> I only use Great river for electric instruments especially bass and el
> guitars.
> I never use it for vocals, doesn't compliment vocals , thats my oppinion
of
> course.
> The best allarouind preamp is the Amek 9098 with newer (lower distortion)
> opa's, really really fanatstic.
> But if you are looking for that "special" right in your face sound" with
> great bottom and not extra harmonics (like 9098) but with great bottom
then
> Avalon is what I would go for.
> Anyway , rent one and try before you buy.
> Don't buy before trying anything based on what we say.
> Regards,
> Dimitrios
>
> "cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote in message
news:43282c17$1@linux...
> >
> >
> >
> > Yeah API's on the list for next year! I just need one pre right now to
> augment
> > the AM-16's. I am looking for something more "forward" with some sheen
btu
> > can also get some funk. Sound like the GR may do that.
> >
> >
> >
> > "PN" <pnl@nospam.com> wrote:
> > >I have the 2NV and I've been really pleased with it.
> > >You can get a nearly transparent sound out of it or dial in one with
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| Re: HELP-IN SESSION EMERGENCY [message #58181 is a reply to message #58162] |
Wed, 14 September 2005 13:46 |
emarenot
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> > >attitude.
> > >Having an output control is really helpful and the 'iron' button is
quite
> >
> > >useful.
> > >For an overall pre, you can not go wrong with the GR NV
> > >
> > >My main preamps are GR and API.
> > >I find for some E. Gits, Kick, Snare, Toms, Bass and about 75% of the
> vocals
> >
> > >I do (mostly rock, pop) I mostly use the APIs.
> > >
> > >And OMG, for Bass, an API into a DBX 160vu is the dream team come true.
> > >
> > >"cujo" <Report message to a moderator
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| Re: HELP-IN SESSION EMERGENCY [message #58183 is a reply to message #58182] |
Wed, 14 September 2005 15:29 |
Tom Bruhl
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o paris digital coax
in.http://www.digitech.com/products/gnx4.htm
OK, so maybe the recorder in it doesn't sound as good as Paris. Sure, it's
only 16 bit, and only 8 tracks...
....but it really is impressively easy to use. Convenient. Obviously no good
for any actual release stuff, but for mucking around, excellent, and for
looping... ;o)
Well looping is just the best. It's not actually the best looper in the world
as such. Some features of dedicated loopers, like reverse for example, are
absent. On the other hand you do get 8 tracks to loop on which isn't bad,
and what I especially like is that it has track buttons like a proper recorder,
so you can create 4 loops which play together, and then mute any one, or
two, or whatever, and then bring those loops back later on if you like. This
allows a lot of flexability in terms of building a peice.
I especially like the way the thing works. With some peices of gear you just
never get along with them and feel like it's a fight to get the job done,
but others are intuative and you find yourself agreeing with all the design
decisions, and when you disagree, half an hour later you end up going "Ah,
THAT's why they've done it that way!!". The GNX4 is one of the latter for
me. How it's laid out makes sense to me. There's a lot to this box, and I
reckon I've got a hold on about 3/4 of it or more already. That's not bad
for two nights mucking about.
As far as the sounds go, I haven't plugged it in to Paris or anything yet
to have a good listen, but so far the sounds have mostly impressed me. I've
heard it said that the actual amp models on this box aren't entirely accurate,
but that it's strength lies in the "WARP" feature, which allows you to make
combinations of two seperate amp/cabinet setups. From what I've heard so
far this does sound like a powerful tool. It does seem to be a true warp
function, and some very effective results can be had by criss crossing between
different cabinet models. I've heard there is a set of some 1000 odd presets
you can now buy which utilise the warp feature, which I'm considering purchasing.
Even the virtual pickup settings seem to work quite well... humbucker to
single coil and visa versa. I was expecting some cheap EQ effect, but whatever
they've done sounds like it's much more effective.
I can't wait to hook it up to a keyboard and get the vocoder working. ;o)
Ah, the joy of a new toy...
Cheers,
Kim.anyone know the latency on the lookahead settings... 0.01 - 0.050.
thanks!i have used that board but i never hooked up the onboard sound.
sorry.
-j
"Brandon" <brandon_goodwin@REMOVETHISsbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:4328c497@linux...
> I can't get the digital out to work from the mb to paris digital coax
> in.
>
>No beeps almost always means a dead
cpu.
I hope this helps.
Mike
"Pete Ruthenburg" <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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>Rob,no I'm not getting any beeps after hitting the start button;
>just lights and fans thats it.
>
>Pete
>
>"Rob Arsenault" <info@studiomanitou.com> wrote:
>>Pete, do you hear the first beep (post) power-on-self-test when booting?
>>
>>
>>"Pete Ruthenburg" <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>news:432841d6$1@linux...
>>>
>>> SO I turn on my PC and everything comes on,fans,lights,but
>>> nothing comes on the monitor.It doesn't sound like the computer
>>> is going through its normal boot sequence either.I tried the
>>> reset button,nothing happens.
>>>
>>> I'm not too PC savvy as this is my first PC.
>>>
>>> Any help PLEASE?!
>>>
>>> Pete
>>
>>
>I should qualify the "almost". It could also be a dead PCI card. Network
cards are notorious for dying and causing this kind of problem. Pull everything
out except the video card and see if it starts. If not, it's a bad cpu.
Good luck!
Mike
"Mike Audet" <mike@MikeF-SPAMAudet.com> wrote:
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>No beeps almost always means a dead
>cpu.
>
>I hope this helps.
>
>Mike
>
>"Pete Ruthenburg" <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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>>Rob,no I'm not getting any beeps after hitting the start button;
>>just lights and fans thats it.
>>
>>Pete
>>
>>"Rob Arsenault" <info@studiomanitou.com> wrote:
>>>Pete, do you hear the first beep (post) power-on-self-test when booting?
>>>
>>>
>>>"Pete Ruthenburg" <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>>news:432841d6$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> SO
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| Re: HELP-IN SESSION EMERGENCY [message #58189 is a reply to message #58171] |
Wed, 14 September 2005 19:45 |
Mike Audet
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e especially if they are more than two cards...
>>> >Regards,
>>> >Dimitrios
>>> >"Pete Ruthenburg" <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>> >news:432841d6$1@linux...
>>> >>
>>> >> SO I turn on my PC and everything comes on,fans,lights,but
>>> >> nothing comes on the monitor.It doesn't sound like the computer
>>> >> is going through its normal boot sequence either.I tried the
>>> >> reset button,nothing happens.
>>> >>
>>> >> I'm not too PC savvy as this is my first PC.
>>> >>
>>> >> Any help PLEASE?!
>>> >>
>>> >> Pete
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>
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>
>Sounds cool, Kim.
My Digitech RP2000, a previous version of their amp modeler/FX pedal, is
a real workhorse. It sounds good, is built solidly and has been very
dependable for gigging with acoustic guitar, electric guitar and violin.
Cheers,
-Jamie K
http://
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| Re: HELP-IN SESSION EMERGENCY [message #58190 is a reply to message #58189] |
Wed, 14 September 2005 19:47 |
Mike Audet
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www.JamieKrutz.com
Kim wrote:
> http://www.digitech.com/products/gnx4.htm
>
> OK, so maybe the recorder in it doesn't sound as good as Paris. Sure, it's
> only 16 bit, and only 8 tracks...
>
> ...but it really is impressively easy to use. Convenient. Obviously no good
> for any actual release stuff, but for mucking around, excellent, and for
> looping... ;o)
>
> Well looping is just the best. It's not actually the best looper in the world
> as such. Some features of dedicated loopers, like reverse for example, are
> absent. On the other hand you do get 8 tracks to loop on which isn't bad,
> and what I especially like is that it has track buttons like a proper recorder,
> so you can create 4 loops which play together, and then mute any one, or
> two, or whatever, and then bring those loops back later on if you like. This
> allows a lot of flexability in terms of building a peice.
>
> I especially like the way the thing works. With some peices of gear you just
> never get along with them and feel like it's a fight to get the job done,
> but others are intuative and you find yourself agreeing with all the design
> decisions, and when you disagree, half an hour later you end up going "Ah,
> THAT's why they've done it that way!!". The GNX4 is one of the latter for
> me. How it's laid out makes sense to me. There's a lot to this box, and I
> reckon I've got a hold on about 3/4 of it or more already. That's not bad
> for two nights mucking about.
>
> As far as the sounds go, I haven't plugged it in to Paris or anything yet
> to have a good listen, but so far the sounds have mostly impressed me. I've
> heard it said that the actual amp models on this box aren't entirely accurate,
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| Re: HELP-IN SESSION EMERGENCY [message #58196 is a reply to message #58194] |
Wed, 14 September 2005 23:00 |
JeffH
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eate 4 loops which play together, and then mute any one,
or
>> two, or whatever, and then bring those loops back later on if you like.
This
>> allows a lot of flexability in terms of building a peice.
>>
>> I especially like the way the thing works. With some peices of gear you
just
>> never get along with them and feel like it's a fight to get the job done,
>> but others are intuative and you find yourself agreeing with all the design
>> decisions, and when you disagree, half an hour later you end up going
"Ah,
>> THAT's why they've done it that way!!". The GNX4 is one of the latter
for
>> me. How it's laid out makes sense to me. There's a lot to this box, and
I
>> reckon I've got a hold on about 3/4 of it or more already. That's not
bad
>> for two nights mucking about.
>>
>> As far as the sounds go, I haven't plugged it in to Paris or anything
yet
>> to have a good listen, but so far the sounds have mostly impressed me.
I've
>> heard it said that the actual amp models on this box aren't entirely accurate,
>> but that it's strength lies in the "WARP" feature, which allows you to
make
>> combinations of two seperate amp/cabinet setups. From what I've heard
so
>> far this does sound like a powerful tool. It does seem to be a true warp
>> function, and some very effective results can be had by criss crossing
between
>> different cabinet models. I've heard there is a set of some 1000 odd presets
>> you can now buy which utilise the warp feature, which I'm considering
purchasing.
>>
>> Even the virtual pickup settings seem to work quite well... humbucker
to
>> single coil and visa versa. I was expecting some cheap EQ effect, but
whatever
>> they've done sounds like it's much more effective.
>>
>> I can't wait to hook it up to a keyboard and get the vocoder working.
;o)
>>
>> Ah, the joy of a new toy...
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kim.Well...............hmmmmm.............Rudy is from Switzerland. Is Pooh
Corner in Switzerland? You're thinking of Pooty Bear........I think.......
;o)
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:4328f088$1@linux...
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> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
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> >My friend, Rudy Bear, came by here today.
>
> Rudy Bear? Wasn't he a character in an A.A. Milne book?
>
> :)i believe it's a 1:1 relationship.
On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 20:22:22 -0500, "Jeremy Luzier"
<j.luzier@comcast.net> wrote:
>anyone know the latency on the lookahead settings... 0.01 - 0.050.
>
>thanks!
>
>Yea, my sequencer box does this sometimes and this is exactly what I do and
it boots.
"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> on mine it just hangs until i re hit the power switch to turn it off
> the hit it again and it boots.
>
> On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 10:37:33 -0600, "DJ"
> <animix_s
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| Re: HELP-IN SESSION EMERGENCY [message #58197 is a reply to message #58196] |
Wed, 14 September 2005 23:01 |
JeffH
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pam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
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>>Normally what happens with mine is that I boot the computer and I don't
>>hear
>>a beep. I shut it down, then I reboot and after about 3 seconds I hit the
>>reset button, I hear a beep, the video card is recognized and then
>>everything is fine.
>>
>>I don't know if it is the PSU or not, but if you're running 4 x EDS cards
>>and a full load of HD's, you're probably skating pretty close to the edge.
>>
>>Deej
>>
>>"Pete Ruthenburg" <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>news:43284d67$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Thanks Deej.Tried the reset button,still the same;tried to
>>> reseat the video card,same thing.
>>>
>>> It doesn't seem to be going through its boot cycle at all.I don't
>>> hear the hard drive start up or the beeps I usually hear.The
>>> lights and fans all come on,but thats all.SOund like power supply
>>> to you?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Pete
>>>
>>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>> >My office computer sometimes does this. I don't know why. what cures it
>>> is
>>> >to turn on the computer with the startup button and then immeditely hit
>>> the
>>> >reset button while it is in it's boot cycle.
>>> >
>>> >If this doesn't work, reseat the video card. Double check the VGA cable
>>> >connection between the card and the monitor (both ends). Reboot.
>>> >
>>> >Good luck,
>>> >
>>> >Deej
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >"Pete Ruthenburg" <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>> >news:432841d6$1@linux...
>>> >>
>>> >> SO I turn on my PC and everything comes on,fans,lights,but
>>> >> nothing comes on the monitor.It doesn't sound like the computer
>>> >> is going through its normal boot sequence either.I tried the
>>> >> reset button,nothing happens.
>>> >>
>>> >> I'm not too PC savvy as this is my first PC.
>>> >>
>>> >> Any help PLEASE?!
>>> >>
>>> >> Pete
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>
>jimmy, I have heard that too. Of course all of this shit is just opinions.
And Dimitrios is right, I should see if mercinary will let me take a few
units out. Even if I pay a rental fee. I know what I am lookinng for is not
goinng to be the last pre I buy. I just need sort of an all around up grade
for main overdubs. This seems like a good chois.
I was thinking the Funkenworks looked cool too at 975.00
"uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>I have found the Avalon stuff to be seriously unimpressive.
>
>One man's opinion, FWIW!
>
>Jimmy
>
>
>
>"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:43283da4@linux...
>> Hi,
>> I advise if you want forward for the Avalon M5.
>> This is the most forwarding preamp to my eras, aggresive and in front
not
>> brilliant but in your face with great great bottom.
>> I have Great River (not the NV) with Lundahl transformers.
>> I only use Great river for electric instruments especially bass and el
>> guitars.
>> I never us
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| Re: HELP-IN SESSION EMERGENCY [message #58201 is a reply to message #58180] |
Thu, 15 September 2005 04:32 |
Rob Arsenault
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>> Hey Pete,
>> I'm wondering if it might help to try a new mobo battery. I had a
>> similar,
>> can't recall if the exact, problem you're having. A new battery cleared
>> it up.
>> MR
>>
>> "Pete Ruthenburg" <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> SO I turn on my PC and everything comes on,fans,lights,but
>>>nothing comes on the monitor.It doesn't sound like the computer
>>>is going through its normal boot sequence either.I tried the
>>>reset button,nothing happens.
>>>
>>> I'm not too PC savvy as this is my first PC.
>>>
>>>Any help PLEASE?!
>>>
>>>Pete
>>
>
>Is there something to take care of in the bios? Often, things like these are
in off-mode as standard in the bios.
Erling
"Brandon" <brandon_goodwin@REMOVETHISsbcglobal.net> skrev i en meddelelse
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> I can't get the digital out to work from the mb to paris digital coax
> in.
>Hey DJ -
Where are you at? I have a Jazz-Fusion group
(www.postmodernblues.com) that might be able
to do something - I would have to talk to the
rest of the group and check availablility. Let
me know more specific details -
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>My friend, Rudy Bear, came by here today. Rudy owns Trimble Hot Springs
>across the street from my house. He usually has weekend jazz concerts at
the
>Springs on the weekends and there is a nice stage/covered pavillion area
>there.
>
>He was one of the big movers and shakers of the Telluride Jazz Festival
for
>many years He was talking to Winton and Ellis Marsalis earlier today and
>they are setting up a foundation to help the flood victims. He asked me
if I
>would give him a hand putting this together.
>
>Of course, since I'm a redneck ***hole, I told him to **** off...........
>
>;oP
>'
>'
>'
>'
>'
>'
>'.............but seriously folks......... I've got an experienced and very
>good sound man with a nice A & H board who has tentavily committed to this.
>and it looks like this will be coming
>together either on the afternoon of the 25th (a Sunday) or the next
>weekend..
>
>All gate proceeds will be donated to this Marsalis foundation. If any of
you
>jazz musicians are interested and would be able to come and donate your
>time, (or if any Parisites would just like to attend), I'll put you up here
>and feed you and we can have some fun.
>
>Send me an e-mail at animix@animas.net or give me a call at 970-375-7081.
>
>
>I trust Mercenary's opinions implicitly. They deal in only the best stuff,
period, and they are as staight-up and trust-worthy as any company I have
ever dealt with. I am not quite so keen on any other music gear-pimps, btw.
I'm sure they will let you audition a few different units if you have the
roo
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| Re: HELP-IN SESSION EMERGENCY [message #58222 is a reply to message #58203] |
Thu, 15 September 2005 10:33 |
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;>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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>>> All<BR><BR>I've got a song that the band wants to edit in a major way
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>>> Cutting out <BR>and Adding sections. The problem is that the song has
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>Had an issue with an IF/2 that caused the phasing to be so weird it
literally caused our ears to hurt. At first we though it was the
outboard equipment so we did a loopback and the problem persisted.
Replaced it with another IF/2 and the problem went away. The old IF/2
is in a Goodwill somewhere
:o)
JH
DJ wrote:
> It's ugly. Started having *lots* of clocking problems. Traced it to an IF-2
> that had started going south, it seems. If you start having unexplained
> wierdness and have IF-2's hooked up to you MEC, try unplugging them and see
> if that fixes the problem.
>
> Deej
>
>Both of mine went south pretty much simultaneously which makes me
suspicious, but the proof is in the fact that removing them stabilized the
system completely. I had one sitting on top of the other. They do generate
some (but not a whole lot of) heat. Perhaps that was the reason they failed
about the same time.
Go figure.
Deej
"Jeff hoover" <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote in message news:4329dcc5@linux...<
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