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| Bass premp/DI [message #77707] |
Sun, 31 December 2006 18:39  |
TCB
Messages: 1261
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Remember that scene in the first Star Wars where Han Yo-Yo is getting the
Millennium Falcon ready to take Whiny Luke and Slinky Leia of to see, well,
something important I forget now. Or maybe Slinky Leia wasn't there yet,
it was just the Whiny Luke and Whiny C3P0 and Perky Little R2 at that point.
Anyway, in a very slapstick moment that was sadly missing from the later
Star Wars movies, Harrison Ford as Yo-Yo is all talking up his ship up like
it's the most BALLING thing ever and it did the something or another run
while making parsec tea and all. So they're finally ready to go and fight
the Greatest Battle in History of the Galaxy but first they have to hire
Yo-Yo to taxi them there 'cause they don't have any money and they live on
this shitstorm little backwater planet that's like the Kearney, Nebraska
of the galaxy and the best they can find to get them to the Greatest Battle
in the History of the Galaxy is this shady drug/gun/whatever runner they
met in a bar. So Yo-Yo jumps in the pilot seat and flips a bunch of switches
and fires up his shitty jalopy of a Millennium Falcon and it makes all of
these cool noises and beeps and the engines start to whine and the lights
are all flashing and then it goes BBBBBBRRRRRRRRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMMMMMPPP
and all the lights turn off? Well, that's kind of how I feel getting my studio
up and running again, expect of course that I don't have any androids in
my house or a Wookie either, which is probably good because I have a cat
and if he could beat me at chess like a Wookie could well, screw me I'd have
to give him tuna fish EVERY DAY.
All of which is to say that I was getting out my bass to start working on
a couple tracks on my fancy new Millennium Falcon DAW and . . . my SansAMP
Bass DI has gone to the great DI hereafter where I'm sure at this moment
it's covorting with it's bass DI family in eternal bottom crunching bliss.
Now then, I'm a dub/reggae/electronica guy so I'm EXTREMELY picky about bass
sounds, and most of the time I like to actually play them. I can program
a bass line but bass needs to be one of the really organic sounds in the
kind of music I make which can sound very non-organic at times. Here's what
I liked about the SansAMP.
- it was happy to work with any kind of bass. It would boost the lowest output
Danelectro to mixer burning levels, but happily deal with a fancy new active
bass as well.
- it didn't have much color on its own, but it also got everything out of
the bass. That is, it didn't sound 'cool' like an Ampeg mic'ed up, but it
would dutifully pass all of the frequencies coming out of the bass, at very
least, and let me work with them later in the mixer with EQ and compression
and so on.
- but even so the EQ could be useful in many situations.
- it had multiple outputs, XLRs, quarter inch, pass through, etc.
Now then, I'm more than happy to just get another SansAMP but do you PARIS
loving analog mixing golden ears types have suggestions for a better box
to be used to plug a bass directly into a mixer or recording device?
Thanks,
TCB
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| Re: Bass premp/DI [message #77708 is a reply to message #77707] |
Sun, 31 December 2006 18:49  |
John Macy
Messages: 242
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Still use my Avalon U5 all the time for bass. My favorite
bass player in Nashville, Michael Rhodes, uses a U5 and a
Tube Teck CL1 compressor for his main tracking rack...
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
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>Remember that scene in the first Star Wars where Han Yo-Yo is getting the
>Millennium Falcon ready to take Whiny Luke and Slinky Leia of to see, well,
>something important I forget now. Or maybe Slinky Leia wasn't there yet,
>it was just the Whiny Luke and Whiny C3P0 and Perky Little R2 at that point.
>Anyway, in a very slapstick moment that was sadly missing from the later
>Star Wars movies, Harrison Ford as Yo-Yo is all talking up his ship up like
>it's the most BALLING thing ever and it did the something or another run
>while making parsec tea and all. So they're finally ready to go and fight
>the Greatest Battle in History of the Galaxy but first they have to hire
>Yo-Yo to taxi them there 'cause they don't have any money and they live
on
>this shitstorm little backwater planet that's like the Kearney, Nebraska
>of the galaxy and the best they can find to get them to the Greatest Battle
>in the History of the Galaxy is this shady drug/gun/whatever runner they
>met in a bar. So Yo-Yo jumps in the pilot seat and flips a bunch of switches
>and fires up his shitty jalopy of a Millennium Falcon and it makes all of
>these cool noises and beeps and the engines start to whine and the lights
>are all flashing and then it goes BBBBBBRRRRRRRRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMMMMMPPP
>and all the lights turn off? Well, that's kind of how I feel getting my
studio
>up and running again, expect of course that I don't have any androids in
>my house or a Wookie either, which is probably good because I have a cat
>and if he could beat me at chess like a Wookie could well, screw me I'd
have
>to give him tuna fish EVERY DAY.
>
>All of which is to say that I was getting out my bass to start working on
>a couple tracks on my fancy new Millennium Falcon DAW and . . . my SansAMP
>Bass DI has gone to the great DI hereafter where I'm sure at this moment
>it's covorting with it's bass DI family in eternal bottom crunching bliss.
>Now then, I'm a dub/reggae/electronica guy so I'm EXTREMELY picky about
bass
>sounds, and most of the time I like to actually play them. I can program
>a bass line but bass needs to be one of the really organic sounds in the
>kind of music I make which can sound very non-organic at times. Here's what
>I liked about the SansAMP.
>
>- it was happy to work with any kind of bass. It would boost the lowest
output
>Danelectro to mixer burning levels, but happily deal with a fancy new active
>bass as well.
>
>- it didn't have much color on its own, but it also got everything out of
>the bass. That is, it didn't sound 'cool' like an Ampeg mic'ed up, but it
>would dutifully pass all of the frequencies coming out of the bass, at very
>least, and let me work with them later in the mixer with EQ and compression
>and so on.
>
>- but even so the EQ could be useful in many situations.
>
>- it had multiple outputs, XLRs, quarter inch, pass through, etc.
>
>Now then, I'm more than happy to just get another SansAMP but do you PARIS
>loving analog mixing golden ears types have suggestions for a better box
>to be used to plug a bass directly into a mixer or recording device?
>
>Thanks,
>
>TCB
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| Re: Bass premp/DI [message #77709 is a reply to message #77707] |
Sun, 31 December 2006 18:49 |
Nil
Messages: 245
Registered: March 2007
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"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
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>Remember that scene in the first Star Wars where Han Yo-Yo is getting the
>Millennium Falcon ready to take Whiny Luke and Slinky Leia of to see, well,
>something important I forget now. Or maybe Slinky Leia wasn't there yet,
>it was just the Whiny Luke and Whiny C3P0 and Perky Little R2 at that point.
>Anyway, in a very slapstick moment that was sadly missing from the later
>Star Wars movies, Harrison Ford as Yo-Yo is all talking up his ship up like
>it's the most BALLING thing ever and it did the something or another run
>while making parsec tea and all. So they're finally ready to go and fight
>the Greatest Battle in History of the Galaxy but first they have to hire
>Yo-Yo to taxi them there 'cause they don't have any money and they live
on
>this shitstorm little backwater planet that's like the Kearney, Nebraska
>of the galaxy and the best they can find to get them to the Greatest Battle
>in the History of the Galaxy is this shady drug/gun/whatever runner they
>met in a bar. So Yo-Yo jumps in the pilot seat and flips a bunch of switches
>and fires up his shitty jalopy of a Millennium Falcon and it makes all of
>these cool noises and beeps and the engines start to whine and the lights
>are all flashing and then it goes BBBBBBRRRRRRRRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMMMMMPPP
>and all the lights turn off? Well, that's kind of how I feel getting my
studio
>up and running again, expect of course that I don't have any androids in
>my house or a Wookie either, which is probably good because I have a cat
>and if he could beat me at chess like a Wookie could well, screw me I'd
have
>to give him tuna fish EVERY DAY.
>
>All of which is to say that I was getting out my bass to start working on
>a couple tracks on my fancy new Millennium Falcon DAW and . . . my SansAMP
>Bass DI has gone to the great DI hereafter where I'm sure at this moment
>it's covorting with it's bass DI family in eternal bottom crunching bliss.
>Now then, I'm a dub/reggae/electronica guy so I'm EXTREMELY picky about
bass
>sounds, and most of the time I like to actually play them. I can program
>a bass line but bass needs to be one of the really organic sounds in the
>kind of music I make which can sound very non-organic at times. Here's what
>I liked about the SansAMP.
>
>- it was happy to work with any kind of bass. It would boost the lowest
output
>Danelectro to mixer burning levels, but happily deal with a fancy new active
>bass as well.
>
>- it didn't have much color on its own, but it also got everything out of
>the bass. That is, it didn't sound 'cool' like an Ampeg mic'ed up, but it
>would dutifully pass all of the frequencies coming out of the bass, at very
>least, and let me work with them later in the mixer with EQ and compression
>and so on.
>
>- but even so the EQ could be useful in many situations.
>
>- it had multiple outputs, XLRs, quarter inch, pass through, etc.
>
>Now then, I'm more than happy to just get another SansAMP but do you PARIS
>loving analog mixing golden ears types have suggestions for a better box
>to be used to plug a bass directly into a mixer or recording device?
>
>Thanks,
>
>TCB
Did you try checking the battery?
:)
I think the Sansamp's a good one for the money, and I've got
one myself; I think it'd be hard to replace with anything
better for that price range, but I'm sorta interested in trying
one of those Hartke BassAttack ones, too. Only Seventy bucks,
and it makes me wonder if I can get that aluminum cone sound
out of a DI.
Neil
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| Re: Bass premp/DI [message #77710 is a reply to message #77709] |
Sun, 31 December 2006 19:04 |
TCB
Messages: 1261
Registered: July 2007
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"Neil" <IUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
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>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
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>>Remember that scene in the first Star Wars where Han Yo-Yo is getting the
>>Millennium Falcon ready to take Whiny Luke and Slinky Leia of to see, well,
>>something important I forget now. Or maybe Slinky Leia wasn't there yet,
>>it was just the Whiny Luke and Whiny C3P0 and Perky Little R2 at that point.
>>Anyway, in a very slapstick moment that was sadly missing from the later
>>Star Wars movies, Harrison Ford as Yo-Yo is all talking up his ship up
like
>>it's the most BALLING thing ever and it did the something or another run
>>while making parsec tea and all. So they're finally ready to go and fight
>>the Greatest Battle in History of the Galaxy but first they have to hire
>>Yo-Yo to taxi them there 'cause they don't have any money and they live
>on
>>this shitstorm little backwater planet that's like the Kearney, Nebraska
>>of the galaxy and the best they can find to get them to the Greatest Battle
>>in the History of the Galaxy is this shady drug/gun/whatever runner they
>>met in a bar. So Yo-Yo jumps in the pilot seat and flips a bunch of switches
>>and fires up his shitty jalopy of a Millennium Falcon and it makes all
of
>>these cool noises and beeps and the engines start to whine and the lights
>>are all flashing and then it goes BBBBBBRRRRRRRRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMMMMMPPP
>>and all the lights turn off? Well, that's kind of how I feel getting my
>studio
>>up and running again, expect of course that I don't have any androids in
>>my house or a Wookie either, which is probably good because I have a cat
>>and if he could beat me at chess like a Wookie could well, screw me I'd
>have
>>to give him tuna fish EVERY DAY.
>>
>>All of which is to say that I was getting out my bass to start working
on
>>a couple tracks on my fancy new Millennium Falcon DAW and . . . my SansAMP
>>Bass DI has gone to the great DI hereafter where I'm sure at this moment
>>it's covorting with it's bass DI family in eternal bottom crunching bliss.
>>Now then, I'm a dub/reggae/electronica guy so I'm EXTREMELY picky about
>bass
>>sounds, and most of the time I like to actually play them. I can program
>>a bass line but bass needs to be one of the really organic sounds in the
>>kind of music I make which can sound very non-organic at times. Here's
what
>>I liked about the SansAMP.
>>
>>- it was happy to work with any kind of bass. It would boost the lowest
>output
>>Danelectro to mixer burning levels, but happily deal with a fancy new active
>>bass as well.
>>
>>- it didn't have much color on its own, but it also got everything out
of
>>the bass. That is, it didn't sound 'cool' like an Ampeg mic'ed up, but
it
>>would dutifully pass all of the frequencies coming out of the bass, at
very
>>least, and let me work with them later in the mixer with EQ and compression
>>and so on.
>>
>>- but even so the EQ could be useful in many situations.
>>
>>- it had multiple outputs, XLRs, quarter inch, pass through, etc.
>>
>>Now then, I'm more than happy to just get another SansAMP but do you PARIS
>>loving analog mixing golden ears types have suggestions for a better box
>>to be used to plug a bass directly into a mixer or recording device?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>TCB
>
>Did you try checking the battery?
>
>:)
>
>I think the Sansamp's a good one for the money, and I've got
>one myself; I think it'd be hard to replace with anything
>better for that price range, but I'm sorta interested in trying
>one of those Hartke BassAttack ones, too. Only Seventy bucks,
>and it makes me wonder if I can get that aluminum cone sound
>out of a DI.
>
>Neil
Fresh battery, cleaned everything inside with contact cleaner checked to
make sure the batter posts were live.
But thanks for asking ;-)
TCB
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| Re: Bass premp/DI [message #77711 is a reply to message #77707] |
Sun, 31 December 2006 18:19 |
Aaron Allen
Messages: 1988
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This might fit the bill for you, if you're into passing through what's
there. Make sure you also use a good quality cable, no HOSA crap.
Personally, I'm using the Monster Bass, YMMV.
Try ebay to see if you can locate one of these, no idea what they're going
for.
If you're more into even order harmonics, you might try getting a tube pre
with an instrument in.
Or another SANS since you know what you had and liked it.
AA
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:4598663c$1@linux...
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> Remember that scene in the first Star Wars where Han Yo-Yo is getting the
> Millennium Falcon ready to take Whiny Luke and Slinky Leia of to see,
> well,
> something important I forget now. Or maybe Slinky Leia wasn't there yet,
> it was just the Whiny Luke and Whiny C3P0 and Perky Little R2 at that
> point.
> Anyway, in a very slapstick moment that was sadly missing from the later
> Star Wars movies, Harrison Ford as Yo-Yo is all talking up his ship up
> like
> it's the most BALLING thing ever and it did the something or another run
> while making parsec tea and all. So they're finally ready to go and fight
> the Greatest Battle in History of the Galaxy but first they have to hire
> Yo-Yo to taxi them there 'cause they don't have any money and they live on
> this shitstorm little backwater planet that's like the Kearney, Nebraska
> of the galaxy and the best they can find to get them to the Greatest
> Battle
> in the History of the Galaxy is this shady drug/gun/whatever runner they
> met in a bar. So Yo-Yo jumps in the pilot seat and flips a bunch of
> switches
> and fires up his shitty jalopy of a Millennium Falcon and it makes all of
> these cool noises and beeps and the engines start to whine and the lights
> are all flashing and then it goes
> BBBBBBRRRRRRRRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMMMMMPPP
> and all the lights turn off? Well, that's kind of how I feel getting my
> studio
> up and running again, expect of course that I don't have any androids in
> my house or a Wookie either, which is probably good because I have a cat
> and if he could beat me at chess like a Wookie could well, screw me I'd
> have
> to give him tuna fish EVERY DAY.
>
> All of which is to say that I was getting out my bass to start working on
> a couple tracks on my fancy new Millennium Falcon DAW and . . . my SansAMP
> Bass DI has gone to the great DI hereafter where I'm sure at this moment
> it's covorting with it's bass DI family in eternal bottom crunching bliss.
> Now then, I'm a dub/reggae/electronica guy so I'm EXTREMELY picky about
> bass
> sounds, and most of the time I like to actually play them. I can program
> a bass line but bass needs to be one of the really organic sounds in the
> kind of music I make which can sound very non-organic at times. Here's
> what
> I liked about the SansAMP.
>
> - it was happy to work with any kind of bass. It would boost the lowest
> output
> Danelectro to mixer burning levels, but happily deal with a fancy new
> active
> bass as well.
>
> - it didn't have much color on its own, but it also got everything out of
> the bass. That is, it didn't sound 'cool' like an Ampeg mic'ed up, but it
> would dutifully pass all of the frequencies coming out of the bass, at
> very
> least, and let me work with them later in the mixer with EQ and
> compression
> and so on.
>
> - but even so the EQ could be useful in many situations.
>
> - it had multiple outputs, XLRs, quarter inch, pass through, etc.
>
> Now then, I'm more than happy to just get another SansAMP but do you PARIS
> loving analog mixing golden ears types have suggestions for a better box
> to be used to plug a bass directly into a mixer or recording device?
>
> Thanks,
>
> TCB
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| Re: Bass premp/DI [message #77714 is a reply to message #77712] |
Sun, 31 December 2006 19:25 |
Nil
Messages: 245
Registered: March 2007
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"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
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>>>I think the Sansamp's a good one for the money, and I've got
>>>one myself; I think it'd be hard to replace with anything
>>>better for that price range, but I'm sorta interested in trying
>>>one of those Hartke BassAttack ones, too. Only Seventy bucks,
>>>and it makes me wonder if I can get that aluminum cone sound
>>>out of a DI.
>>>
>>>Neil
>
>Neil, wouldn't a really fast preamp do about the same thing?
I dunno, but I doubt it - the Hartke DI, like the Sansamp,
appears to have some tone-shaping things going on that a
straight-ahead preamp doesn't I've got an Avalon 737 that works
great as a bass DI, but its certainly not what I'd consider a
fast preamp. I've DI'd bass on my Grace's, which are faster
than a shithouse mouse, but you can't quite get that "clank"
out of 'em, tho.
Neil
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| Re: Bass premp/DI [message #77715 is a reply to message #77714] |
Sun, 31 December 2006 18:47 |
Aaron Allen
Messages: 1988
Registered: May 2008
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ahhh.. you're looking for the fuzzies to go with it. Gotcha.
Happy New Year man.
Back to nose on the grind stone with this Pulsar.. I'm really impressed so
far with the tone of the synths, having some config issues though working it
as a busmixer yet.. I'll get it figured. Will post up when I have something
worthwhile to mention
AA
"Neil" <IUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:45987130$1@linux...
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> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>
>>>>I think the Sansamp's a good one for the money, and I've got
>>>>one myself; I think it'd be hard to replace with anything
>>>>better for that price range, but I'm sorta interested in trying
>>>>one of those Hartke BassAttack ones, too. Only Seventy bucks,
>>>>and it makes me wonder if I can get that aluminum cone sound
>>>>out of a DI.
>>>>
>>>>Neil
>>
>>Neil, wouldn't a really fast preamp do about the same thing?
>
> I dunno, but I doubt it - the Hartke DI, like the Sansamp,
> appears to have some tone-shaping things going on that a
> straight-ahead preamp doesn't I've got an Avalon 737 that works
> great as a bass DI, but its certainly not what I'd consider a
> fast preamp. I've DI'd bass on my Grace's, which are faster
> than a shithouse mouse, but you can't quite get that "clank"
> out of 'em, tho.
>
> Neil
>
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| Re: Bass premp/DI [message #77717 is a reply to message #77711] |
Sun, 31 December 2006 19:41 |
John Macy
Messages: 242
Registered: April 2006
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The U5 has 6 switchable tone shapes that work really
well. It's way faster than the 737... I also have a
little Yamaha Nathan East eq box we sometimes put in front
for a little more control...
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>This might fit the bill for you, if you're into passing through what's
>there. Make sure you also use a good quality cable, no HOSA crap.
>Personally, I'm using the Monster Bass, YMMV.
>Try ebay to see if you can locate one of these, no idea what they're going
>for.
>
>If you're more into even order harmonics, you might try getting a tube pre
>with an instrument in.
>
>Or another SANS since you know what you had and liked it.
>
>AA
>
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:4598663c$1@linux...
>>
>> Remember that scene in the first Star Wars where Han Yo-Yo is getting
the
>> Millennium Falcon ready to take Whiny Luke and Slinky Leia of to see,
>> well,
>> something important I forget now. Or maybe Slinky Leia wasn't there yet,
>> it was just the Whiny Luke and Whiny C3P0 and Perky Little R2 at that
>> point.
>> Anyway, in a very slapstick moment that was sadly missing from the later
>> Star Wars movies, Harrison Ford as Yo-Yo is all talking up his ship up
>> like
>> it's the most BALLING thing ever and it did the something or another run
>> while making parsec tea and all. So they're finally ready to go and fight
>> the Greatest Battle in History of the Galaxy but first they have to hire
>> Yo-Yo to taxi them there 'cause they don't have any money and they live
on
>> this shitstorm little backwater planet that's like the Kearney, Nebraska
>> of the galaxy and the best they can find to get them to the Greatest
>> Battle
>> in the History of the Galaxy is this shady drug/gun/whatever runner they
>> met in a bar. So Yo-Yo jumps in the pilot seat and flips a bunch of
>> switches
>> and fires up his shitty jalopy of a Millennium Falcon and it makes all
of
>> these cool noises and beeps and the engines start to whine and the lights
>> are all flashing and then it goes
>> BBBBBBRRRRRRRRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMMMMMPPP
>> and all the lights turn off? Well, that's kind of how I feel getting my
>> studio
>> up and running again, expect of course that I don't have any androids
in
>> my house or a Wookie either, which is probably good because I have a cat
>> and if he could beat me at chess like a Wookie could well, screw me I'd
>> have
>> to give him tuna fish EVERY DAY.
>>
>> All of which is to say that I was getting out my bass to start working
on
>> a couple tracks on my fancy new Millennium Falcon DAW and . . . my SansAMP
>> Bass DI has gone to the great DI hereafter where I'm sure at this moment
>> it's covorting with it's bass DI family in eternal bottom crunching bliss.
>> Now then, I'm a dub/reggae/electronica guy so I'm EXTREMELY picky about
>> bass
>> sounds, and most of the time I like to actually play them. I can program
>> a bass line but bass needs to be one of the really organic sounds in the
>> kind of music I make which can sound very non-organic at times. Here's
>> what
>> I liked about the SansAMP.
>>
>> - it was happy to work with any kind of bass. It would boost the lowest
>> output
>> Danelectro to mixer burning levels, but happily deal with a fancy new
>> active
>> bass as well.
>>
>> - it didn't have much color on its own, but it also got everything out
of
>> the bass. That is, it didn't sound 'cool' like an Ampeg mic'ed up, but
it
>> would dutifully pass all of the frequencies coming out of the bass, at
>> very
>> least, and let me work with them later in the mixer with EQ and
>> compression
>> and so on.
>>
>> - but even so the EQ could be useful in many situations.
>>
>> - it had multiple outputs, XLRs, quarter inch, pass through, etc.
>>
>> Now then, I'm more than happy to just get another SansAMP but do you PARIS
>> loving analog mixing golden ears types have suggestions for a better box
>> to be used to plug a bass directly into a mixer or recording device?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> TCB
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| Re: Bass premp/DI [message #77720 is a reply to message #77715] |
Sun, 31 December 2006 19:48 |
TCB
Messages: 1261
Registered: July 2007
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The Avalon suggestion is a little tempting to me as well, I don't usually
need real fast.
What's up with the Scope stuff? I'm getting reasonably good with it, though
I'm still a beginner. If you think I can help certainly let me know.
TCB
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>ahhh.. you're looking for the fuzzies to go with it. Gotcha.
>Happy New Year man.
>Back to nose on the grind stone with this Pulsar.. I'm really impressed
so
>far with the tone of the synths, having some config issues though working
it
>as a busmixer yet.. I'll get it figured. Will post up when I have something
>worthwhile to mention
>AA
>
>
>"Neil" <IUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:45987130$1@linux...
>>
>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>I think the Sansamp's a good one for the money, and I've got
>>>>>one myself; I think it'd be hard to replace with anything
>>>>>better for that price range, but I'm sorta interested in trying
>>>>>one of those Hartke BassAttack ones, too. Only Seventy bucks,
>>>>>and it makes me wonder if I can get that aluminum cone sound
>>>>>out of a DI.
>>>>>
>>>>>Neil
>>>
>>>Neil, wouldn't a really fast preamp do about the same thing?
>>
>> I dunno, but I doubt it - the Hartke DI, like the Sansamp,
>> appears to have some tone-shaping things going on that a
>> straight-ahead preamp doesn't I've got an Avalon 737 that works
>> great as a bass DI, but its certainly not what I'd consider a
>> fast preamp. I've DI'd bass on my Grace's, which are faster
>> than a shithouse mouse, but you can't quite get that "clank"
>> out of 'em, tho.
>>
>> Neil
>>
>>
>>
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| Re: Bass premp/DI [message #77722 is a reply to message #77720] |
Sun, 31 December 2006 19:14 |
DJ
Messages: 1124
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I use a 737 here.
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:45987698@linux...
>
> The Avalon suggestion is a little tempting to me as well, I don't usually
> need real fast.
>
> What's up with the Scope stuff? I'm getting reasonably good with it,
> though
> I'm still a beginner. If you think I can help certainly let me know.
>
> TCB
>
> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>ahhh.. you're looking for the fuzzies to go with it. Gotcha.
>>Happy New Year man.
>>Back to nose on the grind stone with this Pulsar.. I'm really impressed
> so
>>far with the tone of the synths, having some config issues though working
> it
>>as a busmixer yet.. I'll get it figured. Will post up when I have
>>something
>
>>worthwhile to mention
>>AA
>>
>>
>>"Neil" <IUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:45987130$1@linux...
>>>
>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>I think the Sansamp's a good one for the money, and I've got
>>>>>>one myself; I think it'd be hard to replace with anything
>>>>>>better for that price range, but I'm sorta interested in trying
>>>>>>one of those Hartke BassAttack ones, too. Only Seventy bucks,
>>>>>>and it makes me wonder if I can get that aluminum cone sound
>>>>>>out of a DI.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Neil
>>>>
>>>>Neil, wouldn't a really fast preamp do about the same thing?
>>>
>>> I dunno, but I doubt it - the Hartke DI, like the Sansamp,
>>> appears to have some tone-shaping things going on that a
>>> straight-ahead preamp doesn't I've got an Avalon 737 that works
>>> great as a bass DI, but its certainly not what I'd consider a
>>> fast preamp. I've DI'd bass on my Grace's, which are faster
>>> than a shithouse mouse, but you can't quite get that "clank"
>>> out of 'em, tho.
>>>
>>> Neil
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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| Re: Bass premp/DI [message #77728 is a reply to message #77707] |
Sun, 31 December 2006 21:43 |
LaMont
Messages: 828
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Yep..The Avalon U5 is a killer Bass/Guitar Preamp. You may also want to checkout:
-The Focusrite Instrument channel (Platinum range)..
-Art Pro channel..
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>
>Remember that scene in the first Star Wars where Han Yo-Yo is getting the
>Millennium Falcon ready to take Whiny Luke and Slinky Leia of to see, well,
>something important I forget now. Or maybe Slinky Leia wasn't there yet,
>it was just the Whiny Luke and Whiny C3P0 and Perky Little R2 at that point.
>Anyway, in a very slapstick moment that was sadly missing from the later
>Star Wars movies, Harrison Ford as Yo-Yo is all talking up his ship up like
>it's the most BALLING thing ever and it did the something or another run
>while making parsec tea and all. So they're finally ready to go and fight
>the Greatest Battle in History of the Galaxy but first they have to hire
>Yo-Yo to taxi them there 'cause they don't have any money and they live
on
>this shitstorm little backwater planet that's like the Kearney, Nebraska
>of the galaxy and the best they can find to get them to the Greatest Battle
>in the History of the Galaxy is this shady drug/gun/whatever runner they
>met in a bar. So Yo-Yo jumps in the pilot seat and flips a bunch of switches
>and fires up his shitty jalopy of a Millennium Falcon and it makes all of
>these cool noises and beeps and the engines start to whine and the lights
>are all flashing and then it goes BBBBBBRRRRRRRRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMMMMMPPP
>and all the lights turn off? Well, that's kind of how I feel getting my
studio
>up and running again, expect of course that I don't have any androids in
>my house or a Wookie either, which is probably good because I have a cat
>and if he could beat me at chess like a Wookie could well, screw me I'd
have
>to give him tuna fish EVERY DAY.
>
>All of which is to say that I was getting out my bass to start working on
>a couple tracks on my fancy new Millennium Falcon DAW and . . . my SansAMP
>Bass DI has gone to the great DI hereafter where I'm sure at this moment
>it's covorting with it's bass DI family in eternal bottom crunching bliss.
>Now then, I'm a dub/reggae/electronica guy so I'm EXTREMELY picky about
bass
>sounds, and most of the time I like to actually play them. I can program
>a bass line but bass needs to be one of the really organic sounds in the
>kind of music I make which can sound very non-organic at times. Here's what
>I liked about the SansAMP.
>
>- it was happy to work with any kind of bass. It would boost the lowest
output
>Danelectro to mixer burning levels, but happily deal with a fancy new active
>bass as well.
>
>- it didn't have much color on its own, but it also got everything out of
>the bass. That is, it didn't sound 'cool' like an Ampeg mic'ed up, but it
>would dutifully pass all of the frequencies coming out of the bass, at very
>least, and let me work with them later in the mixer with EQ and compression
>and so on.
>
>- but even so the EQ could be useful in many situations.
>
>- it had multiple outputs, XLRs, quarter inch, pass through, etc.
>
>Now then, I'm more than happy to just get another SansAMP but do you PARIS
>loving analog mixing golden ears types have suggestions for a better box
>to be used to plug a bass directly into a mixer or recording device?
>
>Thanks,
>
>TCB
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| Re: Bass premp/DI [message #77735 is a reply to message #77728] |
Mon, 01 January 2007 06:25 |
AlexPlasko
Messages: 211
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You might want to try a BBE D1-100 direct box. they have the bbe
enhancement built in. The bass "players" I've had here prefer the avalon
737 for bass DI . I dont have a U5. Will i die without one? These things i
must know.
"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:45989167$1@linux...
>
> Yep..The Avalon U5 is a killer Bass/Guitar Preamp. You may also want to
> checkout:
>
> -The Focusrite Instrument channel (Platinum range)..
> -Art Pro channel..
>
>
> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>
>>Remember that scene in the first Star Wars where Han Yo-Yo is getting the
>>Millennium Falcon ready to take Whiny Luke and Slinky Leia of to see,
>>well,
>>something important I forget now. Or maybe Slinky Leia wasn't there yet,
>>it was just the Whiny Luke and Whiny C3P0 and Perky Little R2 at that
>>point.
>>Anyway, in a very slapstick moment that was sadly missing from the later
>>Star Wars movies, Harrison Ford as Yo-Yo is all talking up his ship up
>>like
>>it's the most BALLING thing ever and it did the something or another run
>>while making parsec tea and all. So they're finally ready to go and fight
>>the Greatest Battle in History of the Galaxy but first they have to hire
>>Yo-Yo to taxi them there 'cause they don't have any money and they live
> on
>>this shitstorm little backwater planet that's like the Kearney, Nebraska
>>of the galaxy and the best they can find to get them to the Greatest
>>Battle
>>in the History of the Galaxy is this shady drug/gun/whatever runner they
>>met in a bar. So Yo-Yo jumps in the pilot seat and flips a bunch of
>>switches
>>and fires up his shitty jalopy of a Millennium Falcon and it makes all of
>>these cool noises and beeps and the engines start to whine and the lights
>>are all flashing and then it goes
>>BBBBBBRRRRRRRRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMMMMMPPP
>>and all the lights turn off? Well, that's kind of how I feel getting my
> studio
>>up and running again, expect of course that I don't have any androids in
>>my house or a Wookie either, which is probably good because I have a cat
>>and if he could beat me at chess like a Wookie could well, screw me I'd
> have
>>to give him tuna fish EVERY DAY.
>>
>>All of which is to say that I was getting out my bass to start working on
>>a couple tracks on my fancy new Millennium Falcon DAW and . . . my SansAMP
>>Bass DI has gone to the great DI hereafter where I'm sure at this moment
>>it's covorting with it's bass DI family in eternal bottom crunching bliss.
>>Now then, I'm a dub/reggae/electronica guy so I'm EXTREMELY picky about
> bass
>>sounds, and most of the time I like to actually play them. I can program
>>a bass line but bass needs to be one of the really organic sounds in the
>>kind of music I make which can sound very non-organic at times. Here's
>>what
>>I liked about the SansAMP.
>>
>>- it was happy to work with any kind of bass. It would boost the lowest
> output
>>Danelectro to mixer burning levels, but happily deal with a fancy new
>>active
>>bass as well.
>>
>>- it didn't have much color on its own, but it also got everything out of
>>the bass. That is, it didn't sound 'cool' like an Ampeg mic'ed up, but it
>>would dutifully pass all of the frequencies coming out of the bass, at
>>very
>>least, and let me work with them later in the mixer with EQ and
>>compression
>>and so on.
>>
>>- but even so the EQ could be useful in many situations.
>>
>>- it had multiple outputs, XLRs, quarter inch, pass through, etc.
>>
>>Now then, I'm more than happy to just get another SansAMP but do you PARIS
>>loving analog mixing golden ears types have suggestions for a better box
>>to be used to plug a bass directly into a mixer or recording device?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>TCB
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| Re: Bass premp/DI [message #77747 is a reply to message #77735] |
Mon, 01 January 2007 09:28 |
DJ
Messages: 1124
Registered: July 2005
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"alex plasko" <alex.plasko@snet.net> wrote in message news:4599172c@linux...
> You might want to try a BBE D1-100 direct box. they have the bbe
> enhancement built in. The bass "players" I've had here prefer the avalon
> 737 for bass DI . I dont have a U5. Will i die without one? These things
> i must know.
Can you afford to take the chance???..............this is life and death
stuff man.
;o)
> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:45989167$1@linux...
>>
>> Yep..The Avalon U5 is a killer Bass/Guitar Preamp. You may also want to
>> checkout:
>>
>> -The Focusrite Instrument channel (Platinum range)..
>> -Art Pro channel..
>>
>>
>> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Remember that scene in the first Star Wars where Han Yo-Yo is getting the
>>>Millennium Falcon ready to take Whiny Luke and Slinky Leia of to see,
>>>well,
>>>something important I forget now. Or maybe Slinky Leia wasn't there yet,
>>>it was just the Whiny Luke and Whiny C3P0 and Perky Little R2 at that
>>>point.
>>>Anyway, in a very slapstick moment that was sadly missing from the later
>>>Star Wars movies, Harrison Ford as Yo-Yo is all talking up his ship up
>>>like
>>>it's the most BALLING thing ever and it did the something or another run
>>>while making parsec tea and all. So they're finally ready to go and fight
>>>the Greatest Battle in History of the Galaxy but first they have to hire
>>>Yo-Yo to taxi them there 'cause they don't have any money and they live
>> on
>>>this shitstorm little backwater planet that's like the Kearney, Nebraska
>>>of the galaxy and the best they can find to get them to the Greatest
>>>Battle
>>>in the History of the Galaxy is this shady drug/gun/whatever runner they
>>>met in a bar. So Yo-Yo jumps in the pilot seat and flips a bunch of
>>>switches
>>>and fires up his shitty jalopy of a Millennium Falcon and it makes all of
>>>these cool noises and beeps and the engines start to whine and the lights
>>>are all flashing and then it goes
>>>BBBBBBRRRRRRRRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMMMMMPPP
>>>and all the lights turn off? Well, that's kind of how I feel getting my
>> studio
>>>up and running again, expect of course that I don't have any androids in
>>>my house or a Wookie either, which is probably good because I have a cat
>>>and if he could beat me at chess like a Wookie could well, screw me I'd
>> have
>>>to give him tuna fish EVERY DAY.
>>>
>>>All of which is to say that I was getting out my bass to start working on
>>>a couple tracks on my fancy new Millennium Falcon DAW and . . . my
>>>SansAMP
>>>Bass DI has gone to the great DI hereafter where I'm sure at this moment
>>>it's covorting with it's bass DI family in eternal bottom crunching
>>>bliss.
>>>Now then, I'm a dub/reggae/electronica guy so I'm EXTREMELY picky about
>> bass
>>>sounds, and most of the time I like to actually play them. I can program
>>>a bass line but bass needs to be one of the really organic sounds in the
>>>kind of music I make which can sound very non-organic at times. Here's
>>>what
>>>I liked about the SansAMP.
>>>
>>>- it was happy to work with any kind of bass. It would boost the lowest
>> output
>>>Danelectro to mixer burning levels, but happily deal with a fancy new
>>>active
>>>bass as well.
>>>
>>>- it didn't have much color on its own, but it also got everything out of
>>>the bass. That is, it didn't sound 'cool' like an Ampeg mic'ed up, but it
>>>would dutifully pass all of the frequencies coming out of the bass, at
>>>very
>>>least, and let me work with them later in the mixer with EQ and
>>>compression
>>>and so on.
>>>
>>>- but even so the EQ could be useful in many situations.
>>>
>>>- it had multiple outputs, XLRs, quarter inch, pass through, etc.
>>>
>>>Now then, I'm more than happy to just get another SansAMP but do you
>>>PARIS
>>>loving analog mixing golden ears types have suggestions for a better box
>>>to be used to plug a bass directly into a mixer or recording device?
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>
>>>TCB
>>
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| Re: Bass premp/DI [message #77749 is a reply to message #77711] |
Mon, 01 January 2007 10:28 |
duncan
Messages: 123
Registered: November 2006
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Purty!
chas
On Sun, 31 Dec 2006 20:19:15 -0600, "Aaron Allen"
<know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>This might fit the bill for you, if you're into passing through what's
>there. Make sure you also use a good quality cable, no HOSA crap.
>Personally, I'm using the Monster Bass, YMMV.
>Try ebay to see if you can locate one of these, no idea what they're going
>for.
>
>If you're more into even order harmonics, you might try getting a tube pre
>with an instrument in.
>
>Or another SANS since you know what you had and liked it.
>
>AA
>
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:4598663c$1@linux...
>>
>> Remember that scene in the first Star Wars where Han Yo-Yo is getting the
>> Millennium Falcon ready to take Whiny Luke and Slinky Leia of to see,
>> well,
>> something important I forget now. Or maybe Slinky Leia wasn't there yet,
>> it was just the Whiny Luke and Whiny C3P0 and Perky Little R2 at that
>> point.
>> Anyway, in a very slapstick moment that was sadly missing from the later
>> Star Wars movies, Harrison Ford as Yo-Yo is all talking up his ship up
>> like
>> it's the most BALLING thing ever and it did the something or another run
>> while making parsec tea and all. So they're finally ready to go and fight
>> the Greatest Battle in History of the Galaxy but first they have to hire
>> Yo-Yo to taxi them there 'cause they don't have any money and they live on
>> this shitstorm little backwater planet that's like the Kearney, Nebraska
>> of the galaxy and the best they can find to get them to the Greatest
>> Battle
>> in the History of the Galaxy is this shady drug/gun/whatever runner they
>> met in a bar. So Yo-Yo jumps in the pilot seat and flips a bunch of
>> switches
>> and fires up his shitty jalopy of a Millennium Falcon and it makes all of
>> these cool noises and beeps and the engines start to whine and the lights
>> are all flashing and then it goes
>> BBBBBBRRRRRRRRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMMMMMPPP
>> and all the lights turn off? Well, that's kind of how I feel getting my
>> studio
>> up and running again, expect of course that I don't have any androids in
>> my house or a Wookie either, which is probably good because I have a cat
>> and if he could beat me at chess like a Wookie could well, screw me I'd
>> have
>> to give him tuna fish EVERY DAY.
>>
>> All of which is to say that I was getting out my bass to start working on
>> a couple tracks on my fancy new Millennium Falcon DAW and . . . my SansAMP
>> Bass DI has gone to the great DI hereafter where I'm sure at this moment
>> it's covorting with it's bass DI family in eternal bottom crunching bliss.
>> Now then, I'm a dub/reggae/electronica guy so I'm EXTREMELY picky about
>> bass
>> sounds, and most of the time I like to actually play them. I can program
>> a bass line but bass needs to be one of the really organic sounds in the
>> kind of music I make which can sound very non-organic at times. Here's
>> what
>> I liked about the SansAMP.
>>
>> - it was happy to work with any kind of bass. It would boost the lowest
>> output
>> Danelectro to mixer burning levels, but happily deal with a fancy new
>> active
>> bass as well.
>>
>> - it didn't have much color on its own, but it also got everything out of
>> the bass. That is, it didn't sound 'cool' like an Ampeg mic'ed up, but it
>> would dutifully pass all of the frequencies coming out of the bass, at
>> very
>> least, and let me work with them later in the mixer with EQ and
>> compression
>> and so on.
>>
>> - but even so the EQ could be useful in many situations.
>>
>> - it had multiple outputs, XLRs, quarter inch, pass through, etc.
>>
>> Now then, I'm more than happy to just get another SansAMP but do you PARIS
>> loving analog mixing golden ears types have suggestions for a better box
>> to be used to plug a bass directly into a mixer or recording device?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> TCB
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| Re: Bass premp/DI [message #77751 is a reply to message #77707] |
Mon, 01 January 2007 11:55 |
duncan
Messages: 123
Registered: November 2006
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Not to complain, but -- has their maybe been a recent (possibly
unauthorized) augmentation of your caffeine uptake?
-- anyway, Happy New Year to you -- may your DI's be merry and
bright...
-- chas.
On 1 Jan 2007 12:39:08 +1000, "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>
>Remember that scene in the first Star Wars where Han Yo-Yo is getting the
>Millennium Falcon ready to take Whiny Luke and Slinky Leia of to see, well,
>something important I forget now. Or maybe Slinky Leia wasn't there yet,
>it was just the Whiny Luke and Whiny C3P0 and Perky Little R2 at that point.
>Anyway, in a very slapstick moment that was sadly missing from the later
>Star Wars movies, Harrison Ford as Yo-Yo is all talking up his ship up like
>it's the most BALLING thing ever and it did the something or another run
>while making parsec tea and all. So they're finally ready to go and fight
>the Greatest Battle in History of the Galaxy but first they have to hire
>Yo-Yo to taxi them there 'cause they don't have any money and they live on
>this shitstorm little backwater planet that's like the Kearney, Nebraska
>of the galaxy and the best they can find to get them to the Greatest Battle
>in the History of the Galaxy is this shady drug/gun/whatever runner they
>met in a bar. So Yo-Yo jumps in the pilot seat and flips a bunch of switches
>and fires up his shitty jalopy of a Millennium Falcon and it makes all of
>these cool noises and beeps and the engines start to whine and the lights
>are all flashing and then it goes BBBBBBRRRRRRRRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMMMMMPPP
>and all the lights turn off? Well, that's kind of how I feel getting my studio
>up and running again, expect of course that I don't have any androids in
>my house or a Wookie either, which is probably good because I have a cat
>and if he could beat me at chess like a Wookie could well, screw me I'd have
>to give him tuna fish EVERY DAY.
>
>All of which is to say that I was getting out my bass to start working on
>a couple tracks on my fancy new Millennium Falcon DAW and . . . my SansAMP
>Bass DI has gone to the great DI hereafter where I'm sure at this moment
>it's covorting with it's bass DI family in eternal bottom crunching bliss.
>Now then, I'm a dub/reggae/electronica guy so I'm EXTREMELY picky about bass
>sounds, and most of the time I like to actually play them. I can program
>a bass line but bass needs to be one of the really organic sounds in the
>kind of music I make which can sound very non-organic at times. Here's what
>I liked about the SansAMP.
>
>- it was happy to work with any kind of bass. It would boost the lowest output
>Danelectro to mixer burning levels, but happily deal with a fancy new active
>bass as well.
>
>- it didn't have much color on its own, but it also got everything out of
>the bass. That is, it didn't sound 'cool' like an Ampeg mic'ed up, but it
>would dutifully pass all of the frequencies coming out of the bass, at very
>least, and let me work with them later in the mixer with EQ and compression
>and so on.
>
>- but even so the EQ could be useful in many situations.
>
>- it had multiple outputs, XLRs, quarter inch, pass through, etc.
>
>Now then, I'm more than happy to just get another SansAMP but do you PARIS
>loving analog mixing golden ears types have suggestions for a better box
>to be used to plug a bass directly into a mixer or recording device?
>
>Thanks,
>
>TCB
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| Re: Bass premp/DI - latte.jpg (0/1) [message #77752 is a reply to message #77751] |
Mon, 01 January 2007 12:02 |
duncan
Messages: 123
Registered: November 2006
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Further on this: here's a good representation of the setup at my
house...
-- chas
On Mon, 01 Jan 2007 11:55:08 -0800, Chas. Duncan
<duncan5199ATsbcglobalDOTnet@> wrote:
>Not to complain, but -- has their maybe been a recent (possibly
>unauthorized) augmentation of your caffeine uptake?
>
>-- anyway, Happy New Year to you -- may your DI's be merry and
>bright...
>
>-- chas.
>
>
>On 1 Jan 2007 12:39:08 +1000, "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>Remember that scene in the first Star Wars where Han Yo-Yo is getting the
>>Millennium Falcon ready to take Whiny Luke and Slinky Leia of to see, well,
>>something important I forget now. Or maybe Slinky Leia wasn't there yet,
>>it was just the Whiny Luke and Whiny C3P0 and Perky Little R2 at that point.
>>Anyway, in a very slapstick moment that was sadly missing from the later
>>Star Wars movies, Harrison Ford as Yo-Yo is all talking up his ship up like
>>it's the most BALLING thing ever and it did the something or another run
>>while making parsec tea and all. So they're finally ready to go and fight
>>the Greatest Battle in History of the Galaxy but first they have to hire
>>Yo-Yo to taxi them there 'cause they don't have any money and they live on
>>this shitstorm little backwater planet that's like the Kearney, Nebraska
>>of the galaxy and the best they can find to get them to the Greatest Battle
>>in the History of the Galaxy is this shady drug/gun/whatever runner they
>>met in a bar. So Yo-Yo jumps in the pilot seat and flips a bunch of switches
>>and fires up his shitty jalopy of a Millennium Falcon and it makes all of
>>these cool noises and beeps and the engines start to whine and the lights
>>are all flashing and then it goes BBBBBBRRRRRRRRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMMMMMPPP
>>and all the lights turn off? Well, that's kind of how I feel getting my studio
>>up and running again, expect of course that I don't have any androids in
>>my house or a Wookie either, which is probably good because I have a cat
>>and if he could beat me at chess like a Wookie could well, screw me I'd have
>>to give him tuna fish EVERY DAY.
>>
>>All of which is to say that I was getting out my bass to start working on
>>a couple tracks on my fancy new Millennium Falcon DAW and . . . my SansAMP
>>Bass DI has gone to the great DI hereafter where I'm sure at this moment
>>it's covorting with it's bass DI family in eternal bottom crunching bliss.
>>Now then, I'm a dub/reggae/electronica guy so I'm EXTREMELY picky about bass
>>sounds, and most of the time I like to actually play them. I can program
>>a bass line but bass needs to be one of the really organic sounds in the
>>kind of music I make which can sound very non-organic at times. Here's what
>>I liked about the SansAMP.
>>
>>- it was happy to work with any kind of bass. It would boost the lowest output
>>Danelectro to mixer burning levels, but happily deal with a fancy new active
>>bass as well.
>>
>>- it didn't have much color on its own, but it also got everything out of
>>the bass. That is, it didn't sound 'cool' like an Ampeg mic'ed up, but it
>>would dutifully pass all of the frequencies coming out of the bass, at very
>>least, and let me work with them later in the mixer with EQ and compression
>>and so on.
>>
>>- but even so the EQ could be useful in many situations.
>>
>>- it had multiple outputs, XLRs, quarter inch, pass through, etc.
>>
>>Now then, I'm more than happy to just get another SansAMP but do you PARIS
>>loving analog mixing golden ears types have suggestions for a better box
>>to be used to plug a bass directly into a mixer or recording device?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>TCB
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| Re: Bass premp/DI [message #77778 is a reply to message #77720] |
Tue, 02 January 2007 10:12 |
Aaron Allen
Messages: 1988
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What I'm looking to do is use the synths and mixer in XTC mode with Sonar
using ASIO. I'd like to have the plugs show up in SONAR along with synths..
this is doable?
AA
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:45987698@linux...
>
> The Avalon suggestion is a little tempting to me as well, I don't usually
> need real fast.
>
> What's up with the Scope stuff? I'm getting reasonably good with it,
> though
> I'm still a beginner. If you think I can help certainly let me know.
>
> TCB
>
> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>ahhh.. you're looking for the fuzzies to go with it. Gotcha.
>>Happy New Year man.
>>Back to nose on the grind stone with this Pulsar.. I'm really impressed
> so
>>far with the tone of the synths, having some config issues though working
> it
>>as a busmixer yet.. I'll get it figured. Will post up when I have
>>something
>
>>worthwhile to mention
>>AA
>>
>>
>>"Neil" <IUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:45987130$1@linux...
>>>
>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>I think the Sansamp's a good one for the money, and I've got
>>>>>>one myself; I think it'd be hard to replace with anything
>>>>>>better for that price range, but I'm sorta interested in trying
>>>>>>one of those Hartke BassAttack ones, too. Only Seventy bucks,
>>>>>>and it makes me wonder if I can get that aluminum cone sound
>>>>>>out of a DI.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Neil
>>>>
>>>>Neil, wouldn't a really fast preamp do about the same thing?
>>>
>>> I dunno, but I doubt it - the Hartke DI, like the Sansamp,
>>> appears to have some tone-shaping things going on that a
>>> straight-ahead preamp doesn't I've got an Avalon 737 that works
>>> great as a bass DI, but its certainly not what I'd consider a
>>> fast preamp. I've DI'd bass on my Grace's, which are faster
>>> than a shithouse mouse, but you can't quite get that "clank"
>>> out of 'em, tho.
>>>
>>> Neil
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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| Re: Bass premp/DI [message #77783 is a reply to message #77778] |
Tue, 02 January 2007 11:52 |
Tom Bruhl
Messages: 1368
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Aaron,
XTC mode is smokin in Cubase 2.
Pro card here.
Tom
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message =
news:459a9dcd@linux...
What I'm looking to do is use the synths and mixer in XTC mode with =
Sonar=20
using ASIO. I'd like to have the plugs show up in SONAR along with =
synths..=20
this is doable?
AA
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:45987698@linux...
>
> The Avalon suggestion is a little tempting to me as well, I don't =
usually
> need real fast.
>
> What's up with the Scope stuff? I'm getting reasonably good with it, =
> though
> I'm still a beginner. If you think I can help certainly let me know.
>
> TCB
>
> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>ahhh.. you're looking for the fuzzies to go with it. Gotcha.
>>Happy New Year man.
>>Back to nose on the grind stone with this Pulsar.. I'm really =
impressed
> so
>>far with the tone of the synths, having some config issues though =
working
> it
>>as a busmixer yet.. I'll get it figured. Will post up when I have=20
>>something
>
>>worthwhile to mention
>>AA
>>
>>
>>"Neil" <IUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:45987130$1@linux...
>>>
>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>I think the Sansamp's a good one for the money, and I've got
>>>>>>one myself; I think it'd be hard to replace with anything
>>>>>>better for that price range, but I'm sorta interested in trying
>>>>>>one of those Hartke BassAttack ones, too. Only Seventy bucks,
>>>>>>and it makes me wonder if I can get that aluminum cone sound
>>>>>>out of a DI.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Neil
>>>>
>>>>Neil, wouldn't a really fast preamp do about the same thing?
>>>
>>> I dunno, but I doubt it - the Hartke DI, like the Sansamp,
>>> appears to have some tone-shaping things going on that a
>>> straight-ahead preamp doesn't I've got an Avalon 737 that works
>>> great as a bass DI, but its certainly not what I'd consider a
>>> fast preamp. I've DI'd bass on my Grace's, which are faster
>>> than a shithouse mouse, but you can't quite get that "clank"
>>> out of 'em, tho.
>>>
>>> Neil
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Aaron,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>XTC mode is smokin in Cubase =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Pro card here.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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ASIO. I'd like to have the plugs show up in SONAR along with synths.. =
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is doable?<BR>AA<BR><BR><BR>"TCB" <<A=20
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If you=20
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TCB<BR>><BR>>=20
"Aaron Allen" <<A=20
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wrote:<BR>>>ahhh.. you're looking for the fuzzies to go with it. =
Gotcha.<BR>>>Happy New Year man.<BR>>>Back to nose on the =
grind=20
stone with this Pulsar.. I'm really impressed<BR>> =
so<BR>>>far with=20
the tone of the synths, having some config issues though =
working<BR>>=20
it<BR>>>as a busmixer yet.. I'll get it figured. Will post up =
when I=20
have <BR>>>something<BR>><BR>>>worthwhile to=20
mention<BR>>>AA<BR>>><BR>>> <BR>>>"Neil" <<A =
href=3D"mailto:IUOIU@OIU.com">IUOIU@OIU.com</A>> wrote in message =
<A=20
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t;<BR>>>>=20
"Aaron Allen" <<A=20
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wrote:<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>>>I think the =
Sansamp's a=20
good one for the money, and I've got<BR>>>>>>>one =
myself; I=20
think it'd be hard to replace with =
anything<BR>>>>>>>better=20
for that price range, but I'm sorta interested in=20
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too.=20
Only Seventy bucks,<BR>>>>>>>and it makes me wonder =
if I can=20
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my=20
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| Re: Bass premp/DI [message #77791 is a reply to message #77783] |
Tue, 02 January 2007 13:20 |
TCB
Messages: 1261
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I'm not a Sonar user, so I can't help much. But there is a whole section of
the planetz forums dedicated to XTC mode. Read those and then ask a few questions.
TCB
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Aaron,
>XTC mode is smokin in Cubase 2.
>Pro card here.
>Tom
> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message =
>news:459a9dcd@linux...
> What I'm looking to do is use the synths and mixer in XTC mode with =
>Sonar=20
> using ASIO. I'd like to have the plugs show up in SONAR along with =
>synths..=20
> this is doable?
> AA
>
>
> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:45987698@linux...
> >
> > The Avalon suggestion is a little tempting to me as well, I don't =
>usually
> > need real fast.
> >
> > What's up with the Scope stuff? I'm getting reasonably good with it,
=
>
> > though
> > I'm still a beginner. If you think I can help certainly let me know.
> >
> > TCB
> >
> > "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
> >>ahhh.. you're looking for the fuzzies to go with it. Gotcha.
> >>Happy New Year man.
> >>Back to nose on the grind stone with this Pulsar.. I'm really =
>impressed
> > so
> >>far with the tone of the synths, having some config issues though =
>working
> > it
> >>as a busmixer yet.. I'll get it figured. Will post up when I have=20
> >>something
> >
> >>worthwhile to mention
> >>AA
> >>
> >>
> >>"Neil" <IUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:45987130$1@linux...
> >>>
> >>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>>I think the Sansamp's a good one for the money, and I've got
> >>>>>>one myself; I think it'd be hard to replace with anything
> >>>>>>better for that price range, but I'm sorta interested in trying
> >>>>>>one of those Hartke BassAttack ones, too. Only Seventy bucks,
> >>>>>>and it makes me wonder if I can get that aluminum cone sound
> >>>>>>out of a DI.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Neil
> >>>>
> >>>>Neil, wouldn't a really fast preamp do about the same thing?
> >>>
> >>> I dunno, but I doubt it - the Hartke DI, like the Sansamp,
> >>> appears to have some tone-shaping things going on that a
> >>> straight-ahead preamp doesn't I've got an Avalon 737 that works
> >>> great as a bass DI, but its certainly not what I'd consider a
> >>> fast preamp. I've DI'd bass on my Grace's, which are faster
> >>> than a shithouse mouse, but you can't quite get that "clank"
> >>> out of 'em, tho.
> >>>
> >>> Neil
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >=20
>
>
>
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><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Aaron,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>XTC mode is smokin in Cubase =
>2.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Pro card here.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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> <DIV>"Aaron Allen" <<A=20
> =
>href=3D"mailto:know-spam@not_here.dude">know-spam@not_here.dude</A>> =
>wrote in=20
> message <A =
>href=3D"news:459a9dcd@linux">news:459a9dcd@linux</A>...</DIV>What I'm=20
> looking to do is use the synths and mixer in XTC mode with Sonar =
><BR>using=20
> ASIO. I'd like to have the plugs show up in SONAR along with synths..
=
><BR>this=20
> is doable?<BR>AA<BR><BR><BR>"TCB" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:nobody@ishere.com">nobody@ishere.com</A>> wrote in =
>message <A=20
> =
>href=3D"news:45987698@linux">news:45987698@linux</A>...<BR>><BR>> =
>The=20
> Avalon suggestion is a little tempting to me as well, I don't =
>usually<BR>>=20
> need real fast.<BR>><BR>> What's up with the Scope stuff? I'm =
>getting=20
> reasonably good with it, <BR>> though<BR>> I'm still a beginner. =
>If you=20
> think I can help certainly let me know.<BR>><BR>> =
>TCB<BR>><BR>>=20
> "Aaron Allen" <<A=20
> =
>href=3D"mailto:know-spam@not_here.dude">know-spam@not_here.dude</A>>=20
> wrote:<BR>>>ahhh.. you're looking for the fuzzies to go with it. =
>
> Gotcha.<BR>>>Happy New Year man.<BR>>>Back to nose on the =
>grind=20
> stone with this Pulsar.. I'm really impressed<BR>> =
>so<BR>>>far with=20
> the tone of the synths, having some config issues though =
>working<BR>>=20
> it<BR>>>as a busmixer yet.. I'll get it figured. Will post up =
>when I=20
> have <BR>>>something<BR>><BR>>>worthwhile to=20
> mention<BR>>>AA<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>"Neil" <<A =
>
> href=3D"mailto:IUOIU@OIU.com">IUOIU@OIU.com</A>> wrote in message =
><A=20
> =
>href=3D"news:45987130$1@linux">news:45987130$1@linux</A>...<BR>>>&g=
>t;<BR>>>>=20
> "Aaron Allen" <<A=20
> =
>href=3D"mailto:know-spam@not_here.dude">know-spam@not_here.dude</A>>=20
> wrote:<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>>>I think the =
>Sansamp's a=20
> good one for the money, and I've got<BR>>>>>>>one =
>myself; I=20
> think it'd be hard to replace with =
>anything<BR>>>>>>>better=20
> for that price range, but I'm sorta interested in=20
> trying<BR>>>>>>>one of those Hartke BassAttack ones, =
>too.=20
> Only Seventy bucks,<BR>>>>>>>and it makes me wonder =
>if I can=20
> get that aluminum cone sound<BR>>>>>>>out of a=20
> =
>DI.<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>Neil<BR>>&g=
>t;>><BR>>>>>Neil,=20
> wouldn't a really fast preamp do about the same=20
> thing?<BR>>>><BR>>>> I dunno, but I doubt it - the =
>Hartke=20
> DI, like the Sansamp,<BR>>>> appears to have some =
>tone-shaping things=20
> going on that a<BR>>>> straight-ahead preamp doesn't I've got =
>an=20
> Avalon 737 that works<BR>>>> great as a bass DI, but its =
>certainly=20
> not what I'd consider a<BR>>>> fast preamp. I've DI'd bass on =
>my=20
> Grace's, which are faster<BR>>>> than a shithouse mouse, but =
>you=20
> can't quite get that "clank"<BR>>>> out of 'em,=20
> tho.<BR>>>><BR>>>>=20
> =
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| Re: Pulsar config issues [message #77805 is a reply to message #77774] |
Tue, 02 January 2007 19:09 |
Nil
Messages: 245
Registered: March 2007
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See what you hath wrought, Dimitrios - with all your Prior
Pulsar Preaching? lol
Neil
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
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>Dear Aaron,
>Please email me , I lost all my inbox this week, Happy new year !!
>Regards,
>Dimitrios
>
>ps: If you email creamware info@creamware.de and give them the serial number
>of your card they will transfer it to your account.
>Ask them also directly for a 4.0 download for the card.
>The 4.5 version needs to be bought though.
>I myself still work with 4.0.
>There was no update or bug fix.
>Just some plugins to buy with...
>I already had 80% of them so did not bother...
>Regards,
>Dimitrios
>
>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>I can't seem to get XTC mode to do what I want it to do with Sonar. I'm
>also
>>having to use an older version of Creamware until the previous owner of
>the
>>card gets it all sussed out / creamware returns from hiatus. I'd hate
to
>
>>waste your time on dealing with 3.1 SFP when the expectation is to move
>it
>>to 4.0 asap.
>>
>>AA
>>
>>"Neil" <IUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:45987576$1@linux...
>>>
>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>>>Back to nose on the grind stone with this Pulsar.. I'm really impressed
>>> so
>>>>far with the tone of the synths, having some config issues though working
>>> it
>>>>as a busmixer yet.. I'll get it figured.
>>>
>>> What kind of config issues?
>>>
>>> Neil
>>
>>
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