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For Lamont :) [message #76379] Thu, 23 November 2006 12:28 Go to next message
John Macy is currently offline  John Macy
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Registered: April 2006
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Lamont,

You mentioned in the Pulsar thread:

"My XP /Paris rig is so stable, and with the URS and Waves SSL plugins..
It's
mixing dream for ITBB mixing.."

Would you mind posting your setup, computerswise especially, but
also Paris hardware. I really don;t want to jump through as many
hoops as the multi computer thing. I am getting fantastic
results as is with paris, especially using lots of analog inserts
and external verbs. I just want to increase my horsepower and go
to the SSL plugs etc. SOunds like you are doing what I want to do.

I use 3 mecs with 8 analog inserts per mec (8in/8out cards) with a huge rack
of outboard. A couple of ADAT cards for returning the verbs like the KSP8,
spdif i/os for verbs on various cards, and IF2's for multing via analog
verb sends across submixes etc.

I have one UAD card and usually get a sound I like and just render it.

I want to go to a 4 mec setup, with more plugin horsepower. Like I said,
I love my setup, and it brings me all the work I can handle.

My inquiring mind wants to know... :) 'preciate it...
Re: For Lamont :) [message #76381 is a reply to message #76379] Thu, 23 November 2006 12:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DJ is currently offline  DJ   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1124
Registered: July 2005
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John,

If I may.since I've also thought about this, I think LaMont is running Paris
on Win XP since he would have to in order to get the URS and Waves plugins
working. As far as a PC goes, having as much CPU horsepower as possible
would be good though I hear the URS plugs are pretty efficient.

I've got 3 xd EDS cards on loan here and now that the dust is settling, I'm
going to be building an experimental rig using a Gigabyte GA-K8nS Ultra 939
mobo and a dualcore AMD CPU, but there have been good reports of using this
mobo with the AMD 64 3500+ CPU. that might be plenty of horsepower for what
you want to do.

Happy Thanksgiving,

DJ

"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote in message
news:4565f647$1@linux...
>
> Lamont,
>
> You mentioned in the Pulsar thread:
>
> "My XP /Paris rig is so stable, and with the URS and Waves SSL plugins..
> It's
> mixing dream for ITBB mixing.."
>
> Would you mind posting your setup, computerswise especially, but
> also Paris hardware. I really don;t want to jump through as many
> hoops as the multi computer thing. I am getting fantastic
> results as is with paris, especially using lots of analog inserts
> and external verbs. I just want to increase my horsepower and go
> to the SSL plugs etc. SOunds like you are doing what I want to do.
>
> I use 3 mecs with 8 analog inserts per mec (8in/8out cards) with a huge
rack
> of outboard. A couple of ADAT cards for returning the verbs like the
KSP8,
> spdif i/os for verbs on various cards, and IF2's for multing via analog
> verb sends across submixes etc.
>
> I have one UAD card and usually get a sound I like and just render it.
>
> I want to go to a 4 mec setup, with more plugin horsepower. Like I said,
> I love my setup, and it brings me all the work I can handle.
>
> My inquiring mind wants to know... :) 'preciate it...
>
Re: For Lamont :) [message #76385 is a reply to message #76381] Thu, 23 November 2006 15:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John Macy is currently offline  John Macy
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Registered: April 2006
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Thanks, DJ--keep me posted. I bought the same motherboard and am looking
to build an XP rig to handle the above. The SSL plugs look appealing, assuming
they are close...:) I'll keep my tracking rig on ME most likely, since it
seems to run just fine...


"DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
>John,
>
>If I may.since I've also thought about this, I think LaMont is running Paris
>on Win XP since he would have to in order to get the URS and Waves plugins
>working. As far as a PC goes, having as much CPU horsepower as possible
>would be good though I hear the URS plugs are pretty efficient.
>
>I've got 3 xd EDS cards on loan here and now that the dust is settling,
I'm
>going to be building an experimental rig using a Gigabyte GA-K8nS Ultra
939
>mobo and a dualcore AMD CPU, but there have been good reports of using this
>mobo with the AMD 64 3500+ CPU. that might be plenty of horsepower for what
>you want to do.
>
>Happy Thanksgiving,
>
>DJ
>
>"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote in message
>news:4565f647$1@linux...
>>
>> Lamont,
>>
>> You mentioned in the Pulsar thread:
>>
>> "My XP /Paris rig is so stable, and with the URS and Waves SSL plugins..
>> It's
>> mixing dream for ITBB mixing.."
>>
>> Would you mind posting your setup, computerswise especially, but
>> also Paris hardware. I really don;t want to jump through as many
>> hoops as the multi computer thing. I am getting fantastic
>> results as is with paris, especially using lots of analog inserts
>> and external verbs. I just want to increase my horsepower and go
>> to the SSL plugs etc. SOunds like you are doing what I want to do.
>>
>> I use 3 mecs with 8 analog inserts per mec (8in/8out cards) with a huge
>rack
>> of outboard. A couple of ADAT cards for returning the verbs like the
>KSP8,
>> spdif i/os for verbs on various cards, and IF2's for multing via analog
>> verb sends across submixes etc.
>>
>> I have one UAD card and usually get a sound I like and just render it.
>>
>> I want to go to a 4 mec setup, with more plugin horsepower. Like I said,
>> I love my setup, and it brings me all the work I can handle.
>>
>> My inquiring mind wants to know... :) 'preciate it...
>>
>
>
Re: For Lamont :) [message #76389 is a reply to message #76385] Thu, 23 November 2006 16:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DJ is currently offline  DJ   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1124
Registered: July 2005
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John,

So you have a tracking rig and a separate mix rig?
I have thought about doing that myself.

The mix rig would need to be on win XP since the URS plugs don't work on Win
ME. I doubt if the Waves SSL plugs will either. XP on the mix rig shoudn't
be too much grief if you only need 1 x ADAT interface per MEC and don't need
to interface with ADAT machines.

;o)

Deej

"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote in message
news:45661c2e$1@linux...
>
> Thanks, DJ--keep me posted. I bought the same motherboard and am looking
> to build an XP rig to handle the above. The SSL plugs look appealing,
assuming
> they are close...:) I'll keep my tracking rig on ME most likely, since it
> seems to run just fine...
>
>
> "DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
> >John,
> >
> >If I may.since I've also thought about this, I think LaMont is running
Paris
> >on Win XP since he would have to in order to get the URS and Waves
plugins
> >working. As far as a PC goes, having as much CPU horsepower as possible
> >would be good though I hear the URS plugs are pretty efficient.
> >
> >I've got 3 xd EDS cards on loan here and now that the dust is settling,
> I'm
> >going to be building an experimental rig using a Gigabyte GA-K8nS Ultra
> 939
> >mobo and a dualcore AMD CPU, but there have been good reports of using
this
> >mobo with the AMD 64 3500+ CPU. that might be plenty of horsepower for
what
> >you want to do.
> >
> >Happy Thanksgiving,
> >
> >DJ
> >
> >"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote in message
> >news:4565f647$1@linux...
> >>
> >> Lamont,
> >>
> >> You mentioned in the Pulsar thread:
> >>
> >> "My XP /Paris rig is so stable, and with the URS and Waves SSL
plugins..
> >> It's
> >> mixing dream for ITBB mixing.."
> >>
> >> Would you mind posting your setup, computerswise especially, but
> >> also Paris hardware. I really don;t want to jump through as many
> >> hoops as the multi computer thing. I am getting fantastic
> >> results as is with paris, especially using lots of analog inserts
> >> and external verbs. I just want to increase my horsepower and go
> >> to the SSL plugs etc. SOunds like you are doing what I want to do.
> >>
> >> I use 3 mecs with 8 analog inserts per mec (8in/8out cards) with a huge
> >rack
> >> of outboard. A couple of ADAT cards for returning the verbs like the
> >KSP8,
> >> spdif i/os for verbs on various cards, and IF2's for multing via analog
> >> verb sends across submixes etc.
> >>
> >> I have one UAD card and usually get a sound I like and just render it.
> >>
> >> I want to go to a 4 mec setup, with more plugin horsepower. Like I
said,
> >> I love my setup, and it brings me all the work I can handle.
> >>
> >> My inquiring mind wants to know... :) 'preciate it...
> >>
> >
> >
>
Re: For Lamont :) [message #76392 is a reply to message #76389] Thu, 23 November 2006 17:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John Macy is currently offline  John Macy
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Yeah, my tracking rig is more portable--2 mecs and 3-4 8 in cards depending
on what I need... It's ME on a P4 computer.

My mix rig is still running ME on a 1.4 AMD--time to notch that one up a
bit...

The parallel compression thing is the only thing I lack, but I still make
it work OK. My mastering guy in Nashville still swears Paris is the deepest,
widest, most analogue system out there...:)


"DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
>John,
>
>So you have a tracking rig and a separate mix rig?
>I have thought about doing that myself.
>
>The mix rig would need to be on win XP since the URS plugs don't work on
Win
>ME. I doubt if the Waves SSL plugs will either. XP on the mix rig shoudn't
>be too much grief if you only need 1 x ADAT interface per MEC and don't
need
>to interface with ADAT machines.
>
>;o)
>
>Deej
>
>"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote in message
>news:45661c2e$1@linux...
>>
>> Thanks, DJ--keep me posted. I bought the same motherboard and am looking
>> to build an XP rig to handle the above. The SSL plugs look appealing,
>assuming
>> they are close...:) I'll keep my tracking rig on ME most likely, since
it
>> seems to run just fine...
>>
>>
>> "DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
>> >John,
>> >
>> >If I may.since I've also thought about this, I think LaMont is running
>Paris
>> >on Win XP since he would have to in order to get the URS and Waves
>plugins
>> >working. As far as a PC goes, having as much CPU horsepower as possible
>> >would be good though I hear the URS plugs are pretty efficient.
>> >
>> >I've got 3 xd EDS cards on loan here and now that the dust is settling,
>> I'm
>> >going to be building an experimental rig using a Gigabyte GA-K8nS Ultra
>> 939
>> >mobo and a dualcore AMD CPU, but there have been good reports of using
>this
>> >mobo with the AMD 64 3500+ CPU. that might be plenty of horsepower for
>what
>> >you want to do.
>> >
>> >Happy Thanksgiving,
>> >
>> >DJ
>> >
>> >"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote in message
>> >news:4565f647$1@linux...
>> >>
>> >> Lamont,
>> >>
>> >> You mentioned in the Pulsar thread:
>> >>
>> >> "My XP /Paris rig is so stable, and with the URS and Waves SSL
>plugins..
>> >> It's
>> >> mixing dream for ITBB mixing.."
>> >>
>> >> Would you mind posting your setup, computerswise especially, but
>> >> also Paris hardware. I really don;t want to jump through as many
>> >> hoops as the multi computer thing. I am getting fantastic
>> >> results as is with paris, especially using lots of analog inserts
>> >> and external verbs. I just want to increase my horsepower and go
>> >> to the SSL plugs etc. SOunds like you are doing what I want to do.
>> >>
>> >> I use 3 mecs with 8 analog inserts per mec (8in/8out cards) with a
huge
>> >rack
>> >> of outboard. A couple of ADAT cards for returning the verbs like the
>> >KSP8,
>> >> spdif i/os for verbs on various cards, and IF2's for multing via analog
>> >> verb sends across submixes etc.
>> >>
>> >> I have one UAD card and usually get a sound I like and just render
it.
>> >>
>> >> I want to go to a 4 mec setup, with more plugin horsepower. Like I
>said,
>> >> I love my setup, and it brings me all the work I can handle.
>> >>
>> >> My inquiring mind wants to know... :) 'preciate it...
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
KSP8 routing...How John??? (was re: Lamont) [message #76396 is a reply to message #76379] Thu, 23 November 2006 19:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rod Lincoln is currently offline  Rod Lincoln
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Registered: September 2005
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Hey John, I'd be interested in a detailed description of how you use the IF2's
to get verb sends to the KSP8 across submixes
and get it back in to Paris. Do you use adat spdif, analog, or all 3??
Rod
"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote:
>
>Lamont,
>
>You mentioned in the Pulsar thread:
>
>"My XP /Paris rig is so stable, and with the URS and Waves SSL plugins..
>It's
>mixing dream for ITBB mixing.."
>
>Would you mind posting your setup, computerswise especially, but
>also Paris hardware. I really don;t want to jump through as many
>hoops as the multi computer thing. I am getting fantastic
>results as is with paris, especially using lots of analog inserts
>and external verbs. I just want to increase my horsepower and go
>to the SSL plugs etc. SOunds like you are doing what I want to do.
>
>I use 3 mecs with 8 analog inserts per mec (8in/8out cards) with a huge
rack
>of outboard. A couple of ADAT cards for returning the verbs like the KSP8,
>spdif i/os for verbs on various cards, and IF2's for multing via analog

>verb sends across submixes etc.
>
>I have one UAD card and usually get a sound I like and just render it.
>
>I want to go to a 4 mec setup, with more plugin horsepower. Like I said,
>I love my setup, and it brings me all the work I can handle.
>
>My inquiring mind wants to know... :) 'preciate it...
>
KSP8 routing...How John??? (was re: Lamont) [message #76397 is a reply to message #76396] Thu, 23 November 2006 21:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John Macy is currently offline  John Macy
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I generally assign auxs 1&2 to the IF2s on all cards, then mult the outputs
of the IF2s analog in the patch bay (via mults wired into the bays), and
send to the analog ins of the first two mono in/stereo out engines on the
KSP. The other two engines are driven from sends on the individual mecs
via 8 out cards. The the 4 stereo returns are brought back in on an ADAT
card. So there are a couple of global room type effects that can be fed
from all 48 tracks, with a plate on the vocal card and something else where
needed.

The drum card has a TCM3000 via SPDIF inserts, and a PMC80 on another card
the same way. Along with a couple of Paris verbs here and there...

Does that make sense?? :)



"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@kc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>Hey John, I'd be interested in a detailed description of how you use the
IF2's
>to get verb sends to the KSP8 across submixes
>and get it back in to Paris. Do you use adat spdif, analog, or all 3??
>Rod
>"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote:
>>
>>Lamont,
>>
>>You mentioned in the Pulsar thread:
>>
>>"My XP /Paris rig is so stable, and with the URS and Waves SSL plugins..
>>It's
>>mixing dream for ITBB mixing.."
>>
>>Would you mind posting your setup, computerswise especially, but
>>also Paris hardware. I really don;t want to jump through as many
>>hoops as the multi computer thing. I am getting fantastic
>>results as is with paris, especially using lots of analog inserts
>>and external verbs. I just want to increase my horsepower and go
>>to the SSL plugs etc. SOunds like you are doing what I want to do.
>>
>>I use 3 mecs with 8 analog inserts per mec (8in/8out cards) with a huge
>rack
>>of outboard. A couple of ADAT cards for returning the verbs like the KSP8,
>>spdif i/os for verbs on various cards, and IF2's for multing via analog
>
>>verb sends across submixes etc.
>>
>>I have one UAD card and usually get a sound I like and just render it.
>>
>>I want to go to a 4 mec setup, with more plugin horsepower. Like I said,
>>I love my setup, and it brings me all the work I can handle.
>>
>>My inquiring mind wants to know... :) 'preciate it...
>>
>
KSP8 routing...How John??? (was re: Lamont) [message #76398 is a reply to message #76397] Thu, 23 November 2006 21:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rod Lincoln is currently offline  Rod Lincoln
Messages: 883
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Totally...thanks!
Rod
"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote:
>
>I generally assign auxs 1&2 to the IF2s on all cards, then mult the outputs
>of the IF2s analog in the patch bay (via mults wired into the bays), and
>send to the analog ins of the first two mono in/stereo out engines on the
>KSP. The other two engines are driven from sends on the individual mecs
>via 8 out cards. The the 4 stereo returns are brought back in on an ADAT
>card. So there are a couple of global room type effects that can be fed
>from all 48 tracks, with a plate on the vocal card and something else where
>needed.
>
>The drum card has a TCM3000 via SPDIF inserts, and a PMC80 on another card
>the same way. Along with a couple of Paris verbs here and there...
>
>Does that make sense?? :)
>
>
>
>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>Hey John, I'd be interested in a detailed description of how you use the
>IF2's
>>to get verb sends to the KSP8 across submixes
>>and get it back in to Paris. Do you use adat spdif, analog, or all 3??
>>Rod
>>"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Lamont,
>>>
>>>You mentioned in the Pulsar thread:
>>>
>>>"My XP /Paris rig is so stable, and with the URS and Waves SSL plugins..
>>>It's
>>>mixing dream for ITBB mixing.."
>>>
>>>Would you mind posting your setup, computerswise especially, but
>>>also Paris hardware. I really don;t want to jump through as many
>>>hoops as the multi computer thing. I am getting fantastic
>>>results as is with paris, especially using lots of analog inserts
>>>and external verbs. I just want to increase my horsepower and go
>>>to the SSL plugs etc. SOunds like you are doing what I want to do.
>>>
>>>I use 3 mecs with 8 analog inserts per mec (8in/8out cards) with a huge
>>rack
>>>of outboard. A couple of ADAT cards for returning the verbs like the
KSP8,
>>>spdif i/os for verbs on various cards, and IF2's for multing via analog
>>
>>>verb sends across submixes etc.
>>>
>>>I have one UAD card and usually get a sound I like and just render it.
>>>
>>>I want to go to a 4 mec setup, with more plugin horsepower. Like I said,
>>>I love my setup, and it brings me all the work I can handle.
>>>
>>>My inquiring mind wants to know... :) 'preciate it...
>>>
>>
>
Re: KSP8 routing...How John??? (was re: Lamont) [message #76400 is a reply to message #76397] Thu, 23 November 2006 20:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DJ is currently offline  DJ   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1124
Registered: July 2005
Senior Member
John,

Here's another trick to think about. I've got a Lexi PCM 91, a Quantec
Yardstick, a Sony DPS-V77 and a Roland R-880. All of these units have AES
I/O (well.the R-880 is using a s/pdif>AES format converter) and it is
possible to route these through an RME ADI4 DD unit which converts AES to
ADAT and interptch them across as many MECS as you want, as long as each MEC
has an ADAT module so you can create 4 separate auxes, each dedicated to the
repective outboard processor, across as many submixes as you have MECs with
ADAT modules. I guess this is similar to what you are doing with the KSP-8,
right?
"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote in message
news:45667023$1@linux...
>
> I generally assign auxs 1&2 to the IF2s on all cards, then mult the
outputs
> of the IF2s analog in the patch bay (via mults wired into the bays), and
> send to the analog ins of the first two mono in/stereo out engines on the
> KSP. The other two engines are driven from sends on the individual mecs
> via 8 out cards. The the 4 stereo returns are brought back in on an ADAT
> card. So there are a couple of global room type effects that can be fed
> from all 48 tracks, with a plate on the vocal card and something else
where
> needed.
>
> The drum card has a TCM3000 via SPDIF inserts, and a PMC80 on another card
> the same way. Along with a couple of Paris verbs here and there...
>
> Does that make sense?? :)
>
>
>
> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@kc.rr.com> wrote:
> >
> >Hey John, I'd be interested in a detailed description of how you use the
> IF2's
> >to get verb sends to the KSP8 across submixes
> >and get it back in to Paris. Do you use adat spdif, analog, or all 3??
> >Rod
> >"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>Lamont,
> >>
> >>You mentioned in the Pulsar thread:
> >>
> >>"My XP /Paris rig is so stable, and with the URS and Waves SSL plugins..
> >>It's
> >>mixing dream for ITBB mixing.."
> >>
> >>Would you mind posting your setup, computerswise especially, but
> >>also Paris hardware. I really don;t want to jump through as many
> >>hoops as the multi computer thing. I am getting fantastic
> >>results as is with paris, especially using lots of analog inserts
> >>and external verbs. I just want to increase my horsepower and go
> >>to the SSL plugs etc. SOunds like you are doing what I want to do.
> >>
> >>I use 3 mecs with 8 analog inserts per mec (8in/8out cards) with a huge
> >rack
> >>of outboard. A couple of ADAT cards for returning the verbs like the
KSP8,
> >>spdif i/os for verbs on various cards, and IF2's for multing via analog
> >
> >>verb sends across submixes etc.
> >>
> >>I have one UAD card and usually get a sound I like and just render it.
> >>
> >>I want to go to a 4 mec setup, with more plugin horsepower. Like I
said,
> >>I love my setup, and it brings me all the work I can handle.
> >>
> >>My inquiring mind wants to know... :) 'preciate it...
> >>
> >
>
Re: KSP8 routing...How John??? (was re: Lamont) [message #76401 is a reply to message #76400] Thu, 23 November 2006 21:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John Macy is currently offline  John Macy
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Are you running the RME in the same computer?

Basically sounds like we are doing the same thing, mine is just more old
school (like me)...:)



"DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
>John,
>
>Here's another trick to think about. I've got a Lexi PCM 91, a Quantec
>Yardstick, a Sony DPS-V77 and a Roland R-880. All of these units have AES
>I/O (well.the R-880 is using a s/pdif>AES format converter) and it is
>possible to route these through an RME ADI4 DD unit which converts AES to
>ADAT and interptch them across as many MECS as you want, as long as each
MEC
>has an ADAT module so you can create 4 separate auxes, each dedicated to
the
>repective outboard processor, across as many submixes as you have MECs
with
>ADAT modules. I guess this is similar to what you are doing with the KSP-8,
>right?
>"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote in message
>news:45667023$1@linux...
>>
>> I generally assign auxs 1&2 to the IF2s on all cards, then mult the
>outputs
>> of the IF2s analog in the patch bay (via mults wired into the bays), and
>> send to the analog ins of the first two mono in/stereo out engines on
the
>> KSP. The other two engines are driven from sends on the individual mecs
>> via 8 out cards. The the 4 stereo returns are brought back in on an ADAT
>> card. So there are a couple of global room type effects that can be fed
>> from all 48 tracks, with a plate on the vocal card and something else
>where
>> needed.
>>
>> The drum card has a TCM3000 via SPDIF inserts, and a PMC80 on another
card
>> the same way. Along with a couple of Paris verbs here and there...
>>
>> Does that make sense?? :)
>>
>>
>>
>> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@kc.rr.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >Hey John, I'd be interested in a detailed description of how you use
the
>> IF2's
>> >to get verb sends to the KSP8 across submixes
>> >and get it back in to Paris. Do you use adat spdif, analog, or all 3??
>> >Rod
>> >"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>Lamont,
>> >>
>> >>You mentioned in the Pulsar thread:
>> >>
>> >>"My XP /Paris rig is so stable, and with the URS and Waves SSL plugins..
>> >>It's
>> >>mixing dream for ITBB mixing.."
>> >>
>> >>Would you mind posting your setup, computerswise especially, but
>> >>also Paris hardware. I really don;t want to jump through as many
>> >>hoops as the multi computer thing. I am getting fantastic
>> >>results as is with paris, especially using lots of analog inserts
>> >>and external verbs. I just want to increase my horsepower and go
>> >>to the SSL plugs etc. SOunds like you are doing what I want to do.
>> >>
>> >>I use 3 mecs with 8 analog inserts per mec (8in/8out cards) with a huge
>> >rack
>> >>of outboard. A couple of ADAT cards for returning the verbs like the
>KSP8,
>> >>spdif i/os for verbs on various cards, and IF2's for multing via analog
>> >
>> >>verb sends across submixes etc.
>> >>
>> >>I have one UAD card and usually get a sound I like and just render it.
>> >>
>> >>I want to go to a 4 mec setup, with more plugin horsepower. Like I
>said,
>> >>I love my setup, and it brings me all the work I can handle.
>> >>
>> >>My inquiring mind wants to know... :) 'preciate it...
>> >>
>> >
>>
>
>
Re: KSP8 routing...How John??? (was re: Lamont) [message #76402 is a reply to message #76401] Thu, 23 November 2006 20:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The RME is an external standalone AES>ADAT format converter that functions
bidirectionally. It doesn't interface with the computer other than via
ADAT.It clocks either to incoming ADAT or AES from the source or via BNC WC.
Very handy. Got mine from Morgan. Without it I would die.

;o)

"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote in message
news:45667748$1@linux...
>
> Are you running the RME in the same computer?
>
> Basically sounds like we are doing the same thing, mine is just more old
> school (like me)...:)
>
>
>
> "DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
> >John,
> >
> >Here's another trick to think about. I've got a Lexi PCM 91, a Quantec
> >Yardstick, a Sony DPS-V77 and a Roland R-880. All of these units have AES
> >I/O (well.the R-880 is using a s/pdif>AES format converter) and it is
> >possible to route these through an RME ADI4 DD unit which converts AES to
> >ADAT and interptch them across as many MECS as you want, as long as each
> MEC
> >has an ADAT module so you can create 4 separate auxes, each dedicated to
> the
> >repective outboard processor, across as many submixes as you have MECs
> with
> >ADAT modules. I guess this is similar to what you are doing with the
KSP-8,
> >right?
> >"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote in message
> >news:45667023$1@linux...
> >>
> >> I generally assign auxs 1&2 to the IF2s on all cards, then mult the
> >outputs
> >> of the IF2s analog in the patch bay (via mults wired into the bays),
and
> >> send to the analog ins of the first two mono in/stereo out engines on
> the
> >> KSP. The other two engines are driven from sends on the individual
mecs
> >> via 8 out cards. The the 4 stereo returns are brought back in on an
ADAT
> >> card. So there are a couple of global room type effects that can be
fed
> >> from all 48 tracks, with a plate on the vocal card and something else
> >where
> >> needed.
> >>
> >> The drum card has a TCM3000 via SPDIF inserts, and a PMC80 on another
> card
> >> the same way. Along with a couple of Paris verbs here and there...
> >>
> >> Does that make sense?? :)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@kc.rr.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >Hey John, I'd be interested in a detailed description of how you use
> the
> >> IF2's
> >> >to get verb sends to the KSP8 across submixes
> >> >and get it back in to Paris. Do you use adat spdif, analog, or all 3??
> >> >Rod
> >> >"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>Lamont,
> >> >>
> >> >>You mentioned in the Pulsar thread:
> >> >>
> >> >>"My XP /Paris rig is so stable, and with the URS and Waves SSL
plugins..
> >> >>It's
> >> >>mixing dream for ITBB mixing.."
> >> >>
> >> >>Would you mind posting your setup, computerswise especially, but
> >> >>also Paris hardware. I really don;t want to jump through as many
> >> >>hoops as the multi computer thing. I am getting fantastic
> >> >>results as is with paris, especially using lots of analog inserts
> >> >>and external verbs. I just want to increase my horsepower and go
> >> >>to the SSL plugs etc. SOunds like you are doing what I want to do.
> >> >>
> >> >>I use 3 mecs with 8 analog inserts per mec (8in/8out cards) with a
huge
> >> >rack
> >> >>of outboard. A couple of ADAT cards for returning the verbs like the
> >KSP8,
> >> >>spdif i/os for verbs on various cards, and IF2's for multing via
analog
> >> >
> >> >>verb sends across submixes etc.
> >> >>
> >> >>I have one UAD card and usually get a sound I like and just render
it.
> >> >>
> >> >>I want to go to a 4 mec setup, with more plugin horsepower. Like I
> >said,
> >> >>I love my setup, and it brings me all the work I can handle.
> >> >>
> >> >>My inquiring mind wants to know... :) 'preciate it...
> >> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>
Re: KSP8 routing...How John??? (was re: Lamont) [message #76403 is a reply to message #76402] Thu, 23 November 2006 21:49 Go to previous message
John Macy is currently offline  John Macy
Messages: 242
Registered: April 2006
Senior Member
I wished ya hadn't a showed me that... :)

"DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
>The RME is an external standalone AES>ADAT format converter that functions
>bidirectionally. It doesn't interface with the computer other than via
>ADAT.It clocks either to incoming ADAT or AES from the source or via BNC
WC.
>Very handy. Got mine from Morgan. Without it I would die.
>
>;o)
>
>"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote in message
>news:45667748$1@linux...
>>
>> Are you running the RME in the same computer?
>>
>> Basically sounds like we are doing the same thing, mine is just more old
>> school (like me)...:)
>>
>>
>>
>> "DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
>> >John,
>> >
>> >Here's another trick to think about. I've got a Lexi PCM 91, a Quantec
>> >Yardstick, a Sony DPS-V77 and a Roland R-880. All of these units have
AES
>> >I/O (well.the R-880 is using a s/pdif>AES format converter) and it is
>> >possible to route these through an RME ADI4 DD unit which converts AES
to
>> >ADAT and interptch them across as many MECS as you want, as long as each
>> MEC
>> >has an ADAT module so you can create 4 separate auxes, each dedicated
to
>> the
>> >repective outboard processor, across as many submixes as you have MECs
>> with
>> >ADAT modules. I guess this is similar to what you are doing with the
>KSP-8,
>> >right?
>> >"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote in message
>> >news:45667023$1@linux...
>> >>
>> >> I generally assign auxs 1&2 to the IF2s on all cards, then mult the
>> >outputs
>> >> of the IF2s analog in the patch bay (via mults wired into the bays),
>and
>> >> send to the analog ins of the first two mono in/stereo out engines
on
>> the
>> >> KSP. The other two engines are driven from sends on the individual
>mecs
>> >> via 8 out cards. The the 4 stereo returns are brought back in on an
>ADAT
>> >> card. So there are a couple of global room type effects that can be
>fed
>> >> from all 48 tracks, with a plate on the vocal card and something else
>> >where
>> >> needed.
>> >>
>> >> The drum card has a TCM3000 via SPDIF inserts, and a PMC80 on another
>> card
>> >> the same way. Along with a couple of Paris verbs here and there...
>> >>
>> >> Does that make sense?? :)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@kc.rr.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >Hey John, I'd be interested in a detailed description of how you use
>> the
>> >> IF2's
>> >> >to get verb sends to the KSP8 across submixes
>> >> >and get it back in to Paris. Do you use adat spdif, analog, or all
3??
>> >> >Rod
>> >> >"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Lamont,
>> >> >>
>> >> >>You mentioned in the Pulsar thread:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>"My XP /Paris rig is so stable, and with the URS and Waves SSL
>plugins..
>> >> >>It's
>> >> >>mixing dream for ITBB mixing.."
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Would you mind posting your setup, computerswise especially, but
>> >> >>also Paris hardware. I really don;t want to jump through as many
>> >> >>hoops as the multi computer thing. I am getting fantastic
>> >> >>results as is with paris, especially using lots of analog inserts
>> >> >>and external verbs. I just want to increase my horsepower and go
>> >> >>to the SSL plugs etc. SOunds like you are doing what I want to do.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>I use 3 mecs with 8 analog inserts per mec (8in/8out cards) with
a
>huge
>> >> >rack
>> >> >>of outboard. A couple of ADAT cards for returning the verbs like
the
>> >KSP8,
>> >> >>spdif i/os for verbs on various cards, and IF2's for multing via
>analog
>> >> >
>> >> >>verb sends across submixes etc.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>I have one UAD card and usually get a sound I like and just render
>it.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>I want to go to a 4 mec setup, with more plugin horsepower. Like
I
>> >said,
>> >> >>I love my setup, and it brings me all the work I can handle.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>My inquiring mind wants to know... :) 'preciate it...
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
Re: KSP8 routing...How John??? (was re: Lamont) [message #76406 is a reply to message #76403] Thu, 23 November 2006 21:24 Go to previous message
DJ is currently offline  DJ   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1124
Registered: July 2005
Senior Member
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/may05/articles/rmead.htm

<evil grin>

"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote in message
news:456679e8$1@linux...
>
> I wished ya hadn't a showed me that... :)
>
> "DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
> >The RME is an external standalone AES>ADAT format converter that
functions
> >bidirectionally. It doesn't interface with the computer other than via
> >ADAT.It clocks either to incoming ADAT or AES from the source or via BNC
> WC.
> >Very handy. Got mine from Morgan. Without it I would die.
> >
> >;o)
> >
> >"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote in message
> >news:45667748$1@linux...
> >>
> >> Are you running the RME in the same computer?
> >>
> >> Basically sounds like we are doing the same thing, mine is just more
old
> >> school (like me)...:)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
> >> >John,
> >> >
> >> >Here's another trick to think about. I've got a Lexi PCM 91, a Quantec
> >> >Yardstick, a Sony DPS-V77 and a Roland R-880. All of these units have
> AES
> >> >I/O (well.the R-880 is using a s/pdif>AES format converter) and it is
> >> >possible to route these through an RME ADI4 DD unit which converts AES
> to
> >> >ADAT and interptch them across as many MECS as you want, as long as
each
> >> MEC
> >> >has an ADAT module so you can create 4 separate auxes, each dedicated
> to
> >> the
> >> >repective outboard processor, across as many submixes as you have
MECs
> >> with
> >> >ADAT modules. I guess this is similar to what you are doing with the
> >KSP-8,
> >> >right?
> >> >"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote in message
> >> >news:45667023$1@linux...
> >> >>
> >> >> I generally assign auxs 1&2 to the IF2s on all cards, then mult the
> >> >outputs
> >> >> of the IF2s analog in the patch bay (via mults wired into the bays),
> >and
> >> >> send to the analog ins of the first two mono in/stereo out engines
> on
> >> the
> >> >> KSP. The other two engines are driven from sends on the individual
> >mecs
> >> >> via 8 out cards. The the 4 stereo returns are brought back in on an
> >ADAT
> >> >> card. So there are a couple of global room type effects that can be
> >fed
> >> >> from all 48 tracks, with a plate on the vocal card and something
else
> >> >where
> >> >> needed.
> >> >>
> >> >> The drum card has a TCM3000 via SPDIF inserts, and a PMC80 on
another
> >> card
> >> >> the same way. Along with a couple of Paris verbs here and there...
> >> >>
> >> >> Does that make sense?? :)
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@kc.rr.com> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Hey John, I'd be interested in a detailed description of how you
use
> >> the
> >> >> IF2's
> >> >> >to get verb sends to the KSP8 across submixes
> >> >> >and get it back in to Paris. Do you use adat spdif, analog, or all
> 3??
> >> >> >Rod
> >> >> >"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>Lamont,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>You mentioned in the Pulsar thread:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>"My XP /Paris rig is so stable, and with the URS and Waves SSL
> >plugins..
> >> >> >>It's
> >> >> >>mixing dream for ITBB mixing.."
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>Would you mind posting your setup, computerswise especially, but
> >> >> >>also Paris hardware. I really don;t want to jump through as many
> >> >> >>hoops as the multi computer thing. I am getting fantastic
> >> >> >>results as is with paris, especially using lots of analog inserts
> >> >> >>and external verbs. I just want to increase my horsepower and go
> >> >> >>to the SSL plugs etc. SOunds like you are doing what I want to
do.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>I use 3 mecs with 8 analog inserts per mec (8in/8out cards) with
> a
> >huge
> >> >> >rack
> >> >> >>of outboard. A couple of ADAT cards for returning the verbs like
> the
> >> >KSP8,
> >> >> >>spdif i/os for verbs on various cards, and IF2's for multing via
> >analog
> >> >> >
> >> >> >>verb sends across submixes etc.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>I have one UAD card and usually get a sound I like and just render
> >it.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>I want to go to a 4 mec setup, with more plugin horsepower. Like
> I
> >> >said,
> >> >> >>I love my setup, and it brings me all the work I can handle.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>My inquiring mind wants to know... :) 'preciate it...
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>
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