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| Re: Compression test [message #69337 is a reply to message #69336] |
Thu, 15 June 2006 08:10   |
Aaron Allen
Messages: 1988
Registered: May 2008
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Yes, I mean that it needs more wood/body sound.. a bigger and/or deeper
shell might get you there, perhaps mic techinique/type parameters... verb is
not going to help with this sound issue. Tuning the pitch might also help,
but I've found mostly it hurts other areas too much. You may also be able to
stack samples? Dunno, don't have a V kit here. If you do stack, make sure
that the sample 'hits' at the exact same time or risk phase holes.
The best way to think of it is that what you start out with should be as
close as possible w/o any processing to what you want for an end result.
AA
"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:44913e22$1@linux...
>
> See, that's where your refined ear can hear that through the verbs and
> compression.
> I'll redo them and go for a smaller kick and bigger snare. By bigger you
> don't mean verb right? You mean the physical size.
>
> "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>The tones aren't close enough for a compressor to react the same way. The
>
>>snare is too small and the kick is too big on the low end.
>>No compressor is going to fix that.
>>
>>AA
>>
>>
>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:4490ac7d$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Others might suggest a better kick/snare in the TD20 but this is the
>>> Peart
>>> one for starters.
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/gtacu
>>> http://tinyurl.com/ef2fj
>>>
>>> Lets see if anyone can get close to the compression, air and slapback
> that
>>> this has going on. Of course I don't expect miracles but have at it.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> John
>>
>>
>>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>>
>>
>
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| Re: Compression test [message #69339 is a reply to message #69337] |
Thu, 15 June 2006 09:31 |
John [1]
Messages: 2229
Registered: September 2005
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I agree, so why not stop by the house and show me how. hehe
"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>Yes, I mean that it needs more wood/body sound.. a bigger and/or deeper
>shell might get you there, perhaps mic techinique/type parameters... verb
is
>not going to help with this sound issue. Tuning the pitch might also help,
>but I've found mostly it hurts other areas too much. You may also be able
to
>stack samples? Dunno, don't have a V kit here. If you do stack, make sure
>that the sample 'hits' at the exact same time or risk phase holes.
>
>The best way to think of it is that what you start out with should be as
>close as possible w/o any processing to what you want for an end result.
>
>AA
>
>
>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:44913e22$1@linux...
>>
>> See, that's where your refined ear can hear that through the verbs and
>> compression.
>> I'll redo them and go for a smaller kick and bigger snare. By bigger
you
>> don't mean verb right? You mean the physical size.
>>
>> "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>The tones aren't close enough for a compressor to react the same way.
The
>>
>>>snare is too small and the kick is too big on the low end.
>>>No compressor is going to fix that.
>>>
>>>AA
>>>
>>>
>>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:4490ac7d$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Others might suggest a better kick/snare in the TD20 but this is the
>>>> Peart
>>>> one for starters.
>>>>
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/gtacu
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/ef2fj
>>>>
>>>> Lets see if anyone can get close to the compression, air and slapback
>> that
>>>> this has going on. Of course I don't expect miracles but have at it.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> John
>>>
>>>
>>>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
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| Re: Compression test [message #69350 is a reply to message #69339] |
Thu, 15 June 2006 12:30 |
pauln[2]
Messages: 28
Registered: September 2007
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Junior Member |
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A few API pre's would beef them up a bit for sure.
:)
"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
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>I agree, so why not stop by the house and show me how. hehe
>
>"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>Yes, I mean that it needs more wood/body sound.. a bigger and/or deeper
>
>>shell might get you there, perhaps mic techinique/type parameters... verb
>is
>>not going to help with this sound issue. Tuning the pitch might also help,
>
>>but I've found mostly it hurts other areas too much. You may also be able
>to
>>stack samples? Dunno, don't have a V kit here. If you do stack, make sure
>
>>that the sample 'hits' at the exact same time or risk phase holes.
>>
>>The best way to think of it is that what you start out with should be as
>
>>close as possible w/o any processing to what you want for an end result.
>>
>>AA
>>
>>
>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:44913e22$1@linux...
>>>
>>> See, that's where your refined ear can hear that through the verbs and
>
>>> compression.
>>> I'll redo them and go for a smaller kick and bigger snare. By bigger
>you
>>> don't mean verb right? You mean the physical size.
>>>
>>> "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>>The tones aren't close enough for a compressor to react the same way.
>The
>>>
>>>>snare is too small and the kick is too big on the low end.
>>>>No compressor is going to fix that.
>>>>
>>>>AA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:4490ac7d$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> Others might suggest a better kick/snare in the TD20 but this is the
>
>>>>> Peart
>>>>> one for starters.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/gtacu
>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/ef2fj
>>>>>
>>>>> Lets see if anyone can get close to the compression, air and slapback
>>> that
>>>>> this has going on. Of course I don't expect miracles but have at it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> John
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>>>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
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| Re: Compression test [message #69354 is a reply to message #69350] |
Thu, 15 June 2006 16:42 |
John [1]
Messages: 2229
Registered: September 2005
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If you need my address to send them, let me know. In the meantime, here's
the latest.
http://tinyurl.com/qrcam
You have a stereo pair, and kick,snare, hihat on separate wave files.
The comparison file is here: http://tinyurl.com/gtacu
Thanks,
John
"Paul" <pn@nospam.com> wrote:
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>A few API pre's would beef them up a bit for sure.
>:)
>
>
>"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>
>>I agree, so why not stop by the house and show me how. hehe
>>
>>"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>Yes, I mean that it needs more wood/body sound.. a bigger and/or deeper
>>
>>>shell might get you there, perhaps mic techinique/type parameters... verb
>>is
>>>not going to help with this sound issue. Tuning the pitch might also help,
>>
>>>but I've found mostly it hurts other areas too much. You may also be able
>>to
>>>stack samples? Dunno, don't have a V kit here. If you do stack, make sure
>>
>>>that the sample 'hits' at the exact same time or risk phase holes.
>>>
>>>The best way to think of it is that what you start out with should be
as
>>
>>>close as possible w/o any processing to what you want for an end result.
>>>
>>>AA
>>>
>>>
>>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:44913e22$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> See, that's where your refined ear can hear that through the verbs and
>>
>>>> compression.
>>>> I'll redo them and go for a smaller kick and bigger snare. By bigger
>>you
>>>> don't mean verb right? You mean the physical size.
>>>>
>>>> "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>>>The tones aren't close enough for a compressor to react the same way.
>>The
>>>>
>>>>>snare is too small and the kick is too big on the low end.
>>>>>No compressor is going to fix that.
>>>>>
>>>>>AA
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:4490ac7d$1@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Others might suggest a better kick/snare in the TD20 but this is the
>>
>>>>>> Peart
>>>>>> one for starters.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/gtacu
>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/ef2fj
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lets see if anyone can get close to the compression, air and slapback
>>>> that
>>>>>> this has going on. Of course I don't expect miracles but have at
it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> John
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>>>>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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| Re: Compression test [message #69366 is a reply to message #69354] |
Fri, 16 June 2006 07:06 |
Pauln[1]
Messages: 19
Registered: February 2007
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Hey I'm only 3 hours up the road from you. Come check it out some time. :)
"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>
>If you need my address to send them, let me know. In the meantime, here's
>the latest.
>
>http://tinyurl.com/qrcam
>
>You have a stereo pair, and kick,snare, hihat on separate wave files.
>
>The comparison file is here: http://tinyurl.com/gtacu
>Thanks,
>John
>
>"Paul" <pn@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>>A few API pre's would beef them up a bit for sure.
>>:)
>>
>>
>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>I agree, so why not stop by the house and show me how. hehe
>>>
>>>"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>>Yes, I mean that it needs more wood/body sound.. a bigger and/or deeper
>>>
>>>>shell might get you there, perhaps mic techinique/type parameters...
verb
>>>is
>>>>not going to help with this sound issue. Tuning the pitch might also
help,
>>>
>>>>but I've found mostly it hurts other areas too much. You may also be
able
>>>to
>>>>stack samples? Dunno, don't have a V kit here. If you do stack, make
sure
>>>
>>>>that the sample 'hits' at the exact same time or risk phase holes.
>>>>
>>>>The best way to think of it is that what you start out with should be
>as
>>>
>>>>close as possible w/o any processing to what you want for an end result.
>>>>
>>>>AA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:44913e22$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> See, that's where your refined ear can hear that through the verbs
and
>>>
>>>>> compression.
>>>>> I'll redo them and go for a smaller kick and bigger snare. By bigger
>>>you
>>>>> don't mean verb right? You mean the physical size.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>>>>The tones aren't close enough for a compressor to react the same way.
>>>The
>>>>>
>>>>>>snare is too small and the kick is too big on the low end.
>>>>>>No compressor is going to fix that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>AA
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:4490ac7d$1@linux...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Others might suggest a better kick/snare in the TD20 but this is
the
>>>
>>>>>>> Peart
>>>>>>> one for starters.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/gtacu
>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/ef2fj
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lets see if anyone can get close to the compression, air and slapback
>>>>> that
>>>>>>> this has going on. Of course I don't expect miracles but have at
>it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>>>>>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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