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General advice needed on creating drum tracks [message #101179] Wed, 19 November 2008 17:29 Go to next message
Richard Faylor is currently offline  Richard Faylor
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Registered: September 2005
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Using Paris 3.0 and an older MIDI program on an Apple G4 OS9.2, I’ve been
able to develop practical methods of writing music and lyrics and recording
in Paris, but the same can’t be said for creating drum accompaniment. I have
lots of great drum sounds and a good ear for jazz and latin drums, but I
lack either the right software or the right approach. Although I occasionally
create a drum loop that I like, I’ve yet to discover how best to adjust and
modify the loop to suit the various parts of the song—the verse, bridge,
chorus, etc.

Is there some good software out there—something like Acid Pro or Fruity Loops
or Ableton Live—that would work on my old 9.2 system? Or is there simply
a better way to use the gear that I have—a general approach or methodoloy
that hasn’t occurred to me yet?

Many thanks in advance for any tips or suggestions you may have.

Best wishes,
Richard Faylor
Re: General advice needed on creating drum tracks [message #101200 is a reply to message #101179] Thu, 20 November 2008 09:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jim Drago[2] is currently offline  Jim Drago[2]   
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Registered: December 2008
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"Richard Faylor" <RichardFaylor@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>Using Paris 3.0 and an older MIDI program on an Apple G4 OS9.2, I’ve been
>able to develop practical methods of writing music and lyrics and recording
>in Paris, but the same can’t be said for creating drum accompaniment. I
have
>lots of great drum sounds and a good ear for jazz and latin drums, but I
>lack either the right software or the right approach. Although I occasionally
>create a drum loop that I like, I’ve yet to discover how best to adjust
and
>modify the loop to suit the various parts of the song—the verse, bridge,
>chorus, etc.
>
>Is there some good software out there—something like Acid Pro or Fruity
Loops
>or Ableton Live—that would work on my old 9.2 system? Or is there simply
>a better way to use the gear that I have—a general approach or methodoloy
>that hasn’t occurred to me yet?
>
>Many thanks in advance for any tips or suggestions you may have.
>
>Best wishes,
>Richard Faylor
>
Re: General advice needed on creating drum tracks [message #101201 is a reply to message #101179] Thu, 20 November 2008 09:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jim Drago[2] is currently offline  Jim Drago[2]   
Messages: 102
Registered: December 2008
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Try Here

http://www.xlnaudio.com/products
http://www.submersiblemusic.com/TemplateHome.aspx?contentId= 11


"Richard Faylor" <RichardFaylor@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>Using Paris 3.0 and an older MIDI program on an Apple G4 OS9.2, I’ve been
>able to develop practical methods of writing music and lyrics and recording
>in Paris, but the same can’t be said for creating drum accompaniment. I
have
>lots of great drum sounds and a good ear for jazz and latin drums, but I
>lack either the right software or the right approach. Although I occasionally
>create a drum loop that I like, I’ve yet to discover how best to adjust
and
>modify the loop to suit the various parts of the song—the verse, bridge,
>chorus, etc.
>
>Is there some good software out there—something like Acid Pro or Fruity
Loops
>or Ableton Live—that would work on my old 9.2 system? Or is there simply
>a better way to use the gear that I have—a general approach or methodoloy
>that hasn’t occurred to me yet?
>
>Many thanks in advance for any tips or suggestions you may have.
>
>Best wishes,
>Richard Faylor
>
Re: General advice needed on creating drum tracks [message #101202 is a reply to message #101179] Thu, 20 November 2008 10:11 Go to previous message
kerryg is currently offline  kerryg   CANADA
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Heya Richard; concepts in drum programming have progressed by leaps and
bounds since OS9 was discontinued. After multi-layered samples (so
different velocities triggered different samples) proved insufficient
for realism, the hippest drum sequencing plugins moved to techniques
like "alternate strokes" where even two consecutive snares at the same
velocity trigger different R hand and L hand samples, and multiple
samples for each stroke so you can "mix" your drums for more "room" or
capture bleed from one in the mics of the others.

Drum programs also started to add sequencer components with included
performance libraries of MIDI patterns. Most of the stuff requires a
reasonably fast computer and OSX. Things that might interest you would
include:

FXPansion's BFD http://www.fxpansion.com/index.php?page=1

XLNAudio's "Addictive Drums" http://www.xlnaudio.com/

For percussion, Wizoo's "Latigo", a killer Latin percussion sequencer
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jun05/articles/wizoo.htm

It might be worth your while to consider booting into OSX to do your
drum programming in order to take advantage of the possibilities these
packages offer, many of them undreamed-of in the days of OS9 - and for
what a single drum sample CD used to cost.

- K


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