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How to sync 2 adat cards [message #105508] Tue, 10 August 2010 08:54 Go to next message
Philip is currently offline  Philip   UNITED STATES
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I have two adat mec cards. I have been using one to run 8 channels from an A\D preamp strip. So, I have the BNC cable coming out of the mec and into the 8 channel strip and I have the optical cable running from the the 8 channel strip to the adat card in the mec. This is how I have been tracking. Now, I would like to essentially add 8 more channels with the same method, but obviously, there is only one BNC cable coming off the mec. So, my question is how do I sync the second adat\8 channel pre strip unit?

Right now, if I plug in the optical cable, I do get audio, but there are pops and clicks that I am assuming are the result of nothing coming from the mec to sync the digital pre.

I know I have heard of folks running this kind of setup, so any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

-Phil
Re: How to sync 2 adat cards [message #105513 is a reply to message #105508] Tue, 10 August 2010 21:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kerryg is currently offline  kerryg   CANADA
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Hmm, you need to feed *some* sort of digital clock to that second 8-pre. Does it have any sort of digital *in* besides BNC/WC? Maybe SP/DIF or optical?

What unit is it, if you can give me a make and model we can see what we can figure out.


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Re: How to sync 2 adat cards [message #105519 is a reply to message #105513] Wed, 11 August 2010 09:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Philip is currently offline  Philip   UNITED STATES
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IT is a cheap Behringer ada8000. I see BNC on the back, along with the optical in and out.

Any advice? I also have a FP10 firepod with spdif and 1394 on the back of it, but haven't ever tried to use it with paris.

-Phil
Re: How to sync 2 adat cards [message #105522 is a reply to message #105519] Wed, 11 August 2010 14:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kerryg is currently offline  kerryg   CANADA
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Since you've got both optical output and input on the ADA8000, you can use the ADAT out signal from PARIS to sync it (you don't have to intend to send it any audio from PARIS to do this).

Connect the ADA8000 both ways to your PARIS ADAT card with two ADAT cables, and set the SYNC switch on the ADA8000 to ADAT - that should get rid of the clicks and pops, they'll be slaved to PARIS' clock via the ADAT signal. You can do that with both of the pres for that matter until you decide to get a dedicated word clock.


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Re: How to sync 2 adat cards [message #105525 is a reply to message #105522] Wed, 11 August 2010 17:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Philip is currently offline  Philip   UNITED STATES
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Thanks a ton. That is a huge help. Ever notice that you always need some kind of cord? No matter how many optical, XLR, TRS, BNC, bla bla bla I buy, I always need either one more or something totally new!

Can you recommend a word clock for the future??
Re: How to sync 2 adat cards [message #105526 is a reply to message #105525] Wed, 11 August 2010 17:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm pretty green at that stuff myself - I know HOSA made a word clock generator with three or so outputs that retailed for about $80 and I didn't hear any complaints about it, so if you're not so much looking to upgrade your clock but just want to have one sync source that isn't PARIS that would be a cheap way to go (you might have to shop used though, I think they're discontinued). Clocks go up in price from there - wayy up - so maybe some folks with more experience with the effects of superior clocks will chime in.

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Re: How to sync 2 adat cards [message #105570 is a reply to message #105526] Sun, 22 August 2010 22:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
bradleywreed88 is currently offline  bradleywreed88   UNITED STATES
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My 2 cents......

I would look for a used Lucid GENx6-96, or a GENx96

These clocks are really quite good, and you can get them used for around $300.00 for a GENx6-96 and $250 for a GENx96 (sometimes less). Since PARIS doesn't go any higher than 48K (which is plenty in my opinion), then you don't need to get one of the newer clocks that go up to 192 and beyond (192 is just plain nuts, unless you are doing video, and even then I think 24 bit 48K is super)

The GENx6-96 has 6 wordclock outputs and even has super wordclock for older ProTools setups.

The GENx96 doesn't have the super wordclock (unless you have an older MixPlus or Mix24 ProTools system then the GENx96 will be fine).

I think Lucid makes darn near as good of a clock as the Apogee Big Ben. No matter how you slice it, they are great bang for the buck.

I'm sure many would argue, but I like a good argument from time to time.


Hope this helps......by the way, don't forget to look into setting up your Paris.cfg file. There should be a text line in the file that says.........

UseHouseSync=1

This config file will probably already say equals zero instead of equals one, but some versions don't have the line at all and you have to add it (just as it reads above). You can edit the file with a text editor, but you might have to right click on the file and use the open with command if you have never opened that type of file before. Use Notepad for Windows and TextEdit for Mac.


Cheers.

-Bradley

Re: How to sync 2 adat cards [message #105586 is a reply to message #105570] Mon, 30 August 2010 22:08 Go to previous message
Philip is currently offline  Philip   UNITED STATES
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Thanks to all. Got the extra optical cable and I am all set. Works like a charm.

Thanks.
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