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Edna Sloan is currently offline  Edna Sloan   UNITED STATES
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Re: Now line lockup [message #60334 is a reply to message #60333] Wed, 16 November 2005 20:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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sp; Is it possible to use these =
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------=_NextPart_000_00A8_01C5EB03.65D479A0--Kim,

I don't see any reason why the Digiface wouldn't work.

Deej



"Kim W." <no@way.tosser> wrote in message news:437bc4c7$1@linux...
>
> Thanks, DJ.
> Do you see any reason why a digiface wouldn't work?
> Reason I ask is that I remember something mentioned about
> one particular model which wouldn't sync reliably.
> (could have been an older one).
> Cheers
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >Kim,
> >
> >My Dakota quit syncing when I went
Re: Now line lockup [message #60335 is a reply to message #60333] Wed, 16 November 2005 20:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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from Cubase v1.06 to v2..0. I think
the
> >reason for this is that Cubase 2.0 does not allow buffer settings in the
> >application itself and the Dakota driver and SX 2.0 aren't communicating
> >well gegarding buffer settings. Whatever the reason, mine wiit working
after
> >the upgrade to 2.0. If you are using v1.6, just find the area where the
> >buffer settings live and match them to the Dakota settings at 512 or
greater
> >andyou should be good.
> >
> >As for the RME card, I'm using HDSP 9652's and a PCI Multiface. Either of
> >these will sync to Paris ADAT sync.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >
> >Vaclav Nijinsky
> >"Kim W." <no@way.fu> wrote in message news:437b502c$1@linux...
> >>
> >> Hi, Deej. (no wait... animix... or was it Doug?)
> >> I know this has been covered before, but could you please
> >> give me a quick updated summary.
> >> I know you are a bit of a guru when it comes to syncing cubase
> >> on a seperate box to Paris via the 9-pin adat connector.
> >> My Frontier Dakota isn't doin' it for me any more.
> >> From what I can make out, it's not going to any
Re: Now line lockup [message #60336 is a reply to message #60335] Wed, 16 November 2005 20:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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time soon.
> >> Which model(s) of the RME stuff (pci and external) do you know
> >> to sync perfectly to Paris via adat 9-pin?.
> >>
> >> Thanks Muchly.
> >>
> >> P.S. I'm still using '98SE on the Paris box, but may go to ME soon.
> >> My toyings with XP haven't been too gratifying. I have one adat card.
> >
> >
>"Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote:
>Neil,
>
>If you want, I can post your comparison files up on my web site so people

>can get to them easily.
>
>I've already got some files from Tom Bruhl posted.
>
>I'm waiting on a couple more files from DJ so I can post up two of his
>"shootouts". There are a lot of files though and it's taking a little while

>to get everything in order. It should be ready soon. ;>)
>
>Morgan is also working on getting a couple of "shootouts" ready for me to

>post up.
>
>It would be kind of cool to have a bunch of these comparisons all in one

>place for people to refer to.
>
>Let me know!
>
>Thanks,
>
>Tony
>www.mercysakes.com/paris

Tony (and also this is for anyone else who might be
interested), I'm going to send you some comparison files for
both Guitar & Snare (sorry I didn't get a chance to do this last
night as I had hoped, but I've got it done now). For guitar,
the mics were:

GUITAR (Electric/Rock/Distorted):
a.) Shure SM-57
b.) Sennheiser e609 Silver
c.) Audix i5
d.) B.L.U.E. Ball

A
Re: Now line lockup [message #60338 is a reply to message #60335] Wed, 16 November 2005 21:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
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evel kinda distortion... nothing too
heavy, but also not simply a non-master-volume amp where you're
depending on speaker distortion only.
3.) the Guitar used was a '75 Gibson Les Paul Deluxe with no
mods whatsoever... again, not a hard-driving set of humbuckers,
nor a low-output set of vintage single-coils... kind of a
midrange level of drive from the guitar itself... nothing was
used in between the amp & the guitar.

ALSO.. for DC's benefit, I recorded a separate take of the same
little wank-bit using the e609, and the Audix i%, but using a
Mucusrite Red8 as the preamp... this pre sounds more aggressive
than the ISA, so I figured I'd utilize that for this comparison.

SNARE MICS:
Finally, I will be sending you a snare mic comparison using the
following mics:
a.) Shure SM-57
b.) Audix D1
c.) Audix i5
d.) B.L.U.E. Ball

All these were recorded simultaneously with the exact same hits
through the Focusrite ISA 428. Again, I wasn't really
concerned about which mics output the hottest, but I tried to
get them to be as close to the same recorded levels as
possible.
Things to note about the snare mic comparisons:
1.) Snare used was a Premier 6" Birch Snare w/Evans Genera G1
coated top head.
2.) All mics were postitioned about 2" off the top head and
slightly overhanging the rim.
3.) No limiting, comp, or EQ was used going to track, of course.

I am also including a snare file with 3 hits from each of the
above mics, but with a touch of EQ & Compression just for the
helluvit, so people can see how each mic reacts to that.

Every file (guitar or snare) is easily recognized by the way
it's named, and they were all recorded at 44.1k/24 bits, then
converted down with no dither or any other processing to mono
mp3 files at 12
Re: Now line lockup [message #60345 is a reply to message #60335] Thu, 17 November 2005 06:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Edna Sloan is currently offline  Edna Sloan   UNITED STATES
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his whip and studded collar.

;o)



"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:e1apn1truu7uohtink05fdgvld750q4vuc@4ax.com...
> ohhhhh, don't tell me it's a real site....man, i thought i was just
> making something up as a joke...since kim implied that he actually
> might know how to cook beyond the microwave set and forget...sheesh...
>
> On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 07:36:21 -0700, "DJ"
> <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>
> >Damn!!!!..........now that's what you call an extreme interpretation of
the
> >assumption of an immediate performance clause in a verbal contract.
> >
> >...........so what's your user name and password???? I'm not at all sure
I
> >want to join. I might become contractually obligated
> >
> >;op
> >
> >
> >"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:9amon19n09qt8ck39li46g9n1rvu8endga@4ax.com...
> >> and you cook too. now get your ass to www.domenow.com
> >>
> >> On 17 Nov 2005 09:27:33 +1000, "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >How wonderful it is to have a brand spanking new BBQ!! :o)
> >> >
> >> >Bought one last night. Put it together while watching the soccer. Lit
her
> >> >up this morning. She's a BEAUT! :o) It's only a ch
Re: Now line lockup [message #60348 is a reply to message #60336] Thu, 17 November 2005 07:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ls,
>>> but he doens ont have a grasp on how the technology works.
>>> So he has been giving me beats done in Fruity Loops (cool program)
>>> Now I have this very young beat producer that works in Cakewalk but
>>> can't
>>> seem to output the beats.
>>> Really this kid is good, but he just does not understand how to get me
> the
>>> beats from Cakewalk. Can anyone help me here as I have never even looked
>>> at Cakewalk. I'm guessing there is a track export feature somewhere.
>>>
>>> C
>>
>>Tom,

I been using Paris with a dual Pentium for MANY years. However, I remember
a few years back some talk between Brian and others that the AMD dual was
the problem. I do get sporadic lockups and uncomplete shutdowns. So I was
trying to find the culprit by restoring from scratch (since I was at a slow
point in recording). I am beginning to believe that Windows is the problem,
not Paris. Of course, try to tell that to Microsoft and they'll ignore you
or certifiably claim it is not their OS. I don't know the source code to
the XP drivers, but perhaps that has something to do with it (I'm using Win
2000). Many have claimed XP is the same as 2000 for the drivers, but I question
that because all audio hardware companies I am familiar with issue drivers
for 2000 separately from XP. And I don't use XP and never will. Please don't
ask why, but I have many reasons... cost is one of them, when the product
isn't worth two cents. My opinion... anyways... I am still hoping to find
the problem.

"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Ed,
>I don't think Paris works with dual processors or Win2000.
>Wait for others to confirm that though.
>Tom
>
>
> "PaulN" <Paul@nospam.com> wrote in message news:4379f51b$

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Re: Now line lockup [message #60360 is a reply to message #60345] Thu, 17 November 2005 08:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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k">437b43b2@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Anyone familiar withe these?&nbsp; I was =
curious about=20
the quality of the sounds and also the 24bit converters.&nbsp; =
Creative=20
has these refurbished very reasonablly priced.&nbsp; Is it =
possible to use=20
these 24bit converters instead of the Paris' 20bit and not lose =
the Paris=20
sound?&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT=20
size=3D2>Edna</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE ></BODY><=
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------=_NextPart_000_003E_01C5EB65.D0BDC890--i may joke about sheep and things but no dude names hjorst better show
his ass up here.

;o)

On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 09:08:30 -0700, "DJ"
<animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:

>It looks real to me. Ya' gotta' be careful out there these days. Some dude
>named Hjorst may show up on your doorstep with his whip and studded collar.
>
>;o)
>
>
>
>"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:e1apn1truu7uohtink05fdgvld750q4vuc@4ax.com...
>> ohhhhh, don't tell me it's a real site....man, i thought i was just
>> making something up as a joke...since kim implied that he actually
>> might know how to cook beyond the microwave set and forget...sheesh...
>>
>> On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 07:36:21 -0700, "DJ"
>> <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>
>> >Damn!!!!..........now that's what you call an extreme interpretation of
>the
>> >assumption of an immediate performance clause in a verbal contract.
>> >
>> >...........so what's your user name and password???? I'm not at all sure
>I
>> >want to join. I might become contractually obligated
>> >
>> >;op
>> >
>> >
>> >"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> >news:9amon19n09qt8ck39li46g9n1rvu8endga@4ax.com...
>> >> and you cook too. now get your ass to www.domenow.com
>> >>
&
Re: Now line lockup [message #60383 is a reply to message #60360] Thu, 17 November 2005 18:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Edna Sloan is currently offline  Edna Sloan   UNITED STATES
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t; plug the amp in, of having 117 volts on your fingers....
>
> You won't notice until you grab something that is grounded...
>
>
> zzzZZZTTTTT
>
> Not a very romantic way to die for your art...
>
> EK Sound <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote:
> >We have had calls about this from local churches...
> >
> >David.
> >
> >DC wrote:
> >> Seen this?
> >>
> >> http://svconline.com/enewsletters/church_safety_concerns_111 72005/
>Hi Edna,

some thoughts/answers below:

"Edna" <edna@texomaonline.com> wrote in message news:437d3344@linux...
> I believe I did try the Kurzweil 2500 when I was in Dallas a few years ago
> and as I recall I did like the piano sound. There was so much noise in
the
> music store I really couldn't tell a whole lot - they were expensive.

the price has come down a lot. I'm not sure if Kurzweil is even in business
any more.
http://cgi.ebay.com/KURZWEIL-K2500R-RACKMOUNT-SYNTH-MODULE-R ACK_W0QQitemZ736
5715021QQcategoryZ1289QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

> Not sure what the VSTi is - software synth? - but I will search it out.

Yes.

My
> JV is 13yrs old and I haven't heard any of the newer Roland stuff. I have
> heard a lot about the Giga Piano. I dont have a sampler or any way right
> now to play sample libraries. By voices, I was just referring to sounds,

Ohyeah!!!........synth voices.......DOH!!! I always called them patches but
oh well.......my bad. It's been so long since I've used synths, I forgot the
terminology.

> but I do like to use some background voices for church music work. My JV
> has a couple that are fair. It also has a decent piano and some nice
pads.
> Rythmn guitar, especially heavy, has been a real challenge though. It
has
> a built in sequencer, 8 track, which is pretty nice. The Roland manuals
> apparently were written by engineers, not musicians, and took me several
> months to get through.

The first sequencer I tried to learn was a Boss DR5. It almost put me off
electornic music for good until one day the lights came on.

>I do have a couple other computers I could dedicate
> to music and midi: 2500+ Barton and 1.33Ghz AMDs. Also have an OCed
> Celeron 850 that I am using for internet and some older
peripherals/programs
> under 98se.

The Barton, or 1.33 would probably work well as a Paris rig. Even the
Celeron if you're not using too many native plugins.

I have Paris on my P4 with 1GB ram. I could put Paris on one
> of the others and use the P4 for the cpu intensive work. I have OCed the
> P4 to 3.1GHz with good stability, although I have it running stock now
while
> I am working with/learning the Paris app.

This would be much more effective for streaming VST instruments. Generally
speaking, it's good to have as much CPU and RAM as you can afford for VSTi
performance.

Also have noticed that everything
> is now 24/96 it seems. Is there really a lot of noticeable differenc
Re: Now line lockup [message #60387 is a reply to message #60383] Thu, 17 November 2005 19:15 Go to previous message
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n message news:437d9b90$1@linux...
>
>
> Just got it set up. Strangely, due to a bungle in the account of my
previous
> house, my phone got cut off...
>
> ...but not really, because just half an hour earlier I'd punched in the
> config for the VOIP! I still had a phone where I could call everyone and
> pay the bills to get the phone reconnected! :o)
>
> I haven't been able to notice any quality difference at all as of yet, but
> I am using the world's cheapest worst quality wireless handset to do the
> tests. ;o) Still, the fact that the delay isn't noticable is a start.
>
> I'm stoked! :o)
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.What service/hardware are you using? I've been looking at this but was really
worried about how relable it would be and I had heard of delays and bad quality.
But it sounds like you like it! Thanks


"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>Just got it set up. Strangely, due to a bungle in the account of my previous
>house, my phone got cut off...
>
>...but not really, because just half an hour earlier I'd punched in the
>config for the VOIP! I still had a phone where I could call everyone and
>pay the bills to get the phone reconnected! :o)
>
>I haven't been able to notice any quality difference at all as of yet, but
>I am using the world's cheapest worst quality wireless handset to do the
>tests. ;o) Still, the fact that the delay isn't noticable is a start.
>
>I'm stoked! :o)
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.Kim knows, I talked with him too in over an hour as a test when I got the
system up and running, with a quality like he was in the neighbourhood:-)
I've talked with Steve too in California with the same result. I'm using a
normal analog phone going to a converter coupled to a switch for the ADSL
modem. It's the best telephone service I've had in my whole life and it
costs me just about 22$ a month to have free calling to nearly the whole
world. The only thing that isn't free yet is the mobile callings but I know
they're working on it with beta testings in these days.

Erling

"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> skrev i melding
news:437de785@linux...
>I talked to Erling on VOIP a few months ago. The signal was strong and
>clear
> with no problematidc latency between Colorado and Norway.
>
> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:437d9b90$1@linux...
>>
>>
>> Just got it set up. Strangely, due to a bungle in the account of my
> previous
>> house, my phone got cut off...
>>
>> ...but not really, because just half an hour earlier I'd punched in the
>> config for the VOIP! I still had a phone where I could call everyone and
>> pay the bills to get the phone reconnected! :o)
>>
>> I haven't been able to notice any quality difference at all as of yet,
>> but
>> I am using the world's cheapest worst quality wireless handset to do the
>> tests. ;o) Still, the fact that the delay isn't noticable is a start.
>>
>> I'm stoked! :o)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kim.
>
>Worry no more my friend. I've had Vonage for over a year now and am very satisfied
with the product. Since I converted in Sept. 2004, I've saved in the neighborhood
of $600 as well.

Solid VOIP depends mostly on having a stable broadband internet connection
usually cable modem or T-1 setup. DSL would be kind dumb because the whole
idea is the dump your local phone co.

If you have cable modem and a situation where you are constantly UPloading
lots of data to another location, you could run into some lost voice packets
to the listener on the other e
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