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gene lennon is currently offline  gene lennon
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I went to a Sonar 6 demo last night. I am primarily interested in the 64-bit
mix engine and how it sounds. My last experiment with Sonar was several years
ago and I hated the sound.
Zac Kenney from cakewalk gave the demo. Not that it was a surprise, but the
setup was not appropriate to judge audio quality, although I did hear one
acoustic track that may sound very good in a better environment.
Some high-end plug-ins like the Refined Audiometrics PLParEQ EQ work native
in Sonar at 64 bits (Audio engine). I have not heard this yet but is should
be very good. I hope Sony and Algorithmix do the same. The included convolution
reverb also runs native at 64 (as do most of the included plug-ins and some
of the VSTIs). A demo version is not available yet, so I will have to wait.

Audio engine aside, the feature set and ergonomic aspects of Sonar are very
impressive.
Running on a 64 bit OS, Sonar can address all the RAM you would ever need.
A 100 plus track session with streaming video and many VSTIs seemed like
a “walk in the park.” on a dual core PC.
It did crash during the demo, so overall the jury is still out.

Gene
Re: Sonar 6 Tour [message #74833 is a reply to message #74805] Wed, 25 October 2006 14:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
AlexPlasko is currently offline  AlexPlasko   UNITED STATES
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hi gene
I also went to a sonar demo last week, and that 64 bit subject came up.
according to the rep the sonar audio engine is running in 64 bit mode in
windows xp 32 bit already. you dont have to have win xp 64.
I have to admit i was impressed with the improvements they made .most
notibly the new features like real time audio warping.Its like they are
giving you vocalign,melodyne,recycle,drumagogg,and a fewother programs
integrated into sonarV 6.The rep had a mix of a queen tune they were doing a
remix on ,and it sounded pretty damn good, even through the PA speakers
they substituted for monitors.
I love cubase 4 , but that demo has me thinking again.
and it supports VST! imagine that.
Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> I went to a Sonar 6 demo last night. I am primarily interested in the
> 64-bit
> mix engine and how it sounds. My last experiment with Sonar was several
> years
> ago and I hated the sound.
> Zac Kenney from cakewalk gave the demo. Not that it was a surprise, but
> the
> setup was not appropriate to judge audio quality, although I did hear one
> acoustic track that may sound very good in a better environment.
> Some high-end plug-ins like the Refined Audiometrics PLParEQ EQ work
> native
> in Sonar at 64 bits (Audio engine). I have not heard this yet but is
> should
> be very good. I hope Sony and Algorithmix do the same. The included
> convolution
> reverb also runs native at 64 (as do most of the included plug-ins and
> some
> of the VSTIs). A demo version is not available yet, so I will have to
> wait.
>
> Audio engine aside, the feature set and ergonomic aspects of Sonar are
> very
> impressive.
> Running on a 64 bit OS, Sonar can address all the RAM you would ever need.
> A 100 plus track session with streaming video and many VSTIs seemed like
> a "walk in the park." on a dual core PC.
> It did crash during the demo, so overall the jury is still out.
>
> Gene
>
Re: Sonar 6 Tour [message #74846 is a reply to message #74833] Wed, 25 October 2006 17:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gene lennon is currently offline  gene lennon
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"alex plasko" <alex.plasko@snet.net> wrote:
>hi gene
> I also went to a sonar demo last week, and that 64 bit subject came up.

>according to the rep the sonar audio engine is running in 64 bit mode in

>windows xp 32 bit already. you dont have to have win xp 64.
>I have to admit i was impressed with the improvements they made .most
>notibly the new features like real time audio warping.Its like they are

>giving you vocalign,melodyne,recycle,drumagogg,and a fewother programs
>integrated into sonarV 6.The rep had a mix of a queen tune they were doing
a
>remix on ,and it sounded pretty damn good, even through the PA speakers

>they substituted for monitors.
>I love cubase 4 , but that demo has me thinking again.
>and it supports VST! imagine that.
>Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote in message
>news:453f7f7d$1@linux...
>>
>
Hi Alex,
Yes, the 64bit mix engine and the ability to run on 64 bit OS are two separate
issues. I saw it running all 4 ways.
As to “Its like they are giving you vocalign, melodyne, recycle, drumagogg,
and a few other programs integrated into Sonar V 6”

Yes but each of the programs you list work better than the integrated features
in Sonar. Particularly VocAlign, Which I use a lot, and Sonar’s audio stretching
is impressive but for drums, Pro Tools Beat Detective is a better approach.

The clever integration of iZotope Radius is perhaps the most exciting feature
for producer/engineers that do a lot of audio manipulation (Like me). Sonar
is certainly impressive. Even if the mix bus comes up short, I still may
consider switching and using external summing. The low cost of the competitive
crossgrade means that I will probably be adding it to my collection even
if I only use it for a few of its tricks.
Gene
Re: Sonar 6 Tour [message #74856 is a reply to message #74846] Wed, 25 October 2006 19:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
excelav is currently offline  excelav   
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"Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
>
>"alex plasko" <alex.plasko@snet.net> wrote:
>>hi gene
>> I also went to a sonar demo last week, and that 64 bit subject came up.
>
>>according to the rep the sonar audio engine is running in 64 bit mode in
>
>>windows xp 32 bit already. you dont have to have win xp 64.
>>I have to admit i was impressed with the improvements they made .most
>>notibly the new features like real time audio warping.Its like they are
>
>>giving you vocalign,melodyne,recycle,drumagogg,and a fewother programs

>>integrated into sonarV 6.The rep had a mix of a queen tune they were doing
>a
>>remix on ,and it sounded pretty damn good, even through the PA speakers
>
>>they substituted for monitors.
>>I love cubase 4 , but that demo has me thinking again.
>>and it supports VST! imagine that.
>>Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote in message
>>news:453f7f7d$1@linux...
>>>
>>
>Hi Alex,
>Yes, the 64bit mix engine and the ability to run on 64 bit OS are two separate
>issues. I saw it running all 4 ways.
>As to “Its like they are giving you vocalign, melodyne, recycle, drumagogg,
>and a few other programs integrated into Sonar V 6”
>
>Yes but each of the programs you list work better than the integrated features
>in Sonar. Particularly VocAlign, Which I use a lot, and Sonar’s audio stretching
>is impressive but for drums, Pro Tools Beat Detective is a better approach.
>
>The clever integration of iZotope Radius is perhaps the most exciting feature
>for producer/engineers that do a lot of audio manipulation (Like me). Sonar
>is certainly impressive. Even if the mix bus comes up short, I still may
>consider switching and using external summing. The low cost of the competitive
>crossgrade means that I will probably be adding it to my collection even
>if I only use it for a few of its tricks.
>Gene

But Gene, that's a PC program! Oh yeah, that's right, you got one of them
newfangled Macs; )

James
Re: Sonar 6 Tour [message #74857 is a reply to message #74856] Wed, 25 October 2006 19:20 Go to previous message
gene lennon is currently offline  gene lennon
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"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:

>But Gene, that's a PC program! Oh yeah, that's right, you got one of them
>newfangled Macs; )
>
>James
>

I always ran Paris on a PC.

Suffered but survived. :¬)

Gene
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