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Tue, 09 December 2008 18:58

chuck duffy
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Registered: July 2005

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For anyone who has heard about this...

I submit that both Satriani copied the melody for the song note for note
from an earlier mid 80s new wave song. Can anyone help me remember what that
song is :-)

Chuck

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Re: OT:Coldplay versus Satriani [message #101542 is a reply to message #101539]

Tue, 09 December 2008 19:12

Messages: 327
Registered: September 2005

Senior Member

Interesting, I thought of that earlier today. Not that I've heard the
new wave song, but it crossed my mind as a "what if" scenario.

In any event, I can't believe that it would have been intentional on
Coldplay's part.

Chuck Duffy wrote:
> For anyone who has heard about this...
>
> I submit that both Satriani copied the melody for the song note for note
> from an earlier mid 80s new wave song. Can anyone help me remember what that
> song is :-)
>
> Chuck

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Re: OT:Coldplay versus Satriani [message #101546 is a reply to message #101539]

Tue, 09 December 2008 23:33

Neil
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Registered: April 2006

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"Chuck Duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>
>For anyone who has heard about this...
>
>I submit that both Satriani copied the melody for the song note for note
>from an earlier mid 80s new wave song. Can anyone help me remember what
that
>song is :-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPBObr3-GDE&feature=relat ed

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Re: OT:Coldplay versus Satriani [message #101553 is a reply to message #101539]

Wed, 10 December 2008 00:50

Erling

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Registered: October 2008

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He, he, it's a clasical example in "stealing" something without knowing from
where. This riff have been used in hundreds of songs the last 50 years
without anyone saying a shit; and now it seems that Satrini needs some money
on his "selfmade" riff;o)

Erling

"Chuck Duffy" <c@c.com> skrev i melding news:493f2258$1@linux...
>
> For anyone who has heard about this...
>
> I submit that both Satriani copied the melody for the song note for note
> from an earlier mid 80s new wave song. Can anyone help me remember what
> that
> song is :-)
>
> Chuck

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Re: OT:Coldplay versus Satriani [message #101555 is a reply to message #101553]

Wed, 10 December 2008 02:12

Erling

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Registered: October 2008

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He, he, there's a lot of difference in naming Satrini or Satriani;o)

Erling

"Erling" <erling.lovik@lyse.net> skrev i melding news:493f86ae@linux...
> He, he, it's a clasical example in "stealing" something without knowing
> from where. This riff have been used in hundreds of songs the last 50
> years without anyone saying a shit; and now it seems that Satrini needs
> some money on his "selfmade" riff;o)
>
> Erling
>
> "Chuck Duffy" <c@c.com> skrev i melding news:493f2258$1@linux...
>>
>> For anyone who has heard about this...
>>
>> I submit that both Satriani copied the melody for the song note for note
>> from an earlier mid 80s new wave song. Can anyone help me remember what
>> that
>> song is :-)
>>
>> Chuck
>
>
>

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Re: OT:Coldplay versus Satriani [message #101562 is a reply to message #101555]

Wed, 10 December 2008 18:54

Neil
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Registered: April 2006

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I think the 80's New Wave song Chuck may have been thinking
about may have been the Pet Shop Boys tune... but that mashup
link I posted proves that there are quite a few songs that
sound very similar.

Neil

"Erling" <erling.lovik@lyse.net> wrote:
>He, he, there's a lot of difference in naming Satrini or Satriani;o)
>
>Erling
>
>"Erling" <erling.lovik@lyse.net> skrev i melding news:493f86ae@linux...
>> He, he, it's a clasical example in "stealing" something without knowing

>> from where. This riff have been used in hundreds of songs the last 50

>> years without anyone saying a shit; and now it seems that Satrini needs

>> some money on his "selfmade" riff;o)
>>
>> Erling
>>
>> "Chuck Duffy" <c@c.com> skrev i melding news:493f2258$1@linux...
>>>
>>> For anyone who has heard about this...
>>>
>>> I submit that both Satriani copied the melody for the song note for note
>>> from an earlier mid 80s new wave song. Can anyone help me remember what

>>> that
>>> song is :-)
>>>
>>> Chuck
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

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Re: OT:Coldplay versus Satriani [message #101577 is a reply to message #101562]

Thu, 11 December 2008 07:07

chuck duffy
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Registered: July 2005

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It may be. Thanks Neil. Whenever I hear the new Coldplay cd it suprises me
just how many of the songs are instantly recognizable and leave me wondering
where I heard them before.

"Neil" <OIUOI@OI.com> wrote:
>
>I think the 80's New Wave song Chuck may have been thinking
>about may have been the Pet Shop Boys tune... but that mashup
>link I posted proves that there are quite a few songs that
>sound very similar.
>
>Neil
>
>
>"Erling" <erling.lovik@lyse.net> wrote:
>>He, he, there's a lot of difference in naming Satrini or Satriani;o)
>>
>>Erling
>>
>>"Erling" <erling.lovik@lyse.net> skrev i melding news:493f86ae@linux...
>>> He, he, it's a clasical example in "stealing" something without knowing
>
>>> from where. This riff have been used in hundreds of songs the last 50
>
>>> years without anyone saying a shit; and now it seems that Satrini needs
>
>>> some money on his "selfmade" riff;o)
>>>
>>> Erling
>>>
>>> "Chuck Duffy" <c@c.com> skrev i melding news:493f2258$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> For anyone who has heard about this...
>>>>
>>>> I submit that both Satriani copied the melody for the song note for
note
>>>> from an earlier mid 80s new wave song. Can anyone help me remember what
>
>>>> that
>>>> song is :-)
>>>>
>>>> Chuck
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>

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Re: OT:Coldplay versus Satriani [message #101589 is a reply to message #101577]

Thu, 11 December 2008 19:39

Neil
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Registered: April 2006

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"chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>
>It may be. Thanks Neil. Whenever I hear the new Coldplay cd it suprises
me
>just how many of the songs are instantly recognizable and leave me wondering
>where I heard them before.

Well, Coldplay even admitted that their last hit (I can't
remember the name of it, sorry) evolved as a result of them
trying to cover Kate Bush's song "Cloudbusting" (or was
it "Running Up that Hill"??? Can't recall what they said),
and not being able to do it properly, so they just ended up
taking the closest version they could get and turning it into a
song of their own.

So, maybe they're notorious for this, and THAT's why their new
songs sound so familiar... maybe they're all songs you've
already heard, just re-worked.

;)

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Re: OT:Coldplay versus Satriani [message #101594 is a reply to message #101589]

Fri, 12 December 2008 08:22

chuck duffy
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Registered: July 2005

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Even the lyrics make me doubletake, but I think that's cause there are a lot
of cliches. Take for example:

Those who are dead, are not dead, they are living in my head (- or something
close to that....). Where *haven't* I heard something like that before :-)

Chuck

"Neil" <OIIOU@OI.com> wrote:
>
>"chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>>
>>It may be. Thanks Neil. Whenever I hear the new Coldplay cd it suprises
>me
>>just how many of the songs are instantly recognizable and leave me wondering
>>where I heard them before.
>
>Well, Coldplay even admitted that their last hit (I can't
>remember the name of it, sorry) evolved as a result of them
>trying to cover Kate Bush's song "Cloudbusting" (or was
>it "Running Up that Hill"??? Can't recall what they said),
>and not being able to do it properly, so they just ended up
>taking the closest version they could get and turning it into a
>song of their own.
>
>So, maybe they're notorious for this, and THAT's why their new
>songs sound so familiar... maybe they're all songs you've
>already heard, just re-worked.
>
>;)
>
>
>

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