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Leaving Paris [message #73112] Tue, 26 September 2006 09:23 Go to next message
Slavii is currently offline  Slavii
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Registered: September 2006
Junior Member
For those of you who have left Paris for greener pastures or are considering
doing so, what systems have you moved to ? And can you use paris hardware
with other newer systems. I love paris but some of the bugs just wear on
me after a while. I can only imagine how you guys who use paris with clients
must get frustrated at times.

Thanks,

Steve L.
Re: Leaving Paris [message #73119 is a reply to message #73112] Tue, 26 September 2006 11:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
rick is currently offline  rick   UNITED STATES
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Registered: February 2006
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got dp, logic pro and ptle here on a (choke...gasp ...wheeze) mac core
duo 2.3. mostly stable except for the "the application has
unexpectedly quit" thingy once in a while. they each have their
quirks.

as far i know paris really only runs with paris.

as to the frustration thing, it really doesn't matter what app crashes
when in use. when they go they go; you just reboot and hope the audio
files are still there...especially with macs.


On 27 Sep 2006 02:23:06 +1000, "Steve L." <slavii@aol.com> wrote:

>
>For those of you who have left Paris for greener pastures or are considering
>doing so, what systems have you moved to ? And can you use paris hardware
>with other newer systems. I love paris but some of the bugs just wear on
>me after a while. I can only imagine how you guys who use paris with clients
>must get frustrated at times.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Steve L.
Re: Leaving Paris [message #73121 is a reply to message #73112] Tue, 26 September 2006 12:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gantt Kushner is currently offline  Gantt Kushner   
Messages: 545
Registered: June 2006
Location: Silver Spring, Maryland, ...
Senior Member

My two biggest frustrations w/ Paris are (in order of importance to me):

1) Can't use cool new plugins like UAD-1's Neve EQ, Waves IR-1 reverbs,
VocAlign, Pitch'n'Time, etc.

2) Not being able to automate sends, EQs and plugin parameters.

I've learned to live w/ the bugs and other quirks. I also have DP and PT
LE. I haven't tried Logic yet. I have friends who use Nuendo and love it,
but I don't know if that's the best way to go for a Mac Dude like me.

God help me... I still love the way Paris sounds!

Gantt

"Steve L." <slavii@aol.com> wrote:
>
>For those of you who have left Paris for greener pastures or are considering
>doing so, what systems have you moved to ? And can you use paris hardware
>with other newer systems. I love paris but some of the bugs just wear on
>me after a while. I can only imagine how you guys who use paris with clients
>must get frustrated at times.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Steve L.
>


Gantt Kushner
Gizmo Recording Company
Silver Spring, MD
www.gizmorecording.com
Re: Leaving Paris [message #73122 is a reply to message #73119] Tue, 26 September 2006 12:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jamie K is currently offline  Jamie K   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1115
Registered: July 2006
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I'm currently using Logic Pro on a dual 2.5GHZ G5 Mac with 2.5GB RAM
(room for 8GB). Plenty fast for tons of tracks, FX and soft synths, and
Logic comes with a good selection of both. I've added some additional
Audio Unit soft synths.

I have had Logic quit on me but I have never lost an audio track or a
project file and I've been using Logic for a few years now. With the
last few Logic updates the stability is improved and they finally fixed
my top three bugs (see other threads).

OSX runs here for weeks/months without rebooting. Journaled file system,
decent security, reasonable multi-tasking. Nice system for video editing
and animation/graphics, too.

Cheers,
-Jamie
http://www.JamieKrutz.com


rick wrote:
> got dp, logic pro and ptle here on a (choke...gasp ...wheeze) mac core
> duo 2.3. mostly stable except for the "the application has
> unexpectedly quit" thingy once in a while. they each have their
> quirks.
>
> as far i know paris really only runs with paris.
>
> as to the frustration thing, it really doesn't matter what app crashes
> when in use. when they go they go; you just reboot and hope the audio
> files are still there...especially with macs.
>
>
> On 27 Sep 2006 02:23:06 +1000, "Steve L." <slavii@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> For those of you who have left Paris for greener pastures or are considering
>> doing so, what systems have you moved to ? And can you use paris hardware
>> with other newer systems. I love paris but some of the bugs just wear on
>> me after a while. I can only imagine how you guys who use paris with clients
>> must get frustrated at times.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Steve L.
>
Re: Leaving Paris [message #73123 is a reply to message #73121] Tue, 26 September 2006 12:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Slavii is currently offline  Slavii
Messages: 17
Registered: September 2006
Junior Member
I love the way paris sounds too. I've been using paris since '99 and have
also gotten used to the bugs. But I must admit unti my recent unexplained
clicks I haven't seen the need to switch to another set up.

"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>My two biggest frustrations w/ Paris are (in order of importance to me):
>
>1) Can't use cool new plugins like UAD-1's Neve EQ, Waves IR-1 reverbs,
> VocAlign, Pitch'n'Time, etc.
>
>2) Not being able to automate sends, EQs and plugin parameters.
>
>I've learned to live w/ the bugs and other quirks. I also have DP and PT
>LE. I haven't tried Logic yet. I have friends who use Nuendo and love
it,
>but I don't know if that's the best way to go for a Mac Dude like me.
>
>God help me... I still love the way Paris sounds!
>
>Gantt
>
>"Steve L." <slavii@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>For those of you who have left Paris for greener pastures or are considering
>>doing so, what systems have you moved to ? And can you use paris hardware
>>with other newer systems. I love paris but some of the bugs just wear
on
>>me after a while. I can only imagine how you guys who use paris with clients
>>must get frustrated at times.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Steve L.
>>
>
Re: Leaving Paris [message #73140 is a reply to message #73122] Wed, 27 September 2006 02:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
rick is currently offline  rick   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1976
Registered: February 2006
Senior Member
i'm not saying it happens a lot but it has happened to me and others i
know. and the reboot is for logic not the mac.

On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 13:43:07 -0600, Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com>
wrote:

>
>I'm currently using Logic Pro on a dual 2.5GHZ G5 Mac with 2.5GB RAM
>(room for 8GB). Plenty fast for tons of tracks, FX and soft synths, and
>Logic comes with a good selection of both. I've added some additional
>Audio Unit soft synths.
>
>I have had Logic quit on me but I have never lost an audio track or a
>project file and I've been using Logic for a few years now. With the
>last few Logic updates the stability is improved and they finally fixed
>my top three bugs (see other threads).
>
>OSX runs here for weeks/months without rebooting. Journaled file system,
>decent security, reasonable multi-tasking. Nice system for video editing
>and animation/graphics, too.
>
>Cheers,
> -Jamie
> http://www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
>rick wrote:
>> got dp, logic pro and ptle here on a (choke...gasp ...wheeze) mac core
>> duo 2.3. mostly stable except for the "the application has
>> unexpectedly quit" thingy once in a while. they each have their
>> quirks.
>>
>> as far i know paris really only runs with paris.
>>
>> as to the frustration thing, it really doesn't matter what app crashes
>> when in use. when they go they go; you just reboot and hope the audio
>> files are still there...especially with macs.
>>
>>
>> On 27 Sep 2006 02:23:06 +1000, "Steve L." <slavii@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>> For those of you who have left Paris for greener pastures or are considering
>>> doing so, what systems have you moved to ? And can you use paris hardware
>>> with other newer systems. I love paris but some of the bugs just wear on
>>> me after a while. I can only imagine how you guys who use paris with clients
>>> must get frustrated at times.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Steve L.
>>
Re: Leaving Paris [message #73148 is a reply to message #73140] Wed, 27 September 2006 08:34 Go to previous message
Jamie K is currently offline  Jamie K   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1115
Registered: July 2006
Senior Member
Ah, OK. "Reboot" means to restart the OS, something that's very rarely
necessary with OSX.

Starting Logic again if it quits makes sense. Logic has quit on me also,
but the last few updates have made it much more stable while fixing the
most annoying (to me) bugs. Logic hasn't lost any data here even during
its least stable period. It seems pretty reliable now and the feature
set is amazing.

Logic has progressed to the point where I can now recommend it.

Cheers,
-Jamie
http://www.JamieKrutz.com



rick wrote:
> i'm not saying it happens a lot but it has happened to me and others i
> know. and the reboot is for logic not the mac.
>
> On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 13:43:07 -0600, Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I'm currently using Logic Pro on a dual 2.5GHZ G5 Mac with 2.5GB RAM
>> (room for 8GB). Plenty fast for tons of tracks, FX and soft synths, and
>> Logic comes with a good selection of both. I've added some additional
>> Audio Unit soft synths.
>>
>> I have had Logic quit on me but I have never lost an audio track or a
>> project file and I've been using Logic for a few years now. With the
>> last few Logic updates the stability is improved and they finally fixed
>> my top three bugs (see other threads).
>>
>> OSX runs here for weeks/months without rebooting. Journaled file system,
>> decent security, reasonable multi-tasking. Nice system for video editing
>> and animation/graphics, too.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> http://www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>> rick wrote:
>>> got dp, logic pro and ptle here on a (choke...gasp ...wheeze) mac core
>>> duo 2.3. mostly stable except for the "the application has
>>> unexpectedly quit" thingy once in a while. they each have their
>>> quirks.
>>>
>>> as far i know paris really only runs with paris.
>>>
>>> as to the frustration thing, it really doesn't matter what app crashes
>>> when in use. when they go they go; you just reboot and hope the audio
>>> files are still there...especially with macs.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 27 Sep 2006 02:23:06 +1000, "Steve L." <slavii@aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> For those of you who have left Paris for greener pastures or are considering
>>>> doing so, what systems have you moved to ? And can you use paris hardware
>>>> with other newer systems. I love paris but some of the bugs just wear on
>>>> me after a while. I can only imagine how you guys who use paris with clients
>>>> must get frustrated at times.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Steve L.
>
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