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Apple redux [message #92492] Wed, 07 November 2007 20:29 Go to next message
chuck duffy is currently offline  chuck duffy
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Has anyone here seen an iPhone in use by a non geek? It's amazing. It's
hands down the best user interface I have ever seen. The 'gesturing' thing
rocks. I watched a valley girl navigate through 40 GB of voicemail, email,
photo, web, blog, video and audio content to find the item she was after
within 5 seconds.

Chuck
Re: Apple redux [message #92495 is a reply to message #92492] Wed, 07 November 2007 20:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Neil is currently offline  Neil
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If you saw the Leopard review I posted that was written by
Shelly Palmer, in another review he RAVES about the iPhone
itself, but bitches like hell about the fact that it's tied
to AT&T, which drops calls like crazy - at least where he's
at (he lives & works in NYC). In fact - if I can get this quote
right, he said something like: "I have YET to have a single call
that ends in: 'Goodbye'; so far every call has ended in: 'Hello?
Hello?' "

Neil


"chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>
>Has anyone here seen an iPhone in use by a non geek? It's amazing. It's
>hands down the best user interface I have ever seen. The 'gesturing' thing
>rocks. I watched a valley girl navigate through 40 GB of voicemail, email,
>photo, web, blog, video and audio content to find the item she was after
>within 5 seconds.
>
>Chuck
Re: Apple redux [message #92498 is a reply to message #92495] Wed, 07 November 2007 21:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Al Corey is currently offline  Al Corey   
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Yeah, Fewest dropped calls!! Right!!! We were with verizon in So Cal for 8
years and also spent a lot of time in NY city and maybe lost a dozen calls
the whole time. Switched to AT&T 2 months ago and got 2 Iphones and I probably
had a dozen dropped calls the 1ST DAY!!! Many more have followed.
So Cal and NY city should have no problems with dropped calls.
Where do they get their statistics???
Re: Apple redux [message #92499 is a reply to message #92498] Wed, 07 November 2007 21:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Al Corey is currently offline  Al Corey   
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BTW the phones themselves are really cool
Re: Apple redux [message #92505 is a reply to message #92498] Wed, 07 November 2007 20:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dedric Terry is currently offline  Dedric Terry   UNITED STATES
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I would love an iPhone, but not as long as they are locked to AT&T. Verizon
has been good so far for us.

I'm also not too enthusiastic about another device with a battery that would
require a service center to replace it (my wife's Palm has such a battery,
and to replace it would cost $60 plus the battery - the Palm only costs $99
new.... guess the Palm will eventually die when the battery does).

Gotta say, the whole "battery service plan" idea has only one reason: more
profit, just like car manufacturers and the parts business.

Dedric

On 11/7/07 10:07 PM, in article 47328b96$1@linux, "Al Corey"
<alcorey@cox.net> wrote:

>
> Yeah, Fewest dropped calls!! Right!!! We were with verizon in So Cal for 8
> years and also spent a lot of time in NY city and maybe lost a dozen calls
> the whole time. Switched to AT&T 2 months ago and got 2 Iphones and I probably
> had a dozen dropped calls the 1ST DAY!!! Many more have followed.
> So Cal and NY city should have no problems with dropped calls.
> Where do they get their statistics???
Re: Apple redux [message #92519 is a reply to message #92505] Thu, 08 November 2007 06:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
chuck duffy is currently offline  chuck duffy
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Of course leave it to you guys to want something that actually works.

To sum up, an iPhone owner should be able to subscribe to the carrier of
their choice, expect a reliable network and be allowed to purchase and install
a new battery when the old one dies. That all sounds reasonable to me, practical
usability :-)

Chuck


Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>I would love an iPhone, but not as long as they are locked to AT&T. Verizon
>has been good so far for us.
>
>I'm also not too enthusiastic about another device with a battery that would
>require a service center to replace it (my wife's Palm has such a battery,
>and to replace it would cost $60 plus the battery - the Palm only costs
$99
>new.... guess the Palm will eventually die when the battery does).
>
>Gotta say, the whole "battery service plan" idea has only one reason: more
>profit, just like car manufacturers and the parts business.
>
>Dedric
>
>On 11/7/07 10:07 PM, in article 47328b96$1@linux, "Al Corey"
><alcorey@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> Yeah, Fewest dropped calls!! Right!!! We were with verizon in So Cal for
8
>> years and also spent a lot of time in NY city and maybe lost a dozen calls
>> the whole time. Switched to AT&T 2 months ago and got 2 Iphones and I
probably
>> had a dozen dropped calls the 1ST DAY!!! Many more have followed.
>> So Cal and NY city should have no problems with dropped calls.
>> Where do they get their statistics???
>
Re: Apple redux [message #92522 is a reply to message #92519] Thu, 08 November 2007 06:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dedric Terry is currently offline  Dedric Terry   UNITED STATES
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:-) No doubt.

I've always wondered what compels companies (not just Apple in this case) to
limit choices (carrier), expandability/longevity at low cost
(user-replaceable batteries, etc). Are they really making that much more
profit on repairs and an exclusive contract with a 3rd party (AT&T)?

I know AT&T is making money off of this, and Apple is getting a cut of
AT&T's fees, but hasn't history proven that flexibility opens the market to
more customers, or am I dreaming?

Dedric

On 11/8/07 7:34 AM, in article 47331058$1@linux, "chuck duffy" <c@c.com>
wrote:

>
> Of course leave it to you guys to want something that actually works.
>
> To sum up, an iPhone owner should be able to subscribe to the carrier of
> their choice, expect a reliable network and be allowed to purchase and install
> a new battery when the old one dies. That all sounds reasonable to me,
> practical
> usability :-)
>
> Chuck
>
>
> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>> I would love an iPhone, but not as long as they are locked to AT&T. Verizon
>> has been good so far for us.
>>
>> I'm also not too enthusiastic about another device with a battery that would
>> require a service center to replace it (my wife's Palm has such a battery,
>> and to replace it would cost $60 plus the battery - the Palm only costs
> $99
>> new.... guess the Palm will eventually die when the battery does).
>>
>> Gotta say, the whole "battery service plan" idea has only one reason: more
>> profit, just like car manufacturers and the parts business.
>>
>> Dedric
>>
>> On 11/7/07 10:07 PM, in article 47328b96$1@linux, "Al Corey"
>> <alcorey@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Yeah, Fewest dropped calls!! Right!!! We were with verizon in So Cal for
> 8
>>> years and also spent a lot of time in NY city and maybe lost a dozen calls
>>> the whole time. Switched to AT&T 2 months ago and got 2 Iphones and I
> probably
>>> had a dozen dropped calls the 1ST DAY!!! Many more have followed.
>>> So Cal and NY city should have no problems with dropped calls.
>>> Where do they get their statistics???
>>
>
Re: Apple redux [message #92523 is a reply to message #92492] Thu, 08 November 2007 07:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
TCB is currently offline  TCB
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They're really, cool tech. Too bad Apple actively antagonizes corporate and
exchange users. I'd love to have one if a) it worked as 80% as well as my
BBerry does with Exchange and b) I could put music on it in OGG of FLAC format
from my linux box. Of course, none of those things will EVER happen so I'll
keep plugging along with the crap I use now.

But it's really cool tech, I agree. The touch screen interface is licensed,
not internal Apple stuff, right? So at some point someone else might do something
similar?

TCB

"chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>
>Has anyone here seen an iPhone in use by a non geek? It's amazing. It's
>hands down the best user interface I have ever seen. The 'gesturing' thing
>rocks. I watched a valley girl navigate through 40 GB of voicemail, email,
>photo, web, blog, video and audio content to find the item she was after
>within 5 seconds.
>
>Chuck
Re: Apple redux [message #92653 is a reply to message #92498] Mon, 12 November 2007 20:54 Go to previous message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
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Not much different on ATT in Tulsa either.
AA

"Al Corey" <alcorey@cox.net> wrote in message news:47328b96$1@linux...
>
> Yeah, Fewest dropped calls!! Right!!! We were with verizon in So Cal for 8
> years and also spent a lot of time in NY city and maybe lost a dozen calls
> the whole time. Switched to AT&T 2 months ago and got 2 Iphones and I
> probably
> had a dozen dropped calls the 1ST DAY!!! Many more have followed.
> So Cal and NY city should have no problems with dropped calls.
> Where do they get their statistics???
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