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Re: Goit that yamaha stompbox happening [message #71462 is a reply to message #71461] |
Sat, 19 August 2006 14:50 |
Dubya Mark Wilson
Messages: 108 Registered: May 2006
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Don't know if the question is specifically to me (because I did just infer I
haven't heard it yet). If you're asking me why I don't "just get a ToneLab
SE for 5 times the cost and know that you got the real SHIT!"... the answer
is:
Because, John, I already HAVE "the SHIT" in a shockmount case measuring
3'-2"D x 5'-8"H x 26"W filled with $7000 @ 347lbs worth of fabulous
pieces.
Moreover, any great player can get the "real SHIT" sound out of almost
anything because "SHIT" isn't born on a circuit board. I'm sure any pro
players here will know exactly what I'm talking about. I can walk into GC,
pick up a $149 Mexi-Strat, plug into a 7 watt $50 amp pull a crowd in 3
minutes.
So for me, at 80 bucks delivered, (versus the $400 ToneLab) I don't really
need to hear the sounds in the STOMP II nearly as much as needing to know
that (Deej) someone with reputable ears has played it, heard it, likes it,
makes zero complaint about noise level or fidelity and has general positives
about it.
W.
"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:44e77888$1@linux...
>
> Why not just get a ToneLab SE for 5 times the cost and know that you got
> the
> real SHIT !
>
> "Dubya Mark Wilson" <mark.xspam@avidrecording.com> wrote:
>>In stock again - ordered today. Free shipping... sweet deal -- even if
> it
>>has only ONE great sound in it.
>>W.
>>
>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.org> wrote in message news:44e0efff$1@linux...
>>>
>>> It's a Yamaha MagicStomp.
>>>
>>> http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Yamaha-Magicstomp-II- Guitar-Effects-Processor?sku=151560
>>>
>>> Looks like they are out until the 18th.
>>>
>>> DC
>>
>>
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Re: Goit that yamaha stompbox happening [message #71464 is a reply to message #71462] |
Sat, 19 August 2006 15:06 |
John [1]
Messages: 2229 Registered: September 2005
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The question was not just to you so don't get all jiggy on me.
"Dubya Mark Wilson" <mark.xspam@avidrecording.com> wrote:
>Don't know if the question is specifically to me (because I did just infer
I
>haven't heard it yet). If you're asking me why I don't "just get a ToneLab
>SE for 5 times the cost and know that you got the real SHIT!"... the answer
>is:
>
>Because, John, I already HAVE "the SHIT" in a shockmount case measuring
>3'-2"D x 5'-8"H x 26"W filled with $7000 @ 347lbs worth of fabulous
>pieces.
>
>Moreover, any great player can get the "real SHIT" sound out of almost
>anything because "SHIT" isn't born on a circuit board. I'm sure any pro
>players here will know exactly what I'm talking about. I can walk into
GC,
>pick up a $149 Mexi-Strat, plug into a 7 watt $50 amp pull a crowd in 3
>minutes.
>
>So for me, at 80 bucks delivered, (versus the $400 ToneLab) I don't really
>need to hear the sounds in the STOMP II nearly as much as needing to know
>that (Deej) someone with reputable ears has played it, heard it, likes it,
>makes zero complaint about noise level or fidelity and has general positives
>about it.
>
>W.
>
>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:44e77888$1@linux...
>>
>> Why not just get a ToneLab SE for 5 times the cost and know that you got
>> the
>> real SHIT !
>>
>> "Dubya Mark Wilson" <mark.xspam@avidrecording.com> wrote:
>>>In stock again - ordered today. Free shipping... sweet deal -- even if
>> it
>>>has only ONE great sound in it.
>>>W.
>>>
>>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.org> wrote in message news:44e0efff$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> It's a Yamaha MagicStomp.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Yamaha-Magicstomp-II- Guitar-Effects-Processor?sku=151560
>>>>
>>>> Looks like they are out until the 18th.
>>>>
>>>> DC
>>>
>>>
>>
>
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Re: Goit that yamaha stompbox happening [message #71473 is a reply to message #71464] |
Sat, 19 August 2006 18:23 |
Dubya Mark Wilson
Messages: 108 Registered: May 2006
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Okee dokee and enjoy that ToneLab SE if you have one?
W.
"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:44e78b68$1@linux...
>
> The question was not just to you so don't get all jiggy on me.
>
> "Dubya Mark Wilson" <mark.xspam@avidrecording.com> wrote:
>>Don't know if the question is specifically to me (because I did just infer
> I
>>haven't heard it yet). If you're asking me why I don't "just get a
>>ToneLab
>
>>SE for 5 times the cost and know that you got the real SHIT!"... the
>>answer
>
>>is:
>>
>>Because, John, I already HAVE "the SHIT" in a shockmount case measuring
>
>>3'-2"D x 5'-8"H x 26"W filled with $7000 @ 347lbs worth of fabulous
>
>>pieces.
>>
>>Moreover, any great player can get the "real SHIT" sound out of almost
>>anything because "SHIT" isn't born on a circuit board. I'm sure any pro
>
>>players here will know exactly what I'm talking about. I can walk into
> GC,
>>pick up a $149 Mexi-Strat, plug into a 7 watt $50 amp pull a crowd in 3
>
>>minutes.
>>
>>So for me, at 80 bucks delivered, (versus the $400 ToneLab) I don't really
>
>>need to hear the sounds in the STOMP II nearly as much as needing to know
>
>>that (Deej) someone with reputable ears has played it, heard it, likes it,
>
>>makes zero complaint about noise level or fidelity and has general
>>positives
>
>>about it.
>>
>>W.
>>
>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:44e77888$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Why not just get a ToneLab SE for 5 times the cost and know that you got
>
>>> the
>>> real SHIT !
>>>
>>> "Dubya Mark Wilson" <mark.xspam@avidrecording.com> wrote:
>>>>In stock again - ordered today. Free shipping... sweet deal -- even if
>>> it
>>>>has only ONE great sound in it.
>>>>W.
>>>>
>>>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.org> wrote in message news:44e0efff$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> It's a Yamaha MagicStomp.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Yamaha-Magicstomp-II- Guitar-Effects-Processor?sku=151560
>>>>>
>>>>> Looks like they are out until the 18th.
>>>>>
>>>>> DC
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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Re: Goit that yamaha stompbox happening [message #71483 is a reply to message #71473] |
Sun, 20 August 2006 04:19 |
John [1]
Messages: 2229 Registered: September 2005
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Senior Member |
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I wish I had a ToneLab, but I just have a Line 6 Ax212. It's nice but buggy.
Big volume jumps on startup when you change presets, using unisyn editor
can make it scream into feedback if you're not careful.
Overall it has lots of really good sounds but I'm not a good enough guitar
player to make it worth going to a ToneLab. Also, the ToneLab is not stereo
and I'm guessing the next version might be. I think I have this phobia about
stompboxes cuz they seem to all get chained together and then become one
big mess of wall warts and noise. Let us know how you like the box, that
is a great price.
"Dubya Mark Wilson" <mark.xspam@avidrecording.com> wrote:
>Okee dokee and enjoy that ToneLab SE if you have one?
>W.
>
>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:44e78b68$1@linux...
>>
>> The question was not just to you so don't get all jiggy on me.
>>
>> "Dubya Mark Wilson" <mark.xspam@avidrecording.com> wrote:
>>>Don't know if the question is specifically to me (because I did just infer
>> I
>>>haven't heard it yet). If you're asking me why I don't "just get a
>>>ToneLab
>>
>>>SE for 5 times the cost and know that you got the real SHIT!"... the
>>>answer
>>
>>>is:
>>>
>>>Because, John, I already HAVE "the SHIT" in a shockmount case measuring
>>
>>>3'-2"D x 5'-8"H x 26"W filled with $7000 @ 347lbs worth of fabulous
>>
>>>pieces.
>>>
>>>Moreover, any great player can get the "real SHIT" sound out of almost
>>>anything because "SHIT" isn't born on a circuit board. I'm sure any pro
>>
>>>players here will know exactly what I'm talking about. I can walk into
>> GC,
>>>pick up a $149 Mexi-Strat, plug into a 7 watt $50 amp pull a crowd in
3
>>
>>>minutes.
>>>
>>>So for me, at 80 bucks delivered, (versus the $400 ToneLab) I don't really
>>
>>>need to hear the sounds in the STOMP II nearly as much as needing to know
>>
>>>that (Deej) someone with reputable ears has played it, heard it, likes
it,
>>
>>>makes zero complaint about noise level or fidelity and has general
>>>positives
>>
>>>about it.
>>>
>>>W.
>>>
>>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:44e77888$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Why not just get a ToneLab SE for 5 times the cost and know that you
got
>>
>>>> the
>>>> real SHIT !
>>>>
>>>> "Dubya Mark Wilson" <mark.xspam@avidrecording.com> wrote:
>>>>>In stock again - ordered today. Free shipping... sweet deal -- even
if
>>>> it
>>>>>has only ONE great sound in it.
>>>>>W.
>>>>>
>>>>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.org> wrote in message news:44e0efff$1@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's a Yamaha MagicStomp.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Yamaha-Magicstomp-II- Guitar-Effects-Processor?sku=151560
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Looks like they are out until the 18th.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> DC
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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Re: Goit that yamaha stompbox happening [message #71489 is a reply to message #71483] |
Sun, 20 August 2006 09:16 |
LAMont[3]
Messages: 5 Registered: August 2006
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To me the Tonelab is great for clean, jazz tones, BUT, just average for the
crunch and burn tones. Maybe they (VOX) was not going for the Mesa Boogie
dual rectifire tones or even the super marshall hot tones.
All in all, good for some things, not good for others.
"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>
>I wish I had a ToneLab, but I just have a Line 6 Ax212. It's nice but buggy.
> Big volume jumps on startup when you change presets, using unisyn editor
>can make it scream into feedback if you're not careful.
>
>Overall it has lots of really good sounds but I'm not a good enough guitar
>player to make it worth going to a ToneLab. Also, the ToneLab is not stereo
>and I'm guessing the next version might be. I think I have this phobia
about
>stompboxes cuz they seem to all get chained together and then become one
>big mess of wall warts and noise. Let us know how you like the box, that
>is a great price.
>
>"Dubya Mark Wilson" <mark.xspam@avidrecording.com> wrote:
>>Okee dokee and enjoy that ToneLab SE if you have one?
>>W.
>>
>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:44e78b68$1@linux...
>>>
>>> The question was not just to you so don't get all jiggy on me.
>>>
>>> "Dubya Mark Wilson" <mark.xspam@avidrecording.com> wrote:
>>>>Don't know if the question is specifically to me (because I did just
infer
>>> I
>>>>haven't heard it yet). If you're asking me why I don't "just get a
>>>>ToneLab
>>>
>>>>SE for 5 times the cost and know that you got the real SHIT!"... the
>>>>answer
>>>
>>>>is:
>>>>
>>>>Because, John, I already HAVE "the SHIT" in a shockmount case measuring
>>>
>>>>3'-2"D x 5'-8"H x 26"W filled with $7000 @ 347lbs worth of fabulous
>>>
>>>>pieces.
>>>>
>>>>Moreover, any great player can get the "real SHIT" sound out of almost
>>>>anything because "SHIT" isn't born on a circuit board. I'm sure any
pro
>>>
>>>>players here will know exactly what I'm talking about. I can walk into
>>> GC,
>>>>pick up a $149 Mexi-Strat, plug into a 7 watt $50 amp pull a crowd in
>3
>>>
>>>>minutes.
>>>>
>>>>So for me, at 80 bucks delivered, (versus the $400 ToneLab) I don't really
>>>
>>>>need to hear the sounds in the STOMP II nearly as much as needing to
know
>>>
>>>>that (Deej) someone with reputable ears has played it, heard it, likes
>it,
>>>
>>>>makes zero complaint about noise level or fidelity and has general
>>>>positives
>>>
>>>>about it.
>>>>
>>>>W.
>>>>
>>>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:44e77888$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> Why not just get a ToneLab SE for 5 times the cost and know that you
>got
>>>
>>>>> the
>>>>> real SHIT !
>>>>>
>>>>> "Dubya Mark Wilson" <mark.xspam@avidrecording.com> wrote:
>>>>>>In stock again - ordered today. Free shipping... sweet deal -- even
>if
>>>>> it
>>>>>>has only ONE great sound in it.
>>>>>>W.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.org> wrote in message news:44e0efff$1@linux...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's a Yamaha MagicStomp.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Yamaha-Magicstomp-II- Guitar-Effects-Processor?sku=151560
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Looks like they are out until the 18th.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> DC
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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Re: Goit that yamaha stompbox happening [message #71494 is a reply to message #71489] |
Sun, 20 August 2006 10:53 |
John [1]
Messages: 2229 Registered: September 2005
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Bummer. I guess that tube sound is truly elusive in digital modeling.
"LAMont" <jjdpro@ameritch.net> wrote:
>
>To me the Tonelab is great for clean, jazz tones, BUT, just average for
the
>crunch and burn tones. Maybe they (VOX) was not going for the Mesa Boogie
>dual rectifire tones or even the super marshall hot tones.
>All in all, good for some things, not good for others.
>
>"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>
>>I wish I had a ToneLab, but I just have a Line 6 Ax212. It's nice but
buggy.
>> Big volume jumps on startup when you change presets, using unisyn editor
>>can make it scream into feedback if you're not careful.
>>
>>Overall it has lots of really good sounds but I'm not a good enough guitar
>>player to make it worth going to a ToneLab. Also, the ToneLab is not stereo
>>and I'm guessing the next version might be. I think I have this phobia
>about
>>stompboxes cuz they seem to all get chained together and then become one
>>big mess of wall warts and noise. Let us know how you like the box, that
>>is a great price.
>>
>>"Dubya Mark Wilson" <mark.xspam@avidrecording.com> wrote:
>>>Okee dokee and enjoy that ToneLab SE if you have one?
>>>W.
>>>
>>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:44e78b68$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> The question was not just to you so don't get all jiggy on me.
>>>>
>>>> "Dubya Mark Wilson" <mark.xspam@avidrecording.com> wrote:
>>>>>Don't know if the question is specifically to me (because I did just
>infer
>>>> I
>>>>>haven't heard it yet). If you're asking me why I don't "just get a
>>>>>ToneLab
>>>>
>>>>>SE for 5 times the cost and know that you got the real SHIT!"... the
>
>>>>>answer
>>>>
>>>>>is:
>>>>>
>>>>>Because, John, I already HAVE "the SHIT" in a shockmount case measuring
>>>>
>>>>>3'-2"D x 5'-8"H x 26"W filled with $7000 @ 347lbs worth of fabulous
>>>>
>>>>>pieces.
>>>>>
>>>>>Moreover, any great player can get the "real SHIT" sound out of almost
>>>>>anything because "SHIT" isn't born on a circuit board. I'm sure any
>pro
>>>>
>>>>>players here will know exactly what I'm talking about. I can walk into
>>>> GC,
>>>>>pick up a $149 Mexi-Strat, plug into a 7 watt $50 amp pull a crowd in
>>3
>>>>
>>>>>minutes.
>>>>>
>>>>>So for me, at 80 bucks delivered, (versus the $400 ToneLab) I don't
really
>>>>
>>>>>need to hear the sounds in the STOMP II nearly as much as needing to
>know
>>>>
>>>>>that (Deej) someone with reputable ears has played it, heard it, likes
>>it,
>>>>
>>>>>makes zero complaint about noise level or fidelity and has general
>>>>>positives
>>>>
>>>>>about it.
>>>>>
>>>>>W.
>>>>>
>>>>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:44e77888$1@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why not just get a ToneLab SE for 5 times the cost and know that you
>>got
>>>>
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> real SHIT !
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Dubya Mark Wilson" <mark.xspam@avidrecording.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>In stock again - ordered today. Free shipping... sweet deal -- even
>>if
>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>has only ONE great sound in it.
>>>>>>>W.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.org> wrote in message news:44e0efff$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's a Yamaha MagicStomp.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Yamaha-Magicstomp-II- Guitar-Effects-Processor?sku=151560
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Looks like they are out until the 18th.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> DC
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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